History TheRival / ComicBooks

18th Jan '17 12:36:36 PM rafi
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* The relationship between ComicBook/SheHulk and [[ComicBook/BettyRoss Red She-Hulk]] has progressed into this.

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* ''Franchise/{{DCU}}'':
** One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].
** [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] is generally portrayed as this when fighting Franchise/{{Superman}}.
** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} has got several rivals during her career. Pre-Crisis Supergirl worked for a while as a junior photographer for San Francisco station KSF-TV. Back then Nasthalthia 'Nasty' Luthor was her rival. In ''Comicbook/DemonSpawn'' Linda is willing to admit out loud that 'Nasty' is a better photographer, but the other woman belittles her anyway as selling herself so their boss fires Linda.
** ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
*** Jason Todd sees entire Batman Family as his Rivals. Most his plots are primarily based off of his desire to prove he's better. He constantly says that his aim to be a better Batman than Bruce Wayne ever was.
*** As Robin, he was rather competitive with his predecessor, Dick Grayson. Though it was more of a one-sided rivarly, since Dick feels/felt friendlier towards Jason.
*** Damian Wayne outright declares Tim Drake is his rival for Batman's approval. Tim (while less hammy about it) feels the same way towards Damian.
*** Back to Jason, he outright declares to Dick (who is now Batman) that he is the competition.
*** The New 52 seems to make it an {{Informed Attribute}} seeing as Jason acts less hostile and competitive to the Family. Though in a flashback (with him as Robin) he does say to Nightwing that life is a competition.
* ''Franchise/MarvelUniverse'':
** [[ComicBook/FantasticFour The Thing]] is generally portrayed as this when fighting [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]].
** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is also seen as Hulk's rival. That's probably because Wolverine debuted in Hulk's book.
** Namor the ComicBook/SubMariner and the Hulk were both mainly used as [[DesignatedAntagonist obstacles for heroes]] in early comics, which may be why writers decided to pit them against each other. Hulk hates Namor's rudeness and arrogance and Namor hates Hulk's childish behavior and stupidity. The rivalry remained even when they were on the same team. Admittedly thanks to their time on the Defenders they act more like squabbling siblings as opposed to actually trying to kill each other.
**
The relationship between ComicBook/SheHulk and [[ComicBook/BettyRoss Red She-Hulk]] has progressed into this. this.
** ComicBook/SpiderMan and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]] have had a friendly rivalry for a long time, pretty much their entire careers, in fact.
** Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey and ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.
** At work, Peter in the past had Ned Leeds that was also a rival for Betty's love.
** Chili is this to ''ComicBook/MillieTheModel''.
* ''ComicBook/{{Cubitus}}'': Cubitus and Sénéchal.
* ''ComicBook/DeKiekeboes'': Marcel Kiekeboe and Leon Van Der Neffe often try to get even or the better of each other.
* ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse: Donald Duck and Gladstone Gander often try to conquer the interest of Daisy Duck. Donald himself also has rivalry going on with Neighbour Jones. Scrooge [=McDuck's=] financial rival is Flintheart Glimgold.
* The titular band and The Misfits become rivals in ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' after the former outstages the latter. They're in two different genres of music (pop vs metal) but they often butt heads. Two members of the band are [[DatingCatwoman dating]] but it doesn't stop them from getting angry at the others bandmates.
* The eponymous ''ComicBook/KatyKeene'' had Gloria and Lucki.
* ''ComicBook/LeonardLeGenie'': Léonard and the Great Albert are rival professors/inventors.
* Book 3 of ''ComicBook/LesLegendaires'' introduce a group of hero named the [[PowerTrio Fabulous]] (consisting in asian-like swordman [[TheLeader Michi-Gan]], [[LastOfHisKind Comanshawas]] warrior [[TheStoic Shaki]] and Michi-Gan's foster daughter [[ChildProdigy Toopie]]) who started out as this to the [[TheProtagonist Legendaries]]. Notably, while the Fabulous displayed the typical jerkass rival attitude toward the Legendaries at the beginning, it was arguably justified: not only were the Legendaries at this point still [[HeroWithBadPublicity blamed by everyone]] for [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the Jovenia Incident]], but the Fabulous also reproached the Legendaries to have disbanded for two years in reaction to the blame, thus not being there when Alysia needed them ([[ThePaladin Danael]] later admits they were right on this point). On the other hand, the Fabulous placing themselves as replacement to the Legendaries while calling them outdated and constantly criticizing them didn't really made them easy to sympathise with at first. After the two teams were forced to collaborate, they eventually developped mutual respect, and are in good relationship in the following books.
* Ashley Swift is TheRival to Jennifer Mays in ''ComicBook/TheMazeAgency''. Jen's success is all the more galling for Ashley as Jen used to work for her.
* ''ComicStrip/{{Nero}}'': Madam Nero and Madam Pheip.



