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* IAmNotSpock: Don't call Courtney Love a Riot Grrl. While Hole was commonly characterized as a Riot Grrl band, Love didn't agree and distanced herself from the movement at almost every opportunity. Love has long been a critic of the Riot Grrl movement, stating that the Riot Grrl bands leaned on identity politics to compensate for the subpar quality of their music.

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* IAmNotSpock: Don't call Courtney Love a Riot Grrl. While Hole was commonly characterized as a Riot Grrl band, Love didn't agree and distanced herself from the movement at almost every opportunity. Love has long been a critic of the Riot Grrl movement, stating that the Riot Grrl bands leaned on identity politics to compensate for the subpar quality of their music. In Hole's song "Rock Star", she mocks them as being unoriginal and conformist.

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** She doesn't hold her solo album ''America's Sweetheart'' in high regard, viewing it as a mediocre record tainted by ExecutiveMeddling which she didn't put much effort into as she was loaded on drugs and in the midst of a major personal breakdown while it was being recorded. She also really hates the cover art.
** More generally, the entire decade of the 2000s is now an old shame to her, as she went through a massive personal breakdown where she spiraled severely into drug addiction, resulting in many bizarre public appearances, multiple arrests, multiple stints in rehab and even being locked away in mental hospitals as she tried to get her addictions and personal issues under control. Today she refers to the 2000s as "The Letterman Years", referring to an infamous incident in 2004 where she jumped on Creator/DavidLetterman's desk and flashed her breasts on national TV.
** Similarly, while she doesn't hate ''Nobody's Daughter'', she does regret reviving Hole without getting its original 1990s lineup back together and generally feels that ''Nobody's Daughter'' doesn't really work as a Hole album. In hindsight, she wishes she would have released it as a solo album instead.
** She has said that she has no memory of 1995-96 because of all the drugs she was loaded on at the time.



* OldShame: Not surprisingly, she has quite a few:
** She doesn't hold her solo album ''America's Sweetheart'' in high regard, viewing it as a mediocre record tainted by ExecutiveMeddling which she didn't put much effort into as she was loaded on drugs and in the midst of a major personal breakdown while it was being recorded. She also really hates the cover art.
** More generally, the entire decade of the 2000s is now an old shame to her, as she went through a massive personal breakdown where she spiraled severely into drug addiction, resulting in many bizarre public appearances, multiple arrests, multiple stints in rehab and even being locked away in mental hospitals as she tried to get her addictions and personal issues under control. Today she refers to the 2000s as "The Letterman Years", referring to an infamous incident in 2004 where she jumped on Creator/DavidLetterman's desk and flashed her breasts on national TV.
** Similarly, while she doesn't hate ''Nobody's Daughter'', she does regret reviving Hole without getting its original 1990s lineup back together and generally feels that ''Nobody's Daughter'' doesn't really work as a Hole album. In hindsight, she wishes she would have released it as a solo album instead.
** She has said that she has no memory of 1995-96 because of all the drugs she was loaded on at the time.
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* BabyNameTrendKiller: Courtney's personal problems and her factor in Cobain's death resulted in the baby name "Courtney" [[https://www.behindthename.com/name/courtney/top plummeting in popularity]] in the second half of the 1990s.
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* IAmNotSpock: Don't call Courtney Love a Riot Grrl. While Hole was commonly characterized as a Riot Grrl band, Love didn't agree and distanced herself from the movement at almost every opportunity. Love has long been a critic of the Riot Grrl movement, stating that the Riot Grrl bands leaned on identity politics to compensate for the subpar quality of their music.
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* GuestStarPartyMember: Creator/EdwardNorton filled in as guitarist during Hole's December 1998 Shrine Auditorium concert in Los Angeles, as Eric Erlandson had to bow out due to illness.



* WrittenForMyKids: She allegedly walked into the recording studio and said that she wanted to write a song that she could sing to her daughter. What came out of the recording session was the delightfully candy-coated "Heaven Tonight".

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** Courtney Love would have been one of the guest stars in the ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' episode "Homerpalooza" if Music/SonicYouth hadn't refused to do the episode if she was involved.

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** Courtney Love would have been one of the guest stars in the ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' episode "Homerpalooza" "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E24Homerpalooza Homerpalooza]]" if Music/SonicYouth hadn't refused to do the episode if she was involved.


