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31st Mar '18 4:28:01 PM mouschilight
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24th Mar '18 9:00:31 PM Pichu-kun
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* Apple White of ''Franchise/EverAfterHigh'', she is disliked by the fandom for being self absorbed. Being the daughter of Snow White she is destined for a happy ending, but she believes that Raven Queen should be her evil queen, and tries to convince her to take her mothers role, which will end in misery for Raven. Unsurprisingly dolls of her supposedly sell quite poorly (the only reason so many are made is because she's technically a main character).

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* Apple White of ''Franchise/EverAfterHigh'', she ''Toys/EverAfterHigh''. She is disliked by the fandom for being self absorbed. Being the daughter of Snow White she is destined for a happy ending, but she believes that Raven Queen should be her evil queen, and tries to convince her to take her mothers role, which will end in misery for Raven. Unsurprisingly dolls of her supposedly sell quite poorly (the only reason so many are made is because she's technically a main character).



* Kennedy from ''Franchise/{{Myscene}}'' gets a lot of negative reception from fans for being made as an obvious replacement for Barbie. The fact that both characters were paired up with River as well as sharing similar personality traits only adds fuel to the fire.

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* Kennedy from ''Franchise/{{Myscene}}'' ''Toys/{{My Scene}}'' gets a lot of negative reception from fans for being made as an obvious replacement for Barbie. The fact that both characters were paired up with River as well as sharing similar personality traits only adds fuel to the fire.
24th Mar '18 8:38:44 PM nombretomado
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* Person Man in TheyMightBeGiants' song "Particle Man" is clearly intended to be the scrappy of the comic book the song is about.

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* Person Man in TheyMightBeGiants' Music/TheyMightBeGiants' song "Particle Man" is clearly intended to be the scrappy of the comic book the song is about.
2nd Mar '18 11:19:46 PM dmcreif
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* Digger, the mascot for NASCAR on Fox coverage from 2008 to 2012. He was greatly criticized for the ways in which he was used. Though it was at one time commonplace for networks to create mascots for sports coverage to incorporate an educational and entertaining element into their coverage, which was the case with Peter Puck, Digger was created purely to add entertainment to the NASCAR on Fox broadcast and reach out to a younger audience. Some NASCAR fans accused Fox of dumbing down and fluffing its coverage in order to gain revenue from Digger merchandise sales. Despite continuous outrage from the NASCAR fan community, as well as talk from the NASCAR community that the Fan Council was not pleased with the situation, Fox did not announce any plans to drop the usage of the characters, and even had posted pictures of holiday-themed versions of the Digger die-cast in 2009 and 2010. In response to the comments, in 2010, the Digger cartoon was not shown during pre-race shows and Digger appeared less often at the bottom of the screen. Throughout the 2011 season as well as the 2012 Budweiser Shootout and Daytona 500, Digger appeared very sparingly, usually only during commercial bumpers. Starting with the 2012 Subway Fresh Fit 500 all appearances and references to Digger were removed from the broadcast completely. However, nods to it occasionally came up (for example, at the Talladega race in 2014, when a track-level camera had a car drive over it, Darrell Waltrip commented that he hoped that nothing had happened to Digger, to which Mike Joy responded, "Digger's retired").
19th Feb '18 3:12:20 PM SenorCornholio
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* While most of the original characters from ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic'' are detested, Rhymey is the least liked out of all of them, mostly because his constant [[PainfulRhyme bad rhyming]], as well as it being [[FlatCharacter his one character trait]]. It doesn't help that he ends up being paired with [[TheCutie Fluttershy]].

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* While most of the original characters from ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic'' are detested, Rhymey is the least liked out of all of them, mostly because his constant [[PainfulRhyme bad rhyming]], as well as it being [[FlatCharacter his one character trait]]. There's a reason why a common CatchPhrase among riffers is [[MemeticMutation "SHUT THE F*CK UP RHYMEY"]]. It doesn't help that he ends up being paired with [[TheCutie Fluttershy]].
15th Feb '18 7:25:51 PM Vir
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** Microsoft used Clippy recently as the main character in the tutorial game ''Ribbon Hero 2'', when Microsoft fired him for being too annoying and his mother kicked him out of the house to get a job. At the end he gets abducted by aliens and taken to a race of paperclip people who welcome him as a chosen hero to 'teach them how to write letters'.

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** Microsoft used Clippy recently as the main character in the tutorial game ''Ribbon Hero 2'', when Microsoft fired him for being too annoying and his mother kicked him out of the house to get a job. At the end end, he gets abducted by aliens and taken to a race of paperclip people who welcome him as a chosen hero to 'teach them how to write letters'.



** Kender are intended to be Dragonlance's PluckyComicRelief, but instead have turned into one of ''the'' most hated races out there. Mostly it's because their racial personality traits ([[CuriousAsAMonkey childlike innocence and curiosity]], [[FearlessFool fearlessness]], [[KleptomaniacHero chronic kleptomania]], [[NeverMyFault denying having stole anything when confronted about it]]) are just begging to be played as ChaoticStupid, to the point where it would take a very creative player to play a Kender character who ''wasn't'' ChaoticStupid.

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** Kender are intended to be Dragonlance's PluckyComicRelief, but instead have turned into one of ''the'' most hated races out there. Mostly it's because their racial personality traits ([[CuriousAsAMonkey childlike innocence and curiosity]], [[FearlessFool fearlessness]], [[KleptomaniacHero chronic kleptomania]], [[NeverMyFault denying having stole stolen anything when confronted about it]]) are just begging to be played as ChaoticStupid, to the point where it would take a very creative player to play a Kender character who ''wasn't'' ChaoticStupid.
3rd Feb '18 2:13:00 PM nombretomado
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* Fans of ''Franchise/MonsterHigh'' ''despise'' Hoo-Dude for his annoying personality (basically a male PluckyComicRelief version of Frankie Stein without any of her charm or likability), irritating voice, and stupid, bizarre character concept (even for a franchise that ''thrives'' on them). The fact that ''Frights Camera Action!'' gave him a ''very'' forced prominent role (mostly consisting of him doing stupid [[Franchise/StarWars Jar Jar]]-esque things and shouting the obvious) did not help and only deepened the hate. It's even believed that his first official doll was bundled with a limited edition of EnsembleDarkhorse Scarah because nobody would want to buy him on his own.

