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14th Oct '17 6:51:50 AM miraculous
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** Norman Osborn after his resurrection, since, to many, he came back by being responsible for a ''massive'' DorkAge, then was revealed to have had sex with Gwen Stacy, and being responsible for ''Dark Reign'', which was basically a massive example of why the Marvel Universe is filled with idiots. Needless to say, stories involving him since his return are generally ''not'' popular, and the fact that many did not ''want'' him back means he is not very popular with Spidey fans, never mind Marvel fans in general (thanks to the aforementioned ''Dark Reign'').
7th Oct '17 2:24:22 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': Cir-El, the "daughter" of Franchise/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/LoisLane from the future where Comicbook/{{Brainiac}} 13 existed. She showed up during the time the Matrix Supergirl was phased out and was not very well liked for a number of reasons, including being a kid from the future. Thankfully for fans, she retconned herself out just in time for Kara Zor-El to return. However, if you were to look up Cir-El on tumblr, you'd be surprised to find that she has a large number of fans with emphasis put towards the less convoluted aspects of her backstory. Said fans like to view her as the daughter Superman and Lois Lane ''could'' have had, enjoying her bubbly personality, her desire to follow Superman's example, and her short-lived team with Traci 13 and Natasha Irons. While her detractors remain, this is enough to transform her into a BaseBreaker.
* ComicBook/{{Superman}} villain Doomsday gets quite a bit of heat, mostly for him being the poster child for the GenericDoomsdayVillain (it's in the name). ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' tends to hold a LoveItOrHateIt position among fans, but Doomsday is almost always described as one of its weakest aspects, for being little more than a big bony brainless brick with a fairly dumb backstory, who Superman defeats by the clever method of punching him a lot until they both die, and for taking the role of "Superman's killer" away from better-established villains. Starring in an iconic story also meant that he kept showing up well past it, despite being killed off multiple times. Worse, while fellow 90s event HeroKiller ComicBook/{{Bane}} has managed to leverage his role in an iconic story to become more interesting, all Doomsday seems to do with his fame is keep cropping up for increasingly monotonous slugfests. His tendency to lose these slugfests have also [[VillainDecay piddled away whatever threat he once had]], and made his big break look increasingly like a lucky shot. A wide chunk of the fanbase is completely sick of him, and considering that he has [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superdoom_(Earth_45) at least one]] official {{Expy}} that amounts to calling him everything wrong with modern Superman, it seems the feeling isn't unique to them. That he got to be the final villain in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' only furthered the vitriol towards him, as it made him the first ''Superman'' villain besides Zod, Zod's henchmen, or Lex to appear in a movie, rather than the dozens of better-regarded ones.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': Cir-El, the "daughter" of Franchise/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/LoisLane from the future where Comicbook/{{Brainiac}} 13 existed. She showed up during the time the Matrix Supergirl was phased out and was not very well liked for a number of reasons, including being a kid from the future. Thankfully for fans, she retconned herself out just in time for Kara Zor-El to return. However, if you were to look up Cir-El on tumblr, you'd be surprised to find that she has a large number of fans with emphasis put towards the less convoluted aspects of her backstory. Said fans like to view her as the daughter Superman and Lois Lane ''could'' have had, enjoying her bubbly personality, her desire to follow Superman's example, and her short-lived team with Traci 13 and Natasha Irons. While her detractors remain, this is enough to transform her into a BaseBreaker.\n
* ComicBook/{{Superman}} villain Doomsday gets quite a bit of heat, mostly for him being the poster child for the GenericDoomsdayVillain (it's in the name). ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' tends to hold a LoveItOrHateIt divisive position among fans, but Doomsday is almost always described as one of its weakest aspects, for being little more than a big bony brainless brick with a fairly dumb backstory, who Superman defeats by the clever method of punching him a lot until they both die, and for taking the role of "Superman's killer" away from better-established villains. Starring in an iconic story also meant that he kept showing up well past it, despite being killed off multiple times. Worse, while fellow 90s event HeroKiller ComicBook/{{Bane}} has managed to leverage his role in an iconic story to become more interesting, all Doomsday seems to do with his fame is keep cropping up for increasingly monotonous slugfests. His tendency to lose these slugfests have also [[VillainDecay piddled away whatever threat he once had]], and made his big break look increasingly like a lucky shot. A wide chunk of the fanbase is completely sick of him, and considering that he has [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superdoom_(Earth_45) at least one]] official {{Expy}} that amounts to calling him everything wrong with modern Superman, it seems the feeling isn't unique to them. That he got to be the final villain in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' only furthered the vitriol towards him, as it made him the first ''Superman'' villain besides Zod, Zod's henchmen, or Lex to appear in a movie, rather than the dozens of better-regarded ones.