* The Thing is generally portrayed as this when fighting Hulk.
* The same can be said of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] and Franchise/{{Superman}}.
* Namor the ComicBook/SubMariner and the Hulk were both mainly used as [[DesignatedAntagonist obstacles for heroes]] in early comics, which may be why writers decided to pit them against each other. Hulk hates Namor's rudeness and arrogance and Namor hates Hulk's childish behavior and stupidity. The rivalry remained even when they were on the same team. Admittedly thanks to their time on the Defenders they act more like squabbling siblings as opposed to actually trying to kill each other.
* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is also seen as Hulk's rival. That's probably because Wolverine debuted in Hulk's book.
* ComicBook/SpiderMan and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]] have had a friendly rivalry for a long time, pretty much their entire careers, in fact.
* Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey and ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.
* One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] in ''Comicbook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'' as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} has got several rivals during her career. Pre-Crisis Supergirl worked for a while as a junior photographer for San Francisco station KSF-TV. Back then Nasthalthia 'Nasty' Luthor was her rival. In ''Comicbook/DemonSpawn'' Linda is willing to admit out loud that 'Nasty' is a better photographer, but the other woman belittles her anyway as selling herself so their boss fires Linda.
* Ashley Swift is TheRival to Jennifer Mays in ''ComicBook/TheMazeAgency''. Jen's success is all the more galling for Ashley as Jen used to work for her.
* The eponymous ''ComicBook/KatyKeene'' had Gloria and Lucki.
* Chili is this to ''ComicBook/MillieTheModel''.
* Book 3 of ''ComicBook/LesLegendaires'' introduce a group of hero named the [[PowerTrio Fabulous]] (consisting in asian-like swordman [[TheLeader Michi-Gan]], [[LastOfHisKind Comanshawas]] warrior [[TheStoic Shaki]] and Michi-Gan's foster daughter [[ChildProdigy Toopie]]) who started out as this to the [[TheProtagonist Legendaries]]. Notably, while the Fabulous displayed the typical jerkass rival attitude toward the Legendaries at the beginning, it was arguably justified: not only were the Legendaries at this point still [[HeroWithBadPublicity blamed by everyone]] for [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the Jovenia Incident]], but the Fabulous also reproached the Legendaries to have disbanded for two years in reaction to the blame, thus not being there when Alysia needed them ([[ThePaladin Danael]] later admits they were right on this point). On the other hand, the Fabulous placing themselves as replacement to the Legendaries while calling them outdated and constantly criticizing them didn't really made them easy to sympathise with at first. After the two teams were forced to collaborate, they eventually developped mutual respect, and are in good relationship in the following books.
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
** Jason Todd sees entire Batman Family as his Rivals. Most his plots are primarily based off of his desire to prove he's better. He constantly says that his aim to be a better Batman than Bruce Wayne ever was.
** As Robin, he was rather competitive with his predecessor, Dick Grayson. Though it was more of a one-sided rivarly, since Dick feels/felt friendlier towards Jason.
** Damian Wayne outright declares Tim Drake is his rival for Batman's approval. Tim (while less hammy about it) feels the same way towards Damian.
** Back to Jason, he outright declares to Dick (who is now Batman) that he is the competition.
** The New 52 seems to make it an {{Informed Attribute}} seeing as Jason acts less hostile and competitive to the Family. Though in a flashback (with him as Robin) he does say to Nightwing that life is a competition.