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* Fans of ''Franchise/MonsterHigh'' ''Toys/MonsterHigh'' ''despise'' Hoo-Dude for his annoying personality (basically a male PluckyComicRelief version of Frankie Stein without any of her charm or likability), irritating voice, and stupid, bizarre character concept (even for a franchise that ''thrives'' on them). The fact that ''Frights Camera Action!'' gave him a ''very'' forced prominent role (mostly consisting of him doing stupid [[Franchise/StarWars Jar Jar]]-esque things and shouting the obvious) did not help and only deepened the hate. It's even believed that his first official doll was bundled with a limited edition of EnsembleDarkhorse Scarah because nobody would want to buy him on his own.
5th Jan '18 1:49:19 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* The kids from ''Family Circus''. They are the reason the strip has a PeripheryHatedom. ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' writer Stephan Pastis often uses his strip to point out the fact that its a relic from the early sixties and doesn't really endear the comics section to any reader under the age of fifty.



* In the ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' fandom, there is a fairly vocal {{hatedom}} for [[CuteKitten Nermal]] since all he ever does is annoy the crap out of Garfield. The fact that he is also [[ViewerGenderConfusion drawn with long eyelashes]] might also have something to do with it.
* ''ComicStrip/{{Luann}}'' features Elwood, a short, unappealing midget of a young man who appears to be wealthy (but bought a cubic zirconia ring for a girl), but comes across as selfish, stalker-ish and rude. Interjecting himself into the various LoveTriangle storylines has made him very unpopular, as well as his having few good qualities. It remains to be seen if this was intentional or not, but Greg Evans ''has'' essentially not used him in months, so maybe he's aware of it.



* Elmo of ''Series/SesameStreet''. A lot of adults who grew up with ''Sesame Street'' dislike the fact that Elmo has [[EnsembleDarkHorse gotten so popular]] that [[CreatorsPet the last fifteen minutes of every show is devoted to him]] (at the old JumpTheShark website, reviewers almost unanimously agreed that his introduction caused the show to JumpTheShark). His high-pitched voice and annoying laughter doesn't help him that much either.



** And then of course there's Trigger, [[ReplacementScrappy but that's another matter entirely]].



* In computer programming, the goto command is one of the most frowned-upon commands a language can have. It makes programs prone to become "Spaghetti code" (source code with a tangled control structure). Java, for example, include goto as a reserved word (this is, its usage is forbidden as a variable name in the language), despite not even being implemented in the language.



* [[HandsomeLech Keenan Caine]] of ''TabletopGame/BlissStage'' is a JerkAss. His KickTheDog moment in the continuing examples in the rules and being a [[TheCasanova Carefree Hedonist]] in game terms probably doesn't help much.



** Gully Dwarves catch a fair amount of flak, too, and have even been accused of being created to make fun of the mentally impaired, as they're an entire race of what can basically be described as dirty, smelly, ugly, mentally retarded creatures that are supposed to be PluckyComicRelief.
** The Tinker Gnomes, with their racial hat of BunglingInventor, fixation on RubeGoldbergMachine type inventions, annoyingly literal minded nature, rapid-fire speech and super-long, complicated names are yet another PluckyComicRelief race that instead many people strongly detest. The facts that they end up prizing failure over success (to the point a device that works on the first try is a horrifying thought) and that their mere existence ''enforces'' MedievalStasis because it's convinced everyone through bad examples that technology is inherently terrible don't help in the least.
*** Actually gets a fandom nod in ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'', where many people regard them as this InUniverse... especially gnomes from ''other'' settings, who have been known to form hunting parties to destroy Minoi Techjammers (or "Junkjammers" as some might call them) in an effort to keep them all trapped on their own worlds away from anyone else.
* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' fandom, there are large sections who view the Solar Exalted in general as this, for anything from their significant power (they're supposed to be the mightiest of the Exalted), their perceived lack of interesting features (their powers are more human-based than the other Exalted, and part of the jump-off point is based around them being uninvolved in the world's history for more than a thousand years), their setting centrality, or ideas of them being entitled (the Solars having been tyrannical rulers in the distant past and some portrayed as expecting such authority to be handed to them by right).
** The Green Sun Princes are also subjected to some of it by people who think their introduction throws off too much of the setting, that they're allowed to make a DealWithTheDevil and encouraged to not suffer any consequences for it, and the perception of their powers being expansive enough to "make all other Exalted redundant".
** In terms of individual characters, the Scarlet Empress gets the most of this, often viewed as somebody who is given too many victories for too little effort, and who makes other characters look stupid for having failed to get rid of or otherwise deal with her (alternatively, there are those who view her as portrayed as having displayed too many incompetencies and having too many failures for her extended centrality to make sense).