** The ComicBook/ScarletWitch is a massive one. While ''Avengers'' fans have her as a BaseBreaker for killing some of their members and disbanding the team, she was eventually forgiven, and she had gone through a lot. To ''X-Men'' fans however, she single-handedly sent them into what some view as a big DorkAge and basically almost wiped out her own people. She depowered the vast majority of the mutant race, leaving only an estimated 200 mutants left in the world. The brutal depowering is actually ''shown'', with characters' powers failing in horrific ways, never mind the chaos this caused. Then, when she returns, the Avengers prevent the X-Men from making her pay for her crimes. Many perceived her treatment by the Avengers as EasilyForgiven, especially since what she did to them had been pretty much fixed, while the X-Men were still struggling to survive. ''Then'', she acts all self-righteous to Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (who, by that point had become a big EnsembleDarkHorse due to writers' attempts to get readers to dislike the guy failing miserably) concerning his actions to keep his species from going extinct, which, let us not forget, ''were directly her fault''. Hell, when Rogue confronts her about this in ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'', she actually asks, "why was it so important more mutants be born?" Um... Maybe so the race could fucking go on, dumbass. That same series also saw her become an AuthorAvatar for Rick Remender, defending an ''extremely'' negatively received speech made by Havok regarding culture and integration, which absolutely tanked her popularity. In short, when a character nearly commits genocide on a race that is central to a series, she will not be well-liked by fans of that series, even if she wasn't EasilyForgiven.

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** The ComicBook/ScarletWitch is a massive one. While ''Avengers'' fans have her as a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter for killing some of their members and disbanding the team, she was eventually forgiven, and she had gone through a lot. To ''X-Men'' fans however, she single-handedly sent them into what some view as a big DorkAge and basically almost wiped out her own people. She depowered the vast majority of the mutant race, leaving only an estimated 200 mutants left in the world. The brutal depowering is actually ''shown'', with characters' powers failing in horrific ways, never mind the chaos this caused. Then, when she returns, the Avengers prevent the X-Men from making her pay for her crimes. Many perceived her treatment by the Avengers as EasilyForgiven, especially since what she did to them had been pretty much fixed, while the X-Men were still struggling to survive. ''Then'', she acts all self-righteous to Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (who, by that point had become a big EnsembleDarkHorse due to writers' attempts to get readers to dislike the guy failing miserably) concerning his actions to keep his species from going extinct, which, let us not forget, ''were directly her fault''. Hell, when Rogue confronts her about this in ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'', she actually asks, "why was it so important more mutants be born?" Um... Maybe so the race could fucking go on, dumbass. That same series also saw her become an AuthorAvatar for Rick Remender, defending an ''extremely'' negatively received speech made by Havok regarding culture and integration, which absolutely tanked her popularity. In short, when a character nearly commits genocide on a race that is central to a series, she will not be well-liked by fans of that series, even if she wasn't EasilyForgiven.
7th Oct '17 2:20:02 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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** The ComicBook/ScarletWitch is a massive one. While ''Avengers'' fans have her as a BaseBreaker for killing some of their members and disbanding the team, she was eventually forgiven, and she had gone through a lot. To ''X-Men'' fans however, she single-handedly sent them into what some view as a big DorkAge and basically almost wiped out her own people. She literally depowered the vast majority of the mutant race, leaving only an estimated 200 mutants left in the world. The brutal depowering is actually ''shown''. Then, when she returns, the Avengers prevent the X-Men from making her pay for her crimes. Many perceived her treatment by the Avengers as EasilyForgiven, especially since what she did to them had been pretty much fixed, while the X-Men were still struggling to survive. ''Then'', she acts all self-righteous to Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (who, by that point had become a big EnsembleDarkHorse due to writers' attempts to get readers to dislike the guy failing miserably) concerning his actions to keep his species from going extinct, which, let us not forget, ''were directly her fault''. Hell, when Rogue confronts her about this in ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'', she actually asks, "why was it so important more mutants be born?" Um... Maybe so the race could fucking go on, dumbass. In short, when a character nearly commits genocide on a race that is central to a series, she will not be well-liked by fans of that series, even if she wasn't EasilyForgiven.

