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18th Jan '18 1:30:38 PM N8han11
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18th Jan '18 12:59:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Sunset Shimmer. Dear god, Sunset Shimmer. Her original BigBad role in the first film is seen as easily the worst villain in all of G4, with many fans seeing her as nothing more than a textbook AlphaBitch with [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter nothing made of her potential as Twilight's predecessor]], a PlotHole-ridden ultimate plan, and an InformedAbility potential threat to Equestria -- even as a OneWingedAngel. In her other appearances, she is hated due to her TheEveryman role, having ''two'' SuperModes [[note]]''although technically she only actually has one, with the other only being used in a dream-like sequence''[[/note]], being degraded into essentially a [[{{Expy}} carbon copy]] of Twilight, and her overall purpose to be to either resolve disasters as they arise or else ''be'' the disaster.

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** While Sunset Shimmer. Dear god, Sunset Shimmer. Her Shimmer herself has long since been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, her original BigBad role in the first film is itself was originally seen as easily the worst villain in all of G4, with many G4. Many fans seeing just saw her as nothing more than a textbook AlphaBitch with [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter nothing made of her potential as Twilight's predecessor]], a PlotHole-ridden ultimate plan, and an InformedAbility potential threat to Equestria -- even as a OneWingedAngel. In her other appearances, she is hated due to her TheEveryman role, having ''two'' SuperModes [[note]]''although technically she only actually has one, with the other only being used in a dream-like sequence''[[/note]], being degraded into essentially a [[{{Expy}} carbon copy]] of Twilight, and her overall purpose to be to either resolve disasters as they arise or else ''be'' the disaster.OneWingedAngel.



** After ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'', Juniper Montage seems to have made Sunset look decent by comparison. Common complaints include her NeverMyFault motivation and personality [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic even before being corrupted]] by her new MagicMirror, her OneWingedAngel alter ego that's even more of an AntiClimaxBoss than Demon Shimmer, said alter ego having an even tackier design than Demon Shimmer ''and'' Gaea Everfree, and her blink-and-you'll-miss-it HeelFaceTurn that just '''''reeks''''' of {{Asspull}} and KarmaHoudini. Not helping matters is the fact that she enforces TheWorfEffect on everyone not named [[MarySue Starlight Glimmer]], who ironically has [[KarmaHoudini similar]] [[DisappointedByTheMotive problems]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic in]] [[{{Asspull}} her]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot backstory]]. The {{Novelization}} seems on its way to having Juniper RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, however, by giving her noticeably more CharacterDevelopment (including a FriendlessBackground that doesn't just come out of nowhere, as well as more remorse for her actions), and is thus better received.
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** After ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'', Juniper Montage seems to have made Sunset Villain!Sunset look decent by comparison. Common complaints include her NeverMyFault motivation and personality [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic even before being corrupted]] by her new MagicMirror, her OneWingedAngel alter ego that's even more of an AntiClimaxBoss than Demon Shimmer, said alter ego having an even tackier design than Demon Shimmer ''and'' Gaea Everfree, and her blink-and-you'll-miss-it HeelFaceTurn that just '''''reeks''''' of {{Asspull}} and KarmaHoudini. Not helping matters is the fact that she enforces TheWorfEffect on everyone not named [[MarySue [[SpotlightStealingSquad Starlight Glimmer]], who ironically has [[KarmaHoudini similar]] [[DisappointedByTheMotive problems]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic in]] [[{{Asspull}} her]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot backstory]].herself a major BaseBreakingCharacter. The {{Novelization}} seems on its way to having Juniper RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, however, by giving her noticeably more CharacterDevelopment (including a FriendlessBackground that doesn't just come out of nowhere, as well as more remorse for her actions), and is thus better received.
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18th Jan '18 12:52:41 PM MadRedX12
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** While Sunset Shimmer herself has long since been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, her original BigBad role itself was originally seen as easily the worst villain in all of G4. Many fans just saw her as a textbook AlphaBitch with [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter nothing made of her potential as Twilight's predecessor]], a PlotHole-ridden ultimate plan, and an InformedAbility potential threat to Equestria -- even as a OneWingedAngel.

