History Theatre / Tannhaeuser

17th Oct '15 7:03:03 PM nombretomado
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Wagner based the plot of his opera on a conflation of two originally unconnected legends. The first tells of a minnesinger (or "minstrel of love") and knight, called ''the'' Tannhäuser (literally, "man from the fir-tree-home"), who descended into a subterranean kingdom under a mountain (the so-called "Mountain of Venus" or ''Venusberg'', identified by Wagner with the real [[http://www.grosserhoerselberg.de/garbage/31/318277/1222017.jpg Hörselberg]] near the town of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenach Eisenach]]) and won the favors of the goddess of love (called alternately Venus or Holda, her Latin or German names, by Wagner); after a period of some years, the knight repented and fled the Venusberg to seek penance from [[ThePope Pope Urban IV]]; the pope rejects his penitence, telling him that sooner will his staff grow new leaves than forgiveness be possible for such as he, and Tannhäuser, despairing, returns to Venus -- three days later the staff does indeed burst into leaf, but the pope's messengers cannot find the knight. The second tells of the "War of Song" conducted by the legendary minnesinger Heinrich von Ofterdingen (and his sorcerous companion Clinschor (=Klingsor (!)) of Hungary) against the most famous minstrels of mediæval Germany at the court of ''Landgraf'' (or "territorial count") Hermann von [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Thüringen]]; in the course of which Clinschor prophecies the birth of Elizabeth of Hungary, later to be the wife of the Landgrave's son and a canonized saint. Wagner radically reshaped these legends, identifying the [[HistoricalDomainCharacter historical]] (though pseudonymous) Tannhäuser with the (probably) mythical Ofterdingen, and transporting the former from his own time (''fl. c''. 1250 A.D.) to that of Landgrave Hermann I of Thuringia, some 50 years before, and transforming the Landgrave's daughter-in-law into his niece and Tannhäuser's true love

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Wagner based the plot of his opera on a conflation of two originally unconnected legends. The first tells of a minnesinger (or "minstrel of love") and knight, called ''the'' Tannhäuser (literally, "man from the fir-tree-home"), who descended into a subterranean kingdom under a mountain (the so-called "Mountain of Venus" or ''Venusberg'', identified by Wagner with the real [[http://www.grosserhoerselberg.de/garbage/31/318277/1222017.jpg Hörselberg]] near the town of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenach Eisenach]]) and won the favors of the goddess of love (called alternately Venus or Holda, her Latin or German names, by Wagner); after a period of some years, the knight repented and fled the Venusberg to seek penance from [[ThePope [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope Urban IV]]; the pope rejects his penitence, telling him that sooner will his staff grow new leaves than forgiveness be possible for such as he, and Tannhäuser, despairing, returns to Venus -- three days later the staff does indeed burst into leaf, but the pope's messengers cannot find the knight. The second tells of the "War of Song" conducted by the legendary minnesinger Heinrich von Ofterdingen (and his sorcerous companion Clinschor (=Klingsor (!)) of Hungary) against the most famous minstrels of mediæval Germany at the court of ''Landgraf'' (or "territorial count") Hermann von [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Thüringen]]; in the course of which Clinschor prophecies the birth of Elizabeth of Hungary, later to be the wife of the Landgrave's son and a canonized saint. Wagner radically reshaped these legends, identifying the [[HistoricalDomainCharacter historical]] (though pseudonymous) Tannhäuser with the (probably) mythical Ofterdingen, and transporting the former from his own time (''fl. c''. 1250 A.D.) to that of Landgrave Hermann I of Thuringia, some 50 years before, and transforming the Landgrave's daughter-in-law into his niece and Tannhäuser's true love
31st May '15 6:22:24 AM TheNerfGuy
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Wagner's identification of Tannhäuser with Heinrich von Ofterdingen may have been suggested by Ludwig Bechstein and Christoph Theodor Leopold's similar (and dubious) identification, some fifteen years earlier.



* RecursiveImport: Various portions of ''Tannhäuser'' were rewritten for the Paris production, and the words had to be retranslated into German.
* TenorBoy: Heinrich and Walther.
* UnfortunateName: Wagner's original name for his opera was ''Der Venusberg'', but he was convinced to change it when the [[DoubleEntendre unfortunate implications]] of translating it into French were pointed out to him -- since « ''La Monte de Vénus'' » ("The Mountain of Venus") is one letter off from « ''mont de Vénus'' » ("mound of Venus") which refers to the pubic mound.
** And the "Wartburg" in question is the castle and not TheAllegedCar [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartburg_(car) named after it]].

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* RecursiveImport: Various portions of ''Tannhäuser'' were rewritten for the Paris production, and the words had to be retranslated into German.
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%%* TenorBoy: Heinrich and Walther.
* UnfortunateName: UnfortunateName:
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Wagner's original name for his opera was ''Der Venusberg'', but he was convinced to change it when the [[DoubleEntendre unfortunate implications]] of translating it into French were pointed out to him -- since « ''La Monte de Vénus'' » ("The Mountain of Venus") is one letter off from « ''mont de Vénus'' » ("mound of Venus") which refers to the pubic mound.
** And the "Wartburg" in question is the castle and not TheAllegedCar [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartburg_(car) named after it]].
31st May '15 6:20:06 AM TheNerfGuy
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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Elisabeth ignores the virtuous, chivalrous Wolfram while pining away for the arrogant Heinrich, who has forsaken the Minnesingers and is living with a pagan goddess. When he admits his evil and is sent away on pilgrimage, she prays for him and ignores Wolfram some more. And when Heinrich comes back having failed to get absolution for his sins, she dies for him.



