History Tearjerker / HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban

25th Feb '17 11:15:08 AM kalel32688
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* In the film, Harry ''cries'' for the first time (''ever'', seeing he hadn't cried in the books yet even, aside from drying his eyes around Dumbledore and Lupin). "He was their friend...and he betrayed him... [[SuddenlyShouting HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!]]" Made even worse that Harry practically wishes death on his godfather for something he didn't do [[spoiler: which is, betraying and killing his parents.]]

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!!The Book
* In the film, While Harry ''cries'' for obviously has the first hardest time (''ever'', seeing he hadn't cried in of the books yet even, aside from drying his eyes around Dumbledore and Lupin). "He was their friend...and he betrayed him... [[SuddenlyShouting HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!]]" Made even worse Trio (in dealing with the fact that Harry practically wishes death on a mass murderer is out to get him and said murderer was his godfather for parents' best friend), Ron and Hermione don't have it great either. Ron is dealing with the fact that his pet (unaware of its actual identity) is supposedly dying, something he didn't do [[spoiler: which is, betraying doesn't get much sympathy for. Hermione, meanwhile, has been taking more lessons than usual. She's no doubt struggling under all the pressure, and killing his parents.]]it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!



** Harry's learning of the Patronus (or rather, his initial struggle to do so) is sad in a way that's so obvious that it's almost subtle. Especially the film, where Harry fails the first time and Lupin asks him what happy memory he chose to try to power the Patronus. Harry responds with his first memory of riding a broomstick and Lupin says that it wasn't "nearly strong enough." But until Harry finds the loophole (the memory doesn't always have to be real -- it can be a positive hope or dream or the like), that's literally the best he can come up with up to that point.
*** Not necessarily the best he has (he could probably think of his friends, and it would strong enough in time), but what's sad is that the happiest thing he can come up with is something that he can't even really remember, can't tell if it's even real. That Harry's happiest memory is his parents, that it is just of them doing nothing but ''talking''... now ''that'' is the TearJerker. How often he must have yearned for them, like any orphan (or even any''one'', when their own parents die)...
** Yet another tear-jerky item regarding the Patronus comes at the climax of the story - Harry after the time jump sees himself and Sirius being consumed by the Dementors, and Harry is waiting for his father to come and save him. He realizes his dad isn't coming and casts the Patronus himself. It's a really powerful scene with that in mind.
* A rather subtle, but effective, moment comes in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' when Harry catches himself ''almost hoping to be overwhelmed by a Dementor'' since, horrible as the experience is, it's the only time he's ever heard his parent's voices. Mind you, this becomes FridgeHorror when you learn that [[spoiler: Harry has a piece of Voldemort inside him]] and realize that [[spoiler: it isn’t ''Harry’s'' memory of his father telling Lily to take Harry and run, and neither is the one of Lily screaming...it's Voldemort's]].

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** Harry's learning of the Patronus (or rather, his initial struggle to do so) is sad in a way that's so obvious that it's almost subtle. Especially the film, where Harry fails the first time and Lupin asks him what happy memory he chose to try to power the Patronus. Harry responds with his first memory of riding a broomstick and Lupin says that it wasn't "nearly strong enough." But until Harry finds the loophole (the memory doesn't always have to be real -- real; it can be a positive hope or dream or the like), that's literally the best he can come up with up to that point.
*** Not necessarily the best he has (he could probably think of his friends, and it would strong enough in time), but what's sad is that the happiest thing he can come up with is something that he can't even really remember, can't tell if it's even real. That Harry's happiest memory is his parents, that it is just of them doing nothing but ''talking''... now ''that'' is the TearJerker. How often he must have yearned for them, like any orphan (or even any''one'', when their own parents die)...
** Yet another tear-jerky item regarding the Patronus comes at the climax of the story - Harry story: Harry, after the time jump jump, sees himself and Sirius being consumed by the Dementors, and Harry is waiting for his father to come and save him. He realizes his dad isn't coming and casts the Patronus himself. It's a really powerful scene with that in mind.
* A rather subtle, but effective, moment comes in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' when Harry catches himself ''almost hoping to be overwhelmed by a Dementor'' since, horrible as the experience is, it's the only time he's ever heard his parent's voices. voices.
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Mind you, this becomes FridgeHorror when you learn that [[spoiler: Harry [[spoiler:Harry has a piece of Voldemort inside him]] and realize that [[spoiler: it isn’t ''Harry’s'' [[spoiler:it isn't ''Harry's'' memory of his father telling Lily to take Harry their son and run, and neither is the one of Lily screaming...it's Voldemort's]].