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** Gully Dwarves catch a fair amount of flak, too, and have even been accused of being created to make fun of the mentally impaired, as they're an entire race of what can basically be described as dirty, smelly, ugly, mentally retarded creatures that are supposed to be PluckyComicRelief.
** The Tinker Gnomes, with their racial hat of BunglingInventor, fixation on RubeGoldbergMachine type inventions, annoyingly literal minded nature, rapid-fire speech and super-long, complicated names are yet another PluckyComicRelief race that instead many people strongly detest. The facts that they end up prizing failure over success (to the point a device that works on the first try is a horrifying thought) and that their mere existence ''enforces'' MedievalStasis because it's convinced everyone through bad examples that technology is inherently terrible don't help in the least.
*** Actually gets a fandom nod in ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'', where many people regard them as this InUniverse... especially gnomes from ''other'' settings, who have been known to form hunting parties to destroy Minoi Techjammers (or "Junkjammers" as some might call them) in an effort to keep them all trapped on their own worlds away from anyone else.
* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' fandom, there are large sections who view the Solar Exalted in general as this, for anything from their significant power (they're supposed to be the mightiest of the Exalted), their perceived lack of interesting features (their powers are more human-based than the other Exalted, and part of the jump-off point is based around them being uninvolved in the world's history for more than a thousand years), their setting centrality, or ideas of them being entitled (the Solars having been tyrannical rulers in the distant past and some portrayed as expecting such authority to be handed to them by right).
** The Green Sun Princes are also subjected to some of it by people who think their introduction throws off too much of the setting, that they're allowed to make a DealWithTheDevil and encouraged to not suffer any consequences for it, and the perception of their powers being expansive enough to "make all other Exalted redundant".
** In terms of individual characters,
the Scarlet Empress gets the most of this, is often viewed as somebody who is given too many victories for too little effort, and who makes other characters look stupid for having failed to get rid of or otherwise deal with her (alternatively, there are those who view her as portrayed as having displayed too many incompetencies and having too many failures for her extended centrality to make sense).



* In ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'', the Xaositects official sourcebook descriptions and outline not only give them carte blanche to be played as ChaoticStupid, but this is actually described as more or less the intended goal. Slaad have much the same mentality, but aren't so hated, since they are strictly monsters and not playable characters.
* For ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' players, other than Strahd and Azalin Rex, all the other Darklords/Domains have detractors and defenders, but Death and the Necropolis is almost universally despised. For those who do not know the setting: picture a city in the middle of a populated Kingdom. Now everyone in this city is undead - sounds like a guilt-free monster bashing fest, right? Wrong. This city is surrounded by The Shroud - which immediately kills everyone who crosses it, and animates them into undead, no exceptions, no saves (sure there is a plant that prevents this, but it's a hard-to-find supplement). The Ruler Death also fails to leave a lasting impression. For most [=DMs=], they found the obvious danger to [=PCs=] and the setting's aversion of DeathIsCheap trope renders Necropolis nigh-unplayable without some serious railroading, and often found it easier just to excise it.



