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** During his Padawan days, Jolee fell in love with a woman named Nayama, who helped him escape from her tyrannical home-world. As fate would have it, she was strong in the Force, and Jolee wanted her to become a Jedi like himself. However, the Jedi Council denied their request since Nayama was too old to begin Jedi Training. Undeterred, Jolee (despite only being a Padawan at this point) took it upon himself to train his wife in the ways of the force, effectively disobeying the Council's wishes. Both were happy, and all seemed right. [[spoiler: But everything changed with the arrival of the Jedi-turned-Sith Lord Exar Kun. Nayama was inspired by Kun's desired to create a new Golden Age for the Sith, and pleaded her husband to abandon the Jedi. When Jolee refused and begged his wife to reconsider, Nayama snapped & truly fell to the darkside; she pulled out her lightsaber and tried to kill her husband, and a duel between the two occured with Jolee emerging victorious. Despite having her at his mercy, Jolee could not bring himself to kill the woman he loved, and let her go. This turned out to be a horrible mistake on Jolee's part. Nayama then joined Kun, and as a Sith she would go on to kill many Jedi in the Exar Kun War. She was finally defeated & slain during the war's final battle]]. All of this brought much guilt & shame to Jolee that continues to haunt him.

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** During his Padawan days, Jolee fell in love with a woman named Nayama, who helped him escape from her tyrannical home-world. As fate would have it, she was strong in the Force, and Jolee wanted her to become a Jedi like himself. However, the Jedi Council denied their request since Nayama was too old to begin Jedi Training. Undeterred, Jolee (despite only being a Padawan at this point) took it upon himself to train his wife in the ways of the force, effectively disobeying the Council's wishes. Both were happy, and all seemed right. [[spoiler: But everything changed with the arrival of the Jedi-turned-Sith Lord Exar Kun. Nayama was inspired by Kun's desired desire to create a new Golden Age for the Sith, and pleaded her husband to abandon the Jedi. When Jolee refused and begged his wife to reconsider, Nayama snapped & truly fell to the darkside; Dark Side; she pulled out her lightsaber and tried to kill her husband, and a duel between the two occured occurred with Jolee emerging victorious. Despite having her at his mercy, Jolee could not bring himself to kill the woman he loved, and let her go. This turned out to be a horrible mistake on Jolee's part. Nayama then joined Kun, and as a Sith she would go on to kill many Jedi in the Exar Kun War. She was finally defeated & slain during the war's final battle]]. All of this brought much guilt & shame to Jolee that continues to haunt him.
** After this, the Jedi Council put Jolee on trial for his actions, since he disobeyed their requests to train Nayama, despite still being only a Padawan, [[spoiler: and failed to stop her when he had the chance, which led to the deaths of many within the order]]. Jolee fully expected himself to be punished by the Order, however [[spoiler: they found him innocent. They told him that he learned wisdom the hard way, and thus was now worthy to become a full-fledged Jedi Knight]]. Because of the guilt and shame Jolee had for his actions, he knew that [[spoiler: he deserved to be punished for his choices, but the Council decided to let it slide and promote him instead. It was this moment that Jolee lost his faith in the Jedi Order and abandoned them]].
--->'''Jolee''': That... that was when the Jedi left me. That is when they failed me. [[spoiler: They may have been able to forgive me. I... could never forgive myself]].
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* Jolee Bindo has one when you learn about the story of him & his wife, as well as why he left the Jedi Order.
** During his Padawan days, Jolee fell in love with a woman named Nayama, who helped him escape from her tyrannical home-world. As fate would have it, she was strong in the Force, and Jolee wanted her to become a Jedi like himself. However, the Jedi Council denied their request since Nayama was too old to begin Jedi Training. Undeterred, Jolee (despite only being a Padawan at this point) took it upon himself to train his wife in the ways of the force, effectively disobeying the Council's wishes. Both were happy, and all seemed right. [[spoiler: But everything changed with the arrival of the Jedi-turned-Sith Lord Exar Kun. Nayama was inspired by Kun's desired to create a new Golden Age for the Sith, and pleaded her husband to abandon the Jedi. When Jolee refused and begged his wife to reconsider, Nayama snapped & truly fell to the darkside; she pulled out her lightsaber and tried to kill her husband, and a duel between the two occured with Jolee emerging victorious. Despite having her at his mercy, Jolee could not bring himself to kill the woman he loved, and let her go. This turned out to be a horrible mistake on Jolee's part. Nayama then joined Kun, and as a Sith she would go on to kill many Jedi in the Exar Kun War. She was finally defeated & slain during the war's final battle]]. All of this brought much guilt & shame to Jolee that continues to haunt him.
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* Likewise, it's very easy to botch the Dustil quest, causing the kid to lose his temper and you have to kill him in self defense. Carth is completely devastated and apologizes for being a bad father. Moreover, Carth blames you if Dustil gets killed, suggesting you could have done ''something'' to save his son.

