History TearJerker / Frasier

21st Aug '17 7:20:59 PM Octoya
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** There's considerable FridgeHorror there--that even with Niles secretly being convinced that Martin views him as a failure, he still came to the party dressed as him. In other words, he ''still'' considers Martin to be his hero. Very akin to an abused person still desperate for love and approval from his/her abuser.
17th Jun '17 10:03:37 PM mlsmithca
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** When Niles finds out she is having an affair with their ''marriage counselor'' he is heartbroken and he realizes it's the end for them.
* "And then I ran into the bedroom, tears pouring down my face and said 'Mommy, mommy! The puppy Santa gave me for Christmas won't wake up!'" (From a caller to Frasier's radio show in Season 1's "Miracle on Third or Fourth Street".)
** "[[LampshadeHanging Okay Tom, you won the prize for the most depressing Christmas story we've heard all day.]]"
*** The runner-up had to be the guy in "The Impossible Dream" (season 4) who described a heartwrenching death he'd witnessed only to have Frasier remind him he'd resolved not to watch sad movies. [[note]]The movie in question sounded like ''Film/TheSongOfBernadette'', a three-hour TearJerker.[[/note]]
** Given the sheer bombardment of Christmas-themed misery Frasier and Roz have suffered by that point, this one also has BlackComedy points.

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** * When Niles finds out she Maris is having an affair with their ''marriage counselor'' he is heartbroken and he realizes it's the end for them.
* "And then I ran into the bedroom, tears pouring down my face and said 'Mommy, mommy! The puppy Santa gave me for Christmas won't wake up!'" (From a caller to Frasier's radio show in Season 1's "Miracle on Third or Fourth Street".)
** "[[LampshadeHanging
) Given the sheer bombardment of Christmas-themed misery Frasier and Roz have suffered by that point, this one also has BlackComedy points.
-->'''Frasier:''' [[LampshadeHanging
Okay Tom, you won the prize for the most depressing Christmas story we've heard all day.]]"
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The runner-up had to be the guy in "The Impossible Dream" (season 4) who described a heartwrenching death he'd witnessed only to have Frasier remind him he'd resolved not to watch sad movies. [[note]]The movie in question sounded like ''Film/TheSongOfBernadette'', a three-hour TearJerker.[[/note]]
** Given the sheer bombardment of Christmas-themed misery Frasier and Roz have suffered by that point, this one also has BlackComedy points.
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-->[long pause, Tewksbury looks at him sadly]

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-->[long -->''[long pause, Tewksbury looks at him sadly]sadly]''



-->'''Frasier:''' Thank you for honoring my life...... I just wish I knew what to do with the rest of it......
** Frasier's breakthrough in this episode really leads to some FridgeHorror TearJerker for the rest of the show and ''Series/{{Cheers}}''. Practically everything Frasier does is out of insecurity about himself to the point you realize he has no emotional or psychological stability. He's constantly afraid and hiding behind his profession and intellect to make himself feel good in every single moment of both shows. Even worse is his relationship and jealousy over Niles whenever he attains something he can't have, meaning that his damage has messed up his brother to a degree. I nominate Frasier Crane as WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds of the freaking century!
* In the Season 9 episode "Deathtrap," after Martin explains about "Hamster Heaven" to console Roz's daughter Alice about her dead pet, Alice asks about whether Eddie would be going to "Dog Heaven." Martin laughs and says not for a long time. But after she leaves, Martin looks somber and calls Eddie over to his lap for a hug. The look on his face as he realizes that Eddie won't be around forever made me tear up.
** RealitySubtext: Moose, the dog who originally played Eddie, was retired from regular appearances at the end of the previous season. He was getting too old to perform some of the tricks so his son, Enzo, had taken over the role.

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-->'''Frasier:''' --->'''Frasier:''' Thank you for honoring my life...... life... I just wish I knew what to do with the rest of it......
it...
** Frasier's breakthrough in this episode really leads to some FridgeHorror TearJerker for the rest of the show and ''Series/{{Cheers}}''. Practically everything Frasier does is out of insecurity about himself to the point you realize he has no emotional or psychological stability. He's constantly afraid and hiding behind his profession and intellect to make himself feel good in every single moment of both shows. Even worse is his relationship and jealousy over Niles whenever he attains something he can't have, meaning that his damage has messed up his brother to a degree. I nominate Frasier Crane as WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds of the freaking century!
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* In the Season 9 episode "Deathtrap," after Martin explains about "Hamster Heaven" to console Roz's daughter Alice about her dead pet, Alice asks about whether Eddie would be going to "Dog Heaven." Martin laughs and says not for a long time. But after she leaves, Martin looks somber and calls Eddie over to his lap for a hug. The look on his face as he realizes that Eddie won't be around forever made me tear up.
** RealitySubtext:
(RealitySubtext: Moose, the dog who originally played Eddie, was retired from regular appearances at the end of the previous season. He was getting too old to perform some of the tricks so his son, Enzo, had taken over the role.)