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** While Sunset Shimmer herself has long since been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, her Shimmer. Dear god, Sunset Shimmer. Her original BigBad role itself was originally in the first film is seen as easily the worst villain in all of G4. Many G4, with many fans just saw seeing her as nothing more than a textbook AlphaBitch with [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter nothing made of her potential as Twilight's predecessor]], a PlotHole-ridden ultimate plan, and an InformedAbility potential threat to Equestria -- even as a OneWingedAngel.OneWingedAngel. In her other appearances, she is hated due to her TheEveryman role, having ''two'' SuperModes [[note]]''although technically she only actually has one, with the other only being used in a dream-like sequence''[[/note]], being degraded into essentially a [[{{Expy}} carbon copy]] of Twilight, and her overall purpose to be to either resolve disasters as they arise or else ''be'' the disaster.



** After ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'', Juniper Montage seems to have made Villain!Sunset look decent by comparison. Common complaints include her NeverMyFault motivation and personality [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic even before being corrupted]] by her new MagicMirror, her OneWingedAngel alter ego that's even more of an AntiClimaxBoss than Demon Shimmer, said alter ego having an even tackier design than Demon Shimmer ''and'' Gaea Everfree, and her blink-and-you'll-miss-it HeelFaceTurn that just '''''reeks''''' of {{Asspull}} and KarmaHoudini. Not helping matters is the fact that she enforces TheWorfEffect on everyone not named [[SpotlightStealingSquad Starlight Glimmer]], herself a major BaseBreakingCharacter. The {{Novelization}} seems on its way to having Juniper RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, however, by giving her noticeably more CharacterDevelopment (including a FriendlessBackground that doesn't just come out of nowhere, as well as more remorse for her actions), and is thus better received.

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** After ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'', Juniper Montage seems to have made Villain!Sunset Sunset look decent by comparison. Common complaints include her NeverMyFault motivation and personality [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic even before being corrupted]] by her new MagicMirror, her OneWingedAngel alter ego that's even more of an AntiClimaxBoss than Demon Shimmer, said alter ego having an even tackier design than Demon Shimmer ''and'' Gaea Everfree, and her blink-and-you'll-miss-it HeelFaceTurn that just '''''reeks''''' of {{Asspull}} and KarmaHoudini. Not helping matters is the fact that she enforces TheWorfEffect on everyone not named [[SpotlightStealingSquad [[MarySue Starlight Glimmer]], herself a major BaseBreakingCharacter.who ironically has [[KarmaHoudini similar]] [[DisappointedByTheMotive problems]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic in]] [[{{Asspull}} her]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot backstory]]. The {{Novelization}} seems on its way to having Juniper RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, however, by giving her noticeably more CharacterDevelopment (including a FriendlessBackground that doesn't just come out of nowhere, as well as more remorse for her actions), and is thus better received.
16th Jan '18 9:01:10 AM fruitstripegum
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* Babu, from the cartoon version of ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie''. A man-boy of the first order, his magic ALWAYS causes disaster and in one particularly cringe-worthy episode, he runs away after getting chewed out by the other characters for messing things up. This isn't some sulk on a park bench, he literally grabs a teddy bear, raids the fridge and scampers off somewhere until the other characters apologize.


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* Babu, from ''WesternAnimation/{{Jeannie}}''. A man-boy of the first order, his magic ALWAYS causes disaster and in one particularly cringe-worthy episode, he runs away after getting chewed out by the other characters for messing things up. This isn't some sulk on a park bench, he literally grabs a teddy bear, raids the fridge and scampers off somewhere until the other characters apologize.
9th Jan '18 9:26:26 PM Jediuser
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** It's so bad that plenty of people actually cheered when [[spoiler:Beth and Jerry were about to be divorced (and were disappointed when they got back together)]].

