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9th Jan '17 8:27:39 PM SenorCornholio
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** Anime/DragonBallSuper adds another one: [[spoiler: Zamasu and Goku Black, fused into Merged Zamasu, are technically defeated in the classic usage of the word, but then he becomes law itself and [[KillEmAll kills everyone]] in the BadFuture timeline save Future Trunks and Mai, Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, and the Supreme Kais. Even though [[DeusExMachina Goku calls upon Future Zen'O who obliterates Zamasu (albeit at the cost of the entire timeline itself)]], Zamasu got what he wanted: the extinction of all mortals. It's only thanks to Whis that his genocide only extended to one timeline.]]

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** Anime/DragonBallSuper adds another one: [[spoiler: Zamasu and Goku Black, fused into Merged Zamasu, are technically defeated in the classic usage of the word, but then he becomes law itself and [[KillEmAll kills everyone]] in the BadFuture timeline save Future Trunks and Mai, Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, and the Supreme Kais. Even though [[DeusExMachina Goku calls upon Future Zen'O who obliterates Zamasu (albeit at the cost of the entire timeline itself)]], Zamasu got what he wanted: the extinction of all mortals. It's only thanks to Whis Whis' LoopholeAbuse that his Zamasu's genocide only extended to one timeline.]]
24th Dec '16 1:28:19 PM SenorCornholio
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** Anime/DragonBallSuper adds another one: [[spoiler: Zamasu and Goku Black, fused into Merged Zamasu, are technically defeated in the classic usage of the word, but then he becomes law itself and [[KillEmAll kills everyone]] in the BadFuture timeline save Future Trunks and Mai, Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, and the Supreme Kais]]. Even though [[DeusExMachina Goku calls upon Future Zen'O who obliterates Zamasu (albeit at the cost of the entire timeline itself)]], Zamasu got what he wanted: the extinction of all mortals. It's only thanks to Whis that his genocide only extended to one timeline.]]

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** Anime/DragonBallSuper adds another one: [[spoiler: Zamasu and Goku Black, fused into Merged Zamasu, are technically defeated in the classic usage of the word, but then he becomes law itself and [[KillEmAll kills everyone]] in the BadFuture timeline save Future Trunks and Mai, Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, and the Supreme Kais]].Kais. Even though [[DeusExMachina Goku calls upon Future Zen'O who obliterates Zamasu (albeit at the cost of the entire timeline itself)]], Zamasu got what he wanted: the extinction of all mortals. It's only thanks to Whis that his genocide only extended to one timeline.]]
24th Dec '16 1:27:34 PM SenorCornholio
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** Anime/DragonBallSuper adds another one: [[spoiler: Zamasu and Goku Black, fused into Merged Zamasu, are technically defeated in the classic usage of the word, but then he becomes law itself and [[KillEmAll kills everyone]] in the BadFuture timeline save Future Trunks and Mai, Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, and the Supreme Kais]]. Even though [[DeusExMachina Goku calls upon Future Zen'O who obliterates Zamasu (albeit at the cost of the entire timeline itself)]], Zamasu got what he wanted: the extinction of all mortals. It's only thanks to Whis that his genocide only extended to one timeline.]]
12th Dec '16 11:02:13 AM nighttrainfm
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* Demon King Piccolo from ''Manga/DragonBall'' succeeded in everything he wanted. He got the dragon balls to give him eternal youth and killed the dragon so no one could ever use the dragon balls against him. He also killed a number of the strongest fighters in the world, and seize control of the entire world. Too bad his reign was short-lived because of Goku.
** The Cell Arc - no, really. Even though Doctor Gero can only watch his triumph from Hell, he is the only villain in the entire Dragon Ball franchise to have got exactly what he wanted; the death of Son Goku at the hands of his creations.
** In a twist on the usual Z movie format, the 2013 ''[[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods Battle of Gods]]'' special introduces a shiny new power-up for Goku...that ''still'' isn't enough to beat the villain. He's too spent to blow up Earth like he planned, so call that a win.

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* ''Franchise/DragonBall'':
** In the ''short'' term,
Demon King Piccolo from ''Manga/DragonBall'' succeeded in everything he wanted. He got the dragon balls to give him eternal youth and killed the dragon so no one could ever use the dragon balls against him. He also killed a number of the strongest fighters in the world, and seize seized control of the entire world. Too bad his reign was short-lived because of Goku.
** The Cell Arc - no, really. Even though Doctor Gero can only watch his triumph from Hell, he is the only villain in the entire Dragon Ball franchise to have got exactly what he wanted; wanted: the death of Son Goku at the hands of his creations.
** In a twist on the usual Z movie format, the 2013 ''[[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods Battle of Gods]]'' special movie introduces a shiny new power-up for Goku...that ''still'' isn't enough to beat the villain. He's too spent to blow up Earth like he planned, so call that a win.
16th Nov '16 8:51:39 PM Everdream
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* ''Manga/WolfsRain'' - [[spoiler:after everything the wolves and Cheza went through Paradise starts to form, but because Darcia's freaking ''eye'' is in the water, Paradise is tainted and it turns into the modern world filled with humans and hate and war all over again.]] ''May'' be mitigated by the last few moments [[spoiler:when we see Kiba, reincarnated in the modern world, starting to run, [[HereWeGoAgain implying that the search for Paradise has just begun anew]]]].

