History TheAllegedCar / RealLife

10th Dec '17 2:50:54 AM Acebrock
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* Newer versions of the Nissan Sentra are awful cars, according to reviews. in a 2016 comparison test of five small cars [[http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2016-chevrolet-cruze-vs-2016-honda-civic-2017-hyundai-elantra-2016-mazda-3-2016-nissan-sentra-comparison-test-2016-nissan-sentra-sl-page-2 conducted by Car and Driver]], the Sentra was included, and only scored 140 out of 250 (for reference the winner, the [=Mazda3=], scored 203, and fourth place, the Hyundai Elantra, scored 192). Specific problems included a godawful CVT that always hunts for the right ratio, suspension that the car seems to sit on versus being connected to resulting in the car lurching around when turning and braking, terrible steering feel, hard seats and slow acceleration. The only positives they could come up with in their positive/negative caption were "faster than walking, keeps the rain off you".

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* Newer versions of the Nissan Sentra are awful cars, according to reviews. in a 2016 comparison test of five small cars [[http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2016-chevrolet-cruze-vs-2016-honda-civic-2017-hyundai-elantra-2016-mazda-3-2016-nissan-sentra-comparison-test-2016-nissan-sentra-sl-page-2 conducted by Car and Driver]], the Sentra was included, and only scored 140 out of 250 (for reference the winner, the [=Mazda3=], scored 203, and fourth place, the Hyundai Elantra, scored 192). Specific problems included a godawful CVT that always hunts for the right ratio, suspension that the car seems to sit on versus being connected to resulting in the car lurching around when turning and braking, terrible steering feel, hard seats and slow acceleration. The only positives they could come up with in their positive/negative caption (where they have to come up with at least two for each) were [[DamnedByFaintPraise "faster than walking, keeps the rain off you". you".]]
6th Dec '17 3:39:42 AM DukeofFinland
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* While the FD-series third-generation Mazda RX-7 is loved by many and it is most certainly a [[CoolCar Cool Car]], it's hard to deny that it effectively cemented the rotary engine's reputation for unreliability. Mazda developed a sequential turbo setup to improve engine response, but such an engine generated a lot of heat and couldn't handle it, which killed its reliability. Many owners of the car have changed the sequential twin-turbo setup for a single-turbo setup, or take out the rotary engine entirely in favor of another engine (the Chevrolet Small-Block V8 seems to be the most common).

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* While the FD-series third-generation Mazda RX-7 is loved by many and it is most certainly a [[CoolCar Cool Car]], it's hard to deny that it effectively cemented the rotary engine's reputation for unreliability. Mazda developed a sequential turbo setup to improve engine response, but such an engine generated a lot of heat and couldn't handle it, which killed its reliability. Many owners of the car have changed the sequential twin-turbo setup for a single-turbo setup, or take out the rotary engine entirely in favor of another engine (the Chevrolet Small-Block V8 seems to be the most common).common) and ''[[BerserkButton for the love of god, never tell an RX-7 enthusiast you swapped out the wankel engine for a V8]]'' ''if you decide to go through with it''.
26th Nov '17 9:33:45 PM Scifimaster92
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* You only have to see Top Gear's RunningGag about the Morris Marina to know how awful the car truly is.