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* WrittenForMyKids: She allegedly walked into the recording studio and said that she wanted to write a song that she could sing to her daughter. What came out of the recording session was the delightfully candy-coated "Heaven Tonight".
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* CreativeDifferences: [[Music/FooFighters Dave Grohl]]. The two have had strong feelings about each other and have been in multiple legal battles ever since Cobain's death and Nirvana's dissolution. They reconciled in the 2010s, where they famously embraced on stage at Nirvana's induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and have generally remained at peace since.

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* CreativeDifferences: [[Music/FooFighters Dave Grohl]]. The two have had strong feelings about each other and have been in multiple legal battles ever since Cobain's death and Nirvana's dissolution. They reconciled in the 2010s, where they famously embraced on stage at Nirvana's induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame UsefulNotes/RockAndRollHallOfFame and have generally remained at peace since.



** Quentin Tarantino approached Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love to play "Lance" and "Jody" in ''Film/PulpFiction'', but they declined. Lance was the drug dealer, not the stickup guy at the diner. Jody was the girl with all the piercings, not the stickup gal at the diner. (Tarantino is thanked in the liner notes to ''In Utero''. Nirvana is also thanked on the back of the ''Pulp Fiction'' soundtrack.)

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** Quentin Tarantino Creator/QuentinTarantino approached Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love to play "Lance" and "Jody" in ''Film/PulpFiction'', but they declined. Lance was the drug dealer, not the stickup guy at the diner. Jody was the girl with all the piercings, not the stickup gal at the diner. (Tarantino is thanked in the liner notes to ''In Utero''. Nirvana is also thanked on the back of the ''Pulp Fiction'' soundtrack.)
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** She doesn't hold her solo album ''America's Sweetheart'' in high regard, viewing it as a mediocre record tainted by ExectiveMeddling which she didn't put much effort into as she was loaded on drugs and in the midst of a major personal breakdown while it was being recorded. She also really hates the cover art.

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** She doesn't hold her solo album ''America's Sweetheart'' in high regard, viewing it as a mediocre record tainted by ExectiveMeddling ExecutiveMeddling which she didn't put much effort into as she was loaded on drugs and in the midst of a major personal breakdown while it was being recorded. She also really hates the cover art.

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* ArtistDisillusionment: Her speech about how artists are unfairly treated by the record industry is surprisingly insightful, informative and well-written.
* CreativeDifferences: [[Music/FooFighters Dave Grohl]]. The two have had strong feelings about each other and have been in multiple legal battles ever since Cobain's death and Nirvana's dissolution. It's possible that they have reconciled to some extent. At Nirvana's induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2014, the two embraced on stage to thunderous applause.
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** Courtney Love has been a staple of the Celebrity Death Pool for many, many years. She spent the entirely of the nineties off her head.
** In her "good" public appearances she comes across as an elegant raconteur. Her "bad" public appearances lead many to believe that she has bipolar disorder, a condition that Kurt Cobain also had. Ironically, Courtney's mother was a psychotherapist. (The rocker opened up two separate accounts for "Good Sister" and "Bad Sister", named for one of her songs, to [[http://jezebel.com/5882326/a-tale-of-two-courtneys duke it out over Twitter.]] It got to the point where Frances Bean personally asked Twitter to delete her mother's account.)

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* ArtistDisillusionment: Her She is very candid on her view of the entertainment business and her peers, holding little back, which has made her plenty of enemies along the way. Notably, she delivered a very insightful, informative and well-written speech about how artists are unfairly treated by the record industry is surprisingly insightful, informative and well-written.
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* CreativeDifferences: [[Music/FooFighters Dave Grohl]]. The two have had strong feelings about each other and have been in multiple legal battles ever since Cobain's death and Nirvana's dissolution. It's possible that they have They reconciled to some extent. At in the 2010s, where they famously embraced on stage at Nirvana's induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2014, the two embraced on stage to thunderous applause.
* CreatorBreakdown:
** Courtney Love has been a staple of the Celebrity Death Pool for many, many years. She spent the entirely of the nineties off her head.
** In her "good" public appearances she comes across as an elegant raconteur. Her "bad" public appearances lead many to believe that she has bipolar disorder, a condition that Kurt Cobain also had. Ironically, Courtney's mother was a psychotherapist. (The rocker opened up two separate accounts for "Good Sister"
and "Bad Sister", named for one of her songs, to [[http://jezebel.com/5882326/a-tale-of-two-courtneys duke it out over Twitter.]] It got have generally remained at peace since.
* CreatorBreakdown: Has had multiple spectacular ones
to the point where Frances Bean personally asked Twitter to delete that she's more famous for them than for her mother's account.)work as an artist. Courtney herself regularly refers to the massive personal breakdown she suffered in the mid 2000s as "The Letterman Years".



