History TheScrappy / LiveActionTV

17th Feb '17 4:50:12 PM TheFlash
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** Kevin, "Hitting for the Cycle". How on earth did he get hired? [[spoiler: He bites the dust at the end of the episode.]]
17th Feb '17 4:46:16 PM TheFlash
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** Sara Sidle. So much so that when she finally left the show, people who disliked the character couldn't resist taking parting shots at the actress for "turning her back" on the rest of the cast.
10th Feb '17 2:38:04 PM Doogie2K
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** Chakotay has this among American Indian Trekkies for EthnicScrappy [[MagicalNativeAmerican reasons]].

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** Chakotay has this among American Indian Trekkies (as well as the actor himself!) for EthnicScrappy [[MagicalNativeAmerican reasons]].
9th Feb '17 4:04:32 PM ajitter89
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* ''Series/TheFlash'': After two entire seasons worth of being able to boast as one of the few shows to have a highly praised and near universally adored cast of characters, along came [[JerkAss Julian Albert.]] Quite immediately the characters hate of [[AllLovingHero Barry]] and his [[IdiotBall intentionally antagonizing a highly volatile meta-human]], garnered general disdain among the fan base, and whether this was [[HateSink intended by the creators or not]], the first episode, since his introduction, without his presence was well received. Eventually it seemed that they tried to give his hateful personality some reason, by revealing he [[IJustWantToBeSpecial hates Meta-Humans, even the Flash, because he wanted to be one,]] but it came off more [[FreudianExcuse whiney than sympathetic, when you learn he was the only scientist in a family of aristocrats.]] Finally after making a slight improvement to his personality, he ends up blackmailing Barry into quitting his job as a CSI, [[spoiler: by threating to reveal Caitlin as Killer Frost, the meta-human that attacked him. Despite Barry's pleas that [[BadPowersGoodPeople Caitlin has no control over her Ice based powers,]] he gives a holier than thou speech condemning Barry for wanting to protect his friend, stating no matter the circumstance, Caitlin is evil. Then he's revealed to be working for [[BigBad Savitar,]] as [[TheDragon Dr. Alchemy.]] What makes it worst, after all the crap he gave Caitlin, he's shown to be [[{{Hypocrite}} unwilling]] in his meta-human role as well.]] Yes by the next episode, [[spoiler: they once again try to pull a GoodAllAlong, by revealing he had no idea that he was Alchemy, and began befriending the group, even getting Barry his job back, the damage had already been done.]]

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* ''Series/TheFlash'': After two entire seasons worth of being able to boast as one of the few shows to have a highly praised and near universally adored cast of characters, along came [[JerkAss Julian Albert.]] Quite immediately the characters hate of [[AllLovingHero Barry]] and his [[IdiotBall intentionally antagonizing a highly volatile meta-human]], garnered general disdain among the fan base, and whether this was [[HateSink intended by the creators or not]], the first episode, since his introduction, without his presence was well received. Eventually it seemed that they tried to give his hateful personality some reason, by revealing he [[IJustWantToBeSpecial hates Meta-Humans, even the Flash, because he wanted to be one,]] but it came off more [[FreudianExcuse whiney than sympathetic, when you learn he was the only scientist in a family of aristocrats.]] Finally after making a slight improvement to his personality, he ends up blackmailing Barry into quitting his job as a CSI, [[spoiler: by threating to reveal Caitlin as Killer Frost, the meta-human that attacked him. Despite Barry's pleas that [[BadPowersGoodPeople Caitlin has no control over her Ice based powers,]] he gives a holier than thou speech condemning Barry for wanting to protect his friend, stating no matter the circumstance, Caitlin is evil. Then he's revealed to be working for [[BigBad Savitar,]] as [[TheDragon Dr. Alchemy.]] What makes it worst, after all the crap he gave Caitlin, he's shown to be [[{{Hypocrite}} unwilling]] in his meta-human role as well.]] Yes by the next episode, [[spoiler: they once again try to pull a GoodAllAlong, by revealing he had no idea that he was Alchemy, and began befriending the group, even getting Barry his job back, the damage had already been done.]] Over time the writers have continued pulling multiple attempts at [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap fixing]] this, to [[BaseBreakingCharacter varying degrees of success.]]



* ''Series/JaneTheVirgin'': Rafael, he was for the longest time a NiceGuy, come season 2 however, after overhearing Jane admit she has fallen back in love with Michael, his BitchInSheepsClothing comes forward, and he begins to [[ManipulativeBastard pull all sorts of strings]] to keep the two of them apart, [[spoiler: such as turning in Michael to his boss, for actions he did to save Rafael's son,]] to which [[WhatTheHellHero Jane is understandably upset]] but when those cease to work, and Jane makes it clear she's in love [[spoiler: and engaged]] with Michael, he becomes increasingly selfish with Mateo, [[EveryoneHasStandards which even Petra begins to call him out on.]]

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* ''Series/JaneTheVirgin'': Rafael, he was for the longest time a NiceGuy, come season 2 however, after overhearing Jane admit she has fallen back in love with Michael, his BitchInSheepsClothing comes forward, and he begins to [[ManipulativeBastard pull all sorts of strings]] to keep the two of them apart, [[spoiler: such as turning in Michael to his boss, for actions he did to save Rafael's son,]] to which [[WhatTheHellHero Jane is understandably upset]] but when those cease to work, and Jane makes it clear she's in love [[spoiler: and engaged]] with Michael, he becomes increasingly selfish with Mateo, [[EveryoneHasStandards which even Petra begins to call him out on.]] Thankfully by season 3 [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap he's back to his old self.]]
3rd Feb '17 2:49:21 AM Doug86
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** That said, a number of viewers find Scarlett's been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap in season 2 thanks to [[spoiler: her drug use and her proving to have the mama from hell.]] The presence of Zoey, her BlackBestFriend and ReplacementScrappy, can't have hurt; ditto Luke Wheeler in the latter capacity with a side order of DieForOurShip (Both Zoey got PutOnABus (due to the ChannelHop in the case of the latter). Unfortunately, Maddie started to develop BrattyTeenageDaughter tendencies in season two, and pretty much never stopped. Juliette's distaste for Layla Grant is shared by many viewers, thanks to a combination of her character, the writing and Aubrey Peeples' acting being less impressive than her singing - so not many were sorry when like Will Chase, it was decided that she would not be making the trip to {{CMT}} as part of the new showrunners' WinBackTheCrowd strategy (in spite of a shamelessly obvious planted article in ''The Hollywood Reporter'' decrying the departure of Layla/Aubrey).

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** That said, a number of viewers find Scarlett's been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap in season 2 thanks to [[spoiler: her drug use and her proving to have the mama from hell.]] The presence of Zoey, her BlackBestFriend and ReplacementScrappy, can't have hurt; ditto Luke Wheeler in the latter capacity with a side order of DieForOurShip (Both Zoey got PutOnABus (due to the ChannelHop in the case of the latter). Unfortunately, Maddie started to develop BrattyTeenageDaughter tendencies in season two, and pretty much never stopped. Juliette's distaste for Layla Grant is shared by many viewers, thanks to a combination of her character, the writing and Aubrey Peeples' acting being less impressive than her singing - so not many were sorry when like Will Chase, it was decided that she would not be making the trip to {{CMT}} Creator/{{CMT}} as part of the new showrunners' WinBackTheCrowd strategy (in spite of a shamelessly obvious planted article in ''The Hollywood Reporter'' decrying the departure of Layla/Aubrey).
26th Jan '17 8:49:31 PM KizunaTallis
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** While he isn't exactly bashed or outright despised, Mark Brendanawicz is definitely not going to top anyone's list of favorite characters. He was meant to be the StraightMan and OnlySaneMan of the main cast but the result was a character that fans found [[TheGenericGuy incredibly bland]] and a he was written off as a badly done [[Series/TheOfficeUS Jim Halpert]] {{expy}}. Not helping matters was that the show's humor style relies heavily on the wacky interactions and personalities of the cast, nor that Ann could serve the role as the only sane character while still having a fleshed out personality and good comedic chemistry with the rest of the cast, making Mark feel redundant. It's quite telling that even Mark's actor Paul Schneider [[CreatorBacklash called the character undercooked]] and even the writers weren't sure ''what'' to do with him. He was eventually PutOnABus in the second season finale and no one missed him or cared.

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** While he isn't exactly bashed or outright despised, Mark Brendanawicz is definitely not going to top anyone's list of favorite characters. He was meant to be the StraightMan and OnlySaneMan of the main cast but the result was a character that fans found [[TheGenericGuy incredibly bland]] and a consequently he was written off as a badly done [[Series/TheOfficeUS Jim Halpert]] {{expy}}. Not helping matters was that the show's humor style relies heavily on the wacky interactions and personalities of the cast, nor that Ann could serve the role as the only sane character while still having a fleshed out personality and good comedic chemistry with the rest of the cast, making Mark feel redundant. It's quite telling that even Mark's actor Paul Schneider [[CreatorBacklash called the character undercooked]] and even the writers weren't sure ''what'' to do with him. He was eventually PutOnABus in the second season finale and no finale, which became a LongBusTrip as the series went on. No one missed him or cared.
24th Jan '17 1:15:02 PM KizunaTallis
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* ''Series/JessicaJones'': Robyn. It doesn't help that she's immediately [[{{Jerkass}} hostile]] towards Jessica for a very petty reason and she's a little ''too'' [[BrotherSisterIncest protective]] with her much more reasonable brother.

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* ''Series/JessicaJones'': Robyn. It Robyn, who spends much of her scenes being a shrill, rude, and selfish {{Jerkass}} who is ''way'' [[IncestSubtext more protective of her brother than should be allowed]], as well as demonstrating very abusive tendencies towards him. Her petty and irrational hatred of Jessica doesn't help that she's immediately [[{{Jerkass}} hostile]] towards Jessica for a very petty reason matters, especially since it leads her to [[spoiler:idiotically rally the Kilgrave victims support group into attacking Jessica, allowing Kilgrave to escape and she's a little ''too'' [[BrotherSisterIncest protective]] with her much more reasonable brother.causing [[TheWoobie Hope's]] suicide]].
24th Jan '17 12:51:21 PM KizunaTallis
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* ''Series/JessicaJones'': Robyn is possibly the most despised character in the entire Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. Amazing, considering the first season's actual villain is a sadist and a rapist.

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* ''Series/JessicaJones'': Robyn is possibly the most despised character in the entire Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. Amazing, considering the first season's actual villain is Robyn. It doesn't help that she's immediately [[{{Jerkass}} hostile]] towards Jessica for a sadist very petty reason and she's a rapist.little ''too'' [[BrotherSisterIncest protective]] with her much more reasonable brother.



** While he isn't exactly bashed or outright despised, Mark Brendanawicz is definitely not going to top anyone's list of favorite characters. While the other characters always had some semblance of originality to them even when the show was going through some EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, Mark was regarded as [[TheGenericGuy an incredibly bland]] [[Series/TheOfficeUS Jim Halpert]] {{expy}} from the start. He was meant to be the StraightMan and OnlySaneMan of the main cast but the result was a character with little to no personality. Not helping matters was that the show's humor style relies heavily on the wacky interactions and personalities of the cast, nor that Ann could serve the role as the only sane character while still having a fleshed out personality and good comedic chemistry with the rest of the cast, making Mark fairly redundant. It's quite telling that even Mark's actor Paul Schneider [[CreatorBacklash called the character undercooked]] and even the writers weren't sure ''what'' to do with him. He was eventually PutOnABus in the second season finale and no one missed him or cared.

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** While he isn't exactly bashed or outright despised, Mark Brendanawicz is definitely not going to top anyone's list of favorite characters. While the other characters always had some semblance of originality to them even when the show was going through some EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, Mark was regarded as [[TheGenericGuy an incredibly bland]] [[Series/TheOfficeUS Jim Halpert]] {{expy}} from the start. He was meant to be the StraightMan and OnlySaneMan of the main cast but the result was a character with little to no personality. that fans found [[TheGenericGuy incredibly bland]] and a he was written off as a badly done [[Series/TheOfficeUS Jim Halpert]] {{expy}}. Not helping matters was that the show's humor style relies heavily on the wacky interactions and personalities of the cast, nor that Ann could serve the role as the only sane character while still having a fleshed out personality and good comedic chemistry with the rest of the cast, making Mark fairly feel redundant. It's quite telling that even Mark's actor Paul Schneider [[CreatorBacklash called the character undercooked]] and even the writers weren't sure ''what'' to do with him. He was eventually PutOnABus in the second season finale and no one missed him or cared.
21st Jan '17 9:11:01 AM Owlorange1995
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* ''Series/TheFlash'': After two entire seasons worth of being able to boast as one of the few shows to have a highly praised and near universally adored cast of characters, along came [[JerkAss Julian Dorn.]] Quite immediately the characters hate of [[AllLovingHero Barry]] and his [[IdiotBall intentionally antagonizing a highly volatile meta-human]], garnered general disdain among the fan base, and whether this was [[HateSink intended by the creators or not]], the first episode, since his introduction, without his presence was well received. Eventually it seemed that they tried to give his hateful personality some reason, by revealing he [[IJustWantToBeSpecial hates Meta-Humans, even the Flash, because he wanted to be one,]] but it came off more [[FreudianExcuse whiney than sympathetic, when you learn he was the only scientist in a family of aristocrats.]] Finally after making a slight improvement to his personality, he ends up blackmailing Barry into quitting his job as a CSI, [[spoiler: by threating to reveal Caitlin as Killer Frost, the meta-human that attacked him. Despite Barry's pleas that [[BadPowersGoodPeople Caitlin has no control over her Ice based powers,]] he gives a holier than thou speech condemning Barry for wanting to protect his friend, stating no matter the circumstance, Caitlin is evil. Then he's revealed to be working for [[BigBad Savitar,]] as [[TheDragon Dr. Alchemy.]] What makes it worst, after all the crap he gave Caitlin, he's shown to be [[{{Hypocrite}} unwilling]] in his meta-human role as well.]] Yes by the next episode, [[spoiler: they once again try to pull a GoodAllAlong, by revealing he had no idea that he was Alchemy, and began befriending the group, even getting Barry his job back, the damage had already been done.]]

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* ''Series/TheFlash'': After two entire seasons worth of being able to boast as one of the few shows to have a highly praised and near universally adored cast of characters, along came [[JerkAss Julian Dorn.Albert.]] Quite immediately the characters hate of [[AllLovingHero Barry]] and his [[IdiotBall intentionally antagonizing a highly volatile meta-human]], garnered general disdain among the fan base, and whether this was [[HateSink intended by the creators or not]], the first episode, since his introduction, without his presence was well received. Eventually it seemed that they tried to give his hateful personality some reason, by revealing he [[IJustWantToBeSpecial hates Meta-Humans, even the Flash, because he wanted to be one,]] but it came off more [[FreudianExcuse whiney than sympathetic, when you learn he was the only scientist in a family of aristocrats.]] Finally after making a slight improvement to his personality, he ends up blackmailing Barry into quitting his job as a CSI, [[spoiler: by threating to reveal Caitlin as Killer Frost, the meta-human that attacked him. Despite Barry's pleas that [[BadPowersGoodPeople Caitlin has no control over her Ice based powers,]] he gives a holier than thou speech condemning Barry for wanting to protect his friend, stating no matter the circumstance, Caitlin is evil. Then he's revealed to be working for [[BigBad Savitar,]] as [[TheDragon Dr. Alchemy.]] What makes it worst, after all the crap he gave Caitlin, he's shown to be [[{{Hypocrite}} unwilling]] in his meta-human role as well.]] Yes by the next episode, [[spoiler: they once again try to pull a GoodAllAlong, by revealing he had no idea that he was Alchemy, and began befriending the group, even getting Barry his job back, the damage had already been done.]]
19th Jan '17 4:26:32 PM dmcreif
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* Foggy Nelson on ''Series/{{Daredevil}}''. Much like his comic book counterpart, this guy is supposed to be comic relief. However, the one in the comics has some good qualities. In this version, Foggy doesn't have them, and he is ''not'' funny. Maybe it's more the bland portrayal of the character, but he just isn't funny, and comes off as a complete jerk who never contributes anything to the plot.

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* Foggy Nelson on ''Series/{{Daredevil}}''.''Series/Daredevil2015''. Much like his comic book counterpart, this guy is supposed to be comic relief. However, the one in the comics has some good qualities. In this version, Foggy doesn't have them, and he is ''not'' funny. Maybe For some, it's more the Elden Henson's bland portrayal of the character, but he just isn't funny, and sometimes comes off as a complete jerk who never contributes anything to the plot.plot (which is telling as the protagonist plotlines tend to revolve around Matt and Karen).
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