History TheAllegedCar / RealLife

7th Dec '16 7:10:48 AM Scifimaster92
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* The Xiali TJ7100, based on the third-generation Daihatsu Charade, was one of the first Chinese cars to enter the market, wasn't reliable at all, and remained in production for two decades without any major changes.

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* The Xiali TJ7100, [=TJ7100=], based on the third-generation Daihatsu Charade, was one of the first Chinese cars to enter the market, wasn't reliable at all, and remained in production for two decades without any major changes.
2nd Dec '16 11:42:34 PM Scifimaster92
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devrim Devrim]], the first Turkish-produced car, had this reputation despite not really deserving it; in particular, its first test drive by then-President Cemal Gürsoy was a disaster because they forgot to fill the gas tank, and it very publicly stopped after only a hundred meters. This caused the press and the public to think of it as an Alleged Car, and it never sold well.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devrim Devrim]], the first Turkish-produced car, had this reputation despite not really deserving it; in particular, its first test drive by then-President Cemal Gürsoy Gürsel was a disaster because they forgot to fill the gas tank, and it very publicly stopped after only a hundred meters. This caused the press and the public to think of it as an Alleged Car, and it never sold well.
1st Dec '16 2:13:28 PM Yalsaris63
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** Mercedes also produced the Smart Fortwo, which is notorious for its bad semi-automatic gearbox and not that good fuel consumption. It does not help that the car can only seat 2.

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** Mercedes also produced the Smart Fortwo, which is notorious for its bad semi-automatic gearbox and not that good fuel consumption. It does not help that the car can only seat 2.
2 and is as small as a birdcage; good for parking but a deathtrap if it were ever to get into an accident.
1st Dec '16 2:08:33 PM Yalsaris63
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* Pontiac created several Alleged Cars with the "Iron Duke" engine, an iron-block straight-4 first built in 1977. It was intended almost solely to meet emissions regulations and burn less fuel; performance was basically an afterthought. This led to an output of only 85 to 110 brake horsepower, and a car with this engine would need ''nineteen seconds'' on average to go from 0 to 60 mph. It would remain in production until 1993, but not before being an option on powerful cars like the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird.

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* Pontiac created several Alleged Cars with the "Iron Duke" engine, an iron-block straight-4 first built in 1977. It was intended almost solely to meet emissions regulations and burn less fuel; performance was basically an afterthought. This led to an output of only 85 to 110 brake horsepower, and a car with this engine would need ''nineteen seconds'' on average to go from 0 to 60 mph. It would remain in production until 1993, but not before being an option on powerful cars like the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird.Firebird during the 1982-1984 periods.
27th Nov '16 1:28:07 PM Gsueagle31049
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* The Nissan Tsuru, the early 90s Sentra in the US and Canada, remained relatively unchanged during its ''[[LongRunner 25 year]]'' production run. Mechanically, it was the antithesis to this trope; it was reliable despite its cheap price, which made it popular with taxi operators. What pushes the Tsuru into Alleged Car territory is modern safety standards, which the Tsuru is far behind in [[http://jalopnik.com/horrifying-crash-test-against-a-modern-car-shows-why-me-1788423100 as a head on collision test against a 2016 Nissan Versa demonstrates]]; while both cars were destroyed, the Versa's cabin remained intact while the Tsuru's cabin was completely decimated. The result of that test, as well as 4,000 plus fatalities involving the car between 2007 and 2012, led to the Tsuru's discontinuation in 2017.

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* The Nissan Tsuru, the an early 90s Sentra in the US and Canada, remained relatively unchanged during its ''[[LongRunner 25 year]]'' production run. Mechanically, run; it was the antithesis to this trope; it was reliable despite its cheap price, which made it popular with Mexican taxi operators. cab operators because it was cheap, parts were plentiful, and reliable given its price. What pushes the Tsuru into Alleged Car territory is modern safety standards, which the Tsuru is far behind in [[http://jalopnik.com/horrifying-crash-test-against-a-modern-car-shows-why-me-1788423100 as a head on head-on collision test against a 2016 Nissan Versa demonstrates]]; while both cars were destroyed, the Versa's cabin remained intact while the Tsuru's cabin was completely decimated.compromised. The result of that test, as well as 4,000 plus fatalities involving the car between 2007 and 2012, led to the Tsuru's discontinuation in 2017.
27th Nov '16 12:11:47 AM Gsueagle31049
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* The Nissan Tsuru, the early 90s Sentra in the US and Canada, remained relatively unchanged during its ''[[LongRunner 25 year]]'' production run. Mechanically, it was the antithesis to this trope; it was reliable despite its cheap price, which made it popular with taxi operators. What pushes the Tsuru into Alleged Car territory is modern safety standards, which the Tsuru is far behind in [[http://jalopnik.com/horrifying-crash-test-against-a-modern-car-shows-why-me-1788423100 as a head on collision test against a 2016 Nissan Versa demonstrates]]; while both cars were destroyed, the Versa's cabin remained intact while the Tsuru's cabin was completely decimated. The result of that test, as well as 4,000 plus fatalities involving the car between 2007 and 2012, led to the Tsuru's discontinuation in 2017.
17th Nov '16 10:43:29 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** It also hit the market at the wrong time, right at the onset of the 1958 recession. Americans were just starting to sour on huge, over-the-top land yachts. For introduced the sensible compact Falcon for model year 1960 and it was an immediate success; its fancier sibling Comet was a Mercury, but was [[WhatMightHaveBeen originally considered for the Edsel lineup]].