* OldShame: Not surprisingly, she has quite a few:
** She doesn't hold her solo album ''America's Sweetheart'' in high regard, viewing it as a mediocre record tainted by ExectiveMeddling which she didn't put much effort into as she was loaded on drugs and in the midst of a major personal breakdown while it was being recorded. She also really hates the cover art.
** More generally, the entire decade of the 2000s is now an old shame to her, as she went through a massive personal breakdown where she spiraled severely into drug addiction, resulting in many bizarre public appearances, multiple arrests, multiple stints in rehab and even being locked away in mental hospitals as she tried to get her addictions and personal issues under control. Today she refers to the 2000s as "The Letterman Years", referring to an infamous incident in 2004 where she jumped on Creator/DavidLetterman's desk and flashed her breasts on national TV.
** Similarly, while she doesn't hate ''Nobody's Daughter'', she does regret reviving Hole without getting its original 1990s lineup back together and generally feels that ''Nobody's Daughter'' doesn't really work as a Hole album. In hindsight, she wishes she would have released it as a solo album instead.
** She has said that she has no memory of 1995-96 because of all the drugs she was loaded on at the time.



** The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the ''Nobody's Daughter'' lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has a family and a business to run in New York, and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].

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** The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the ''Nobody's Daughter'' lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has reasons, a family major one likely being how both Schemel and a business to run in New York, Auf der Maur have left the entertainment industry and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].
returned to living private lives.
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* GuestStarPartyMember: Creator/EdwardNorton filled in as guitarist during Hole's December 1998 Shrine Auditorium concert in Los Angeles, as Eric Erlandson had to bow out due to illness.
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* YokoOhNo: She was verbally abusive to Kurt when he was in his depressive stages. After his death, she was the sole heir to her husband's musical IP and kept it to herself. Kurt's estate is worth a half billion dollars. The band was furious at her undermining and prevention of a lot of great music from being released.

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* YokoOhNo: She was verbally abusive to Kurt when he was in his depressive stages. After his death, she was the sole heir to her husband's musical IP and kept it to herself. Kurt's estate is worth a half billion dollars. The band was furious at her undermining and prevention of a lot of great music from being released.
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** In her "good" public appearances she comes across as an elegant raconteur. Her "bad" public appearances lead many to believe that she has bipolar disorder, a condition that Kurt Cobain also had. Ironically, Courtney's mother was a psychotherapist. (The rocker opened up two separate accounts for "Good Sister" and "Bad Sister", named for one of her songs, to [[http://jezebel.com/5882326/a-tale-of-two-courtneys duke it out over Twitter.]] It got to the point where Francis Bean personally asked Twitter to delete her mother's account.)

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** In her "good" public appearances she comes across as an elegant raconteur. Her "bad" public appearances lead many to believe that she has bipolar disorder, a condition that Kurt Cobain also had. Ironically, Courtney's mother was a psychotherapist. (The rocker opened up two separate accounts for "Good Sister" and "Bad Sister", named for one of her songs, to [[http://jezebel.com/5882326/a-tale-of-two-courtneys duke it out over Twitter.]] It got to the point where Francis Frances Bean personally asked Twitter to delete her mother's account.)

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* ArtistDisillusionment: Her speech about how artists are unfairly treated by the record industry is surprisingly insightful, informative and well-written.
* CreativeDifferences: [[Music/FooFighters Dave Grohl]]. The two have had strong feelings about each other and have been in multiple legal battles ever since Cobain's death and Nirvana's dissolution. It's possible that they have reconciled to some extent. At Nirvana's induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2014, the two embraced on stage to thunderous applause.
* CreatorBreakdown:
** Courtney Love has been a staple of the Celebrity Death Pool for many, many years. She spent the entirely of the nineties off her head.
** In her "good" public appearances she comes across as an elegant raconteur. Her "bad" public appearances lead many to believe that she has bipolar disorder, a condition that Kurt Cobain also had. Ironically, Courtney's mother was a psychotherapist. (The rocker opened up two separate accounts for "Good Sister" and "Bad Sister", named for one of her songs, to [[http://jezebel.com/5882326/a-tale-of-two-courtneys duke it out over Twitter.]] It got to the point where Francis Bean personally asked Twitter to delete her mother's account.)