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* The Thing is generally portrayed as this when fighting Hulk.
* The same can be said of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]]
''ComicBook/PietPienterEnBertBibber'': Both Bert Bibber and Franchise/{{Superman}}.
* Namor the ComicBook/SubMariner and the Hulk were both mainly used as [[DesignatedAntagonist obstacles for heroes]] in early comics, which may be why writers decided
Theo Flitser try to pit them against each other. Hulk hates Namor's rudeness and arrogance and Namor hates Hulk's childish behavior and stupidity. The rivalry remained even when they were on the same team. Admittedly thanks to their time on the Defenders they act more like squabbling siblings as opposed to actually trying to kill each other.
* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is also seen as Hulk's rival. That's probably because Wolverine debuted in Hulk's book.
* ComicBook/SpiderMan and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]] have had a friendly rivalry for a long time, pretty much their entire careers, in fact.
* Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey and ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.
* One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] in ''Comicbook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'' as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} has got several rivals during her career. Pre-Crisis Supergirl worked for a while as a junior photographer for San Francisco station KSF-TV. Back then Nasthalthia 'Nasty' Luthor was her rival. In ''Comicbook/DemonSpawn'' Linda is willing to admit out loud that 'Nasty' is a better photographer, but the other woman belittles her anyway as selling herself so their boss fires Linda.
* Ashley Swift is TheRival to Jennifer Mays in ''ComicBook/TheMazeAgency''. Jen's success is
seduce Susan. Bert feels jealous about Theo all the more galling for Ashley as Jen used to work for her.
* The eponymous ''ComicBook/KatyKeene'' had Gloria and Lucki.
* Chili is this to ''ComicBook/MillieTheModel''.
* Book 3 of ''ComicBook/LesLegendaires'' introduce a group of hero named the [[PowerTrio Fabulous]] (consisting in asian-like swordman [[TheLeader Michi-Gan]], [[LastOfHisKind Comanshawas]] warrior [[TheStoic Shaki]] and Michi-Gan's foster daughter [[ChildProdigy Toopie]]) who started out as this to the [[TheProtagonist Legendaries]]. Notably, while the Fabulous displayed the typical jerkass rival attitude toward the Legendaries at the beginning, it was arguably justified: not only were the Legendaries at this point still [[HeroWithBadPublicity blamed by everyone]] for [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the Jovenia Incident]], but the Fabulous also reproached the Legendaries to have disbanded for two years in reaction to the blame, thus not being there when Alysia needed them ([[ThePaladin Danael]] later admits they were right on this point). On the other hand, the Fabulous placing themselves as replacement to the Legendaries while calling them outdated and constantly criticizing them didn't really made them easy to sympathise with at first. After the two teams were forced to collaborate, they eventually developped mutual respect, and are in good relationship in the following books.
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
** Jason Todd sees entire Batman Family as his Rivals. Most his plots are primarily based off of his desire to prove he's better. He constantly says that his aim to be a better Batman than Bruce Wayne ever was.
** As Robin, he was rather competitive with his predecessor, Dick Grayson. Though it was more of a one-sided rivarly, since Dick feels/felt friendlier towards Jason.
** Damian Wayne outright declares Tim Drake is his rival for Batman's approval. Tim (while less hammy about it) feels the same way towards Damian.
** Back to Jason, he outright declares to Dick (who is now Batman) that he is the competition.
** The New 52 seems to make it an {{Informed Attribute}} seeing as Jason acts less hostile and competitive to the Family. Though in a flashback (with him as Robin) he does say to Nightwing that life is a competition.
time.