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* Likewise, it's very easy to botch the Dustil quest, causing the kid to lose his temper and you have to kill him in self defense.self-defense. Carth is completely devastated and apologizes for being a bad father. Moreover, Carth blames you if Dustil gets killed, suggesting you could have done ''something'' to save his son.



--->'''Malak''': ''I wanted to be Master of the Sith and ruler of the galaxy. But that destiny was not mine, Revan. It might have been yours, perhaps...but [[AlwaysSecondBest never mine.]] And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.''

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--->'''Malak''': ''I wanted to be Master of the Sith and ruler of the galaxy. But that destiny was not mine, Revan. It might have been yours, perhaps... but [[AlwaysSecondBest never mine.]] And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.''



* One particular music track which can hit like a sack of bricks is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, and reach the unknown planet with all its dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the Dark Side tragically moving.

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* One particular music track which can hit like a sack of bricks is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, Star Map, and reach the unknown planet Unknown World with all its dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the Dark Side tragically moving.



* If you play Dark Side, the fact you have to [[https://youtu.be/vMrcYBfNezE?t=198 kill most of your party.]] The one that hits hardest is Mission. She still insists there's good in you and that you won't hurt her. Bastila mocks her and she ends up dead by your hand. Yes, your MoralEventHorizon is killing a teenage girl who did nothing wrong but believe you weren't past redemption. So, how are those Dark Side points? If you are a complete and total bastard, you can order Zaalbar to kill her -- which he does. He'll turn against you, knowing he'll probably lose, and Revan will mercilessly cut him down too.

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* If you play Dark Side, the fact you have to [[https://youtu.be/vMrcYBfNezE?t=198 kill most of your party.]] The one that hits hardest is Mission. She still insists there's good in you and that you won't hurt her. Bastila mocks her and she ends up dead by your hand. Yes, your MoralEventHorizon is killing a teenage girl who did nothing wrong but believe you weren't past beyond redemption. So, how are those Dark Side points? If you are a complete and total bastard, you can order Zaalbar to kill her -- which he does. He'll turn against you, knowing he'll probably lose, and Revan will mercilessly cut him down too.
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* Another Juhani one. you can encounter Dak Vessar, who was a Padawan alongside Juhani, and a friend of hers. He confessed that he loved her, but she couldn't return those feelings due to IncompatibleOrientation, and apparently he didn't get the memo that she was a lesbian. She tries to plead with him that it really was a misunderstanding and she still cares about him, but he's too angry to listen. The best you get is him leaving the Sith and go his own way.

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* Another Juhani one. you You can encounter Dak Vessar, Vesser, who was a Padawan alongside Juhani, and a friend of hers. He confessed that he loved her, but she couldn't return those feelings due to IncompatibleOrientation, and apparently he didn't get the memo that she was a lesbian. She tries to plead with him that it really was a misunderstanding and she still cares about him, but he's too angry to listen. The best you get is him leaving the Sith and go his own way.
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** Not only did the Council know exactly what had happened the whole time and do absolutely nothing to help her, they blatantly use Juhani as a test for the brainwashed Darth Revan, just to see what they do. And if you choose to kill her...they don't really seem to care that much. And Juhani [[BrokenBird genuinely believes that it was all justified and entirely her fault.]]

