History Theatre / SweeneyToddtheDemonBarberofFleetStreet

26th Apr '16 8:22:19 AM MasoTey
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: It's usually a well-known fact that the [[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to the original story. The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which have his roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from Sweeney's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: It's usually a well-known fact that the [[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to the original story. The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which have his has its roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from Sweeney's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.
26th Apr '16 5:59:27 AM thewhitefairy
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory:It's usually a well-known fact that the[[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to the original story. The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which have his roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from Sweeney's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory:It's VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: It's usually a well-known fact that the[[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet the [[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to the original story. The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which have his roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from Sweeney's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.
26th Apr '16 5:57:48 AM thewhitefairy
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory:It's usually a well-known fact that the[[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to the original story. The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which have his roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from Sweeney's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.
21st Apr '16 1:22:26 PM PistolsAtDawn
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* PreInsanityReveal: the homeless madwoman that hangs around the barber shop is revealed to be [[spoiler: Sweeney's long-lost wife, Lucy.]] Unfortunately, this isn't revealed--either to Sweeney or the audience--until [[spoiler: ''after he murders her''.]]
11th Apr '16 7:40:27 PM MasoTey
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** Final Scene: Sweeney sings a line from "No Place Like London" with underscoring again from "Epiphany"while Mrs. Lovett reprises "Poor Thing". They then reprise "A Little Priest" and Mrs. Lovett sings "By The Sea". Finally, Sweeney sings "A Barber and His Wife".

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** Final Scene: Sweeney sings a line from "No Place Like London" with underscoring again from "Epiphany"while "Epiphany" while Mrs. Lovett reprises "Poor Thing". They then reprise "A Little Priest" and Mrs. Lovett sings "By The Sea". Finally, Sweeney sings "A Barber and His Wife".
11th Apr '16 7:09:31 PM MasoTey
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* AccidentalAdultery: DependingOnTheWriter; in versions in which Todd and Mrs. Lovett's relationship is romantic, such as the Creator/StephenSondheim musical and the Creator/TimBurton film version, it comes out that Todd has unwittingly committed adultery when his wife Lucy turns up alive but insane. He is [[TranquilFury not happy]] with Lovett when he finds out that she knew all along.

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* AccidentalAdultery: DependingOnTheWriter; in versions in which Todd and Mrs. Lovett's relationship is romantic, such as the Creator/StephenSondheim musical and the Creator/TimBurton film version, it It comes out that Todd has unwittingly committed adultery when his wife Lucy turns up alive but insane. He is [[TranquilFury not happy]] with Lovett when he finds out that she knew all along.



* DamselInDistress: Subverted -- although her character mostly fits the trope, in a memorable scene, Anthony rescues Johanna from a madhouse where she is being imprisoned, pointing a gun at the asylum keeper. After Anthony admits he can't shoot, Johanna picks up the gun and kills the asylum keeper.

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* DamselInDistress: DamselInDistress:
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Subverted -- although her in the stage version. Although Johanna's character mostly fits the trope, in a memorable scene, Anthony rescues Johanna her from a madhouse where she is being imprisoned, pointing a gun at the asylum keeper. After Anthony admits he can't shoot, Johanna picks up the gun and kills the asylum keeper.keeper.
** Played straighter in the film, in which neither Anthony nor Johanna shoots the asylum keeper -- [[spoiler:they leave him to be torn apart by the abused inmates]].
3rd Apr '16 4:09:59 PM CamrocG
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** Another, more dramatic example plays in the final scene, [[spoiler: when Sweeney sees the face of the beggar woman he has just murdered, and recognises her as his wife, Lucy.]]
24th Feb '16 2:27:05 PM Theatre_Maven_3695
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** Pirelli - tenor/counter-tenor

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** Pirelli - tenor/counter-tenortenor/counter-tenor ( this role is sometimes played by [[CrosscastRole a soprano in drag,]] because of its high range (two, sometimes 3 high Cs!) for example in the 2005 revival version.)
28th Nov '15 9:40:26 PM Lullabee
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* IncestSubtext: Lightly hinted at in the reprise of "Johanna"; Sweeney talks about how beautiful he thinks Johanna probably is, and that she might "look too much" like Lucy, and that maybe it's better that they don't meet again. Although maybe he's just saying that having a living reminder of her would make him miss Lucy too much.
14th Nov '15 5:19:26 AM grabaham
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* CutSong: The Judge's 'Johanna' was cut from the original production because it held up the plot (and is incredibly creepy) but appears on the original cast album and was eventually reinstated. The tooth pulling part of the Contest is also often cut, and "Parlour Songs" is sometimes heavily abbreviated.
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