History TheScrappy / LiveActionTV

27th Apr '16 6:12:21 PM TheFlash
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** Ramsay Bolton is getting a huge hatedom, for being an InvincibleVillain, beating several of the best killers of the Iron Islands in a brawl, and destroying Stannis's army of thousands with only [[MemeticMutation 20 good men]] in one of the most ridiculously contrived pieces of writing in the series. [[Main/RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Doesn't help that he raped Sansa]], which cemented him as a scrappy. He is intended to be a hated character, but the excessive AdaptationalBadass and DiabolusExMachina (in contrast to the book version who succeeds through treachery and cunning, and even then isn't too clever) makes him this.
** Brienne of Tarth, if not already this for her {{Jerkass}} personality that is almost the ''complete'' opposite of the Brienne from the original books, has become this to many due to her killing of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Stannis]]. She abandons her oath to protect Sansa from the monstrous Boltons so she could go after Stannis for a petty grudge and an oath to protect someone who's dead. Then she kills the [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown wounded Stannis]], even though in the very next scene Ramsay killing wounded people is used to show how evil he is. She also unpleasantly tells Stannis she is killing him in the name of Renly and calls them the rightful King, even though Renly was clearly a usurper and Stannis had more right to the throne, killing Renly because they were committing treason and would have killed him, making Brienne come across as a massive {{Hypocrite}}.
** On the flip side, many came to hate Stannis by that point too due to him launching himself ''far'' over the MoralEventHorizon by [[spoiler: ''burning his own young daughter alive at the stake as a sacrifice to ensure his victory.'']] It must be mentioned, many of the fans were more upset over the writers making Stannis do this as he doesn't do this in the book and could not possibly do so in the book, as his daughter is currently many miles away. Also, as this is the writers' intention, it may not count as Scrappydom.
** Loras Tyrell is going through this as he is basically being turned into a gay stereotype, with nearly all of his scenes revolving around his sexuality, in contrast to the books where his affair with Renly is subtle and just one part of his character. Also his justification for telling Renly he should usurp the Iron Throne comes across as weak, considering he is passing Stannis over basically just for not having as good a personality as Renly, who never shows any statesman skills in contrast to the meritocratic Stannis who has been helping to run the Seven Kingdoms for years longer. It also makes Loras a {{Hypocrite}}, as he says Renly should become King as Joffrey is a monster, [[spoiler:then after Renly dies the Tyrells support Joffrey, possibly the most hateful and incompetent ruler in the series.]]
** Loras' sister Margaery Tyrell is going through this for some fans due to screentime being expanded upon so much it forces other important plot points to be pushed out. Also her sexually manipulating the much younger Tommen Baratheon (the show is vague about his age but even within their continuity he would still be underage), especially as in the book the relationship was non-sexual and the image of Margaery as a sexual manipulator comes from Tommen's mother, the clearly paranoid UnreliableNarrator Cersei, has made many fans regard Margaery as a creepy sexual predator rather then a loving feminist icon.



** Like in the books, Daenerys Targaryen has become a major BaseBreaker, for a storyline many people feel is dragged out and boring. People deride her poor political skills and the fact that in a series largely running around deconstructive realism Daenerys largely survives and succeeds due to luck, even more so then in the books. Arguably, show Dany is more disliked, despite her reputation as a feminist inspiration, many people point out she constantly needs male help, even more then her book counterpart. Emilia Clarke's slightly questionable acting and {{Narm}}y lines don't help this (though how much fault should be atrributed to the writers instead of her is unclear).
27th Apr '16 8:20:10 AM 20person
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*** [[spoiler:They and their mother Ellaria now receive even more hate for killing [[BlackGuyDiesFirst Areo]], Doran, and Trystane (all of whom were well-liked despite the problems with their storyline), and leaving themselves as the only remnant of House Martell ]].