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** It also hit the market at the wrong time, right at the onset of the 1958 recession. Americans were just starting to sour on huge, over-the-top land yachts. For Ford introduced the sensible compact Falcon for model year 1960 and it was an immediate success; its fancier sibling Comet was a Mercury, but was [[WhatMightHaveBeen [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally considered for the Edsel lineup]].
17th Nov '16 10:41:46 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* The [[http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/edsel.html Edsel]]'s gotten a ShoutOut in everything from ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' to ''VideoGame/DestroyAllHumans'' as one of the worst cars ever made. It wasn't that bad mechanically; it was about as reliable as other American cars of its day. But it was [[http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/edsel.html marketed wrong, priced wrong, named wrong, and most of all, just plain ugly]].

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* The [[http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/edsel.html [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsel Edsel]]'s gotten a ShoutOut in everything from ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' to ''VideoGame/DestroyAllHumans'' as one of the worst cars ever made. It wasn't that bad mechanically; it was about as reliable as other American cars of its day. But it was [[http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/edsel.[[http://auto.howstuffworks.com/why-the-ford-edsel-failed.html marketed wrong, priced wrong, named wrong, and most of all, just plain ugly]].
17th Nov '16 10:39:11 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** Despite the claims of safety, one glaring problem made the car downright dangerous. The doors were electrically operated and too heavy to open by hand if the motors failed, so a dead battery meant the only way to get out of the car was to climb out through the rear hatch.

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** Despite the claims of safety, one glaring problem made the car downright dangerous. The doors (which were Gull-wing doors) were electrically operated and too heavy to open by hand if the motors failed, so a dead battery meant the only way to get out of the car was to climb out through the rear hatch.
14th Nov '16 7:33:51 PM Scifimaster92
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* As famously documented by Ralph Nader in ''Unsafe at Any Speed'', the first-generation Chevy Corvair was basically GM's version of the Pinto in the sense that it would become better known for its safety issues than for its merits as an automobile. Although popular, it quickly gained notoriety for its quirky handling characteristics resulting from its unusual (for a North American model) rear-engine layout and swing-axle suspension. But while the similarly-designed Porsche 911 was marketed to sports car enthusiasts who were experienced drivers to begin with and the also similarly-designed Volkswagen Beetle was too low-powered to reach a speed where the handling would be dangerous, the Corvair was sold as an everyday mid-market car whose purchasers assumed it would perform in a similar fashion as the front-engine vehicles they were used to and was to be maintained as such. This led many inexperienced motorists to treat their Corvairs as cheap sports cars and get themselves killed in the process. And just like with the Pinto, GM quickly figured that a cheap fix in the form of a front stabilizer bar could easily remedy most of the car's problems but ultimately decided it was even cheaper to leave the vehicle as it was and settle any future lawsuits, as revealed in Nader's book. (Contrary to popular belief, only the first chapter was about the Corvair specifically, the rest focusing on the American automobile industry in general.) While the accident rate for the Corvair was ''technically'' no worse than that of any of its contemporaries, these revelations left a bad taste in the public's mouth and the second-generation Corvair, whose design ''did'' incorporate the vital anti-sway bar as well as an independent suspension system, flopped hard. In the end, the Corvair was discontinued in 1969. The whole fiasco also practically [[GenreKiller killed the rear-engine automobile in North America]], and for the next decade or so other manufacturers save for Porsche shied away from the layout as well for fear of causing a similar reaction among consumers.

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* As famously documented by Ralph Nader in ''Unsafe at Any Speed'', the first-generation Chevy Corvair was basically GM's version of the Pinto in the sense that it would become better known for its safety issues than for its merits as an automobile. Although popular, it quickly gained notoriety for its quirky handling characteristics resulting from its unusual (for a North American model) rear-engine layout and swing-axle suspension. But while the similarly-designed Porsche 911 was marketed to sports car enthusiasts who were experienced drivers to begin with and the also similarly-designed Volkswagen Beetle was too low-powered to reach a speed where the handling would be dangerous, the Corvair was sold as an everyday mid-market car whose purchasers assumed it would perform in a similar fashion as the front-engine vehicles they were used to and was to be maintained as such. This led many inexperienced motorists to treat their Corvairs as cheap sports cars and get themselves killed in the process. The most famous Corvair casualty was undoubtedly Creator/ErnieKovacs, who was killed when he lost control of his Corvair Lakewood station wagon and slammed into a power pole during a rainstorm. And just like with the Pinto, GM quickly figured that a cheap fix in the form of a front stabilizer bar could easily remedy most of the car's problems but ultimately decided it was even cheaper to leave the vehicle as it was and settle any future lawsuits, as revealed in Nader's book. (Contrary to popular belief, only the first chapter was about the Corvair specifically, the rest focusing on the American automobile industry in general.) While the accident rate for the Corvair was ''technically'' no worse than that of any of its contemporaries, these revelations left a bad taste in the public's mouth and the second-generation Corvair, whose design ''did'' incorporate the vital anti-sway bar as well as an independent suspension system, flopped hard. In the end, the Corvair was discontinued in 1969. The whole fiasco also practically [[GenreKiller killed the rear-engine automobile in North America]], and for the next decade or so other manufacturers save for Porsche shied away from the layout as well for fear of causing a similar reaction among consumers.
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