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* %% You only have to see Top Gear's RunningGag about the Morris Marina to know how awful the car truly is.
22nd Nov '17 7:51:13 AM Medinoc
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroen_2CV Citroën 2CV]] is the actual car model that became the TropeNamer. More commonly, it's also credited for introducing the term "lemon" (''citron'' in French, although the term apparently dates back to 1906) to refer to an Alleged Car. It was easy and cheap to repair, so it was popular as a low-budget car, and it was slightly more reliable than its competitors. But it was still a piece of crap with a tiny engine and required frequent maintenance. Its biggest flaw, in early models, was that its doors didn't have locks, so anybody could steal one by opening the door and pulling the ignition cord. Whether anybody would ''want'' to steal one is a different question.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroen_2CV Citroën 2CV]] is the actual car model that became the TropeNamer. More commonly, it's also credited for introducing the term "lemon" (''citron'' in French, although the term apparently dates back to 1906) to refer to an Alleged Car. It was easy and cheap to repair, so it was popular as a low-budget car, car (its name literally meaning its [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower tax horsepower]] was low), and it was slightly more reliable than its competitors. But it was still a piece of crap with a tiny engine and required frequent maintenance. Its biggest flaw, in early models, was that its doors didn't have locks, so anybody could steal one by opening the door and pulling the ignition cord. Whether anybody would ''want'' to steal one is a different question.
19th Nov '17 12:19:51 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* The [[http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/08/cadillac-catera.html Cadillac Catera]] was an attempt to release a sporty, modern car that could rival European sedans like the BMW 5 series or Mercedes E-class. Unfortunately, they ''again'' decided to do this by essentially re-badging another car, this time with the Opel Omega. Opel is ''not'' a luxury European brand, and it couldn't compete with BMW or Mercedes in this respect. But while European Omegas could be rather zippy on the road, for the Catera they used a de-rated version of the 3.0 V6 engine, a softer suspension, automatic gearbox only, and a bland-grey, no frills interior design. Just like they were trying to dull whatever good the Omega had. The Catera also had problems with the oil cooler and timing belt, as well as a bizarre advertising campaign featuring [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment an anthropomorphic cartoon spokes-duck]]. No wonder it was described by WebVideo/RegularCarReviews as Cadillac's [[Music/InTheLifeOfChrisGaines Chris Gaines album]].

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* The [[http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/08/cadillac-catera.html Cadillac Catera]] was an attempt to release a sporty, modern car that could rival European sedans like the BMW 5 series or Mercedes E-class. Unfortunately, they ''again'' decided to do this by essentially re-badging another car, this time with the Opel Omega. Opel is ''not'' a luxury European brand, and it couldn't compete with BMW or Mercedes in this respect. But while European Omegas could be rather zippy on the road, for the Catera they used a de-rated version of the 3.0 V6 engine, a softer suspension, automatic gearbox only, and a bland-grey, no frills interior design. Just like they were trying to dull whatever good the Omega had. The Catera also had problems with the oil cooler and timing belt, as well as a bizarre advertising campaign featuring [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment an anthropomorphic cartoon spokes-duck]]. [[note]](The duck was a reference to the "merlettes" that used to be in the Cadillac shield logo; many say that their absence from the current version of the logo is due to [[OldShame embarrassment]] over the Catera's failure)[[/note]] No wonder it was described by WebVideo/RegularCarReviews as Cadillac's [[Music/InTheLifeOfChrisGaines Chris Gaines album]].
26th Oct '17 3:49:15 PM Scifimaster92
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* GM's [=EV1=] was an attempt to make a revolutionary electric car, and it did indeed do more to advance electric car technology than any other vehicle. But GM wanted to save costs, so they fitted them with the same heavy lead-acid batteries as their other cars. This made them significantly heavier and severely compromised their range. By the time they could get better batteries, it was too late, and the car's value was trashed. GM responded by killing the [=EV1=] -- as in, taking all of them back and crushing them which they could do because they had never allowed any to be *sold*, they were only offered to consumers as a lease -- and thus the electric car as a whole for a good decade.

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* GM's [=EV1=] was an attempt to make a revolutionary electric car, and it did indeed do more to advance electric car technology than any other vehicle. But GM wanted to save costs, so they fitted them with the same heavy lead-acid batteries as their other cars. This made them significantly heavier and severely compromised their range. By the time they could get better batteries, it was too late, and the car's value was trashed. GM responded by killing the [=EV1=] -- as in, taking all of them back and crushing them which they could do because they had never allowed any to be *sold*, '''''sold''''', they were only offered to consumers as a lease -- and thus the electric car as a whole for a good decade.
26th Oct '17 9:20:47 AM nlpnt
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* GM's [=EV1=] was an attempt to make a revolutionary electric car, and it did indeed do more to advance electric car technology than any other vehicle. But GM wanted to save costs, so they fitted them with the same heavy lead-acid batteries as their other cars. This made them significantly heavier and severely compromised their range. By the time they could get better batteries, it was too late, and the car's value was trashed. GM responded by killing the [=EV1=] -- and thus the electric car as a whole for a good decade.