** The Ultramarines as a whole. While they still have their fans, the majority of players can't stand them. They were alright when they were kept more in the background, but then Games Workshop fell in love with them and [[CreatorsPet started promoting them out the wazoo]]. It doesn't help that one of the Ultramarines codexes was turned into a generalist Space Marines codex at the last minute, ''after'' the entire book had been written from the perspective of an Ultramarines propaganda manager.
*** Of the Ultramarines, the most disliked seems to be the Second Company Captain, Cato Sicarus. In the aforementioned codex, he had no characterization whatsoever outside of being [[MaryTzu The Best Captain Evarrr,]] with him being described defeating technologically-equal armies that outnumbered his own a hundred (or even a thousand) to one. Fanon [[RonTheDeathEater turned him into]] a conceited, smug glory-hound with a likely-fabricated list of victories. He's so disliked that, while Games Workshop has made a deliberate effort to [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Rescue]] characters like Marneus Calger and Roboute Guilliman, when Sicarus started making proper appearances, [[TakeThatScrappy they bordered on]] AscendedFanon.
** The Space Marines as a whole, more like. The Blood Angels get hate for inevitable ''Twilight'' connections, as well a codex with [[{{Narm}} weird rules and hilarious background]], the Dark Angels are bemoaned for being primarily [[{{Wangst}} motivated]] by their [[MyGreatestFailure previous split in ranks]], along with their somewhat [[{{Jerkass}} abrasive attitudes]], and even the [[EnsembleDarkHorse fan favorite Space Wolves]] have become a TierInducedScrappy army due to being extremely good competitively.
** The [[HeroAntagonist Tau]] often get this treatment. Half of the hate comes from them not fitting the tone of the game, due to being much LighterAndSofter even than the traditionally [[VillainProtagonist "good"]] [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Imperium]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Eldar]]. The rest is based upon EpilepticTrees by the fandom, often painting them as [[RonTheDeathEater worse than the Imperium.]]
** For a lot of people Matt Ward has become a scrappy fluff writer due in large part to writing the background for the above mentioned Ultramarines and for the 5th Edition Blood Angels Codex. This has been taken to truly staggering levels with the release of the new Grey Knights codex; quite a few players are furious at Ward's new fluff, which among other things has one of the Grey Knights become the Grand Master of the chapter at the exact same time he's stranded in the Warp for several centuries, as well as making some Knights slaughter a convent of Sisters of Battle who have managed to remain pure despite their world falling to Chaos, and following that up with using their blood to anoint weapons and armor to protect against Chaos. The exact same wargear that's already been blessed and specifically made to fight Chaos in the first place. That and [[TierInducedScrappy breaking the game in half.]] Matt does have some redeeming works, such as giving the Eldar some better lore and victories, as most of the time they usually ended getting slaughtered, and less like the TheChessmaster's they are.
*** Robbin Cruddace, another codex writer, is rapidly slipping into this as well. His lore is only SoOkayItsAverage, and the gameplay he writes is [[TierInducedScrappy poorly balanced and overall weak]], with the sole exception of a Space Marines codex in 2013. He's getting so bad, in fact, that after his second Tyranids codex fans are begging Mat Ward to come back, because at least he writes armies that stand a chance at winning.
* Samuel Haight from ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness''. His original concept (kinfolk who wanted to kill werewolves to become one himself) wasn't too bad, but then more adventures were written with him and he ended up getting powers from ''all'' the major gamelines (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Changeling) with Paradox immunity and the ability to VillainExitStageLeft. GMs were ''encouraged'' to always let him escape at the end. He was hated for being such a blatant VillainSue. Eventually, the writers caught on and he was [[TakeThatScrappy killed by a Paradox blast, and his soul was forged into an ashtray in]] [[TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion the Underworld]].
* The TableTopGame/YuGiOh TCG has several, including:
** A lot of players dislike the Elemental Hero archetype because, being the archetype of choice of [[Anime/YuGiOhGX Jaden Yuki]], they pretty much took over the game for several booster packs, they dominate the fusion mechanic, and have more support and numbers than actual types. This is by contrast with [[Anime/YuGiOh Yugi Muto]], who used monsters that were pretty much all over the place in terms of their theme, and [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds Yusei Fudo]], who does mostly rely on the Synchron and Warrior archetypes, but many of the cards involved are useful for other things besides supporting their own archetype. However, Elemental Hero builds [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap have become more popular as of recently]], in particular: The Neos Alius/Gemini Spark, Elemental Hero Absolute Zero and Masked Hero builds are potent and are seeing quite a bit of play.
** For the old-school players, Yata-Garasu was this before its ban due to the ease with which it can completely lock down the game (being hit with it once causes you to skip your next draw, and that means that if you don't have anything on-hand that can destroy it or keep it from hitting you again, whelp, enjoy slowly losing with absolutely no way to do anything about it.)
** Starter decks (not to be confused with Structure decks). Although that they may release several new cards, they are mediocre to play in competitive play.
** The Utopia Archetype. Have 4 Different "forms", unlike Utopia's predecessors, which only have a two or three, several players tend to call hatedom due to Utopia's effect and the way how the creators are giving it more time to shine.
*** Utopia itself isn't really the problem: Utopia/Hope, and its various upgrades, are perfectly fine in a vacuum, being well-balanced, decently-rounded, and good-looking. The problem is that Utopia happens to be the main card of Yuma Tsukumo, the main character of ''Anime/YuGiOhZexal'', and not only is it the main card of a character who is already a BaseBreakingCharacter on the best of days, but he uses it ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad to the exclusion of all others.]]'' Despite the premise of the series being that [[GottaCatchEmAll Yuma takes the ace cards of his opponents]], and therefore is carting around dozens of super-strong Numbers at all times, and despite the fact that Yuma's deck contains Gagagas that could easily bring out anything he wants, he ''always'' goes into Utopia within the first few turns, and ''always'' uses it to deliver the finisher. You can pretty much count the number of times he summons a non-Utopia Number on one hand, making what should be one of the most diverse decks in the series [[ThemeDeck painfully predictable.]] What, you liked Big Eye or Lucky Straight or Volcasaurus or the OOParts or Heart-earth? Well, too bad; Yuma has them now and they're never showing up again because they're not Utopia. Other protagonists had ace cards, but none of them abused them the way Yuma did with Utopia.
** The Madolche Archetype, mainly for netting their main card, Maldoche Puddingcess, is Ultra rare to begin with and the it didn't help that the booster pack that Puddingcess comes from (Return of the Duelist) is infamous for it's worst rate.
** High Priestess of Prophecy. Costs over 100 USD to buy in the online market and sometimes, in hobby stores. The Booster pack it comes from? It's the same that contains Puddingcess, and good luck netting it.
** Infernities and to a lesser extent, X-Sabers. They're not hated for their strategies or monsters; but their playstyles; which is akin to watching your opponent or yourself playing a game of solitaire.
** Exodia, despite being one of the most iconic monsters in Yugioh, is loathed by many competitive players. Exodia decks come in two flavors: one which aims to draw out the entire Deck in one turn, turning the game into solitaire, and one which aims to stall and prevent the opponent from doing anything to damage them while they slowly draw out their instant win, which is about as annoying as it sounds. It's not even satisfying to win against an Exodia player, because they put up [[ZeroEffortBoss no resistance whatsoever]] when you win (due to their getting bad draws and not being able to get their chains going). And worst of all, because of Exodia's status as one of the most iconic monsters in Yugioh, it's almost certainly not going on the banlist.
** Blackwings, hoo boy... The Crimson Crisis-era Blackwings were a TierInducedScrappy for their ridiculous offensive power. And then Konami realized that they were selling and shoehorned their wielder, Crow, into the greater plot of ''5Ds,'' so that they could use him to shill even more Blackwings. What Konami failed to realize, however, is that the anime fanbase and the card game fanbase are largely separate, and the cardplayers use whatever's best at the time, not what's on the show. Upon being promoted to the main cast, Crow's Blackwings went from a small set of powerful cards to a massive archetype, and fans of the card game dropped the deck in droves. What was more, fans of the anime generally disliked Crow, and blamed the Blackwings for [[ExecutiveMeddling pointlessly shoving him into the series]] and [[InvincibleHero for being too powerful]] in a cast of mostly underdogs, making them loathed by ''both'' sectors of the fanbase. All this combined led to Duelist Pack Crow, a special all-Blackwing pack, being a complete sales failure. Konami seemingly finally took the hint, reducing Crow's role a good deal in the last arc of the series.

