History Theatre / SweeneyToddtheDemonBarberofFleetStreet

29th Apr '18 5:50:48 PM WilliamRadarStorm
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-->'''Mrs. Lovett''': This may bit a bit stringy, but then again, it ''is'' fiddle player.\\
'''Todd''': No, this isn't fiddle player! It's ''piccolo'' player!\\
'''Mrs. Lovett''': How can you tell?\\
'''Todd''': It's piping hot!\\
'''Mrs. Lovett''': Then blow on it first!



* LeastRhymableWord: "Locksmith."

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* LeastRhymableWord: In "A Little Priest," there's a moment where Mrs. Lovett offers Todd a flavor of pie ("Tinker?") only for Todd to reject it with a rhyme ("No, something pinker."), getting progressively more difficult and closer to PainfulRhyme territory as they go. The word Todd ''can't'' rhyme is "Locksmith.""
15th Apr '18 2:50:43 PM WilliamRadarStorm
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* HypocriticalHumor: "Wouldn't do in my shop/why the thought's enough to make you sick/and I'm telling you them pussycats is quick!"

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* HypocriticalHumor: In "The Worst Pies in London," Mrs. Lovett condemns her neighbor, Mrs. Mooney, for stealing her neighbor's cats and baking them into pies. Almost immediately afterwards, she claims she "Wouldn't do in my shop/why the thought's thought of it's enough to make you sick/and I'm telling you them pussycats is quick!"



** Pirelli.

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** Pirelli.Pirelli, notably, is written for an opera tenor when the others are just written for regular theatre voices.



* [[PreAsskickingOneLiner Pre-Asskicking]][=/=]PreMortemOneLiner: "BENJAMIN BARKER!!!"

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* [[PreAsskickingOneLiner Pre-Asskicking]][=/=]PreMortemOneLiner: Before [[spoiler:killing Turpin]], Sweeney finally tells him who he is: "BENJAMIN BARKER!!!"



* SayMyName: '''''BENJAMIN BARKER!'''''

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* SayMyName: '''''BENJAMIN BARKER!'''''Both [[spoiler:Turpin's]] FamousLastWords, and Sweeney's PreMortemOneLiner as he does it are "'''''BENJAMIN BARKER!'''''"



* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: It's usually a well-known fact that the [[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to the original story. The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which has its roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from ''Sweeney'' 's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: It's usually a well-known fact that the [[Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet musical]] musical added stories of revenge, a judge, and Sweeney's daughter to [[Theatre/SweeneyTodd the original story. story.]] The latter was originally a novel, itself based on an UrbanLegend...which has its roots in a true story. The latter is quite different from ''Sweeney'' 's scenario, though, except it involved cannibalism. It happened in Paris, not London, and as soon as [[TheMiddleAges 1387]], in Marmousets street. Also, the baker was male, not female, and named Pierre Miquelon, while his barber neighbor was Barnabé Cabard. Their motivation was apparently simply greed, (no revenge story here) and they were burned at the stake after it was discovered they used students corpses to do pâtés. Ironically, Barnabé is nowadays often described as a [[AdaptationDisplacement "french Sweeney Todd"]], while it's actually the other way round.



* VillainSong: "Epiphany", Turpin's "Johanna"

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* VillainSong: "Epiphany", Turpin's "Johanna""Johanna", and a [[TheVillainSucksSong "The Villain Protagonist Sucks" song]] with "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd" itself.



** And a [[TheVillainSucksSong "The Villain Protagonist Sucks" song]] with "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd" itself.



** Pirelli tenor/counter-tenor ( this role is sometimes played by [[CrosscastRole a soprano in drag,]] because of its high range (two, sometimes 3 high Cs!) for example in the 2005 revival version.)

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** Pirelli Operatic tenor/counter-tenor ( this role is sometimes played by [[CrosscastRole a soprano in drag,]] because of its high range (two, sometimes 3 high Cs!) for example in the 2005 revival version.)
20th Mar '18 11:00:23 AM urutapu
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* MeaningfulName: "Tod(d)" is German for "death."

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* MeaningfulName: MeaningfulName:
** Perhaps unintentional: the name "Sweeney" is an anglicized version of the name Suibne, a (legendary) mad king of Ireland.
"Tod(d)" is German for "death."



** Perhaps unintentional: the name "Sweeney" is an anglicized version of the name Suibne, a (legendary) mad king of Ireland.
5th Mar '18 4:31:02 PM nombretomado
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''Sweeney Todd'' (subtitled "The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"), is a highly-regarded musical with music and lyrics by StephenSondheim and book by Hugh Wheeler. It is based on the Christopher Bond version of [[Theatre/SweeneyTodd the legendary story of an English barber]] who murdered his customers and, with the help of his neighbor Mrs. Lovett, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies made them into pies]]. In this version of the story, Todd is out to get revenge on a corrupt Judge who sent him to prison on false charges, raped his wife, and [[WifeHusbandry "adopted"]] his daughter fifteen years ago. Mrs. Lovett enables Todd's bloodlust as it helps out her business, but also tries to dissuade him from this goal so that he can settle down with her.

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''Sweeney Todd'' (subtitled "The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"), is a highly-regarded musical with music and lyrics by StephenSondheim Music/StephenSondheim and book by Hugh Wheeler. It is based on the Christopher Bond version of [[Theatre/SweeneyTodd the legendary story of an English barber]] who murdered his customers and, with the help of his neighbor Mrs. Lovett, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies made them into pies]]. In this version of the story, Todd is out to get revenge on a corrupt Judge who sent him to prison on false charges, raped his wife, and [[WifeHusbandry "adopted"]] his daughter fifteen years ago. Mrs. Lovett enables Todd's bloodlust as it helps out her business, but also tries to dissuade him from this goal so that he can settle down with her.
12th Oct '17 4:12:39 PM Hippopotaschat
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* KillEmAll: Were you expecting a revenge tragedy to have a happy ending? [[spoiler:Sweeney Todd, Judge Turpin, Lucy, and Mrs. Lovett are all dead. Only Toby, Johanna, and Anthony are all alive. The police burst into the bakehouse just after Toby has slit Sweeney's throat, and is deliriously repeating Mrs. Lovett's secret of how to make the pies juicy and tender. "Three times, that's the secret.. three times through the grinder." This suggests that Toby is on his way to a BedlamHouse. Anthony and Johanna are also there with the police, Johanna presumably having gone to them about the fact that Todd nearly killed her. Presumably they get a happy ending given that the Judge and Beadle aren't around to have Johanna re-committed, but it's still pretty gruesome...]]

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* KillEmAll: Were you expecting a revenge tragedy to have a happy ending? [[spoiler:Sweeney Todd, Judge Turpin, Beadle Bamford, Lucy, and Mrs. Lovett are all dead. Only Toby, Johanna, and Anthony are all alive. The police burst into the bakehouse just after Toby has slit Sweeney's throat, and is deliriously repeating Mrs. Lovett's secret of how to make the pies juicy and tender. "Three times, that's the secret.. three times through the grinder." This suggests that Toby is on his way to a BedlamHouse. Anthony and Johanna are also there with the police, Johanna presumably having gone to them about the fact that Todd nearly killed her. Presumably they get a happy ending given that the Judge and Beadle aren't around to have Johanna re-committed, but it's still pretty gruesome...]]
12th Oct '17 3:40:22 PM Hippopotaschat
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** [[spoiler:This is debatable, as it is never stated or really insinuated that Todd and Lovett have slept together, aside from a couple lines in 'By The Sea' which seem to be more of Mrs. Lovett's wishful thinking than any sort of confirmation of adultery.]]
19th Sep '17 9:43:06 PM Dottore
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* EvilSoundsDeep: Sweeney is a bass-baritone and Judge Turpin a bass. On the other hand, the Beadle and Pirelli are both Counter-Tenors. This is countered out with Anthony's high, innocent tones.

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* EvilSoundsDeep: Sweeney is a bass-baritone and Judge Turpin a bass. On the other hand, the Beadle and Pirelli are both Counter-Tenors.high Tenors. This is countered out with Anthony's high, innocent tones.
17th Sep '17 10:34:31 AM infernape612
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* [[spoiler:KillEmAll]]: Were you expecting a revenge tragedy to have a happy ending? [[spoiler:Sweeney Todd, Judge Turpin, Lucy, and Mrs. Lovett are all dead. Only Toby, Johanna, and Anthony are all alive. The police burst into the bakehouse just after Toby has slit Sweeney's throat, and is deliriously repeating Mrs. Lovett's secret of how to make the pies juicy and tender. "Three times, that's the secret.. three times through the grinder." This suggests that Toby is on his way to a BedlamHouse. Anthony and Johanna are also there with the police, Johanna presumably having gone to them about the fact that Todd nearly killed her. Presumably they get a happy ending given that the Judge and Beadle aren't around to have Johanna re-committed, but it's still pretty gruesome...]]

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* [[spoiler:KillEmAll]]: KillEmAll: Were you expecting a revenge tragedy to have a happy ending? [[spoiler:Sweeney Todd, Judge Turpin, Lucy, and Mrs. Lovett are all dead. Only Toby, Johanna, and Anthony are all alive. The police burst into the bakehouse just after Toby has slit Sweeney's throat, and is deliriously repeating Mrs. Lovett's secret of how to make the pies juicy and tender. "Three times, that's the secret.. three times through the grinder." This suggests that Toby is on his way to a BedlamHouse. Anthony and Johanna are also there with the police, Johanna presumably having gone to them about the fact that Todd nearly killed her. Presumably they get a happy ending given that the Judge and Beadle aren't around to have Johanna re-committed, but it's still pretty gruesome...]]
31st Aug '17 8:08:44 PM HeraldAlberich
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''Sweeney Todd'' (subtitled "The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"), is a highly-regarded musical with music and lyrics by StephenSondheim and book by Hugh Wheeler. It is based on the Christopher Bond version of the legendary story of an English barber who murdered his customers and, with the help of his neighbor Mrs. Lovett, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies made them into pies]]. In this version of the story, Todd is out to get revenge on a corrupt Judge who sent him to prison on false charges, raped his wife, and [[WifeHusbandry "adopted"]] his daughter fifteen years ago. Mrs. Lovett enables Todd's bloodlust as it helps out her business, but also tries to dissuade him from this goal so that he can settle down with her.

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''Sweeney Todd'' (subtitled "The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"), is a highly-regarded musical with music and lyrics by StephenSondheim and book by Hugh Wheeler. It is based on the Christopher Bond version of [[Theatre/SweeneyTodd the legendary story of an English barber barber]] who murdered his customers and, with the help of his neighbor Mrs. Lovett, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies made them into pies]]. In this version of the story, Todd is out to get revenge on a corrupt Judge who sent him to prison on false charges, raped his wife, and [[WifeHusbandry "adopted"]] his daughter fifteen years ago. Mrs. Lovett enables Todd's bloodlust as it helps out her business, but also tries to dissuade him from this goal so that he can settle down with her.
4th Aug '17 1:26:15 AM PaulA
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* PatterSong: "The Contest".
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