* BettyAndVeronica: Elisabeth and Venus.

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* %%* BettyAndVeronica: Elisabeth and Venus.
30th May '15 7:08:15 PM Alberich
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* NiceGuysFinishLast: Elisabeth pines for, chases, pleads for, prays for, and ultimately dies for the arrogant, blasphemous Heinrich. The kindly, chivalrous Wolfram (who is all-too-obviously pining away for her) never gets a second look.
30th May '15 6:56:37 PM Alberich
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* {{Flanderization}}: Happens to, of all things, the staff. In the original and Wagner's version, the staff is to send forth new leaves; some productions and later depictions (''e.g''., Creator/HGWells' ''The Man Who Could Work Miracles'') make the staff burst into ''bloom'', particularly roses.

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* {{Flanderization}}: Happens to, of all things, the Pope's staff. In the original and Wagner's version, the staff is to send forth new leaves; some productions and later depictions (''e.g''., Creator/HGWells' ''The Man Who Could Work Miracles'') make the staff burst into ''bloom'', particularly roses.
30th May '15 6:55:24 PM Alberich
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* DesignatedHero: Heinrich is traditionally the least popular of Wagner's heroes, being a wishy-washy whiner and obviously ''far'' less worthy of Elisabeth than Wolfram.
30th Dec '14 12:34:37 PM nombretomado
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* {{Flanderization}}: Happens to, of all things, the staff. In the original and Wagner's version, the staff is to send forth new leaves; some productions and later depictions (''e.g''., [[HGWells H.G. Wells]]' ''The Man Who Could Work Miracles'') make the staff burst into ''bloom'', particularly roses.

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* {{Flanderization}}: Happens to, of all things, the staff. In the original and Wagner's version, the staff is to send forth new leaves; some productions and later depictions (''e.g''., [[HGWells H.G. Wells]]' Creator/HGWells' ''The Man Who Could Work Miracles'') make the staff burst into ''bloom'', particularly roses.
12th Apr '14 7:08:54 AM MrKurtz
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* TheHighMiddleAges: Around the turn of the 12th/13th centuries, though some producers like to costume it in the style of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manesse_Codex Manesse Codex]] from the first half of the 14th. (This MS. gives us the famous [[http://cafe.joins.com/cafeimage/k/y/kyunggi58/Der%20Tannhauser%20by%20Codex%20Manesse%20480x668.jpg representation]] of the orginal Tannhäuser wearing the habit of TheTeutonicKnights.)

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* TheHighMiddleAges: Around the turn of the 12th/13th centuries, though some producers like to costume it in the style of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manesse_Codex Manesse Codex]] from the first half of the 14th. (This MS. gives us the famous [[http://cafe.joins.com/cafeimage/k/y/kyunggi58/Der%20Tannhauser%20by%20Codex%20Manesse%20480x668.[[http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglitData/image/cpg848/2/264r.jpg representation]] of the orginal Tannhäuser wearing the habit of TheTeutonicKnights.)
6th Aug '13 6:16:13 PM Willbyr
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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: As in these lines: ''Wenn wir den grimmen Welfen widerstanden,/Und den verderbenvollen Zwiespalt wehrten...''‟[[hottip:*:"If we withstood the grim Guelphs, and warded off disastrous division...]]

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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: As in these lines: ''Wenn wir den grimmen Welfen widerstanden,/Und den verderbenvollen Zwiespalt wehrten...''‟[[hottip:*:"If ''‟[[labelnote:English]]"If we withstood the grim Guelphs, and warded off disastrous division...]][[/labelnote]]


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4th Jul '13 11:57:39 AM Deusirae76
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'''''Tannhäuser und der Sängerkrieg auf Wartburg''''' (or, in English, "Tannhäuser and the Song-Contest at the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartburg_castle Wartburg Castle]]") is a "romantic opera in three acts" by Creator/RichardWagner. The opera first premiered in Dresden in 1845, but a revised and extended version (translated into French!) was prepared by the composer for the Paris ''Opéra'' in 1861, and it is this later version that is more commonly performed today (in a suitably Teutonic retranslation by the composer).

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'''''Tannhäuser und der Sängerkrieg auf Wartburg''''' (or, in English, "Tannhäuser and the Song-Contest at the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartburg_castle Wartburg Castle]]") Castle]]"), more commonly know as '''''Tannhäuser ''''', is a "romantic opera in three acts" by Creator/RichardWagner. The opera first premiered in Dresden in 1845, but a revised and extended version (translated into French!) was prepared by the composer for the Paris ''Opéra'' in 1861, and it is this later version that is more commonly performed today (in a suitably Teutonic retranslation by the composer).
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