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** The Ultramarines as a whole. While they still have their fans, the majority of players can't stand them. They were alright when they were kept more in the background, but then Games Workshop fell in love with them and [[CreatorsPet started promoting them out the wazoo]]. It doesn't help that one of the Ultramarines codexes was turned into a generalist Space Marines codex at the last minute, ''after'' the entire book had been written from the perspective of an Ultramarines propaganda manager.
***
Of the Ultramarines, the most disliked seems to be the Second Company Captain, Cato Sicarus. In the aforementioned codex, he had no characterization whatsoever outside of being [[MaryTzu The Best Captain Evarrr,]] with him being described defeating technologically-equal armies that outnumbered his own a hundred (or even a thousand) to one. Fanon [[RonTheDeathEater turned him into]] a conceited, smug glory-hound with a likely-fabricated list of victories. He's so disliked that, while Games Workshop has made a deliberate effort to [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Rescue]] characters like Marneus Calger and Roboute Guilliman, when Sicarus started making proper appearances, [[TakeThatScrappy they bordered on]] AscendedFanon.
** The Space Marines as a whole, more like. The Blood Angels get hate for inevitable ''Twilight'' connections, as well a codex with [[{{Narm}} weird rules and hilarious background]], the Dark Angels are bemoaned for being primarily [[{{Wangst}} motivated]] by their [[MyGreatestFailure previous split in ranks]], along with their somewhat [[{{Jerkass}} abrasive attitudes]], and even the [[EnsembleDarkHorse fan favorite Space Wolves]] have become a TierInducedScrappy army due to being extremely good competitively.
** The [[HeroAntagonist Tau]] often get this treatment. Half of the hate comes from them not fitting the tone of the game, due to being much LighterAndSofter even than the traditionally [[VillainProtagonist "good"]] [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Imperium]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Eldar]]. The rest is based upon EpilepticTrees by the fandom, often painting them as [[RonTheDeathEater worse than the Imperium.]]
** For a lot of people Matt Ward has become a scrappy fluff writer due in large part to writing the background for the above mentioned Ultramarines and for the 5th Edition Blood Angels Codex. This has been taken to truly staggering levels with the release of the new Grey Knights codex; quite a few players are furious at Ward's new fluff, which among other things has one of the Grey Knights become the Grand Master of the chapter at the exact same time he's stranded in the Warp for several centuries, as well as making some Knights slaughter a convent of Sisters of Battle who have managed to remain pure despite their world falling to Chaos, and following that up with using their blood to anoint weapons and armor to protect against Chaos. The exact same wargear that's already been blessed and specifically made to fight Chaos in the first place. That and [[TierInducedScrappy breaking the game in half.]] Matt does have some redeeming works, such as giving the Eldar some better lore and victories, as most of the time they usually ended getting slaughtered, and less like the TheChessmaster's they are.
*** Robbin Cruddace, another codex writer, is rapidly slipping into this as well. His lore is only SoOkayItsAverage, and the gameplay he writes is [[TierInducedScrappy poorly balanced and overall weak]], with the sole exception of a Space Marines codex in 2013. He's getting so bad, in fact, that after his second Tyranids codex fans are begging Mat Ward to come back, because at least he writes armies that stand a chance at winning.
* Samuel Haight from ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness''. His original concept (kinfolk who wanted to kill werewolves to become one himself) wasn't too bad, but then more adventures were written with him and he ended up getting powers from ''all'' the major gamelines (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Changeling) with Paradox immunity and the ability to VillainExitStageLeft. GMs were ''encouraged'' to always let him escape at the end. He was hated for being such a blatant VillainSue. Eventually, the writers caught on and he was [[TakeThatScrappy killed by a Paradox blast, and his soul was forged into an ashtray in]] ashtray]] in [[TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion the Underworld]].
* The TableTopGame/YuGiOh TCG has several, including:
** A lot of players dislike the Elemental Hero archetype because, being the archetype of choice of [[Anime/YuGiOhGX Jaden Yuki]], they pretty much took over the game for several booster packs, they dominate the fusion mechanic, and have more support and numbers than actual types. This is by contrast with [[Anime/YuGiOh Yugi Muto]], who used monsters that were pretty much all over the place in terms of their theme, and [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds Yusei Fudo]], who does mostly rely on the Synchron and Warrior archetypes, but many of the cards involved are useful for other things besides supporting their own archetype. However, Elemental Hero builds [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap have become more popular as of recently]], in particular: The Neos Alius/Gemini Spark, Elemental Hero Absolute Zero and Masked Hero builds are potent and are seeing quite a bit of play.
** For the old-school players, Yata-Garasu was this before its ban due to the ease with which it can completely lock down the game (being hit with it once causes you to skip your next draw, and that means that if you don't have anything on-hand that can destroy it or keep it from hitting you again, whelp, enjoy slowly losing with absolutely no way to do anything about it.)
** Starter decks (not to be confused with Structure decks). Although that they may release several new cards, they are mediocre to play in competitive play.
** The Utopia Archetype. Have 4 Different "forms", unlike Utopia's predecessors, which only have a two or three, several players tend to call hatedom due to Utopia's effect and the way how the creators are giving it more time to shine.
*** Utopia itself isn't really the problem: Utopia/Hope, and its various upgrades, are perfectly fine in a vacuum, being well-balanced, decently-rounded, and good-looking. The problem is that Utopia happens to be the main card of Yuma Tsukumo, the main character of ''Anime/YuGiOhZexal'', and not only is it the main card of a character who is already a BaseBreakingCharacter on the best of days, but he uses it ''[[SpotlightStealingSquad to the exclusion of all others.]]'' Despite the premise of the series being that [[GottaCatchEmAll Yuma takes the ace cards of his opponents]], and therefore is carting around dozens of super-strong Numbers at all times, and despite the fact that Yuma's deck contains Gagagas that could easily bring out anything he wants, he ''always'' goes into Utopia within the first few turns, and ''always'' uses it to deliver the finisher. You can pretty much count the number of times he summons a non-Utopia Number on one hand, making what should be one of the most diverse decks in the series [[ThemeDeck painfully predictable.]] What, you liked Big Eye or Lucky Straight or Volcasaurus or the OOParts or Heart-earth? Well, too bad; Yuma has them now and they're never showing up again because they're not Utopia. Other protagonists had ace cards, but none of them abused them the way Yuma did with Utopia.
** The Madolche Archetype, mainly for netting their main card, Maldoche Puddingcess, is Ultra rare to begin with and the it didn't help that the booster pack that Puddingcess comes from (Return of the Duelist) is infamous for it's worst rate.
** High Priestess of Prophecy. Costs over 100 USD to buy in the online market and sometimes, in hobby stores. The Booster pack it comes from? It's the same that contains Puddingcess, and good luck netting it.
** Infernities and to a lesser extent, X-Sabers. They're not hated for their strategies or monsters; but their playstyles; which is akin to watching your opponent or yourself playing a game of solitaire.
** Exodia, despite being one of the most iconic monsters in Yugioh, is loathed by many competitive players. Exodia decks come in two flavors: one which aims to draw out the entire Deck in one turn, turning the game into solitaire, and one which aims to stall and prevent the opponent from doing anything to damage them while they slowly draw out their instant win, which is about as annoying as it sounds. It's not even satisfying to win against an Exodia player, because they put up [[ZeroEffortBoss no resistance whatsoever]] when you win (due to their getting bad draws and not being able to get their chains going). And worst of all, because of Exodia's status as one of the most iconic monsters in Yugioh, it's almost certainly not going on the banlist.
** Blackwings, hoo boy... The Crimson Crisis-era Blackwings were a TierInducedScrappy for their ridiculous offensive power. And then Konami realized that they were selling and shoehorned their wielder, Crow, into the greater plot of ''5Ds,'' so that they could use him to shill even more Blackwings. What Konami failed to realize, however, is that the anime fanbase and the card game fanbase are largely separate, and the cardplayers use whatever's best at the time, not what's on the show. Upon being promoted to the main cast, Crow's Blackwings went from a small set of powerful cards to a massive archetype, and fans of the card game dropped the deck in droves. What was more, fans of the anime generally disliked Crow, and blamed the Blackwings for [[ExecutiveMeddling pointlessly shoving him into the series]] and [[InvincibleHero for being too powerful]] in a cast of mostly underdogs, making them loathed by ''both'' sectors of the fanbase. All this combined led to Duelist Pack Crow, a special all-Blackwing pack, being a complete sales failure. Konami seemingly finally took the hint, reducing Crow's role a good deal in the last arc of the series.
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** Vezon, after he had lost his powers, and all that was left was his [[TalkativeLoon random ramblings]]. [[BrokenBase While these amused a portion of the fanbase, the rest found him incredibly annoying and useless]], leaving him as either the EnsembleDarkhorse or TheScrappy depending on your point of view. It didn't help that after having been infused with the power of dimension-traveling, he can now pop up anywhere.