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** It's so bad that plenty of people actually cheered when [[spoiler:Beth and Jerry were about to be divorced (and were disappointed when they got back together)]].together). Although, whether being apart ultimately gave them some much needed CharacterDevelopment or only made their individual flaws stand out all the more is a subject for debate among fans]].
4th Jan '18 8:09:41 PM Troperr2016
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* Quagmire reached these levels after his cruel ReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian. The writers have attempted to correct Brian's ways, while Quagmire kept getting ''worse''. In fact, some fans have pointed out that Quagmire did some of the same things Brian did, which made a huge chunk of Quagmire's rant at Brian sound hypocritical. It came to the point where Quagmire just ''ran over'' Brian after the loves of their lives dumped them for acting childish. Aside from his petty hatred of Brian, ever since Season 9 or so he's also been reduced to a selfish, non-empathetic, annoying sex maniac.

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* Quagmire reached these levels after his cruel vicious ReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian. The writers have attempted to correct Brian's ways, while Quagmire kept getting ''worse''. In fact, some fans have pointed out that Quagmire did some of the same things Brian did, which made a huge chunk of Quagmire's rant at Brian sound hypocritical. It came to the point where Quagmire just ''ran over'' Brian after the loves of their lives dumped them for acting childish. Aside from his petty hatred of Brian, ever since Season 9 or so he's also been reduced to a selfish, non-empathetic, annoying sex maniac.



* For Meg fans, [[KafkaComedy anyone who is a constant bully to Meg]]. The worst being Connie D'Amico, whose schoolyard bullying is too harsh to be funny.
1st Jan '18 9:52:31 PM Troperr2016
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** Flip is easily the most despised character on the show due to his greedy and [[MoralEventHorizon horrible behaviour]] in "Snow Way Out" [[spoiler:when he not only abandons the kids when they're snowed in the Burping Burger, but purposely backs his truck into the restaurant so they'd be trapped in there, all for the petty reason of Lana not giving him her winning ticket.]]
1st Jan '18 3:10:42 PM N8han11
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** Flip is easily the most despised character on the show due to his greedy behaviour and [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon horrible behaviour]] in "Snow Way Out" when he not only abandons the kids when they're snowed in the Burping Burger, but purposely backs his truck into the restaurant so they'd be trapped in there, all for the petty reason of Lana not giving him her winning ticket.]]

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** Flip is easily the most despised character on the show due to his greedy behaviour and [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon [[MoralEventHorizon horrible behaviour]] in "Snow Way Out" when [[spoiler:when he not only abandons the kids when they're snowed in the Burping Burger, but purposely backs his truck into the restaurant so they'd be trapped in there, all for the petty reason of Lana not giving him her winning ticket.]]
1st Jan '18 3:09:57 PM N8han11
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** Lynn is still considered be the least popular of Loud sisters due to her shallow JerkJock personality. Not only does she have the least amount of ADayInTheLimelight episodes, but whenever she does take the central spot, it's pretty much always in a negative way. She's a sore loser who won't hesitate to call her own siblings bad luck, goes ballistics over losing a simple board game, has ego-problems, and frequently roughhouses with Lincoln to the point that she comes across as a bully.
** With all that stated, however, Lynn at least has some fans - but then thereís Flip. Flip is easily the most despised character on the show due to his greedy behaviour and [[spoiler:Moral Event Horizon in "Snow Way Out" when he not only abandons the kids when snowed in the Burping Burger, but purposely backs his truck into the restaurant so they'd be trapped in there, all for the petty reason of Lana not giving him her winning ticket.]]

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** Lynn is still considered be the least popular of the Loud sisters due to her shallow JerkJock personality. Not only does she have the least amount of ADayInTheLimelight episodes, but whenever she does take the central spot, it's pretty much always in a negative way. She's a sore loser who won't hesitate to call her own siblings bad luck, goes ballistics over losing a simple board game, has ego-problems, and frequently roughhouses with Lincoln to the point that she comes across as a bully.
** With all that stated, however, Lynn at least has some fans - but then thereís Flip. Flip is easily the most despised character on the show due to his greedy behaviour and [[spoiler:Moral Event Horizon [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon horrible behaviour]] in "Snow Way Out" when he not only abandons the kids when they're snowed in the Burping Burger, but purposely backs his truck into the restaurant so they'd be trapped in there, all for the petty reason of Lana not giving him her winning ticket.]]
1st Jan '18 3:02:00 PM ThePantherMan
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