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** It's also pretty much a completely senseless death - [[spoiler: Ammon Jerro believed all his relations had died, and he needs the Knight-Commander alive anyway to complete the ritual to undo the King of Shadows - while to this point, Ammon Jerro has been framed as an antagonistic, he's about to join the party, because the Knight-Commander needs him and he needs the Knight-Commander. The ONLY reason the party enters the Haven is because they believe that Ammon himself is their enemy, and that "Ammon Jerro" is just Shandra's dead relative who is their only lead on the King of Shadows. So if he'd just stopped to TALK, or even to ask how they entered the Haven in the first place, instead of simply attacking the party on sight, or even just had stopped to ask the obvious question of how she COULD release the demons sealed away, her death could have been averted entirely.]] PoorCommunicationKills, indeed.
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you can't just say "nuff said" and then follow with three paragraphs lmao
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** Grobnar's line [[spoiler:when you find her corpse]] will punch you right in the gut. He just sounds so heartbroken and desperate.
--->'''Grobnar:''' I'm sorry, but--[[spoiler:Shandra? Shandra]], [[PleaseWakeUp please get up.]] You see, we've won, really. We've come all this way to save you, and we got here just in time...haven't we?
--->'''Grobnar:''' I'm sorry, but--[[spoiler:Shandra? Shandra]], [[PleaseWakeUp please get up.]] You see, we've won, really. We've come all this way to save you, and we got here just in time...haven't we?
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* Ammon's and Gann's eventual fates. Ammon will likely [[spoiler: be dragged to the lower planes when he dies because of all his DealWithTheDevil moments in his quest to stop The King of Shadows]]. And Gann will most likely [[spoiler: end up on the wall for being a FlatEarthAtheist who is implied to stay that way even if he's romanced by a cleric PC in the best ending. The best outcome for him is to pledge himself to you in the "bind Akashi" ending]].ending, which is [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]] at best]].
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* [[spoiler:Neeshka's betrayal]]. All three are pretty tragic: [[spoiler:the one where she turns on you because you've neglected her, the one where she's ''forced'' to turn on you, screaming out tearful apologies all the while, or the one where [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments she manages to break through the control to join the first person to ever show her kindness - you]]]].
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* Ammon's and Gann's eventual fates. Ammon will likely [[spoiler: be dragged to the lower planes when he dies because of all his DealWithTheDevil moments in his quest to stop The King of Shadow]]. Shadows]]. And Gann will most likely [[spoiler: end up on the wall for being an a FlatEarthAtheist who is implied to stay that way even if he's romanced by a cleric PC in the best ending. The best outcome for him is to pledge himself to you in the bind Akashi "bind Akashi" ending]].
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* Ammon's and Gann's eventual fates. Ammon will likely [[spoiler: be dragged to the lower planes when he dies because of all his DealWithTheDevil moments in his quest to stop The King of Shadow]]. And Gann will most likely [[spoiler: end up on the wall for being an FlatEarthAtheist and who is implied to stay that way even if he's romanced to by a cleric PC in the best ending. The best outcome for him is to plegde pledge himself to you in the bind Akashi ending]].
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* Gannayev's backstory. He is a child of a night hag, [[spoiler: who fell in love with a human, and when she refused to kill his father, her sisters of the coven made her eat her husband, which drove her crazy. Gann is shocked when he finds out the truth. Thankfully, you can exact vengeance on the coven.]]
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* Ammon's and Gann's eventual fates. Ammon will likely [[spoiler: be dragged to the lower planes when he dies because of all his DealWithTheDevil moments in his quest to stop The King of Shadow]]. And Gann will most likely [[spoiler: end up on the wall for being an FlatEarthAtheist and is implied to stay that way even if he's romanced to a cleric PC in the best ending. The best outcome for him is to plegde himself to you in the bind Akashi ending]].
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* [[spoiler:Neeshka's betrayal]]. This troper isn't sure which version is the most tear-inducing: [[spoiler:the one where she turns on you because you've neglected her, the one where she's ''forced'' to turn on you, screaming out tearful apologies all the while, or the one where [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming she manages to break through the control to join the first person to ever show her kindness - you]]]].
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* [[spoiler:Neeshka's betrayal]]. This troper isn't sure which version is the most tear-inducing: All three are pretty tragic: [[spoiler:the one where she turns on you because you've neglected her, the one where she's ''forced'' to turn on you, screaming out tearful apologies all the while, or the one where [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming she manages to break through the control to join the first person to ever show her kindness - you]]]].
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* Shandra Jerro's brutal, torturous death at the hands of her own grandfather. 'Nuff said.
* Neeshka in the betrayal scene of ''NeverwinterNights2''. This troper isn't sure which version is the most tear-inducing: the one where she turns on you because you've neglected her, the one where she's ''forced'' to turn on you, screaming out tearful apologies all the while, or the one where she manages to break through the control to join the first person to ever show her kindness - you.
* Neeshka in the betrayal scene of ''NeverwinterNights2''. This troper isn't sure which version is the most tear-inducing: the one where she turns on you because you've neglected her, the one where she's ''forced'' to turn on you, screaming out tearful apologies all the while, or the one where she manages to break through the control to join the first person to ever show her kindness - you.
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* Shandra [[spoiler:Shandra Jerro's brutal, torturous death at the hands of her own grandfather.grandfather]]. 'Nuff said.
* Neeshka in ** Especially since the betrayal scene of ''NeverwinterNights2''. party shows up ''seconds'' after [[spoiler:he deals the killing blow]], subverting the BigDamnHeroes trope to Hell and back and probably leaving the Knight-Commander wondering whether [[spoiler:they could have saved her]], if they'd just been a little bit faster.
* [[spoiler:Neeshka's betrayal]]. This troper isn't sure which version is the most tear-inducing:the [[spoiler:the one where she turns on you because you've neglected her, the one where she's ''forced'' to turn on you, screaming out tearful apologies all the while, or the one where [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming she manages to break through the control to join the first person to ever show her kindness - you.you]]]].
* [[spoiler:Neeshka's betrayal]]. This troper isn't sure which version is the most tear-inducing:
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* Shandra Jerro's brutal, torturous death at the hands of her own grandfather. 'Nuff said.
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* Bishop's eventual fate to this troper.fate. Despite all his bravado about it, it's pretty clear that [[spoiler:he's ''terrified'' by the thought of being essentially erased from existence]].
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* When Neeshka comes to visit you before the trial, she'll offer to cheat by rubbing acid on Lorne's weapons and armor. It doesn't really matter ''how'' Lawful you are: you ''will'' let her do it, because the alternative is hearing her say the following in the voice of a child who's been told their drawing isn't good enough to go on the fridge:
-->'''Neeshka''':All right. I mean, I only had to steal the acid out of Sand's shop and avoid his wards, but if you don't need it, you don't need it. Or me.
-->'''Neeshka''':All right. I mean, I only had to steal the acid out of Sand's shop and avoid his wards, but if you don't need it, you don't need it. Or me.
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