** Toy-wise, the rectangular ball-joint sockets from the '08-'10 era of sets. They were probably meant to fix the problem of easily breaking joints, but they broke even more easily. The pre-bent Av-Matoran/Agori limbs that utilized these joints are especially hated because they are harder to replace, harder to use for [=MOCing=] and limit articulation.
** The Toa figures of the 2008 Mistika line, because they looked absolutely nothing like their original 2002 selves -- actually, they have just about the exact opposite features.
** Fans mostly feel negative towards launchers for replacing collectible items, but the most universally hated out of them are the squid launchers: they have only one point of attachment, are practically impossible to fire because the ammunition (rubber squids) have to be stretched and released by hand, often breaking, getting stuck in the launcher or only managing to fly a few inches. The squids actually have to be attached to the figures carrying the launcher, sticking out of them unsightly.
** Ehlek, Hahli and the incredibly hard to find and expensive special edition Lesovikk sets from 2007. Why? Due to LEGO screwing up their plastic, all of their lime-colored pieces are prone to breaking, which they do even if you don't touch them. Otherwise, they would be perfectly good sets.



* Apple White of ''Franchise/EverAfterHigh'', she is disliked by the fandom for being a self absorbed MarySue. Being the daughter of Snow White she is destined for a happy ending, but she believes that Raven Queen should be her evil queen, and tries to convince her to take her mothers role, which will end in misery for Raven. Unsurprisingly dolls of her supposedly sell quite poorly (the only reason so many are made is because she's technically a main character).

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* Apple White of ''Franchise/EverAfterHigh'', she is disliked by the fandom for being a self absorbed MarySue.absorbed. Being the daughter of Snow White she is destined for a happy ending, but she believes that Raven Queen should be her evil queen, and tries to convince her to take her mothers role, which will end in misery for Raven. Unsurprisingly dolls of her supposedly sell quite poorly (the only reason so many are made is because she's technically a main character).



* Franchise/{{LEGO}} has had many failed lines that fans would rather forget: ''Series/{{Galidor}}'', ''Toys/RoboRiders'', ''Toys/LEGOTimeCruisers'' and ''Jack Stone'' come to mind, along with a plethora of disliked sub-series with otherwise popular lines, such as the ''Insectoids'' from ''Toys/LEGOSpace'', and a lot of others from the company's DorkAge from about 1997 to early 2000s (for their oversized, "juniorized" pieces and lazy builds).



* ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' has the Action Masters, the last wave of G1 toys to come out in the US. The sheer AudienceAlienatingPremise of "Transformers that don't transform" was often rumored to have killed the brand, and though that almost certainly wasn't the only reason (the line had been going for eight years and was very much on its last legs), they can't have helped matters. Putting aside the fact of Transformers that don't transform, they generally weren't very good action figures on their own merits; their much-vaunted poseability consisted of seven points of articulation, Devastator was no bigger than Bumblebee, they came with rather stupid accessories (why would Optimus Prime, of all people, need a truck?), and their rubber-band hips meant that few Action Masters still have both legs. Fan opinion has softened since then, but even the biggest proponents find that it was a colossal misfire to replace the entire line with Action Masters instead of a subline like the modern Robot Replicas or Revoltechs. Note that this doesn't apply to the characters introduced as Action Masters, which are either forgotten nonentities or {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s.
** The vast majority of the fanbase seems to loathe Bumblebee for his SpotlightStealingSquad tendencies in the toyline. It's more likely these days for a line to have at least two Bumblebees than to have any kind of Megatron, and they're often shipped as the majority of a case assortment. At first this was acceptable because he was [[KidAppealCharacter popular enough among the kids]] that 'Bee toys vanished from shelves quickly, but sometime around 2010, Bumblebees became so saturated that every kid who wanted one owned one, leaving countless Bumblebees sitting on shelves and leaving no space for later waves that might carry more interesting figures. Of the bunch, the movieverse Bumblebee gets the most hate. He's the mascot of the base-breaking films, he's a pretty FlatCharacter, he receives nearly as many toys as the venerable G1 Optimus, and most of those toys just 'Bee with a slightly different pattern of yellow and black paint. Worst of all, he also pretty much forever locked in Bumblebee's design as "yellow and black muscle car" and ensured that Bumblebee toys from ''other lines'' now have to look the same as the dozens of Movie 'Bee toys already out there. Even the Masterpiece release of G1 Bumblebee got some scoffs.
** Most of the ''TF'' toys aimed at small children, such as 1-step changers, oversized non-transformable "action" figures and other simplified toys designed around a specific gimmick. While the quality of the toys and their success with the target audience is up to debate, what makes them Scrappies is that beginning from around 2010, these made up the bulk of available ''TF'' products in several countries, entirely pushing out well regarded, fan-favorite lines such as ''Generations''. Basically no locally purchasable "genuine" ''TF'' toys for years.

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* The vast majority of the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' has the Action Masters, the last wave of G1 toys to come out in the US. The sheer AudienceAlienatingPremise of "Transformers that don't transform" was often rumored to have killed the brand, and though that almost certainly wasn't the only reason (the line had been going for eight years and was very much on its last legs), they can't have helped matters. Putting aside the fact of Transformers that don't transform, they generally weren't very good action figures on their own merits; their much-vaunted poseability consisted of seven points of articulation, Devastator was no bigger than Bumblebee, they came with rather stupid accessories (why would Optimus Prime, of all people, need a truck?), and their rubber-band hips meant that few Action Masters still have both legs. Fan opinion has softened since then, but even the biggest proponents find that it was a colossal misfire to replace the entire line with Action Masters instead of a subline like the modern Robot Replicas or Revoltechs. Note that this doesn't apply to the characters introduced as Action Masters, which are either forgotten nonentities or {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s.
** The vast majority of the
fanbase seems to loathe Bumblebee for his SpotlightStealingSquad tendencies in the toyline. It's more likely these days for a line to have at least two Bumblebees than to have any kind of Megatron, and they're often shipped as the majority of a case assortment. At first this was acceptable because he was [[KidAppealCharacter popular enough among the kids]] that 'Bee toys vanished from shelves quickly, but sometime around 2010, Bumblebees became so saturated that every kid who wanted one owned one, leaving countless Bumblebees sitting on shelves and leaving no space for later waves that might carry more interesting figures. Of the bunch, the movieverse Bumblebee gets the most hate. He's the mascot of the base-breaking films, he's a pretty FlatCharacter, he receives nearly as many toys as the venerable G1 Optimus, and most of those toys just 'Bee with a slightly different pattern of yellow and black paint. Worst of all, he also pretty much forever locked in Bumblebee's design as "yellow and black muscle car" and ensured that Bumblebee toys from ''other lines'' now have to look the same as the dozens of Movie 'Bee toys already out there. Even the Masterpiece release of G1 Bumblebee got some scoffs.
** Most of the ''TF'' toys aimed at small children, such as 1-step changers, oversized non-transformable "action" figures and other simplified toys designed around a specific gimmick. While the quality of the toys and their success with the target audience is up to debate, what makes them Scrappies is that beginning from around 2010, these made up the bulk of available ''TF'' products in several countries, entirely pushing out well regarded, fan-favorite lines such as ''Generations''. Basically no locally purchasable "genuine" ''TF'' toys for years.
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5th Jan '18 1:34:16 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* For ''MagicTheGathering'' players, there are many variants of this:
** The TierInducedScrappy colors are blue (for being too [[GameBreaker broken]]) and green (for being too weak). Red also gets some hate, because all the good red cards are at common, so many fans think you can always tell a [=n00b=] by the fact that it's turn 5 and all he's played are mountains.
** The ScrappyMechanic is countering. It just seems unfair that all your hard work will be removed. If it's a permanent, it can be removed anyway once in play...
*** Even with the prevalence of removal spells, countering is still considered far, far more of a ScrappyMechanic. For one, there are only a tiny handful of cards that can't be countered. Anything else, even [[PhysicalGod Progenitus]], whose whole schtick is that nothing short of a board-wiping nuke can touch it, can get countered, usually meaning critical or game-ending spells can be thwarted for a measly two mana. This tends to have devastating consequences in more serious play, since the havoc counterspells wreak on tempo means even a soft counter like Remand can be devastating for the mana it makes you waste. Combine this with the fact that one of the single best equipment cards in the game, Sword of Feast And Famine, means any deck that runs counterspells has a way to always have land open during enemy turns while also giving one of their creatures a sizable power boost and four bonus abilities, and you can start to see why people dread playing against decks that pack a lot of counterspells.
*** This is exactly the reason why formats exist ([[MoneyDearBoy apart from keeping up the income from the franchise]]). An old card becoming powerful way beyond intention due to new, stronger cards being printed, is not supposed to ruin the game. As it is these old cards ([[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Wrath of God]], Counterspell etc.) can only be used outside of vintage when the recent edition contained a reprint of said card. Most of these cards were made back when a powerful card cost 7 mana, was a 7/7 monster and had no effect at all.
*** In slow multiplayer formats such as EDH, playing any kind of land removal will probably get you chased out the door with torches and pitchforks.
** The Scrappy ''sets'' include ''Homelands'' (too weak), ''Fallen Empires'' (all the good cards at common, a print run being six times the core set of the time), and ''The Dark'' (too weak, and had Sorrow's Path, long considered the worst card in ''Magic''.). The ''Kamigawa'' block also got a huge hatedom.
** The Eldrazi Titans are Scrappies as well, either for being extremely powerful (In Vintage, it's possible to get them in play as soon as you have certain cards in play.) or for being too weak. [[AwesomeButImpractical (Emrakul costs 15 mana!)]]
** Nicol Bolas has a huge hatedom, mainly due to his VillainSue characterization.
** Jace Beleran has a sizable hatedom, in part because in the flavor text of cards he comes off as condescending and arrogant, in part because he is printed on many different cards (many of which are powerful, and a couple of which have been GameBreakers) over and above other blue planeswalkers who are arguably more interesting (he is the only mono-blue planeswalker to regularly get depicted in cards), and because of a perceived story bias.
* Monopoly is hated among boardgamers because of its reputation for games lasting many hours, far past the point where they stop being fun.
** Monopoly played with the official rules is ... well, it's certainly not the most fun game out there, but it's not awful either, and should end in about an hour and a half. The problem is that nearly everyone plays with one or more "house rules", most of which tend to dump money into the endgame, a time which should be all about having players go bankrupt and be eliminated.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'', the Xaositects earn flak for much the same reason as the Kender above; their official sourcebook descriptions and outline not only give them carte blanche to be played as ChaoticStupid, but this is actually described as more or less the intended goal. Slaad have much the same mentality, but aren't so hated, since they are strictly monsters and not playable characters.