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** The ComicBook/ScarletWitch is a massive one. While ''Avengers'' fans have her as a BaseBreaker for killing some of their members and disbanding the team, she was eventually forgiven, and she had gone through a lot. To ''X-Men'' fans however, she single-handedly sent them into what some view as a big DorkAge and basically almost wiped out her own people. She literally depowered the vast majority of the mutant race, leaving only an estimated 200 mutants left in the world. The brutal depowering is actually ''shown''.''shown'', with characters' powers failing in horrific ways, never mind the chaos this caused. Then, when she returns, the Avengers prevent the X-Men from making her pay for her crimes. Many perceived her treatment by the Avengers as EasilyForgiven, especially since what she did to them had been pretty much fixed, while the X-Men were still struggling to survive. ''Then'', she acts all self-righteous to Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (who, by that point had become a big EnsembleDarkHorse due to writers' attempts to get readers to dislike the guy failing miserably) concerning his actions to keep his species from going extinct, which, let us not forget, ''were directly her fault''. Hell, when Rogue confronts her about this in ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'', she actually asks, "why was it so important more mutants be born?" Um... Maybe so the race could fucking go on, dumbass. That same series also saw her become an AuthorAvatar for Rick Remender, defending an ''extremely'' negatively received speech made by Havok regarding culture and integration, which absolutely tanked her popularity. In short, when a character nearly commits genocide on a race that is central to a series, she will not be well-liked by fans of that series, even if she wasn't EasilyForgiven.
6th Oct '17 8:52:04 AM Acomicfan1
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** Harper Row. Created when DC wouldn't let writers use Cassandra Cain or Steph Brown, she was liked well enough until Cass and Steph came back and she continued to steal their narrative space. Steph and Cass, best friends in the pre-New 52 Universe, now tolerate each other for Harper's sake and barely interact. It got even worse when it was revealed that Harper Row is kinda central to Cass' entire motivation. Harper is also now the 'uber Robin': the somehow scientifically predestined best choice in Gotham for Batman's sidekick. Yes, objectively, she was destined to be the best Robin. This got worse in ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', where the first two arcs gave her a surprising amount of focus while Cass was again basically there to be badass. Thankfully, ''Rebirth'' seemed to kick her out of focus again, but it might not stick.

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** Harper Row. Created when DC wouldn't let writers use Cassandra Cain or Steph Brown, she was liked well enough until Cass and Steph came back and she continued to steal their narrative space. Steph and Cass, best friends in the pre-New 52 Universe, now tolerate each other for Harper's sake and barely interact. It got even worse when it was revealed that Harper Row is kinda central to Cass' entire motivation. Harper is also now the 'uber Robin': the somehow scientifically predestined best choice in Gotham for Batman's sidekick. Yes, objectively, she was destined to be the best Robin. This got worse in ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', where the first two arcs gave her a surprising amount of focus while Cass was again basically there to be badass. Thankfully, ''Rebirth'' seemed to kick her out of focus again, but it might not stick.
10th Sep '17 12:16:33 PM MBG
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* ComicBook/{{Superman}} villain Doomsday gets quite a bit of heat, mostly for him being the poster child for the GenericDoomsdayVillain (it's in the name). ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' tends to hold a LoveItOrHateIt position among fans, but Doomsday is almost always described as one of its weakest aspects, for being little more than a big bony brainless brick with a fairly dumb backstory, who Superman defeats by the clever method of punching him a lot until they both die, and for taking the role of "Superman's killer" away from better-established villains. Starring in an iconic story also meant that he kept showing up well past it, despite being killed off multiple times. Worse, while fellow 90s event HeroKiller ComicBook/{{Bane}} has managed to leverage his role in an iconic story to become more interesting, all Doomsday seems to do with his fame is keep cropping up for increasingly monotonous slugfests. His tendency to lose these slugfests have also [[VillainDecay piddled away whatever threat he once had]], and made his big break look increasingly like a lucky shot. A wide chunk of the fanbase is completely sick of him, and considering that he has [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superdoom_(Earth_45) at least one]] official {{Expy}} that amounts to calling him everything wrong with modern Superman, it seems the feeling isn't unique to them.

