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** That Trevor's implied to be more surprised and hurt by Franklin's betrayal than anything else is rather heartbreaking on its own; he clearly trusted him completely.]

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** That Trevor's implied to be more surprised and hurt by Franklin's betrayal than anything else is rather heartbreaking on its own; he clearly trusted him completely.]



* [[JerkassWoobie Trevor]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in general]], really. Think about his backstory for a while: implied abuse of an unspecified sort from his father, implied emotional and sexual abuse by his mother, the above-mentioned abandonment issues, loses his best friend first to a stripper and then to a bullet, finds out that friend has been alive and living in San Andreas, their friendship frays and tears throughout the course of the game, and in 2 of 3 possible endings, he ends up either KilledOffForReal or back where he started with Michael really dead this time. Of course you can pick the GoldenEnding, too, but that's the only ending that's not a bummer for Trevor (other than the fact that he's now without a ride since Michael and Franklin drove off, and they'd just pushed the car he arrived in off a cliff). Still, yikes. No wonder he became an AxCrazy meth addict/dealer and black market weapons dealer.

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* [[JerkassWoobie Trevor]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in general]], really. Think about his backstory for a while: implied abuse of an unspecified sort from his father, implied emotional and sexual abuse by his mother, the above-mentioned abandonment issues, loses his best friend first to a stripper and then to a bullet, finds out that friend has been alive and living in San Andreas, their friendship frays and tears throughout the course of the game, and in 2 of 3 possible endings, he ends up either KilledOffForReal [[CharacterDeath killed off]] or back where he started with Michael really dead this time. Of course you can pick the GoldenEnding, too, but that's the only ending that's not a bummer for Trevor (other than the fact that he's now without a ride since Michael and Franklin drove off, and they'd they just pushed the car he arrived in off a cliff). Still, yikes. No wonder he became an AxCrazy meth addict/dealer and black market weapons dealer.
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* Just driving around the area, many of the residences that are up for sale are foreclosures, which really hits home how bad the economy in the game has tanked.

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* Just driving around the area, many of the residences that are up for sale are foreclosures, which really hits home how bad the economy in the game - in the aftermath of the Great Recession - has tanked.
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* In the mission Caida Libre, it's hard not to feel bad for the extremely competent pilot of the target plane.

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* In the mission Caida Libre, it's hard not to feel bad for the extremely competent pilot of the target plane.plane, who does everything he can to bring down his aircraft safely, in spite of the odds.
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--> '''Ballas Member''': Hey, families got kicked outta here a long time ago!

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--> '''Ballas Member''': Hey, families Families got kicked outta here a long time ago!

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* Although it's very minor, one interaction Michael has with his daughter Tracey is him walking in on her purging in the bathroom, which might hit home for anyone suffering from bulimia. Not only is this not played for laughs, but her breaking voice really sells it:
--->''Nobody wants a fat daughter.''\\
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* In Johnny Klebitz' cameo, we are treated to seeing [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome Trevor violently stomping his head in]], and when he leaves, Ashley just collapses at Johnny's body crying.

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* In [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIVTheLostAndDamned Johnny Klebitz' Klebitz]]' cameo, we are treated to seeing [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome Trevor violently stomping his head in]], and when he leaves, Ashley just collapses at Johnny's body crying.
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* The "Funeral Party" mission scene where the Vagos mourn their fallen. Even sadder, is that ultimately the funeral was exploited to smuggle drugs.
* The fact that Ron is pretty much all alone and without ''anyone'' after Trevor became a life coach in "Smuggler's Run". Keep in mind, Ron used to be a functioning person who had a wife until he met Trevor which caused him to become the nutcase he is today...now that Trevor's out of the picture, and assuming he and Wade don't hang out, Ron is ''by himself'' with absolutely nothing, almost as if associating with Trevor was AllForNothing. The fact that the protagonist is the only active friend he has now can be depressing.
* Surprisingly enough, the Diamond Casino & Resort plotline has a couple:
** If one of the players end up driving Agatha instead of Tao's translator, she starts lamenting that she's gotten herself caught up in criminal business and going off about what she wanted to do with her life in actuality. Though it's meant to be PlayedForLaughs, it's kind of hard not to feel bad for her given that she only wants to sell and run a casino, not get involved in life-threatening situations.
** Tao's translator was clearly shook by Wei Cheng's implied death at the hands of Franklin, [[AssholeVictim even though he deserved it]]. So much so that he gets panicky every single time that [[TheDeterminator Tao]] starts to get too brave.
** The arc basically ends with [[TheBadGuyWins The Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]; Granted, the Casino ends up in the hands of [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Thornton]] instead of the late [[BigBad Avery]], but the fact still remains Tao failed. After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will by Mr. Cheng to surrender]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction at the hands of Tao and Avery, with everyone but Vincent being able to keep their jobs thanks to Thornton]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]]...this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.
* The look of disappointment Lester shows when he finds out that Georgina Cheng went back to China in the Casino Heist Mission's pre-heist intro.
* In the Cayo Perico Heist aftermath, as Miguel Madrazo calls up his father to excitedly tell him about what he and the crew he hired managed to do in Cayo Perico, and starts bringing up investment ideas, his father coldly hangs up without a single thank you or response...although brief, you can feel the look of rejection Miguel has on his face.
** Really the fact that it's not just his wife who he's nasty to...even his own son, who's doing everything he can to impress his father and show he's fit to lead the Madrazo Cartel when the time comes.
* While mainly PlayedForLaughs, just seeing Lamar's desperation to get his business off the ground and failing to during The Contract arc is kind of sad to see. Thankfully, this changes in the "Short Trips" storyline that occurs directly after Dr. Dre gets his phone back.
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--> '''Trevor''': I got the meds, Mom! Mom! I got the meds! Ma! ...''Ma?!?'' [[HeroicBSOD NO! MOTHER!]] ''(begins screaming in anguish)''
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** The entire outcome of the arc basically [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]; Granted, the Casino ends up in the hands of [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Thornton]] instead of the late [[BigBad Avery]], but still...After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction with everyone but Vincent being able to keep their jobs]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]], this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.