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*** [[spoiler:They and their mother Ellaria now receive even more hate for killing [[BlackGuyDiesFirst Areo]], Doran, and Trystane (all of whom were well-liked despite the problems with their storyline), storyline)]].
**** [[spoiler:This is especially true for Ellaria, who has become [[RevengeBeforeReason blinded by revenge]]
and leaving themselves as kills Doran for not going to war to avenge his relatives. Her [[AdaptationalVillainy show personality]] is almost exactly the opposite of her book version's personality, who only remnant of House Martell ]].wanted peace for her younger daughters and not bloody revenge, as that is what she believes Oberyn would have wanted]].
27th Apr '16 8:11:44 AM 20person
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*** [[spoiler:They and Ellaria now receive even more hate for killing Doran, Areo, and Trystane (all of whom were well-liked despite the problems with their storyline), effectively leaving House Martell extinct except for them]]

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*** [[spoiler:They and their mother Ellaria now receive even more hate for killing [[BlackGuyDiesFirst Areo]], Doran, Areo, and Trystane (all of whom were well-liked despite the problems with their storyline), effectively and leaving themselves as the only remnant of House Martell extinct except for them]]]].
27th Apr '16 8:00:40 AM 20person
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** Ramsay Bolton is getting a huge hatedom, for being an InvincibleVillain, beating several of the best killers of the Iron Islands in a brawl, and destroying Stannis's army of thousands with only [[MemeticMutation 20 good men]] in one of the most ridiculously contrived pieces of writing in the series. [[Main/RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Doesn't help that he raped Sansa]], which cemented him as a scrappy. He is intended as a hateful character, but the excessive AdaptationalBadass, in contrast to the book version who succeeds through treachery and cunning, makes him this.

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*** [[spoiler:They and Ellaria now receive even more hate for killing Doran, Areo, and Trystane (all of whom were well-liked despite the problems with their storyline), effectively leaving House Martell extinct except for them]]
** Ramsay Bolton is getting a huge hatedom, for being an InvincibleVillain, beating several of the best killers of the Iron Islands in a brawl, and destroying Stannis's army of thousands with only [[MemeticMutation 20 good men]] in one of the most ridiculously contrived pieces of writing in the series. [[Main/RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Doesn't help that he raped Sansa]], which cemented him as a scrappy. He is intended as to be a hateful hated character, but the excessive AdaptationalBadass, in AdaptationalBadass and DiabolusExMachina (in contrast to the book version who succeeds through treachery and cunning, and even then isn't too clever) makes him this.



** Olly was fine in Season 4, only appearing in a few episodes and working quite well. However in Season 5 he became a rather boring character who came across as whiny and constantly complaining about the Wildlings to Jon. The rather blatant {{Foreshadowing}} around him, the camera cutting to his face whenever Jon did something significant, was ridiculed by the fans and earned him the nickname Olly Chekhov, [[spoiler:along with him being one of the mutineers who stabs Jon.]]
** Like in the books, Daenerys Targaryen has become a major BaseBreaker, for a storyline many people feel is dragged out and boring. People deride her poor political skills and the fact that in a series largely running around deconstructive realism Daenerys largely survives and succeeds due to luck, even more so then in the books. Arguably, show Dany is more disliked, despite her reputation as a feminist inspiration, many people point out she constantly needs male help, even more then her book counterpart. Emilia Clarke's slightly questionable acting and {{Narm}}y lines don't help this.