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* ComicBook/{{Superman}} villain Doomsday gets quite a bit of heat, mostly for him being the poster child for the GenericDoomsdayVillain (it's in the name). ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' tends to hold a LoveItOrHateIt position among fans, but Doomsday is almost always described as one of its weakest aspects, for being little more than a big bony brainless brick with a fairly dumb backstory, who Superman defeats by the clever method of punching him a lot until they both die, and for taking the role of "Superman's killer" away from better-established villains. Starring in an iconic story also meant that he kept showing up well past it, despite being killed off multiple times. Worse, while fellow 90s event HeroKiller ComicBook/{{Bane}} has managed to leverage his role in an iconic story to become more interesting, all Doomsday seems to do with his fame is keep cropping up for increasingly monotonous slugfests. His tendency to lose these slugfests have also [[VillainDecay piddled away whatever threat he once had]], and made his big break look increasingly like a lucky shot. A wide chunk of the fanbase is completely sick of him, and considering that he has [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superdoom_(Earth_45) at least one]] official {{Expy}} that amounts to calling him everything wrong with modern Superman, it seems the feeling isn't unique to them. That he got to be the final villain in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' only furthered the vitriol towards him, as it made him the first ''Superman'' villain besides Zod, Zod's henchmen, or Lex to appear in a movie, rather than the dozens of better-regarded ones.
12th Aug '17 11:38:45 AM Doug86
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* The new design of Comicbook/{{Lobo}} has proved incredibly unpopular, on account of missing every single aspect of Lobo his fans like, and being a ridiculous "pretty-boy" look. The fact that the comic that introduces him goes on to say the Lobo fans have known for decades now is a "fake" ''really'' doesn't help. Seemingly it's been restored in the ''Comicbook/DCRebirth'' reboot, with the new "real" Lobo sealed away by the Franchise/GreenLantern corps.

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* The new design of Comicbook/{{Lobo}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}} has proved incredibly unpopular, on account of missing every single aspect of Lobo his fans like, and being a ridiculous "pretty-boy" look. The fact that the comic that introduces him goes on to say the Lobo fans have known for decades now is a "fake" ''really'' doesn't help. Seemingly it's been restored in the ''Comicbook/DCRebirth'' reboot, with the new "real" Lobo sealed away by the Franchise/GreenLantern corps.
31st Jul '17 3:22:13 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Carlie Cooper's PuritySue-like portrayal resulted in a massive backlash from fans. Originally it was more along the lines of ReplacementScrappy for MJ, but it escalated when everyone, from past girlfriends to best friends, kept telling Peter how 'right' she was for him because she's his 'intellectual equal'. It was REALLY not helped by the fact she would get mad at Peter for the stupidest things, was pushed as a Woobie because her hero cop dad supposedly died only to be revealed he wasn't a hero and wasn't dead, act like a hypocrite, amongst other problems. She's also received ire for having similar characteristics as four of Peter's past love interests: troubles with father (MJ), NerdsAreSexy and attempted Adorkable (Deb Whitman), loves Peter for him (MJ, and an invert of Black Cat), is old friends with Harry Osborn, a tsundere, and Peter's 'true love' and perfect girl (Gwen). You could make the case that the writers are trying to evoke Gwen Stacy in her character, but in the end comes off as a lot like Comicbook/LanaLang in Smallville and the equally hated film version of [[InNameOnly Mary Jane]]. In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/SpiderIsland'', she was demoted to a supporting cast member without romantic interest in Peter. However, in ''Superior Spider-Man'', the hatred for her increased tenfold, with Carlie somehow being the only one who investigated why Peter was acting massively out of character. She discovers what happened by doing what can be considered the barest minimum of detective work. Again, fans were not amused at Carlie getting such an easy win, and rejoiced when she was Goblin'd... only for it to inexplicably not work on her, and her alone. Fortunately, after that she left the Spidey books entirely.