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the ''Nobody's Daughter'' lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has a family and a business to run in New York, and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: FollowTheLeader:
** She feels this way about Creator/TaylorMomsen.
** For Love herself, Music/StevieNicks, who she strongly admires.
** She reinvented UnkemptBeauty for the 90s, with tattered little dresses, [[UncannyValleyMakeup smeared makeup]] and unbrushed hair. The look in question, Kinderwhore, was the attempt to look like a prostitute crossed with a child playing dress-up. She was accused of stealing it from Kat Bjelland of Music/BabesInToyland.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Courtney Love would have been one of the guest stars in the ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' episode "Homerpalooza" if Music/SonicYouth hadn't refused to do the episode if she was involved.
** Quentin Tarantino approached Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love to play "Lance" and "Jody" in ''Film/PulpFiction'', but they declined. Lance was the drug dealer, not the stickup guy at the diner. Jody was the girl with all the piercings, not the stickup gal at the diner. (Tarantino is thanked in the liner notes to ''In Utero''. Nirvana is also thanked on the back of the ''Pulp Fiction'' soundtrack.)
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The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the ''Nobody's Daughter'' lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has a family and a business to run in New York, and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].LA[[/note]].
* YokoOhNo: She was verbally abusive to Kurt when he was in his depressive stages. After his death, she was the sole heir to her husband's musical IP and kept it to herself. Kurt's estate is worth a half billion dollars. The band was furious at her undermining and prevention of a lot of great music from being released.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the Nobody's Daughter lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has a family and a business to run in New York, and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the Nobody's Daughter ''Nobody's Daughter'' lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has a family and a business to run in New York, and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].
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* CreatorBacklash: She called her solo album 'a mistake', and admitted she was too loaded on drugs to really care about recording it. She did like a few songs on it however and her favorite track from it, "Mono" is still performed live by her regularly.
** She also regrets "reuniting" Hole, and wishes she'd been brave enough to actually put Nobody's Daughter out under her own name.

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* CreatorBacklash: She called her solo album 'a mistake', "a mistake", and admitted she was too loaded on drugs to really care about recording it. She did like a few songs on it however and her favorite track from it, "Mono" (the only single), is still performed live by her regularly.
** She also regrets "reuniting" Hole, and wishes she'd been brave enough to actually put Nobody's Daughter ''Nobody's Daughter'' out under her own name.

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** She also regrets "reuniting" Hole, and wishes she'd been brave enough to actually put Nobody's Daughter out under her own name.




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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The 1995 Hole lineup played a show together in 2012 on a whim, while the Nobody's Daughter lineup was still touring as Hole. Courtney has been dropping hints that she wants to do something more with this for years, but still nothing concrete has happened for various reasons[[note]]Melissa has a family and a business to run in New York, and the rest of the band lives in Seattle or LA[[/note]].
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* CreatorBacklash: She called her solo album 'a mistake', and admitted she was too loaded on drugs to really care about recording it. She did like a few songs on it however and her favorite track from it, "Mono" is still performed live by her regularly.
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* {{Promoted Fan|boy}}girl: Love managed to convince [[Music/SonicYouth Kim Gordon]] to produce the first Hole album by sending her a letter about how much they admired her work and in particular "the SST album"[[hottip:*:It's not clear whether she's talking about ''EVOL'' or ''Sister'']], along with copies she owned of early SY singles.

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* {{Promoted Fan|boy}}girl: Love managed to convince [[Music/SonicYouth Kim Gordon]] to produce the first Hole album by sending her a letter about how much they admired her work and in particular "the SST album"[[hottip:*:It's album"[[note]]It's not clear whether she's talking about ''EVOL'' or ''Sister'']], ''Sister''[[/note]], along with copies she owned of early SY singles.singles.

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* CreatorCouples: A very dysfunctional example with [[Music/{{Nirvana}} Kurt]].

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* {{Promoted Fan|boy}}girl: Love managed to convince [[Music/SonicYouth Kim Gordon]] to produce the first Hole album by sending her a letter about how much they admired her work and in particular "the SST album"[[hottip:*:It's not clear whether she's talking about ''EVOL'' or ''Sister'']], along with copies she owned of early SY singles.

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