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* ''Manga/WolfsRain'' - [[spoiler:after everything the wolves and Cheza went through Paradise starts to form, but because Darcia's freaking ''eye'' is in the water, Paradise is tainted and it turns into the modern world filled with humans and hate and war all over again.]] ''May'' be mitigated by the last few moments [[spoiler:when we see Kiba, reincarnated in the modern world, starting to run, run after smelling Cheza's scent, [[HereWeGoAgain implying that the search for Paradise has just begun anew]]]].
22nd Oct '16 11:50:46 AM EDP
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* ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' has three examples:
** The Invid Regent's plan for the Robotech Masters is to conquer their homeworld Tirol and devastate it in retaliation for the Masters' destruction of the Invid's homeworld, this being more important to him than the Invid's main goal of finding and recovering the Flower of Life. At the very start of the planned ''Robotech: The Sentinels'' spin-off (of which the first three episodes were completed before the project was abandoned) we see his forces overrunning the planetary capital, the last place on Tirol that was still free of his control, and wreck the city, and he stays in control for an unknown period of time until the Robotech Expeditionary Force arrives and frees the planet.
** In the meantime the Invid Regess completed the Invid's main goal, having learned that it had been seeded on Earth and overran the planet. Differently from the Regent, she's not defeated: ''she'' decides to leave when keeping control of Earth was not necessary anymore and remaining could have caused mutual destruction.
** Brought upon us by the reboot, and only noticed through FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler:the Anti-Unification League, whose goal was to conquer Earth through any means and had used terror tactics before being forced to lie low, is actually in control of Earth after the REF leaves and through the whole "Masters" saga thanks to Anatole Leonard, supreme commander of the Southern Cross and the man who actually calls the shot, being one of their members that escaped identification]]. Thankfully, by the time this happens their last leader is a WellIntentionedExtremist who has more common sense than the civilian government and not the power-hungry ones of the old days...
4th Oct '16 8:32:33 AM comicwriter
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* ''Manga/{{Teppu}}'' is a {{Deconstruction}} of Shonen sports/martial arts manga told from the perspective of a girl named Natsuo, who is basically the JerkAss [[TheRival Rival]] character seen in so many of those series. [[spoiler: The series ends with Natsuo being defeated by Yuzuko, who a kindhearted young GenkiGirl that fits the mold of the traditional Shonen [[TheHero Hero]]. So basically, it's The Good Guy Wins.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Teppu}}'' is a {{Deconstruction}} of Shonen sports/martial arts manga told from the perspective of a girl named Natsuo, who is basically the JerkAss [[TheRival Rival]] character seen in so many of those series. [[spoiler: The series ends with Natsuo being defeated by Yuzuko, who a kindhearted young GenkiGirl that who fits the mold of the traditional Shonen [[TheHero Hero]]. So basically, it's The Good Guy Wins.]]
4th Oct '16 8:32:01 AM comicwriter
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* ''Manga/{{Teppu}}'' is a {{Deconstruction}} of Shonen sports/martial arts manga told from the perspective of a girl named Natsuo, who is basically the Jerkass [[TheRival Rival]] character seen in so many of those series. [[spoiler: The series ends with Natsuo being defeated by Yuzuko, who a kindhearted young GenkiGirl that fits the mold of the traditional Shonen [[TheHero Hero]]. So basically, it's The Good Guy Wins.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Teppu}}'' is a {{Deconstruction}} of Shonen sports/martial arts manga told from the perspective of a girl named Natsuo, who is basically the Jerkass JerkAss [[TheRival Rival]] character seen in so many of those series. [[spoiler: The series ends with Natsuo being defeated by Yuzuko, who a kindhearted young GenkiGirl that fits the mold of the traditional Shonen [[TheHero Hero]]. So basically, it's The Good Guy Wins.]]
4th Oct '16 8:31:26 AM comicwriter
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* ''Manga/{{Teppu}}'' is a {{Deconstruction}} of Shonen sports/martial arts manga told from the perspective of a girl named Natsuo, who is basically the Jerkass [[TheRival Rival]] character seen in so many of those series. [[spoiler: The series ends with Natsuo being defeated by Yuzuko, who a kindhearted young GenkiGirl that fits the mold of the traditional Shonen [[TheHero Hero]]. So basically, it's The Good Guy Wins.]]
3rd Aug '16 5:56:23 AM Sedaver
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* ''Anime/SailorMoon''. If only the Sailor Guardians had arrived just a little bit earlier at the end of Episode 24...
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