* Roz ending up in tears about breaking up with her boyfriend, Roger. [[spoiler: Both times.]]
** The second time is especially sad. Frasier has recently debuted in a new market (Spokane,) but the audience is hostile since he is replacing a local legend. Frasier has Roz pretend to call in and fake a problem. In doing so, her insistence that she's perfectly fine shatters and she breaks down on the air.

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* Roz ending up in tears about breaking up with her boyfriend, Roger. [[spoiler: Both times.]]
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]] The second time is especially sad. Frasier has recently debuted in a new market (Spokane,) but the audience is hostile since he is replacing a local legend. Frasier has Roz pretend to call in and fake a problem. In doing so, her insistence that she's perfectly fine shatters and she breaks down on the air.



** After being left at the altar, you see Donny breaking down and "making friends" with the groom on the cake, named "Mr. Chump", while repeatedly trying to sue Daphne and Frasier to ease his heartbreak. Over the course of the show he's later seen getting into multiples serious relationships far too fast as a result of being on the rebound, and outright admitting (in front of his newest partner) that he will never find someone as good as Daphne. It's played for laughs by that point, but we need only look towards his touching romance with Daphne in earlier seasons to know that he really did love her.
** Mel, although at first glance looking like just another Maris in Niles' life, also clearly loved him when they were together. She even says to Daphne, in a bittersweet CrowningMomentofHeartwarming, that she wants to be that person Niles trusts enough to help him be everything he ever wanted--showing that her manipulation of him, while still ultimately not good for Niles, was for his sake and not just because she's selfish like Maris was. Niles, in return, discards her the minute he thinks Daphne may have feelings for him and they break up after four days married. That heartbreak is a big part of why she becomes so cruel towards him later.
-->'''Mel''': NO! ''*Bangs hard on the table*'' I promised myself I wouldn't cry.

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** After being left at the altar, you see Donny breaking down and "making friends" with the groom on the cake, named "Mr. Chump", while repeatedly trying to sue Daphne and Frasier to ease his heartbreak. Over the course of the show he's later seen getting into multiples multiple serious relationships far too fast as a result of being on the rebound, and outright admitting (in front of his newest partner) that he will never find someone as good as Daphne. It's played for laughs by that point, but we need only look towards his touching romance with Daphne in earlier seasons to know that he really did love her.
** Mel, although at first glance looking like just another Maris in Niles' life, also clearly loved him when they were together. She even says to Daphne, in a bittersweet CrowningMomentofHeartwarming, SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}, that she wants to be that person Niles trusts enough to help him be everything he ever wanted--showing that her manipulation of him, while still ultimately not good for Niles, was for his sake and not just because she's selfish like Maris was. Niles, in return, discards her the minute he thinks Daphne may have feelings for him and they break up after four days married. That heartbreak is a big part of why she becomes so cruel towards him later.
-->'''Mel''': --->'''Mel''': NO! ''*Bangs ''[Bangs hard on the table*'' table]'' I promised myself I wouldn't cry.



* Frasier's "therapy" session with Eddie in "Back Talk" counts as both this and a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, as it's both an insight into how lonely and unhappy he is deep down ''and'' how much he has come to genuinely value Daphne's companionship and friendship. (And, of course, since Daphne only hears the last bit and completely misinterprets it, it arguably becomes funny again as well.)

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* Frasier's "therapy" session with Eddie in "Back Talk" counts as both this and a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, Heartwarming Moment, as it's both an insight into how lonely and unhappy he is deep down ''and'' how much he has come to genuinely value Daphne's companionship and friendship. (And, of course, since Daphne only hears the last bit and completely misinterprets it, it arguably becomes funny again as well.)
15th Mar '17 8:27:11 AM DoctorNemesis
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* In season 3's "Moon Dance," Daphne attends a ball with Niles to prove to his friends that he is over Maris. In the heat of a very passionate dance, Niles admits that he adores her. She says the same back to him and they share their first kiss. When they sit down, Niles is positively glowing until Daphne says, "I had no idea you were such a good actor." The way his face slowly falls as the realization dawns on him is crushing.