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** The entire outcome of the arc basically ends with [[TheBadGuyWins The Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]; Granted, the Casino ends up in the hands of [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Thornton]] instead of the late [[BigBad Avery]], but still...the fact still remains Tao failed. After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will by Mr. Cheng to surrender to them]] surrender]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction at the hands of Tao and Avery, with everyone but Vincent being able to keep their jobs]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude]], jobs thanks to Thornton]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]], on]]...this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.
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** The entire outcome of the arc basically [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]; Granted, the Casino ends up in the hands of [[LighterShadeOfBlack Thornton]] instead of the late [[BigBad Avery]], but still...After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction with everyone but Vincent being able to keep their jobs]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]], this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.

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** The entire outcome of the arc basically [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]; Granted, the Casino ends up in the hands of [[LighterShadeOfBlack [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Thornton]] instead of the late [[BigBad Avery]], but still...After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction with everyone but Vincent being able to keep their jobs]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]], this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.
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** The entire outcome of the arc basically [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]. After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]], this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.

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** The entire outcome of the arc basically [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted and the Chengs losing their Casino]]. Casino]]; Granted, the Casino ends up in the hands of [[LighterShadeOfBlack Thornton]] instead of the late [[BigBad Avery]], but still...After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction]] destruction with everyone but Vincent being able to keep their jobs]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]], this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.
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** The entire outcome of the arc basically ends up with the [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted in the first place]]; After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his Chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work through out the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially saved from pointless destruction by Tao's gung-ho attitude, [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]] and eventually constantly, this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.

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** The entire outcome of the arc basically ends up with the [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted in and the first place]]; Chengs losing their Casino]]. After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his Chagrin, chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work through out throughout the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially [[BittersweetEnding saved from pointless destruction destruction]] by [[SuicidalOverconfidence Tao's gung-ho attitude, attitude]], [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]] and eventually constantly, on]], this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.

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** Tao's translator was clearly shook by Wei Cheng's implied death at the hands of Franklin, [[AssholeVictim even though he deserved it]]. So much so that he gets panicky every single time that Tao starts to get too brave.

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** Tao's translator was clearly shook by Wei Cheng's implied death at the hands of Franklin, [[AssholeVictim even though he deserved it]]. So much so that he gets panicky every single time that Tao [[TheDeterminator Tao]] starts to get too brave.brave.
** The entire outcome of the arc basically ends up with the [[TheBadGuyWins Duggans getting what they wanted in the first place]]; After all the attempts to fight off the Duggans at Tao's request, ultimately he's [[AllForNothing forced against his will to surrender to them]] [[KnowWhenToFoldEm after a direct assault and sell off the Casino at the risk destroying it in attempting to keep it]] much to his Chagrin, Agatha is essentially scarred for life after dealing with what she's dealt with, and [[KickTheDog Vincent is fired by Thornton at the very end]] despite his hard work through out the entire arc (and he shows visible sadness at being fired). If not for the fact that the Casino that took 5 years to finish was essentially saved from pointless destruction by Tao's gung-ho attitude, [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty and Thornton eventually getting robbed by a crew organized by the Chengs in retaliation later on]] and eventually constantly, this would have been nothing short of a DownerEnding.

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** Surprisingly enough, the Diamond Casion & Resort plotline has alot of these:

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** * Surprisingly enough, the Diamond Casion Casino & Resort plotline has alot of these:a couple:


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** Tao's translator was clearly shook by Wei Cheng's implied death at the hands of Franklin, [[AssholeVictim even though he deserved it]]. So much so that he gets panicky every single time that Tao starts to get too brave.

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* If one of the players end up driving Agatha instead of Tao's translator, she starts lamenting that she's gotten herself caught up in criminal business and going off about what she wanted to do with her life in actuality. Though it's meant to be PlayedForLaughs, it's kind of hard not to feel bad for her given that she only wants to sell and run a casino, not get involved in life-threatening situations.
* The look of disappointment Lester shows when he finds out that Georgina Cheng went back to China in the Casino Heist Mission's intro.

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* ** Surprisingly enough, the Diamond Casion & Resort plotline has alot of these:
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If one of the players end up driving Agatha instead of Tao's translator, she starts lamenting that she's gotten herself caught up in criminal business and going off about what she wanted to do with her life in actuality. Though it's meant to be PlayedForLaughs, it's kind of hard not to feel bad for her given that she only wants to sell and run a casino, not get involved in life-threatening situations.
* The look of disappointment Lester shows when he finds out that Georgina Cheng went back to China in the Casino Heist Mission's pre-heist intro.
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* If one of the players end up driving Agatha instead of Tao's translator, she starts lamenting that she's gotten herself caught up in criminal business and going off about what she wanted to do with her life in actuality. Though it's meant to be PlayedForLaughs, it's kind of hard not to feel bad for her given that she only wants to sell and run a casino, not get involved in life-threatening situations.

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