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11th Jun '18 6:14:01 AM mariofan1000
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* Many increasingly ridiculous examples on ''Manga/DragonBall'', from the use of weighted clothing to the gravity chamber introduced in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.
** In the early ''Manga/DragonBall'' manga and anime, there was PLENTY of this. Kame-sennin gave Kuririn/Krillin and Goku all sorts of tasks, ranging from toughening their hands by making them PLOW A FIELD with THEIR BARE HANDS, to wearing something like 100-pound turtle shells for endurance, to evasion/speed training by tying them to a tree near an angry hornet's nest (and all in ''a single day!''). Being an expert, Kame-sennin also makes sure they eat enough, study just as hard, and have enough rest.

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* Many increasingly ''Manga/DragonBall'' zig-zags this, with many ridiculous examples on ''Manga/DragonBall'', from training methods that would very easily kill in real life (from the use of weighted clothing to the gravity chamber introduced in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.
chamber) but it's made clear that good rests and taking breaks is just as important.
** In the early ''Manga/DragonBall'' manga and anime, there was PLENTY of this. Kame-sennin Master Roshi gave Kuririn/Krillin Krillin and Goku all sorts of tasks, ranging from toughening their hands by making them PLOW A FIELD plow a field with THEIR BARE HANDS, their bare hands, to wearing something like 100-pound turtle shells for endurance, to evasion/speed training by tying them to a tree near an angry hornet's nest (and all in ''a single day!''). Being an expert, Kame-sennin also makes sure they eat enough, study just as hard, and have enough rest.
23rd Apr '18 12:46:03 PM superkeijikun
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* Izuku receivess his in the early chapters of ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' in order to make himself capable of receiving One-For-All. A slightly more realistic example, as [[MentorArchetype All Might]] creates a very strict plan for training that includes days specifically for resting, as he points out that pushing Izuku non-stop will have the opposite effect. He is very upset when he realizes that Izuku was defying that schedule, resulting in him collapsing from exhaustion halfway through training.

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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia''
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Izuku receivess his in the early chapters of ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' in order to make himself capable of receiving One-For-All. A slightly more realistic example, as [[MentorArchetype All Might]] creates a very strict plan for training that includes days specifically for resting, as he points out that pushing Izuku non-stop will have the opposite effect. He is very upset when he realizes that Izuku was defying that schedule, resulting in him collapsing from exhaustion halfway through training.training.
** After the end of the spring semester, with villains becoming a greater threat, Aizawa has his class take a camping trip to improve their quirks. The regiments differ for each student, and include (but are not limited to) Bakugou opening his pores in hot water to create more explosive sweat, Mineta pulling more sticky balls out of his head to increase his resistance to bleeding from his quirk's overuse, Uraraka and Aoyama using their quirks liberally to combat nausea and stomach pain (respectively), and Izuku undergoing grueling physical training to increase his endurance. Students who had failed or barely passed the semester finals also had to endure night classes with Aizawa that left them with precious few hours of sleep.
5th Apr '18 2:27:57 PM LlamaAdventure
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** [[spoiler: There are some implications that Saitama's training actually ''did'' work, just not in the way that he expected. Since Mysterious Beings are former humans who transformed due to a single-minded obsession with something, Saitama's training combined with his drive to become a hero who could defeat any threat with a single punch could've transformed him into a Mysterious Being capable of doing just that.]]

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** [[spoiler: There are some implications that Saitama's training actually ''did'' work, just not in the way that he expected. Since some [[MonsterOfTheWeek Mysterious Beings Beings]] are former humans who transformed due to a single-minded obsession with something, Saitama's training combined with his drive to become a hero who could defeat any threat with a single punch could've transformed him into a Mysterious Being capable of doing just that.]]
5th Apr '18 2:25:20 PM LlamaAdventure
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** [[spoiler: There are some implications that Saitama's training actually ''did'' work, just not in the way that he expected. Since Mysterious Beings are former humans who transformed due to a single-minded obsession with something, Saitama's training combined with his drive to become a hero who could defeat any threat with a single punch could've transformed him into a Mysterious Being capable of doing just that.]]
18th Mar '18 5:05:31 AM EDP
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\n* At one point in ''Manga/CodenameSailorV'', Minako engages in an extremely strenuous training that turns her from being slightly overweight into having a fair bit of muscles in a matter of days. Differently from most examples, this was just simple training to ''slim down'' brought UpToEleven by Minako's own personality... And Artemis using the chance occasion provided by Minako getting fat to trick her into doing some physical training.




** This one got parodied in ''Manga/KekkoKamen'', where a parody of Hyuuma put Mayumi in an UpToEleven version of the spring-loaded device... For ''calligraphy training''. He mentioned someone once took ''thirty years'' to complete the training.



* At one point in ''Manga/CodenameSailorV'', Minako engages in an extremely strenuous training that turns her from being slightly overweight into having a fair bit of muscles in a matter of days. Differently from most examples, this was just simple training to ''slim down'' brought UpToEleven by Minako's own personality... And Artemis using the chance occasion provided by Minako getting fat to trick her into doing some physical training.
18th Mar '18 4:32:38 AM EDP
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* ''Manga/TigerMask'', both the manga (1968) and the anime series (1969) involved cruel methods of training used by the inherently evil "Tigers' Cave". The training included wrestling with pumas and gorillas, wrestling with lions ''using only the legs'' (the stated objective was to get MurderousThighs), push-ups on the legs with enormous weights attached to the head and spikes under the butt (notable for being an ''actual'' training exercise to improve leg strength. Of course the actual version didn't have the spikes, just your trainer ready to hit you with a shinai if you screw up), and ''being set on fire while wearing a pullover soaken in gasoline'' (the objective was to force the trainee to improve his speed while on the ground, but it became even more useful when, during a no-holds-barred match, Tiger Mask's opponent started by drenching him in gasoline and setting in on fire: after a moment of surprise that someone would actually do that in a match, Tiger Mask calmly rolled on the ground to put off the fire on himself, then [[InfernalRetaliation used his own still aflame cloak as a weapon]]).
** Also, even ''legitimate'' wrestling trainees suffer through extremely harsh training. For example, Tiger Mask's own apprentice Teppei Oiwa had Tiger Mask ready to [[LiteralAssKicking kick him in the ass]] at every screw up, Black V's training included being [[UseYourHead headbutted]] by his teacher ''Wrestling/BoboBrazil'' (''infamous'' for his HardHead) and being trained by a {{Contortionist}} (making him invulnerable to submission moves. When this was discovered, the ''whole'' wrestling world had a MassOhCrap), and when Baba decided to train Tiger Mask for his fight with Black V by ''throwing hyperspeed baseballs at him'' (in a stealth {{Crossover}} with ''Kyojin no Hoshi'' to boot: Baba was a former player, and borrowed their field, balls and bats) to teach him DeadlyDodging he told him "I'll not let you get killed ''without'' fighting! Instead, ''I'' will kill you with harsh training!" Oh, and a piece of training that Tiger Mask devised for himself involved Teppei trying to ''run him over with a car''.

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* ''Manga/TigerMask'', both the manga (1968) and the anime series (1969) involved cruel methods of training used by the inherently evil "Tigers' Cave". The training included wrestling with pumas and gorillas, wrestling with lions ''using only the legs'' (the stated objective was to get MurderousThighs), push-ups on the legs with enormous weights attached to the head and spikes under the butt (notable for being an ''actual'' training exercise to improve leg strength. Of course the actual version didn't have had smaller weights and replaced the spikes, just your spikes with a shinai-armed trainer ready to hit you with a shinai if you screw up), provide "motivation" at every screw-up), and ''being set on fire while wearing a pullover soaken in gasoline'' (the objective was to force the trainee to improve his speed while on the ground, but it became even more useful when, during a no-holds-barred match, Tiger Mask's opponent started by drenching him in gasoline and setting in on fire: after a moment of surprise that someone would actually do that in a match, Tiger Mask calmly rolled on the ground to put off the fire on himself, then [[InfernalRetaliation used his own still aflame cloak as a weapon]]).
** Also, even ''legitimate'' wrestling trainees suffer through extremely harsh training. For example, Giant Baba was noted to have gone through the leg training above (resulting in his devastating kicks) Tiger Mask's own apprentice Teppei Oiwa had Tiger Mask ready to [[LiteralAssKicking kick him in the ass]] at every screw up, up (and was also inflicted the leg training, among other exercises), Black V's training included being [[UseYourHead headbutted]] by his teacher ''Wrestling/BoboBrazil'' (''infamous'' for his HardHead) and being trained by a {{Contortionist}} (making ([[KungFuProofMook making him invulnerable to submission moves. moves]]. When this was discovered, the ''whole'' wrestling world had a MassOhCrap), and when Baba decided to train Tiger Mask for his fight with Black V he did so by ''throwing hyperspeed baseballs at him'' (in a stealth {{Crossover}} with ''Kyojin no Hoshi'' to boot: Baba was a former player, and borrowed their field, balls and bats) to teach him DeadlyDodging he told him DeadlyDodging, [[LampshadeHanging stating]]: "I'll not let you get killed ''without'' fighting! Instead, ''I'' will kill you with harsh training!" Oh, and a piece of training that Tiger Mask devised for himself involved Teppei trying to ''run him over with a car''.
18th Mar '18 4:28:49 AM EDP
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* At one point in ''Manga/CodenameSailorV'', Minako engages in an extremely strenuous training that turns her from being slightly overweight into having a fair bit of muscles in a matter of days. Differently from most examples, this was just simple training to ''slim down'' brought UpToEleven by Minako's own personality... And Artemis using the chance occasion provided by Minako getting fat to trick her into doing some physical training.
16th Mar '18 11:32:30 AM EDP
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** Naoto's training is at least as intense: involving weighted squats on what look like a hamster wheel, sparring with massive robots, and working to bodyslam 8 punching bags at once, while being fired and having the bags launched at him like pendulums. The peak of this is hanging upside down, waiting for animal to attack him so they can get dinner: to the point that he's sick of eating bear as ''he's already killed so many with his bare hands already! ''

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** Naoto's training is at least as intense: involving weighted squats on what look like a hamster wheel, sparring with massive robots, and working to bodyslam 8 punching bags at once, while being fired and having the bags launched at him like pendulums. The peak of this is hanging upside down, waiting for animal to attack him so they can get dinner: to the point that he's sick of eating bear as ''he's already killed so many with his bare hands already! ''already!'' This is {{Justified}} by his trainer being a former Tiger's Den pupil and having later been trained by the original Tiger Mask (another Tiger's Den pupil) thus knowing pretty much only that, something that [[LampshadeHanging made a former Tiger's Den managed declare that]] ThisExplainsSoMuch upon finding out.
17th Feb '18 3:49:25 AM LinTaylor
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* ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'' [[PlayedForLaughs played it for laughs]] in the infamous rugby episode, where Sosuke takes Jindai High's tea-swilling, terrified-by-moths rugby team and puts them through harsh military drills while bellowing insults straight out of ''Film/FullMetalJacket''[[note]]He got the last part from his teammate Melissa Mao's "How to Verbally Abuse a Trainee" handbook and didn't even understand half the stuff he was saying[[/note]]. He ends up turning them into bloodthirsty psychopaths who absolutely destroy the OpposingSportsTeam, while a distressed Kaname watches and remarks that whatever's going on, it's not rugby anymore.
11th Feb '18 2:40:51 PM KBABZ
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** In the early ''Manga/DragonBall'' manga and anime, there was PLENTY of this. Kame-sennin gave Kuririn/Krillin and Goku all sorts of tasks, ranging from toughening their hands by making them PLOW A FIELD with THEIR BARE HANDS, to wearing something like 100-pound turtle shells for endurance, to evasion/speed training by tying them to a tree near an angry hornet's nest (and all in ''a single day!''). Being an expert, Kame-sennin also makes sure they eat enough, study just as hard, and have enough rest.
** In contrast, Kame-Sennin's old enemy, the Crane Master, overdoes this trope, to the point that his training focuses on nothing but pain and fighting. As a result, his students are powerful, but not nearly as well-rounded as Goku and Krillin. The only reason Tenshinhan won his fight with Goku was dumb luck, and Chao-Tzu lost outright against Krillin because Krillin outwitted him with a simple math quiz.
** Early on, when Goku still had his tail; it was an easily exploitable weakness for his opponents. Squeezing it caused pain on the level of a GroinAttack and made him lose all his strength. How does he overcome this? He specifically trains for it: in the anime it's shown he goes to live with monkeys, using his tail for everything. By the time the next tournament arrived, grabbing it had no effect at all.
** Goku's training with Kami takes a page from Roshi's playbook: Goku wears weighted boots, wristbands and undershirt, which Goku would remove when a fight got serious (such as against Tien or Raditz). Piccolo used a similar strategy with weighted shoulder pads and turban. [[SoLastSeason This got phased out]] after the training with King Kai in favour of high gravity training and using normal clothes.



** Gohan gets so used to hellish training that when Goku tries training him in a more normal manner, Gohan snaps at him that he's not pushing hard enough and is too soft to give Gohan the challenges he needs. Goku responds to this by turning Super Saiyan and unleashing a full power Kamehameha on Gohan... to which Gohan replies "That's better!"

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** *** Gohan gets so used to hellish training that when Goku tries training him in a more normal manner, Gohan snaps at him that he's not pushing hard enough and is too soft to give Gohan the challenges he needs. Goku responds to this by turning Super Saiyan and unleashing a full power Kamehameha on Gohan... to which Gohan replies "That's better!"better!"
** In ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', high gravity training becomes common after Goku is killed by Raditz and goes to King Kai's world, which had 10x Earth's gravity.[[note]]Incidentally, this is the same gravity as the Saiyan homeworld, so Goku had been ''taking it easy'' up until that point![[/note]] Later on Yamcha, Piccolo, Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu are killed and train there as well. Past this point, Gravity Chambers are introduced that can be cranked up to 100x Earth's gravity, which Goku does to prepare for the fight against Frieza. This would normally make your blood crystallize, [[CaptainObvious which would be fatal]], but, well, [[RuleOfCool this is Dragon Ball]]; Saiyans have proved time and again to be a very durable race. Souls given form also seem to be inherently more durable than an actual living person, which might explain how the humans managed.
** Additionally, while training to fight the Saiyans, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin, and Chiaotzu are trained in the Room of Time and Space similar to the ComicBook/XMen's "Danger Room", wherein they are forced to fight Saiyans who are vastly overpowered and utterly decimate them with energy blasts that shoot through their bodies and are actually painful.
** And just when poor Gohan gets out of training, [[EducationMama Chi-Chi makes him to study with the same mindset]].
** Vegeta goes through a mental one of these when trying to achieve Super Saiyan for the first time: he only manages to do it simply because ''his own self-loathing at being inferior to Goku'' is the traumatic event triggers the transformation!
** The Cell Saga gives us The Room of Spirit and Time, also known as the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. What makes it this trope is the classic 10x gravity in every spot except the lobby area, as well as near-instant temperature swings. One moment it's incredibly hot to the point of suffocating, and the next it's frigid cold!



** In ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Goku, and later Yamcha, Piccolo, Tenshinhan, and Chiaotzu, are killed and sent to the underworld, where they train in 10x Earth's gravity. They are later brought to life with the Dragonballs. Goku also trains in 100x Earth Gravity in preparation to fight Frieza. At high levels of gravity the pressure would make your blood crystallize, which would be fatal. King Kai explained the great strength of the Saiyans partly derives from the fact that their home planet had the exact gravity as his own planet. Saiyans have proved time and again to be a very durable race. Souls given form also seem to be inherently more durable than an actual living person, which might explain how the humans managed.
** Additionally, while training to fight the Saiyans, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin, and Chiaotzu are trained in the room of time and space similar to the ComicBook/XMen's "Danger Room", wherein they are forced to fight Saiyans who are vastly overpowered and utterly decimate them with energy blasts that shoot through their bodies and are actually painful.
** And just when poor Gohan gets out of training, [[EducationMama Chi-Chi makes him to study with the same mindset]].
** Even in the early ''Manga/DragonBall'' manga and anime, there was PLENTY of this. Kame-sennin gave Kuririn/Krillin and Goku all sorts of tasks, ranging from toughening their hands by making them PLOW A FIELD with THEIR BARE HANDS, to wearing something like 100-pound turtle shells for endurance, to evasion/speed training by tying them to a tree near an angry hornet's nest. Being an expert, Kame-sennin also makes sure they eat enough, study just as hard, and have enough rest.
** In contrast, Kame-Sennin's old enemy, the Crane Master, overdoes this trope, to the point that his training focuses on nothing but pain and fighting. As a result, his students are powerful, but not nearly as well-rounded as Goku and Krillin. The only reason Tenshinhan won his fight with Goku was dumb luck, and Chao-Tzu lost outright against Krillin because Krillin outwitted him with a simple math quiz.
** Early on, when Goku still had his tail; it was an easily exploitable weakness for his opponents. Squeezing it caused pain on the level of a GroinAttack and made him lose all his strength. How does he overcome this? He goes to live with monkeys, using his tail for everything. By the time the next tournament arrived, grabbing it had no effect at all.
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