* [[spoiler:Buckbeak's execution by the Ministry of Magic]] especially with Hagrid's friends nearby and powerless to help. [[spoiler: Thank heaven -- and a Time-Turner -- that they had more power to stop it than anyone realized.]]

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* During Harry's first tutoring session with the boggart!dementor, Harry hears his mother and father's voices for the first time in a decade. When Harry tells Lupin about it, he freezes and whispers "You heard James?" He must have missed his best friend so much.
* To go with the above, early in the book, Lupin stops Harry from facing the boggart on the assumption that it will take the form of Lord Voldemort. He nonchalantly states that such a thing would cause quite a ruckus and would thus not be a good idea. However, Harry greatly resembles his father James, Lupin's best friend...whom Voldemort murdered. It's quite likely that Lupin jumped in as quickly as he did because he was also trying to prevent having to see what would essentially be a near-reenactment of the night James died.
* Hagrid losing his confidence because of the incident with Buckbeak.
** Even worse is how [[{{Jerkass}} Malfoy]] did it ''on purpose!''
* Creator/JKRowling intended the Dementors to represent clinical depression, so the description of Hagrid in Azkaban becomes especially harrowing. He wasn't there for very long, but the presence of the Dementors made him relive his worst memories: The death of his father, the abandonment of his mother, being expelled from Hogwarts, etc. It wasn't until he left that he returned to his usual jovial self. His terror of the place partly informs why he doesn't just help Buckbeak escape into the wild.
-->"I can't ever go back to Azkaban..."
* [[spoiler:Buckbeak's execution by the Ministry of Magic]] Magic]], especially with Hagrid's friends nearby and powerless to help. [[spoiler: Thank heaven -- and [[spoiler:Thank Heaven--and a Time-Turner -- that Time-Turner--that they had more power to stop it than anyone realized.]]



* Harry's HopeSpot when [[spoiler:Sirius]] tells Harry he's his godfather and offers Harry the chance to move in with him, just to have it snatched away. For a brief moment it seemed his dreams were coming true and he could leave the Dursleys, just for reality to come back. No wonder he was so despondent despite [[spoiler:saving Sirius and Buckbeak's life]].
* Hagrid losing his confidence because of the incident with Buckbeak. Even worse is how [[JerkAss Malfoy]] did it ''on purpose!''

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* Harry's HopeSpot when [[spoiler:Sirius]] Sirius tells Harry he's his godfather and offers Harry him the chance to move in with him, just to have it snatched away. For a brief moment moment, it seemed his dreams were coming true and he could leave the Dursleys, just for reality to come back. No wonder he was so despondent despite [[spoiler:saving Sirius and Buckbeak's life]].
* Hagrid losing his confidence because of the incident with Buckbeak. Even worse is how [[JerkAss Malfoy]] did it ''on purpose!''
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* In the film, Gary Oldman's portrayal of Sirius seems, for the most part, rather {{Narm}}y. However, when he screams "I DID MY WAITING! TWELVE YEARS OF IT! IN AZKABAN!", it becomes clear how broken he is.
* While Harry obviously has the hardest time of the trio (in dealing with the fact that a mass murderer is out to get him and said murderer was his parents best friend), Ron and Hermione don't have it great either. Ron is dealing with the fact that his pet (unaware of its actual identity) is supposedly dying, something he doesn't get much sympathy for. Hermione, meanwhile, has been taking more lessons than usual. She's no doubt struggling under all the pressure, and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
* In the film, Remus' wolf form starts whimpering and giving Hermione an exceedingly pitiful look before fully succumbing to his feral state and howling furiously. It's almost as though, for a brief moment, the kindly teacher is aware of what he's become and [[ApologeticAttacker truly regrets what he's about to do to his students]].
** Also before the transformation, Sirius is seen holding Remus and anxiously asking if he took his medication and trying to soothe him. It feels like a good friend trying to help their own friend through a medical episode or attack, hoping it's not fatal.
* During Harry's first tutoring session with the dementor!boggart, Harry hears his mother and father's voice for the first time in a decade. When Harry tells Lupin about it, he freezes and whispers, "You heard James?" He must have missed his best friend so much.
* To go with the above, early in the book, Lupin stops Harry from facing the boggart on the assumption that it will take the form of Lord Voldemort. He nonchalantly states that such a thing would cause quite a ruckus and would thus not be a good idea. However, Harry greatly resembles his father James, Lupin's best friend...who Voldemort murdered. It's quite likely that Lupin jumped in as quickly as he did because he was also trying to prevent having to see what would essentially be a near-reenactment of the night James died.
* JK Rowling intended the Dementors to represent clinical depression, so the description of Hagrid in Azkaban becomes especially harrowing. He wasn't there for very long, but the presence of the Dementors made him relive his worst memories: the death of his father, the abandonment of his mother, being expelled from Hogwarts, etc. It wasn't until he left that he returned to his usual jovial self. His terror of the place partly informs why he doesn't just help Buckbeak escape into the wild. "I can't ever go back to Azkaban..."

