History Trivia / ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog

4th Dec '17 9:27:33 AM superboy313
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' cannot make an appearance. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, forbids the use of any character from the aforementioned pieces of media.

to:

** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' cannot make an appearance. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, forbids As such, they forbid the use of any character from the aforementioned pieces of media.
4th Dec '17 9:26:13 AM superboy313
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' are forbidden from appearing in the comic. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, prevents any character from the aforementioned pieces of media from being used.

to:

** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' are forbidden from appearing in the comic.cannot make an appearance. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, prevents forbids the use of any character from the aforementioned pieces of media from being used.media.
3rd Dec '17 1:28:54 PM superboy313
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' are forbidden from appearing in the comic. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, prevents any character from the aforementioned pieces of media being used.

to:

** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' are forbidden from appearing in the comic. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, prevents any character from the aforementioned pieces of media from being used.
3rd Dec '17 1:28:04 PM superboy313
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' can never appear in the comics under orders from Sega.

to:

** Characters from ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' can never appear are forbidden from appearing in the comics under orders comic. According to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-BaVS8oyc&t=1982s head writer Ian Flynn]], this is due to Sega not being keen on giving attention to any past incarnations of the franchise. And thus, prevents any character from Sega.the aforementioned pieces of media being used.
1st Dec '17 7:16:19 PM Calout
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Black Doom and Mephiles are off-limits for similarly unexplained reasons. The former caused Ian Flynn to create [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Black Death]].

to:

** Black Doom and Mephiles are off-limits for similarly unexplained reasons.reasons (though it could be because they are both [[KilledOffForReal dead in canon]]). The former caused Ian Flynn to create [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Black Death]].
23rd Nov '17 12:33:03 AM Crossover-Enthusiast
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** [[NoHuggingNoKissing None of the game characters can have a steady relationship, and Amy cannot like anyone but Sonic. Sonic and Amy cannot date at all as they would lose their dynamic.]][[note]]Yes, This sank Sonic/Sally, not Ian Flynn.[[/note]]

to:

** [[NoHuggingNoKissing None of the game characters can have a steady relationship, and Amy cannot like anyone but Sonic. Sonic and Amy cannot date at all as they would lose their dynamic.]][[note]]Yes, This this sank Sonic/Sally, not Ian Flynn.[[/note]]
22nd Nov '17 8:22:53 PM superboy313
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** And there's Sega's [[ScrewedByTheLawyers legally obligated mandate]] that keeps characters and elements from all of the non-western non-game Sonic continuities (I.e. ''Anime/SonicX'', ''Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie'') [[ExiledFromContinuity from ever being used in the comic]], owing to tangled copyright issues between Sega of Japan and Sega of America, as well as the companies that co-produced those other series, including the animation studios Creator/TMSEntertainment and Creator/StudioPierrot respectively, ''Sonic X''[='=]s then-current American distributor prior to the Archie comics' cancellation Creator/SabanBrands, and ''Sonic the Movie''[='=]s defunct licensor Creator/ADVFilms[[note]]''Sonic X''[='=]s American distribution rights have since hopped over to Creator/DiscotekMedia, while the WordOfSaintPaul for ''Sonic the Movie''[='=]s American licensing is that [[http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37016&view=findpost&p=903047 the rights have reverted to Sega following ADV's downfall]], who are content with just locking it up in American anime licensing limbo.[[/note]].
** Likewise, elements created specifically for the Archie Sonic comics (and by proxy, its precursor ''[=SatAM=]'') are not allowed to be used in other Sonic continuities due to the aforementioned legal embargoes. The closest exception was cameos of ''[=SatAM=]'' and ''Adventures of Sonic'' characters in ''VideoGame/SonicSpinball'', which was a western produced Sonic spinoff to begin with.
*** Notably, this affects [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW the IDW version]] of the Sonic comic, since it's a continuity reboot.

to:

** And there's Sega's [[ScrewedByTheLawyers legally obligated mandate]] that keeps characters and elements Characters from all of ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'', [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie the non-western non-game Sonic continuities (I.e. ''Anime/SonicX'', ''Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie'') [[ExiledFromContinuity from ever being used OVA]], and ''Anime/SonicX'' can never appear in the comic]], owing to tangled copyright issues between Sega of Japan and Sega of America, as well as the companies that co-produced those other series, including the animation studios Creator/TMSEntertainment and Creator/StudioPierrot respectively, ''Sonic X''[='=]s then-current American distributor prior to the Archie comics' cancellation Creator/SabanBrands, and ''Sonic the Movie''[='=]s defunct licensor Creator/ADVFilms[[note]]''Sonic X''[='=]s American distribution rights have since hopped over to Creator/DiscotekMedia, while the WordOfSaintPaul for ''Sonic the Movie''[='=]s American licensing is that [[http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37016&view=findpost&p=903047 the rights have reverted to Sega following ADV's downfall]], who are content with just locking it up in American anime licensing limbo.[[/note]].
** Likewise, elements created specifically for the Archie Sonic
comics (and by proxy, its precursor ''[=SatAM=]'') are not allowed to be used in other Sonic continuities due to the aforementioned legal embargoes. The closest exception was cameos of ''[=SatAM=]'' and ''Adventures of Sonic'' characters in ''VideoGame/SonicSpinball'', which was a western produced Sonic spinoff to begin with.
*** Notably, this affects [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW the IDW version]] of the Sonic comic, since it's a continuity reboot.
under orders from Sega.