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** Carlie Cooper's PuritySue-like portrayal resulted in a massive backlash from fans. Originally it was more along the lines of ReplacementScrappy for MJ, but it escalated when everyone, from past girlfriends to best friends, kept telling Peter how 'right' she was for him because she's his 'intellectual equal'. It was REALLY not helped by the fact she would get mad at Peter for the stupidest things, was pushed as a Woobie because her hero cop dad supposedly died only to be revealed he wasn't a hero and wasn't dead, act like a hypocrite, amongst other problems. She's also received ire for having similar characteristics as four of Peter's past love interests: troubles with father (MJ), NerdsAreSexy and attempted Adorkable (Deb Whitman), loves Peter for him (MJ, and an invert of Black Cat), is old friends with Harry Osborn, a tsundere, and Peter's 'true love' and perfect girl (Gwen). You could make the case that the writers are trying to evoke Gwen Stacy in her character, but in the end comes off as a lot like Comicbook/LanaLang in Smallville and the equally hated film version of [[InNameOnly Mary Jane]].''Smallville''. In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/SpiderIsland'', she was demoted to a supporting cast member without romantic interest in Peter. However, in ''Superior Spider-Man'', the hatred for her increased tenfold, with Carlie somehow being the only one who investigated why Peter was acting massively out of character. She discovers what happened by doing what can be considered the barest minimum of detective work. Again, fans were not amused at Carlie getting such an easy win, and rejoiced when she was Goblin'd... only for it to inexplicably not work on her, and her alone. Fortunately, after that she left the Spidey books entirely.
30th Jul '17 3:22:40 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* The new design of SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}} has proved incredibly unpopular, on account of missing every single aspect of Lobo his fans like, and being a ridiculous "pretty-boy" look. The fact that the comic that introduces him goes on to say the Lobo fans have known for decades now is a "fake" ''really'' doesn't help. Seemingly it's been restored in the ''Comicbook/DCRebirth'' reboot, with the new "real" Lobo sealed away by the Franchise/GreenLantern corps.

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* The new design of SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}} Comicbook/{{Lobo}} has proved incredibly unpopular, on account of missing every single aspect of Lobo his fans like, and being a ridiculous "pretty-boy" look. The fact that the comic that introduces him goes on to say the Lobo fans have known for decades now is a "fake" ''really'' doesn't help. Seemingly it's been restored in the ''Comicbook/DCRebirth'' reboot, with the new "real" Lobo sealed away by the Franchise/GreenLantern corps.
14th Jul '17 5:08:59 PM NightShade96
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* The new design of Comicbook/{{Lobo}} has proved incredibly unpopular, on account of missing every single aspect of Lobo his fans like, and being a ridiculous "pretty-boy" look. The fact that the comic that introduces him goes on to say the Lobo fans have known for decades now is a "fake" ''really'' doesn't help. Seemingly it's been restored in the ''Comicbook/DCRebirth'' reboot, with the new "real" Lobo sealed away by the Franchise/GreenLantern corps.

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* The new design of Comicbook/{{Lobo}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}} has proved incredibly unpopular, on account of missing every single aspect of Lobo his fans like, and being a ridiculous "pretty-boy" look. The fact that the comic that introduces him goes on to say the Lobo fans have known for decades now is a "fake" ''really'' doesn't help. Seemingly it's been restored in the ''Comicbook/DCRebirth'' reboot, with the new "real" Lobo sealed away by the Franchise/GreenLantern corps.



** Flamebird. After the first Crisis, the original Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} no longer existed and Barbara Gordon was deemed to be the original. When Marv Wolfman and George Perez decided to revamp the Titans West team for the Post-Crisis origins of the Teen Titans, Betty Kane was reintroduced as Mary Elizabeth (''"Bette"'') Kane, now with the codename Flamebird and a ValleyGirl with [[StalkerWithACrush a strong desire to get the affections and praise of Nightwing in any way]]. As Wolfman had no love for the Titans West save for Lilith and Changeling, the portrayals of the revamped versions, ESPECIALLY Bette, earned them spots high on the Titans "Scrappy" list. Flamebird wound up as a ButtMonkey-type character for years to come, even though some writers attempted to make her seem more interesting through [[InformedAbility "depths"]] in her origin (stating her physical prowess and skills that rarely seemed to be reflected). Creator/GeoffJohns started a more streamlined take on the character in the ''Beast Boy'' mini-series, and it seemed that Greg Rucka was attempting [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap to revise her into a much more competent heroine]]. The New52 pressed the ResetButton via the ''Batwoman'' series, as Bette now lost most of her established history (and previous upgrade), making her come off nearly TooStupidToLive and get mutilated by an enemy. She's later appeared to have gone back on track to a darker and more serious revamp in her costume, but time will tell if this change is successful.
** Golden Eagle was initially hated for being a shoe-horned attempt to give Hawkman a sidekick and knockoff in the Pre-Crisis era, and was hated Post-Crisis for being a slacker surfer-type guy who'd only fight if it could get him women and attention. [[AlasPoorScrappy He got a little sympathy after being killed off]], but after Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray retconned his death and revealed him to be a {{Jerkass}}-type villain with a grudge against Hawkman, fans had new reason to despise the guy (or the direction he was taken in).