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** Not only did the Council know exactly what had happened the whole time and do absolutely nothing to help her, they blatantly use Juhani as a test for the brainwashed Darth Revan, just to see what they they’ll do. And if you choose to kill her... they don't really seem to care that much. And Juhani [[BrokenBird genuinely believes that it was all justified and entirely her fault.]]
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* When you're about to deliver the rakghoul serum to the infected outcasts, three of them immediately mutate just moments away from being cured. It is heartbreaking to kill them knowing that you were just a few seconds late from saving them.

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* When you're about to deliver the rakghoul serum to the infected outcasts, Outcasts, three of them immediately mutate just moments away from being cured. It is heartbreaking to kill them knowing that you were just a few seconds late from saving them.
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* The destruction of Taris and Dantooine, especially once you see the sequels. Everyone you helped, hurt, or just talked to are gone. Three hundred years later, Taris is little more than a [[BleakLevel rakghoul infested swamp]], the Republic efforts to rebuild it come to nothing, and the Empire swoops in and finishes it off. Plus, even the HopeSpot you get if you complete the Promised Land quest light side is turned into such an utter case of ShootTheShaggyDog that it's tempting to fork over the journals to Igear because that would have been a fast death for the poor bastards.

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* The destruction of Taris and Dantooine, especially once you see the sequels. Everyone you helped, hurt, or just talked to are gone. Three hundred years later, Taris is little more than a [[BleakLevel rakghoul infested swamp]], the Republic efforts to rebuild it come to nothing, and the Empire swoops in and finishes it off. Plus, even the HopeSpot you get if you complete the Promised Land quest light side Light Side is turned into such an utter case of ShootTheShaggyDog that it's tempting to fork over the journals to Igear because that would have been a fast death for the poor bastards.



** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her]], who [[WhatTheHellHero calls you out on it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.]]

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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her]], who [[WhatTheHellHero calls you out on it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.Dark Side.]]
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->Malak: ''I wanted to be Master of the Sith and ruler of the galaxy. But that destiny was not mine, Revan. It might have been yours, perhaps...but [[AlwaysSecondBest never mine.]] And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.''

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->Malak: --->'''Malak''': ''I wanted to be Master of the Sith and ruler of the galaxy. But that destiny was not mine, Revan. It might have been yours, perhaps...but [[AlwaysSecondBest never mine.]] And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.''

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* Darth Malak of all people has a moment. Right before he dies he finally lets go of all his anger and lust for power and sadly admits that in spite of all his boasting, part of him always knew he was nothing but a pretender chasing a destiny that was never his and that in the end he never amounted to anything.

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* Darth Malak of all people has a moment. [[AlasPoorVillain Right before he dies dies]] he finally lets go of all his anger and lust for power and sadly admits that in spite of all his boasting, part of him always knew he was nothing but a pretender chasing a destiny that was never his and that in the end he never amounted to anything.anything.
->Malak: ''I wanted to be Master of the Sith and ruler of the galaxy. But that destiny was not mine, Revan. It might have been yours, perhaps...but [[AlwaysSecondBest never mine.]] And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing.''
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* If you play Dark Side, the fact you have to [[https://youtu.be/vMrcYBfNezE?t=198 kill most of your party.]] The one that hits hardest is Mission. She still insists there's good in you and that you won't hurt her. Bastila mocks her and she ends up dead by your hand. Yes, your MoralEventHorizon is killing a teenage girl who did nothing wrong but believe you weren't past redemption. So, how are those Dark Side points? If you are a complete and total bastard, you can order Zaalbar do kill her -- which he does. He'll turn against you, knowing he'll probably lose, and Revan will mercilessly cut him down too.

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* If you play Dark Side, the fact you have to [[https://youtu.be/vMrcYBfNezE?t=198 kill most of your party.]] The one that hits hardest is Mission. She still insists there's good in you and that you won't hurt her. Bastila mocks her and she ends up dead by your hand. Yes, your MoralEventHorizon is killing a teenage girl who did nothing wrong but believe you weren't past redemption. So, how are those Dark Side points? If you are a complete and total bastard, you can order Zaalbar do to kill her -- which he does. He'll turn against you, knowing he'll probably lose, and Revan will mercilessly cut him down too.
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* One particular music track which can hit like a sack of bricks is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, and reach the unknown planet with all it's dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the Dark Side tragically moving.