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* For ''MagicTheGathering'' players, there are many variants of this:
** The TierInducedScrappy colors are blue (for being too [[GameBreaker broken]]) and green (for being too weak). Red also gets some hate, because all the good red cards are at common, so many fans think you can always tell a [=n00b=] by the fact that it's turn 5 and all he's played are mountains.
** The ScrappyMechanic is countering. It just seems unfair that all your hard work will be removed. If it's a permanent, it can be removed anyway once in play...
*** Even with the prevalence of removal spells, countering is still considered far, far more of a ScrappyMechanic. For one, there are only a tiny handful of cards that can't be countered. Anything else, even [[PhysicalGod Progenitus]], whose whole schtick is that nothing short of a board-wiping nuke can touch it, can get countered, usually meaning critical or game-ending spells can be thwarted for a measly two mana. This tends to have devastating consequences in more serious play, since the havoc counterspells wreak on tempo means even a soft counter like Remand can be devastating for the mana it makes you waste. Combine this with the fact that one of the single best equipment cards in the game, Sword of Feast And Famine, means any deck that runs counterspells has a way to always have land open during enemy turns while also giving one of their creatures a sizable power boost and four bonus abilities, and you can start to see why people dread playing against decks that pack a lot of counterspells.
*** This is exactly the reason why formats exist ([[MoneyDearBoy apart from keeping up the income from the franchise]]). An old card becoming powerful way beyond intention due to new, stronger cards being printed, is not supposed to ruin the game. As it is these old cards ([[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Wrath of God]], Counterspell etc.) can only be used outside of vintage when the recent edition contained a reprint of said card. Most of these cards were made back when a powerful card cost 7 mana, was a 7/7 monster and had no effect at all.
*** In slow multiplayer formats such as EDH, playing any kind of land removal will probably get you chased out the door with torches and pitchforks.
** The Scrappy ''sets'' include ''Homelands'' (too weak), ''Fallen Empires'' (all the good cards at common, a print run being six times the core set of the time), and ''The Dark'' (too weak, and had Sorrow's Path, long considered the worst card in ''Magic''.). The ''Kamigawa'' block also got a huge hatedom.
** The Eldrazi Titans are Scrappies as well, either for being extremely powerful (In Vintage, it's possible to get them in play as soon as you have certain cards in play.) or for being too weak. [[AwesomeButImpractical (Emrakul costs 15 mana!)]]
** Nicol Bolas has a huge hatedom, mainly due to his VillainSue characterization.
**
Jace Beleran has a sizable hatedom, in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', in part because in the flavor text of cards he comes off as condescending and arrogant, in part because he is printed on many different cards (many of which are powerful, and a couple of which have been GameBreakers) over and above other blue planeswalkers who are arguably more interesting (he is the only mono-blue planeswalker to regularly get depicted in cards), and because of a perceived story bias.
* Monopoly is hated among boardgamers because of its reputation for games lasting many hours, far past the point where they stop being fun.
** Monopoly played with the official rules is ... well, it's certainly not the most fun game out there, but it's not awful either, and should end in about an hour and a half. The problem is that nearly everyone plays with one or more "house rules", most of which tend to dump money into the endgame, a time which should be all about having players go bankrupt and be eliminated.
*
In ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'', the Xaositects earn flak for much the same reason as the Kender above; their official sourcebook descriptions and outline not only give them carte blanche to be played as ChaoticStupid, but this is actually described as more or less the intended goal. Slaad have much the same mentality, but aren't so hated, since they are strictly monsters and not playable characters.
2nd Jan '18 4:12:46 PM mrincodi
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* In computer programming, the goto command is one of the most frowned-upon commands a language can have. It makes programs prone to become "Spaghetti code" (source code with a tangled control structure). Java, for example, include goto as a reserved word (this is, its usage is forbidden as a variable name in the language), despite not even being implemented in the language.
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