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!!The Film
* In Harry ''cries'' for the film, Gary Oldman's first time (''ever'', seeing he hadn't cried in the books yet even, aside from drying his eyes around Dumbledore and Lupin).
-->'''Harry''': He was their friend...and he betrayed him... [[SuddenlyShouting HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!]]
** Made even worse that Harry practically wishes death on his godfather for something he didn't do [[spoiler:which is, betraying and killing his parents]].
* Creator/GaryOldman's
portrayal of Sirius seems, for the most part, rather {{Narm}}y. However, when he screams "I DID MY WAITING! TWELVE YEARS OF IT! IN AZKABAN!", it becomes clear how broken he is.
* While Harry obviously has the hardest time of the trio (in dealing with the fact that a mass murderer is out to get him and said murderer was his parents best friend), Ron and Hermione don't have it great either. Ron is dealing with the fact that his pet (unaware of its actual identity) is supposedly dying, something he doesn't get much sympathy for. Hermione, meanwhile, has been taking more lessons than usual. She's no doubt struggling under all the pressure, and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
* In the film, Remus'
[[spoiler:Lupin's]] wolf form starts whimpering and giving Hermione an exceedingly pitiful look before fully succumbing to his feral state and howling furiously. It's almost as though, for a brief moment, the kindly teacher is aware of what he's become and [[ApologeticAttacker truly regrets what he's about to do to his students]].
** Also before the transformation, Sirius is seen holding Remus [[spoiler:Lupin]] and anxiously asking if he took his medication and trying to soothe him. It feels like a good friend trying to help their own friend through a medical episode or attack, hoping it's not fatal.
* During Harry's first tutoring session with the dementor!boggart, Harry hears his mother and father's voice for the first time in a decade. When Harry tells Lupin about it, he freezes and whispers, "You heard James?" He must have missed his best friend so much.
* To go with the above, early in the book, Lupin stops Harry from facing the boggart on the assumption that it will take the form of Lord Voldemort. He nonchalantly states that such a thing would cause quite a ruckus and would thus not be a good idea. However, Harry greatly resembles his father James, Lupin's best friend...who Voldemort murdered. It's quite likely that Lupin jumped in as quickly as he did because he was also trying to prevent having to see what would essentially be a near-reenactment of the night James died.
* JK Rowling intended the Dementors to represent clinical depression, so the description of Hagrid in Azkaban becomes especially harrowing. He wasn't there for very long, but the presence of the Dementors made him relive his worst memories: the death of his father, the abandonment of his mother, being expelled from Hogwarts, etc. It wasn't until he left that he returned to his usual jovial self. His terror of the place partly informs why he doesn't just help Buckbeak escape into the wild. "I can't ever go back to Azkaban..."
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25th Feb '17 11:01:21 AM Patcher
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* While Harry obviously has the hardest time of the trio (in dealing with the fact that a mass murderer is out to get him and said murderer was his parents best friend), Ron and Hermione don't have it great either. Ron is dealing with the fact that his pet (unaware of it's actual identity) is supposedly dying, something he doesn't get much sympathy for. Hermione, meanwhile, has been taking more lessons than usual. She's no doubt struggling under all the pressure, and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!