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* GM's [=EV1=] was an attempt to make a revolutionary electric car, and it did indeed do more to advance electric car technology than any other vehicle. But GM wanted to save costs, so they fitted them with the same heavy lead-acid batteries as their other cars. This made them significantly heavier and severely compromised their range. By the time they could get better batteries, it was too late, and the car's value was trashed. GM responded by killing the [=EV1=] -- as in, taking all of them back and crushing them which they could do because they had never allowed any to be *sold*, they were only offered to consumers as a lease -- and thus the electric car as a whole for a good decade.
20th Oct '17 11:39:59 AM Scifimaster92
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* Lancia was an erstwhile respected manufacturer who was forced to pull out of the United Kingdom thanks to two alleged cars, the Beta and Gamma. The Beta had a severe rusting problem to the point of many having to be scrapped; the Gamma's engine overheated very easily and had severe handling problems. Later on, attempts to rebadge the Chrysler Voyager and 300 -- courtesy of the FIAT-Chrysler joint venture -- as Lancias for the European market failed to convince buyers. As of 2017, Lancia only produces one model, the Ypsilon supermini, and is sold only in Italy.

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* Lancia was an erstwhile respected a once-respected manufacturer who whose reputation was forced to pull out of the United Kingdom thanks to permanently destroyed by two alleged cars, the Beta and Gamma. The Beta had a severe rusting problem to the point of many having to be scrapped; the Gamma's engine overheated very easily and had severe handling problems. This forced the brand to pull out of the United Kingdom, among other things. Later on, attempts to rebadge the Chrysler Voyager and 300 -- courtesy of the FIAT-Chrysler joint venture -- as Lancias for the European market failed to convince buyers. As of 2017, Lancia only produces one model, the Ypsilon supermini, and is sold only in Italy.
9th Oct '17 12:03:37 AM Naveek
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* The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_ELR Cadillac ELR]] could be called the 21st century Cimarron. Based on the first generation [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt Chevrolet Volt]] plug in hybrid (Which wasn't so alleged itself), but sold at a staggering 76 thousand dollars (Double the base price of a Volt), with a less practical and roomy (If prettier looking) two door coupe body and no performance upgrades over the Volt. A price drop and performance upgrade after a one model year leave was not enough to bring in customers and the car was quietly discontinued.
5th Oct '17 12:03:08 PM KingLyger
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** Let's put it this way: If you can actually get it up to 88 mph, that really is some serious shit. Its performance was quite lacklustre, especially for an intended supercar, because it was watered down to save costs. It was originally designed for a rear-mounted rotary engine, but due to fuel concerns, it got a mid-mounted 2.8-litre V6 instead; this not only caused weight distribution issues, but also meant the very expensive [=DeLorean=] made only 145 HP (125 in the U.S. due to further emissions controls).
** ''Back to the Future'' is the only thing keeping it alive now, especially when people realize that using it as a time machine was proof that Doc Brown [[MadScientist maybe didn't have all his screws in tightly]]. A new company was formed in 2013 to remake the DMC-12 in several much more modern and reliable versions (including an electric one!).

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** Let's As for the car's performance, let's put it this way: If if you can actually get it this baby up to 88 mph, that you really is are seeing some serious shit. Its performance was quite lacklustre, especially for an intended supercar, because it was watered down to save costs. It was originally designed for a rear-mounted rotary engine, but due to fuel concerns, it got a mid-mounted 2.8-litre V6 instead; this not only caused weight distribution issues, but also meant the very expensive [=DeLorean=] made only 145 HP (125 in the U.S. due to further emissions controls).
** ''Back to the Future'' is the only thing keeping it alive now, especially when people realize that using it as a time machine was proof that Doc Brown [[MadScientist maybe didn't have all his screws in tightly]].tight enough]]. A new company was formed in 2013 to remake the DMC-12 in several much more modern and reliable versions (including an electric one!).



** The AMC/Renault Alliance, ''a.k.a'' "the Appliance". Both companies were well-known for making... interestingly-styled cars, and when combined, the Alliance had the Gallic eccentricity of a Renault and the attractiveness of...well, a Gremlin. The Alliance could be outrun by a loaded Isuzu diesel pickup truck. AMC wound up being bought by Chrysler, and Renault would pull out of the U.S. market for good.

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** The AMC/Renault Alliance, ''a.k.a'' "the Appliance". Both companies were well-known for making... interestingly-styled cars, and when combined, the Alliance had the Gallic eccentricity of a Renault and the attractiveness of... well, a Gremlin. The Alliance could be outrun by a loaded Isuzu diesel pickup truck. AMC wound up being bought by Chrysler, and Renault would pull out of the U.S. market for good.
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