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** Flamebird. After the first Crisis, the original Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} no longer existed and Barbara Gordon was deemed to be the original. When Marv Wolfman and George Perez decided to revamp the Titans West team for the Post-Crisis origins of the Teen Titans, Betty Kane was reintroduced as Mary Elizabeth (''"Bette"'') Kane, now with the codename Flamebird and a ValleyGirl with [[StalkerWithACrush a strong desire to get the affections and praise of Nightwing in any way]]. As Wolfman had no love for the Titans West save for Lilith and Changeling, the portrayals of the revamped versions, ESPECIALLY Bette, earned them spots high on the Titans "Scrappy" list. Flamebird wound up as a ButtMonkey-type character for years to come, even though some writers attempted to make her seem more interesting through [[InformedAbility "depths"]] in her origin (stating her physical prowess and skills that rarely seemed to be reflected). Creator/GeoffJohns started a more streamlined take on the character in the ''Beast Boy'' mini-series, and it seemed that Greg Rucka was attempting [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap to revise her into a much more competent heroine]]. The New52 ComicBook/New52 pressed the ResetButton via the ''Batwoman'' series, as Bette now lost most of her established history (and previous upgrade), making her come off as being nearly TooStupidToLive TooDumbToLive and get mutilated by an enemy. She's later appeared to have gone back on track to a darker and more serious revamp in her costume, but time will tell if this change is successful.
** Golden Eagle was initially hated for being a shoe-horned attempt to give Hawkman ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} a sidekick and knockoff in the Pre-Crisis era, and was hated Post-Crisis for being a slacker surfer-type guy who'd only fight if it could get him women and attention. [[AlasPoorScrappy He got a little sympathy after being killed off]], but after Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray retconned his death and revealed him to be a {{Jerkass}}-type villain with a grudge against Hawkman, fans had new reason to despise the guy (or the direction he was taken in).



* ''Comicbook/YoungJustice'': Slobo/Lil' Lobo was a polarizing figure among fans and writers. The final issue of the series saw him transformed, [[AndIMustScream turned into a living statue]], and he has not been seen or mentioned since. DC editor-in-chief Creator/DanDiDio reportedly despised the character, and claimed that he nearly ruined the original Lobo.

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* ''Comicbook/YoungJustice'': ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'': Slobo/Lil' Lobo was a polarizing figure among fans and writers. The final issue of the series saw him transformed, [[AndIMustScream turned into a living statue]], and he has not been seen or mentioned since. DC editor-in-chief Creator/DanDiDio reportedly despised the character, and claimed that he nearly ruined the original Lobo.
30th Jun '17 12:48:36 PM MBG159
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* ComicBook/{{Superman}} villain Doomsday gets quite a bit of heat, mostly for him being the poster child for the GenericDoomsdayVillain (it's in the name). ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' tends to hold a LoveItOrHateIt position among fans, but Doomsday is almost always described as one of its weakest aspects, for being little more than a big bony brainless brick with a fairly dumb backstory, who Superman defeats by the clever method of punching him a lot until they both die, and for taking the role of "Superman's killer" away from better-established villains. Starring in an iconic story also meant that he kept showing up well past it, despite being killed off multiple times. Worse, while fellow 90s event HeroKiller ComicBook/{{Bane}} has managed to leverage his role in an iconic story to become more interesting, all Doomsday seems to do with his fame is keep cropping up for increasingly monotonous slugfests. His tendency to lose these slugfests have also [[VillainDecay piddled away whatever threat he once had]], and made his big break look increasingly like a lucky shot. A wide chunk of the fanbase is completely sick of him, and considering that he has [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superdoom_(Earth_45) at least one]] official {{Expy}} that amounts to calling him everything wrong with modern Superman, it seems the feeling isn't unique to them.
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