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* One particular music track which can hit like a sack of bricks is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, and reach the unknown planet with all it's its dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the Dark Side tragically moving.
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* The devastation of Serocco. We see it from the point of view of the Republic Fleet in orbit, as dosens upon dosens of mandalorian warheads ram into the populated planets, targeting cities of innocent people. There's no sound effect, just the visual of dosens of mushroom clouds rising from the surface. Zayne screams "The people! The people!", hide Jedi over the entire galaxy feels the pain of an entire people dying. Revan, systems away, can do nothing but whisper "I feel it".

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* The devastation of Serocco. We see it from the point of view of the Republic Fleet fleet in orbit, as dosens dozens upon dosens dozens of mandalorian Mandalorian nuclear warheads ram into strike the populated planets, targeting planet, annihilating cities of innocent people. There's no sound effect, just the visual of dosens dozens of mushroom clouds rising from the surface. Zayne screams collapses, screaming "The people! The people!", hide and every single Jedi over across the entire galaxy feels the pain of an entire people dying. Revan, many star systems away, can do nothing but whisper "I feel it".it" while clutching their chest in pain. For bonus tearjerker points: the Jedi Exile is canonically one of the few survivors of the bombardment. One can imagine that living through the devastation of Serroco put them a long step closer to their actions at Malachor V.
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* Likewise, it's very easy to botch the Dustil quest, causing the kid to lose his temper and you have to kill him in self defense. Carth is completely devastated and apologizes for being a bad father.

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* Likewise, it's very easy to botch the Dustil quest, causing the kid to lose his temper and you have to kill him in self defense. Carth is completely devastated and apologizes for being a bad father. Moreover, Carth blames you if Dustil gets killed, suggesting you could have done ''something'' to save his son.
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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her]], who [[YouMonster calls you out on it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.]]

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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her]], who [[YouMonster [[WhatTheHellHero calls you out on it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.]]
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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her]], who [[YouMonstercalls you out on it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.]]

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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her]], who [[YouMonstercalls [[YouMonster calls you out on it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.]]
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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to be in love with her, who calls you out on it. If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another driven to the dark side.

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** If you do kill Juhani, there's a character, heavily implied to [[YuriGenre be in love with her, her]], who calls [[YouMonstercalls you out on it. it.]] If you do it right, you see her again... at the Sith Academy, where she tries to kill you. So congrats; thanks to their method of testing, a promising Jedi is dead and another is [[FaceHeelTurn driven to the dark side.]]
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--->'''Carth:''' ''First the Jedi trick you into becoming an enemy, then they welcome you back as a friend. Can't say I approve of their training methods. ''

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--->'''Carth:''' ''First the Jedi trick you into becoming an enemy, then they welcome you back as a friend. Can't say I approve of their training methods. ''
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* If you play Dark Side, the fact you have to [[https://youtu.be/vMrcYBfNezE?t=198 kill most of your party.]] The one that hits hardest is Mission. She still insists there's good in you and that you won't hurt her. Bastila mocks her and she ends up dead by your hand. Yes, your MoralEventHorizon is killing a teenage girl who did nothing wrong but believe you weren't past redemption. So, how are those Dark Side points? If you a complete and total bastard, you can order Zaalbar do kill her -- which he does. He'll turn against you, knowing he'll probably lose, and Revan will mercilessly cut him down too.

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* If you play Dark Side, the fact you have to [[https://youtu.be/vMrcYBfNezE?t=198 kill most of your party.]] The one that hits hardest is Mission. She still insists there's good in you and that you won't hurt her. Bastila mocks her and she ends up dead by your hand. Yes, your MoralEventHorizon is killing a teenage girl who did nothing wrong but believe you weren't past redemption. So, how are those Dark Side points? If you are a complete and total bastard, you can order Zaalbar do kill her -- which he does. He'll turn against you, knowing he'll probably lose, and Revan will mercilessly cut him down too.

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