* ''ComicStrip/{{Nero}}'': Madam Nero and Madam Pheip.
* ''ComicBook/{{Cubitus}}'': Cubitus and Sénéchal.
* ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse: WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Gladstone Gander often try to conquer the interest of Daisy Duck. Donald himself also has rivalry going on with Neighbour Jones. Scrooge [=McDuck's=] financial rival is Flintheart Glimgold.
* ''ComicBook/PietPienterEnBertBibber'': Both Bert Bibber and Theo Flitser try to seduce Susan. Bert feels jealous about Theo all the time.
* ''ComicBook/DeKiekeboes'': Marcel Kiekeboe and Leon Van Der Neffe often try to get even or the better of each other.

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* ''ComicStrip/{{Nero}}'': Madam Nero and Madam Pheip.
* ''ComicBook/{{Cubitus}}'': Cubitus and Sénéchal.
* ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse: WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Gladstone Gander often try to conquer
Herminus from ''ComicBook/{{Swordquest}}'' is a thief who wants the interest [[MacGuffin Sword of Daisy Duck. Donald himself also has rivalry going on with Neighbour Jones. Scrooge [=McDuck's=] financial rival is Flintheart Glimgold.
* ''ComicBook/PietPienterEnBertBibber'': Both Bert Bibber and Theo Flitser try to seduce Susan. Bert feels jealous about Theo all
Ultimate Sorcery]] that the time.
* ''ComicBook/DeKiekeboes'': Marcel Kiekeboe and Leon Van Der Neffe often try to get even or the better of each other.
protagonists are after.



* ''ComicBook/LeonardLeGenie'': Léonard and the Great Albert are rival professors/inventors.



* Herminus from ''ComicBook/{{Swordquest}}'' is a thief who wants the [[MacGuffin Sword of Ultimate Sorcery]] that the protagonists are after.
* The titular band and The Misfits become rivals in ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' after the former outstages the latter. They're in two different genres of music (pop vs metal) but they often butt heads. Two members of the band are [[DatingCatwoman dating]] but it doesn't stop them from getting angry at the others bandmates.
14th Jan '17 10:41:41 PM LBHills
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* Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey andComicBook/{{Venom}}. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.

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* Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey andComicBook/{{Venom}}.and ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.
29th Dec '16 11:50:45 PM Tron80
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* One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].

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* One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] in ''Comicbook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'' as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].
30th Nov '16 11:16:02 PM Tron80
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* One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of Kara as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].

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* One of the hallmarks of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic book series is that the titular characters are ideological rivals and the reader is treated to their differing opinions of the same event. For example, where Superman sees the discovery of Kara [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] as a love story (finding a long lost family member) Batman believes finding another Kryptonian is a detective story (is she really the noble person she is claiming to be, or is she hiding something?). While both have very different opinions, they generally respect each others beliefs due to their superficially different, but [[MyParentsAreDead surprisingly]] [[DeathByOriginStory similar origins]].origins]].
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} has got several rivals during her career. Pre-Crisis Supergirl worked for a while as a junior photographer for San Francisco station KSF-TV. Back then Nasthalthia 'Nasty' Luthor was her rival. In ''Comicbook/DemonSpawn'' Linda is willing to admit out loud that 'Nasty' is a better photographer, but the other woman belittles her anyway as selling herself so their boss fires Linda.
22nd Jun '16 12:21:43 AM DrPsyche
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** Nakamura Koji was Katsuichi's most serious rival. Koji started as an arrogant instructor for the series BigBad, and he faced Katsuichi in a duel. Katsuichi beat him three times and humiliated him, but Koji learned from his mistakes grew humble and trained for a rematch. He started as an UnknownRival to Katsuichi who'd faced many people like him; up until Koji defeated Usagi himself and used him as a messenger to demand a rematch from Katsuichi. The 17th volume is dedicated to their duel, a duel that Katsuichi wins. In the end he cremates his rival memorializing him as an honorable and powerful warrior.