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* While Harry obviously has the hardest time of the trio (in dealing with the fact that a mass murderer is out to get him and said murderer was his parents best friend), Ron and Hermione don't have it great either. Ron is dealing with the fact that his pet (unaware of it's its actual identity) is supposedly dying, something he doesn't get much sympathy for. Hermione, meanwhile, has been taking more lessons than usual. She's no doubt struggling under all the pressure, and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
26th Nov '16 12:17:38 PM localvagrant
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** Yet another tear-jerky item regarding the Patronus comes at the climax of the story - Harry after the time jump sees himself and Sirius being consumed by the Dementors, and Harry is waiting for his father to come and save him. He realizes his dad isn't coming and casts the Patronus himself. It's a really powerful scene with that in mind.
25th Aug '16 1:52:20 AM Sayacha
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* To go with the above, early in the book, Lupin stops Harry from facing the boggart on the assumption that it will take the form of Lord Voldemort. He nonchalantly states that such a thing would cause quite a ruckus and would thus not be a good idea. However, Harry greatly resembles his father James, Lupin's best friend...who Voldemort murdered. It's quite likely that Lupin jumped in as quickly as he did because he was also trying to prevent having to see what would essentially be a near-reenactment of the night James died.
2nd Jun '16 10:47:24 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VitriolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!

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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at While Harry obviously has the end hardest time of the novel) SanitySlippage because trio (in dealing with the fact that a mass murderer is out to get him and said murderer was his parents best friend), Ron and Hermione don't have it great either. Ron is dealing with the fact that his pet (unaware of how it's actual identity) is supposedly dying, something he doesn't get much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking sympathy for. Hermione, meanwhile, has been taking more lessons than usual. She's no doubt struggling under all the pressure. Add in [[VitriolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), pressure, and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
4th May '16 9:45:12 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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* In the film, Harry ''cries'' for the first time. "He was their friend...and he betrayed him... [[SuddenlyShouting HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!]]" Made even worse that Harry practically wishes death on his godfather for something he didn't do [[spoiler: which is, betraying and killing his parents.]]

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* In the film, Harry ''cries'' for the first time.time (''ever'', seeing he hadn't cried in the books yet even, aside from drying his eyes around Dumbledore and Lupin). "He was their friend...and he betrayed him... [[SuddenlyShouting HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!]]" Made even worse that Harry practically wishes death on his godfather for something he didn't do [[spoiler: which is, betraying and killing his parents.]]
3rd May '16 4:30:04 PM Teenlyokofan7777
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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtriolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!

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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtriolicBestBuds [[VitriolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
3rd May '16 4:29:01 PM Teenlyokofan7777
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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtrolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!

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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtrolicBestBuds [[VirtriolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
3rd May '16 4:27:57 PM Teenlyokofan7777
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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtrolicBestBus her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!

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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtrolicBestBus [[VirtrolicBestBuds her spats with Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
28th Apr '16 4:13:14 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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* A rather subtle, but effective, moment comes in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' when Harry catches himself half-hoping to be overwhelmed by a Dementor since, horrible as the experience is, it's the only time he's ever heard his parent's voices. Mind you, this becomes FridgeHorror when you learn that [[spoiler: Harry has a piece of Voldemort inside him]] and realize that [[spoiler: it isn’t ''Harry’s'' memory of his father telling Lily to take Harry and run, and neither is the one of Lily screaming...it's Voldemort's]].

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* A rather subtle, but effective, moment comes in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' when Harry catches himself half-hoping ''almost hoping to be overwhelmed by a Dementor Dementor'' since, horrible as the experience is, it's the only time he's ever heard his parent's voices. Mind you, this becomes FridgeHorror when you learn that [[spoiler: Harry has a piece of Voldemort inside him]] and realize that [[spoiler: it isn’t ''Harry’s'' memory of his father telling Lily to take Harry and run, and neither is the one of Lily screaming...it's Voldemort's]].



* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in her spats with Harry and Ron, her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends, and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!

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* Hermione's (relatively minor and thankfully averted at the end of the novel) SanitySlippage because of how much work she's taken on. She loves school and she loves learning and she wants to remain top of every class, but the poor girl is clearly cracking under all the pressure. Add in [[VirtrolicBestBus her spats with Harry and Ron, Ron]], her trying to help Hagrid defend Buckbeak, and the fear of a mass-murderer being on the loose and after one of her best friends, friends (which Harry himself is having to deal with), and it's frankly a miracle she's still sane by the end of the year!
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