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** Olly was fine in Season 4, only appearing in a few episodes and working quite well. However in Season 5 he became a rather boring character who came across as whiny and constantly complaining about the Wildlings to Jon. The rather blatant {{Foreshadowing}} around him, the camera cutting to his face whenever Jon did something significant, was ridiculed by the fans and earned him the nickname Olly Chekhov, [[spoiler:along with him being one of the mutineers who stabs Jon.]]
Jon]].
** Like in the books, Daenerys Targaryen has become a major BaseBreaker, for a storyline many people feel is dragged out and boring. People deride her poor political skills and the fact that in a series largely running around deconstructive realism Daenerys largely survives and succeeds due to luck, even more so then in the books. Arguably, show Dany is more disliked, despite her reputation as a feminist inspiration, many people point out she constantly needs male help, even more then her book counterpart. Emilia Clarke's slightly questionable acting and {{Narm}}y lines don't help this.this (though how much fault should be atrributed to the writers instead of her is unclear).
25th Apr '16 7:54:41 PM ajitter89
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* ''Series/JaneTheVirgin'': Rafael, he was for the longest time a NiceGuy, come season 2 however, after overhearing Jane admit she has fallen back in love with Michael, his BitchInSheepsClothing comes forward, and he begins to [[ManipulativeBastard pull all sorts of strings]] to keep the two of them apart, [[spoiler: such as turning in Michael to his boss, for actions he did to save Rafael's son,]] to which [[WhatTheHellHero Jane is understandably upset]] but when those cease to work, and Jane makes it clear she's in love [[spoiler: and engaged]] with Michael, he becomes increasingly selfish with Mateo, [[EveryoneHasStandards which even Petra begins to call him out on.]]
18th Apr '16 5:11:45 AM bannermanner
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* ''Series/JessicaJones'': Robyn is possibly the most despised character in the entire Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. Amazing, considering the first season's actual villain is a sadist and a rapist.
17th Apr '16 7:29:30 PM ajitter89
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* ''Series/{{Smash}}''
** Leo Houston, Julia's whiney, snot nosed teenage son. He even kept complaining to her mother's writing partner Tom, convinces his boyfriend to help get a drug charge swept under the rug, and kept it from Julia.
** Michael Swift, he begins an affair with Julia. Sure affairs happen, except he has a loving wife and newborn son. Where Julia is trying to rebuild her marriage he simply doesn't give a damn about his wife.
** Daisy Parker, sure at first you feel sorry for her, losing her job because Derek slept with her. Then after exploiting her lawsuit to get Ana fired, she immediately goes full on Diva mode, becoming a pain in the ass to the entire cast and crew of ''Hit List''.
** All of these however can't hold a candle to [[JerkAss Jimmy]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Collins]]. A talented composer yes, but his attitude and constant whining and demands, who treats his friends like dirt. Even after the many times he gets called out, and half-assedly apologizes, it can be well assumed that he has [[AesopAmnesia conveniently forgotten the lesson]]. Many fans blame him for being the final nail in the coffin that eventually led to the shows cancellation.
16th Apr '16 10:37:52 AM nombretomado
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** Speaking of Darcy, Darcy! The fundamentalist Christian talk tended to turn people off and made people say "This isn't ''SeventhHeaven''!"; and the Christian motif made Spinner seem less Spinner and more self-righteous. Other fans saw her and Spinner as TheFundamentalist.

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** Speaking of Darcy, Darcy! The fundamentalist Christian talk tended to turn people off and made people say "This isn't ''SeventhHeaven''!"; ''Series/SeventhHeaven''!"; and the Christian motif made Spinner seem less Spinner and more self-righteous. Other fans saw her and Spinner as TheFundamentalist.
13th Apr '16 3:24:03 PM Tropetastic1995
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** Later Seasons had Felicity, who became an obvious CreatorsPet, and adopted SpotlightStealingSquad- tendencies, became the cause of an even bigger RomanticPlotTumour, TookALevelInJerkass and developed a nasty ItsAllAboutMe attitude, and received CharacterShilling on a episodic basis, all without meaningfully contributing anything other than relationship drama to the show. Quite ironic since she started the series as an EnsembleDarkhorse.She still receives support from Olicity shippers, but that group has been declining as well because of how Felicity has been written as an unlikable character since the ship became canon.
13th Apr '16 4:49:07 AM hiphiphu
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** Later Seasons had Felicity, who became an obvious CreatorsPet, and adopted SpotlightStealingSquad- tendencies, became the cause of an even bigger RomanticPlotTumour, TookALevelInJerkass and developed a nasty ItsAllAboutMe attitude, and received CharacterShilling on a episodic basis, all without meaningfully contributing anything other than relationship drama to the show. Quite ironic since she started the series as an EnsembleDarkhorse.
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