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** Nakamura Koji was Katsuichi's most serious rival. Koji started as an arrogant instructor for the series BigBad, and he faced Katsuichi in a duel. Katsuichi beat him three times and humiliated him, but Koji learned from his mistakes grew humble and trained for a rematch. He started as an UnknownRival to Katsuichi who'd faced many people like him; up until Koji defeated Usagi himself and used him as a messenger to demand a rematch from Katsuichi. The 17th volume is dedicated to their duel, a duel that Katsuichi wins. In the end he cremates his rival memorializing him as an honorable and powerful warrior.duel.
20th Jun '16 2:42:29 PM DrPsyche
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* ''ComicBook/UsagiYojimbo:'' Usagi's Sensei Katsuichi has accumulated a few rivals in his life-time, having more than Usagi himself.
** In his youth Katsuichi clashed with Toshi, the top swordsman of his opposing school. It was fairly one-sided, Toshi was jealous of Katsuichi's success, and both pursued the same woman. Katsuichi himself tried his best to be respectful and accommodating to Toshi up until he killed Katsuichi's lover whereupon they dueled and Katsuichi slew him before leaving to become a hermit.
** Isao is a Subverted example. Katsuichi and Isao were the top students of the same school and while they were competitive they had a lot of respect for each other and a healthy friendship. Each of them felt that the other had surpassed them in swordsmanship, and Isao was sad to see Katsuichi drop out of the running to see who would take over their dojo. In the present day both are [[OldMaster old masters]] and Katsuichi still keeps a correspondence with his old friend.
** Nakamura Koji was Katsuichi's most serious rival. Koji started as an arrogant instructor for the series BigBad, and he faced Katsuichi in a duel. Katsuichi beat him three times and humiliated him, but Koji learned from his mistakes grew humble and trained for a rematch. He started as an UnknownRival to Katsuichi who'd faced many people like him; up until Koji defeated Usagi himself and used him as a messenger to demand a rematch from Katsuichi. The 17th volume is dedicated to their duel, a duel that Katsuichi wins. In the end he cremates his rival memorializing him as an honorable and powerful warrior.
30th May '16 1:01:34 PM Pichu-kun
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* The same can be said of Captain Marvel and Superman.

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* The same can be said of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel Marvel]] and Superman.Franchise/{{Superman}}.



* Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey and [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Comicbook/Venom Venom]]. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.

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* Speaking of Spider-Man, a more dangerous example would be Spidey and [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Comicbook/Venom Venom]].andComicBook/{{Venom}}. Even after Venom has "reformed" they're still fierce rivals.


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* The titular band and The Misfits become rivals in ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' after the former outstages the latter. They're in two different genres of music (pop vs metal) but they often butt heads. Two members of the band are [[DatingCatwoman dating]] but it doesn't stop them from getting angry at the others bandmates.
24th Nov '15 1:04:04 PM StFan
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* ''ComicStrip/DeKiekeboes'': Marcel Kiekeboe and Leon Van Der Neffe often try to get even or the better of each other.

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* ''ComicStrip/DeKiekeboes'': ''ComicBook/DeKiekeboes'': Marcel Kiekeboe and Leon Van Der Neffe often try to get even or the better of each other.



19th Jul '15 10:06:47 AM nombretomado
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* Ashley Swift is TheRival to Jennifer Mays in ''TheMazeAgency''. Jen's success is all the more galling for Ashley as Jen used to work for her.

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* Ashley Swift is TheRival to Jennifer Mays in ''TheMazeAgency''.''ComicBook/TheMazeAgency''. Jen's success is all the more galling for Ashley as Jen used to work for her.
13th Mar '15 4:57:02 PM rjung
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* Herminus from ''ComicBook/{{Swordquest}}'' is a thief who wants the [[MacGuffin Sword of Ultimate Sorcery]] that the protagonists are after.
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