History TearJerker / InterestingTimes

** When you think about it in those terms, [[spoiler: dying before ever getting to Ankh-Morpork]] is the best possible thing that could have happened to him, because the book points out that there's ''no way'' he could get to the top solely on his own merits. Being TheAce in a culture that has stagnated as much as his has wouldn't translate into the practical skills necessary to survive in Ankh-Morpork. He'd have to buy his way in which is exactly what he wanted to avoid.

** Twoflower's daughters try to turn him away from revenge by pointing the Lord responsible for their mother's demise has no idea about it, but it makes it even ''worse'' for Twoflower. Because his wife is only a ''statistic'' to the Lord. The love of his life was a mere pawn a nobleman just discarded away in the trash, as he never bothered to think a mere common woman might have a value of her own. And Twoflower just can't accept this.

** There's a CallBack to the Colors of Magic, which featured Hrun the Barbarian. He was last seen taking control of the Wyrmberg, a stronghold with dragon riders. It's mentioned that he's now become a member of the Watch, so that he gets a pension. Noone knows what happened to him, but him having to move with the times is a sobering thought for the Horde, who are twice his age.

-->'''Rincewind''': 'I was, er, I was sorry to hear that your wife, er—'
-->'''Twoflower''': 'Things happen in war. [[spoiler:I have two dutiful daughters]].'

** When you think about it in those terms, [[spoiler: dying before ever getting to Ankh-Morpork]] is the best possible thing that could have happened to him, because the book points out that there's ''no way'' he could get to the top solely on his own merits. Being TheAce in a culture that has stagnated as much as his has wouldn't translate into the practical skills necessary to survive in Ankh-Morpork. He'd have to buy his way in which is is exactly what he wanted to avoid.

-->Rincewind opened his mouth to say something but Twoflower's bright, brittle smile froze the words in his throat."

-->"'''Rincewind''': 'I was, er, I was sorry to hear that your wife, er—'

* . Having spent virtually all his life as TheAce in whatever he sought to do and essentially controlling the Empire by proxy, Lord Hong's ultimate goal is to [[spoiler: rise to power in Ankh Morpork and play chess with [[MagnificentBastard the Patrician]]. He even spent months having spies travel to the city, carefully ordering specific pieces of clothing until he had a complete set of clothing that fit the description of a Morpork noble. Amidst his detachment from virtually everything else, Hong literally trembling with anticipation as he periodically tries on the clothes is...heartbreaking. For all the evil he's done, he practically becomes a tragic villain when you realize that he's been TheAce ever since he could walk and talk, but it doesn't matter when the populace of the Empire will grovel at the feet of anyone with a horse. He wants nothing more than to rise to power in a city where ''he has to earn his respect by his own merits'']].

* When I heard about what happens to Twoflower's wife, I had to sit down for a little bit because I'm quite a bit like Twoflower, and I know exactly how much that would hurt.
** It is the only time Rincewind has ever seen Twoflower look anything other than happy, contented and trusting. Later, of course, he [[spoiler:challenges the villainous Lord Hong to a duel to the death as payback]] -- which is also highly out of character for Twoflower. And as we all know, OOCIsSeriousBusiness.
** [[spoiler: "I have two dutiful daughters."]] That just broke my heart.
*** It's been a long time, care to provide context?
**** Here's the context in question:

** The fact that Twoflower's wife was basically caught in a crossfire just makes it even more heartbreaking. It made me think of battles in RealLife, and how civilians end up suffering the horrors of a war they probably never wanted.
* Shockingly, this troper got one for Lord Hong. Having spent virtually all his life as TheAce in whatever he sought to do and essentially controlling the Empire by proxy, his ultimate goal is to [[spoiler: rise to power in Ankh Morpork and play chess with [[MagnificentBastard the Patrician]]. He even spent months having spies travel to the city, carefully ordering specific pieces of clothing until he had a complete set of clothing that fit the description of a Morpork noble. Amidst his detachment from virtually everything else, Hong literally trembling with anticipation as he periodically tries on the clothes is...heartbreaking. For all the evil he's done, he practically becomes a tragic villain when you realize that he's been TheAce ever since he could walk and talk, but it doesn't matter when the populace of the Empire will grovel at the feet of anyone with a horse. He wants nothing more than to rise to power in a city where ''he has to earn his respect by his own merits'']]. This troper was glad that he got a [[spoiler:painless death]], because frankly, he's practically a Dark Lord in ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}''.
** When you think about it in those terms, [[spoiler: dying before ever getting to Ankh-Morpork]] is the best possible thing that could have happened to him, because the book points out that there's ''no way'' he could get to the top solely on his own merits. Being TheAce in a culture that has stagnated as much as his has wouldn't translate into the practical skills necessary to survive in Ankh-Morpork. He'd have to buy his way in, which the previous poster has pointed out is exactly what he wanted to avoid.

-->'''Twoflower''': 'Things happen in war. I have two dutiful daughters.'

* Shockingly, this troper got one for Lord Hong. Having spent virtually all his life as TheAce in whatever he sought to do and essentially controlling the Empire by proxy, his ultimate goal is to [[spoiler: rise to power in Ankh Morpork and play chess with [[MagnificentBastard the Patrician]]. He even spent months having spies travel to the city, carefully ordering specific pieces of clothing until he had a complete set of clothing that fit the description of a Morpork noble. Amidst his detachment from virtually everything else, Hong literally trembling with anticipation as he periodically tries on the clothes is...heartbreaking. For all the evil he's done, he practically becomes a tragic villain when you realize that he's been TheAce ever since he could walk and talk, but it doesn't matter when the populace of the Empire will grovel at the feet of anyone with a horse. He wants nothing more than to rise to power in a city where ''he has to earn his respect by his own merits'']]. This troper was glad that he got a [[spoiler: painless death]], because frankly, he practically a Dark Lord in {{Ravenloft}}.

* Shockingly, this troper got one for Lord Hong. Having spent virtually all his life as TheAce in whatever he sought to do and essentially controlling the Empire by proxy, his ultimate goal is to [[spoiler: rise to power in Ankh Morpork and play chess with [[MagnificentBastard the Patrician]]. He even spent months having spies travel to the city, carefully ordering specific pieces of clothing until he had a complete set of clothing that fit the description of a Morpork noble. Amidst his detachment from virtually everything else, Hong literally trembling with anticipation as he periodically tries on the clothes is...heartbreaking. For all the evil he's done, he practically becomes a tragic villain when you realize that he's been TheAce ever since he could walk and talk, but it doesn't matter when the populace of the Empire will grovel at the feet of anyone with a horse. He wants nothing more than to rise to power in a city where ''he has to earn his respect by his own merits'']]. This troper was glad that he got a [[spoiler: painless death]], because frankly, he practically a Dark Lord in {{Ravenloft}}.

** The fact that Twoflower's wife was basically caught in a crossfire just makes it even more heartbreaking. It made me think of wars in RealLife, and how civilians end up suffering the horrors of a war they probably never wanted.

** The fact that Twoflower's wife was basically caught in a crossfire just makes it even more heartbreaking. It made me think of wars in RealLife, and how civilians end up caught up in a war they probably never wanted.

** The fact that Twoflower's wife was basically caught in the crossfire between two warlords just makes it even more heartbreaking. It made me think of wars in RealLife, and how civilians get killed for causes that have nothing to do with them.

-->"Rincewind: 'I was, er, I was sorry to hear that your wife, er—'
-->Twoflower: 'Things happen in war. I have two dutiful daughters.'

** [[spoiler: "I have two faithful daughters."]] That just broke my heart.

** [[spoiler: "I have two faithful daughters."]] That just broke my heart.