** Due to messy legal issues involving Sega of Japan and Sega of America's separate copyrights on the numerous Sonic properties, as well as copyright hang ups between other studios that co-produced certain Sonic series (I.e. animation studios Studio Pierrot and TMS Entertainment, and American distributors such as the now-defunct A.D. Vision and the barely-even-active Creator/FourKidsEntertainment and the then-active-before-Archie-cancellation Saban Brands), Sega gave an editorial mandate that unique material or characters from any Sonic continuities outside of the video games, the ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' and [[WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM SatAM Sonic cartoons]] (which the Archie comics were directly based on and always borrowed elements from) and ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'' are not allowed to be used in the comic. This ended up biting Archie in the rear hard when they had unauthorized cameos of characters from ''Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie'' in issue 101, which earned them a hell of a dressing down by Sega. ''Anime/SonicX'', which is another continuity that the comics are not allowed to borrow from, once had a [[ComicBook/SonicX 40 issue comic tie-in]] produced by Archie, and a one issue cross-over with the main comic universe, to the point that Sega has forbidden reprints of the ''Sonic X'' comic at all.
** Likewise, elements created specifically for the Archie Sonic comics are not allowed to be used in other Sonic continuities due to the aforementioned legal embargoes.



** The aforementioned embargo on using characters or elements from series like ''Anime/SonicX'' due to copyright issues.
24th Oct '17 11:26:40 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** [[InvincibleHero Sonic]] [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin always has to win.]] Even if Eggman [[TeamRocketWins does get the upper hand for a short period]], Sonic has to immediately overcome him in a subsequent comic. [[note]]The ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed art had to have Sonic arrive ''after'' the world began to break up, and ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' had no chance...[[/note]]

to:

** [[InvincibleHero Sonic]] [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin always has to win.]] Even if Eggman [[TeamRocketWins does get the upper hand for a short period]], Sonic has to immediately overcome him in a subsequent comic. [[note]]The ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed art ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' arc had to have Sonic arrive ''after'' the world began to break up, and ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' had no chance...[[/note]]
24th Oct '17 11:26:14 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* CreatorBacklash:
** The shipping wars got so bad that Ian has essentially sunk Sonic/Sally as a pairing with the soft reboot. Also doubles as WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings.
** Per word of Aaron Webber, Archie in general seems to pretend that their Sonic comics never existed once they lost the license, due in part to them and Sega apparently departing on sour terms and Archie wanting to move on from the series anyway.

to:

* CreatorBacklash:
** The shipping wars got so bad that Ian has essentially sunk Sonic/Sally as a pairing with the soft reboot. Also doubles as WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings.
**
CreatorBacklash: Per word of Aaron Webber, Archie in general seems to pretend that their Sonic comics never existed once they lost the license, due in part to them and Sega apparently departing on sour terms and Archie wanting to move on from the series anyway.



** The name "Mobius" cannot be spoken or mentioned as the name of the planet, and it is not allowed to be called "Earth" either--Sega says it is now just "Sonic's World".[[note]]This is in deference to the fact they outright call themselves Mobians all the time![[/note]]

to:

** The name "Mobius" cannot be spoken or mentioned as the name of the planet, and it is not allowed to be called "Earth" either--Sega says it is now just "Sonic's World".[[note]]This is in deference to the fact they outright [[note]]They still call themselves Mobians all the time![[/note]]"Mobians" though.[[/note]]



** [[InvincibleHero Sonic]] [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin always has to win.]] Even if Eggman [[TeamRocketWins does get the upper hand for a short period]], Sonic has to immediately overcome him in a subsequent comic. [[note]]SonicUnleashed had to have Sonic arrive AFTER the world began to break up, and ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' had no chance...[[/note]]

to:

** [[InvincibleHero Sonic]] [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin always has to win.]] Even if Eggman [[TeamRocketWins does get the upper hand for a short period]], Sonic has to immediately overcome him in a subsequent comic. [[note]]SonicUnleashed [[note]]The ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed art had to have Sonic arrive AFTER ''after'' the world began to break up, and ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' had no chance...[[/note]]
22nd Oct '17 7:48:18 PM lalalei2001
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** With the title officially cancelled, there are a number of stories that will remain untold due to being advertised prior to the lengthy hiatus, including a retelling of ''VideoGame/SegaSonicTheHedgehog'' and a proper adaptation of ''VIdeoGame/SonicLostWorld'' not tied up with crossovers. However, [[http://bumbleking.com/lost-hedgehog-tales-update Ian Fynn has indicated]] that some pre-boot and reboot concepts [[Main/RefittedForSequel might end up getting used]] in [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW the IDW Sonic comic]], depending on various circumstances.

to:

** With the title officially cancelled, there are a number of stories that will remain untold due to being advertised prior to the lengthy hiatus, including a retelling of ''VideoGame/SegaSonicTheHedgehog'' and a proper adaptation of ''VIdeoGame/SonicLostWorld'' not tied up with crossovers. However, [[http://bumbleking.com/lost-hedgehog-tales-update Ian Fynn has indicated]] that some pre-boot and reboot concepts [[Main/RefittedForSequel [[RefittedForSequel might end up getting used]] in [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW the IDW Sonic comic]], depending on various circumstances.circumstances.
** [[http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Cortez Cortez]] and [[http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Null Null]] were two villains planned for Sonic Universe issues that never were made due to the cancellation.
This list shows the last 10 events of 186. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Trivia.ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog