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4th May '16 10:14:22 PM Fireblood
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* SolarPoweredMagnifyingGlass: The gods used a set of lens to ignite the Olympic torch.

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* SolarPoweredMagnifyingGlass: The gods used a set of lens lenses to ignite the Olympic torch.
16th Jan '16 3:02:16 AM Anddrix
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{{Aristophanes}}' Ancient Greek comedy, originally written in 423 BCE and revised some years later, was originally written for Dionysia, a festival honoring [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Dionysus, the god of wine and partying]]. It shows, no thanks to the humor, which is crude and at times [[ToiletHumor scatological]]. It treats the [[ViewersAreMorons viewers like morons]], making a complete fool out of Creator/{{Socrates}} (who, although he is a MagnificentBastard, was certainly not an idiot) and making fun of his profession. Perhaps that's why it was voted last out of three plays which were performed at the Dionysia that year. Nevertheless it's still performed; it's the oldest of Aristophanes' works that anybody who isn't a specialist has heard of, and so is quite possibly the oldest comedy still staged with any regularity.

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{{Aristophanes}}' Ancient Greek comedy, originally written in 423 BCE and revised some years later, was originally written for Dionysia, a festival honoring [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Dionysus, the god of wine and partying]]. It shows, no thanks to the humor, which is crude and at times [[ToiletHumor scatological]]. It treats the [[ViewersAreMorons viewers like morons]], morons, making a complete fool out of Creator/{{Socrates}} (who, although he is a MagnificentBastard, was certainly not an idiot) and making fun of his profession. Perhaps that's why it was voted last out of three plays which were performed at the Dionysia that year. Nevertheless it's still performed; it's the oldest of Aristophanes' works that anybody who isn't a specialist has heard of, and so is quite possibly the oldest comedy still staged with any regularity.
19th Dec '15 10:06:53 AM Michael
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* GoneHorriblyRight: Strepsiades gets out of debt by turning his freeloading, parasitic son into a ManipulativeBastard and setting him the task of persuading his creditors to go away. He now has a freeloading, parasitic ManipulativeBastard of a son to deal with, and things begin to get worse.
28th Nov '15 10:14:36 AM MarkLungo
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* BarefootLoon: How Socrates is portrayed.
6th Nov '15 3:44:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* Creator/{{Socrates}}: As previously mentioned, Socrates-much like his contemporary Chaerophon would be if, y'know, he actually spoke in the play-is completely out of character (if Creator/{{Plato}}'s dialogues are to be believed). He stays inside the Thinkery all day, flitters about pondering scientific mysteries such as "How far can a flea jump?" and teaches young Greeks rhetoric, which-in RealLife, at least-was left to the sophists.
4th May '15 11:47:17 AM nombretomado
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{{Aristophanes}}' Ancient Greek comedy, originally written in 423 BCE and revised some years later, was originally written for Dionysia, a festival honoring [[ClassicalMythology Dionysus, the god of wine and partying]]. It shows, no thanks to the humor, which is crude and at times [[ToiletHumor scatological]]. It treats the [[ViewersAreMorons viewers like morons]], making a complete fool out of Creator/{{Socrates}} (who, although he is a MagnificentBastard, was certainly not an idiot) and making fun of his profession. Perhaps that's why it was voted last out of three plays which were performed at the Dionysia that year. Nevertheless it's still performed; it's the oldest of Aristophanes' works that anybody who isn't a specialist has heard of, and so is quite possibly the oldest comedy still staged with any regularity.

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{{Aristophanes}}' Ancient Greek comedy, originally written in 423 BCE and revised some years later, was originally written for Dionysia, a festival honoring [[ClassicalMythology [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Dionysus, the god of wine and partying]]. It shows, no thanks to the humor, which is crude and at times [[ToiletHumor scatological]]. It treats the [[ViewersAreMorons viewers like morons]], making a complete fool out of Creator/{{Socrates}} (who, although he is a MagnificentBastard, was certainly not an idiot) and making fun of his profession. Perhaps that's why it was voted last out of three plays which were performed at the Dionysia that year. Nevertheless it's still performed; it's the oldest of Aristophanes' works that anybody who isn't a specialist has heard of, and so is quite possibly the oldest comedy still staged with any regularity.
1st Nov '14 5:35:11 PM Fireblood
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** Debatable: Socrates was accused of worshipping new Gods and being a sophist in his trial, while this play shows him doing exactly that. It's hard for people now adays to say whether the play was meant to be ridiculous or if there was some indirect accusations in it that Aristophanes didn't want to bring to court. At very least, it's HarsherInHindsight but it might also be a massive TakeThat that lead to some younger people taking Socrates to court themselves.

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** Debatable: Socrates was accused of worshipping worshiping new Gods and being a sophist in his trial, while this play shows him doing exactly that. It's hard for people now adays nowadays to say whether the play was meant to be ridiculous or if there was some indirect accusations in it that Aristophanes didn't want to bring to court. At very least, it's HarsherInHindsight but it might also be a massive TakeThat that lead led to some younger people taking Socrates to court themselves.



** ValuesDissonance: The Greek male beauty/virility standard didn't feature a large penis; such a thing was seen as coarse and ridiculous.
* DisproportionateRetribution: [[spoiler:When the philosophers fail to teach his son properly, Strepsiades sees fit to burn down the Thinkery]]

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** ValuesDissonance: The Greek male beauty/virility standard didn't feature a large penis; such a thing was seen as coarse and ridiculous.
ridiculous. This is because they viewed prepubescent boys as the ideal.
* DisproportionateRetribution: [[spoiler:When the philosophers fail to teach his son properly, Strepsiades sees fit to burn down the Thinkery]]Thinkery.]]



* Creator/{{Socrates}}: As previously mentioned, Socrates -- much like his contemporary Chaerophon would be if, y'know, he actually spoke in the play -- is completely out of character (if Creator/{{Plato}}'s dialogues are to be believed). He stays inside the Thinkery all day; flitters about pondering scientific mysteries such as "How far can a flea jump?"; and teaches young Greeks rhetoric, which -- in RealLife, at least -- was left to the sophists.

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* Creator/{{Socrates}}: As previously mentioned, Socrates -- much Socrates-much like his contemporary Chaerophon would be if, y'know, he actually spoke in the play -- is play-is completely out of character (if Creator/{{Plato}}'s dialogues are to be believed). He stays inside the Thinkery all day; day, flitters about pondering scientific mysteries such as "How far can a flea jump?"; jump?" and teaches young Greeks rhetoric, which -- in which-in RealLife, at least -- was least-was left to the sophists.
18th Dec '13 2:51:22 AM Fireblood
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* GoodAngelBadAngel: the roles of Good and Bad Angel are played by a personified Right and Wrong arguments, who try to persuade the protagonist's son Pheidippides either to avoid or to enter into Creator/{{Socrates}}'s sophistical "Thinkery," making this trope ''[[OlderThanFeudalism palaioteros apo to chôma]]''.
* MetaphoricallyTrue: Socrates' teaching are based on relativity of everything and bending word meanings to suit one's will.

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* GoodAngelBadAngel: the The roles of Good and Bad Angel are played by a personified Right and Wrong arguments, who try to persuade the protagonist's son Pheidippides either to avoid or to enter into Creator/{{Socrates}}'s sophistical "Thinkery," making this trope ''[[OlderThanFeudalism palaioteros apo to chôma]]''.
* MetaphoricallyTrue: Socrates' teaching teachings are based on relativity of everything and bending word meanings to suit one's will.
1st Jul '13 9:19:46 PM karstovich2
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{{Aristophanes}}' Ancient Greek comedy, originally written in 423 BCE and revised some years later, was originally written for Dionysia, a festival honoring [[ClassicalMythology Dionysus, the god of wine and partying]]. It shows, no thanks to the humor, which is crude and at times [[ToiletHumor scatological]]. It treats the [[ViewersAreMorons viewers like morons]], making a complete fool out of Creator/{{Socrates}} (who, although he is a MagnificentBastard, was certainly not an idiot) and making fun of his profession. Perhaps that's why it was voted last out of three plays which were performed at the Dionysia that year.

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{{Aristophanes}}' Ancient Greek comedy, originally written in 423 BCE and revised some years later, was originally written for Dionysia, a festival honoring [[ClassicalMythology Dionysus, the god of wine and partying]]. It shows, no thanks to the humor, which is crude and at times [[ToiletHumor scatological]]. It treats the [[ViewersAreMorons viewers like morons]], making a complete fool out of Creator/{{Socrates}} (who, although he is a MagnificentBastard, was certainly not an idiot) and making fun of his profession. Perhaps that's why it was voted last out of three plays which were performed at the Dionysia that year. Nevertheless it's still performed; it's the oldest of Aristophanes' works that anybody who isn't a specialist has heard of, and so is quite possibly the oldest comedy still staged with any regularity.
29th Jun '13 4:29:50 PM WillBGood
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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: [[InvertedTrope Inverted.]] According to the play, if you're a good man, your penis will be nice and small.

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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: [[InvertedTrope Inverted.]] {{Inverted|Trope}}. According to the play, if you're a good man, your penis will be nice and small.small.
** ValuesDissonance: The Greek male beauty/virility standard didn't feature a large penis; such a thing was seen as coarse and ridiculous.
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