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* In season 3's "Moon Dance," Daphne attends a ball with Niles to prove to his friends that he is over Maris. In the heat of a very passionate dance, Niles admits that he adores her. She says the same back to him and they share their first kiss. When they sit down, Niles is positively glowing until Daphne says, "I had no idea you were such a good actor." The way his face slowly falls as the realization dawns on him is crushing.crushing.
* Frasier's "therapy" session with Eddie in "Back Talk" counts as both this and a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, as it's both an insight into how lonely and unhappy he is deep down ''and'' how much he has come to genuinely value Daphne's companionship and friendship. (And, of course, since Daphne only hears the last bit and completely misinterprets it, it arguably becomes funny again as well.)
-->'''Frasier:''' Do ''you'' want to know what's bothering me? Well, here's a start: [[Funny/{{Frasier}} I'm talking to a dog, that bothers me]]. I'm another year older today. I suppose that bothers me. Though not as much as people seem to think. ''[Increasingly maudlin]'' I'm still single. That's a big one. Not having a woman to share my life with. The only women in my life are friends: Roz and Daphne. Daphne's not even here anymore, she'll be married soon. That's going to be tough on Dad... who am I kidding. It's going to be tough on me. It's been nice having her here. Even when my love life hasn't been going so well, I can always come home to a warm and considerate woman. You know, that's probably why I've been so brusque with her lately: I know that once she's gone, I'll probably be twice as lonely. Well, it's quite a realization isn't it? I really do love Daphne and I'm about to lose her. I've got to show her how I feel about her, while I still have the chance.
11th Mar '17 11:52:42 AM Darkmage7280
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** That was the most depressing thing this troper ever saw on Live Action TV. It's ''heartbreaking''.
23rd Dec '16 8:03:59 PM LBHills
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* "Don Juan in Hell", the episode where Frasier openly acknowledges to himself how badly he's been traumatized by his failed marriages and relationships with women, to the point where he couldn't handle having a relationship with a very well suited GirlOfTheWeek because he knew how much it would hurt [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption when he inevitably lost her]]. The happy note it ends on, where he puts his demons ([[YourCheatingHeart Lilith]], [[RunawayBride Diane]], his mother, and his hippy first wife) behind him is even mitigated by him continuing to struggle with relationships over the next several seasons.

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* "Don Juan in Hell", the episode where Frasier openly acknowledges to himself how badly he's been traumatized by his failed marriages and relationships with women, to the point where he women. He couldn't handle having a relationship with a very well suited GirlOfTheWeek because he knew how much it would hurt [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption when he inevitably lost her]]. The happy note it ends on, where he puts his demons ([[YourCheatingHeart Lilith]], [[RunawayBride Diane]], his mother, and his hippy first wife) behind him is even mitigated by him continuing to struggle with relationships over the next several seasons.
4th Oct '16 8:24:29 AM tonagamu
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** Donny's proposal itself is a tearjerker. It's so sweet and well written, it puts almost the most romantic proposal you may have ever heard to shame.
15th Aug '16 7:44:03 PM DrOO7
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** There's considerable FridgeHorror there--that even with Niles secretly being convinced that Martin views him as a failure, he still came to the party dressed as him. In other words, he ''still'' considers Martin to be his hero. Very akin to an abused person still desperate for love and approval from his/her abuser.



* At the end of the season premiere "Don Juan In Hell":
--> "In loving memory of our friends Lynn and David Angell"
** For those unaware. David Angell, the executive producer, along with his wife were killed in the September 11 attack aboard American Airlines Flight 11


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** And at the end of the season premiere "Don Juan In Hell":
--> "In loving memory of our friends Lynn and David Angell"
** For those unaware. David Angell, the executive producer, along with his wife were killed in the September 11 attack aboard American Airlines Flight 11.
13th Jun '16 5:59:06 AM jccw227
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** Another subtle one. As they hug, Martin tells Frasier, "thank you." This is a CallBack to the first episode where they get into a fight because Frasier was upset that Martin never verbally thanked him for allowing him to move in with him.
9th Apr '16 8:44:05 PM Winters15
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* Season 6's "Visions of Daphne" is one big TearJerker for Niles. He has to learn from Daphne that Donny is planning to propose to her, then she comes to him saying she had a vision that she was meant to be with someone else and he convinces her that she's right and shouldn't accept the proposal. Then Frasier and Martin convince him of how unethical, let alone what a bad friend he would be, if he let Daphne make this decision in his advice so he tries to talk her back into marrying Donny. She's determined to say no, but Donny proposes to her in such a sweet way (in front of all the Crane men) that she surprises them all by accepting. Niles simply walks, heartbroken, out of the room. The pain that Frasier and Martin feel for him is evident.

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* Season 6's "Visions of Daphne" is one big TearJerker for Niles. He has to learn from Daphne that Donny is planning to propose to her, then she comes to him saying she had a vision that she was meant to be with someone else and he convinces her that she's right and shouldn't accept the proposal. Then Frasier and Martin convince him of how unethical, let alone what a bad friend he would be, if he let Daphne make this decision in his advice so he tries to talk her back into marrying Donny. She's determined to say no, but Donny proposes to her in such a sweet way (in front of all the Crane men) that she surprises them all by accepting. Niles simply walks, heartbroken, out of the room. The pain that Frasier and Martin feel for him is evident. Then, later, she thanks Niles for his (second) piece of advice, saying that she had it in mind when she accepted the proposal.


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** At the end, Daphne has a second vision, saying that she saw her dream man with a dragon, which she thinks is ridiculous. The next scene is Niles, unwrapping a present Roz bought him - a ceramic dragon. And both of them are oblivious.
9th Apr '16 8:38:31 PM Winters15
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--> '''Niles:''' It's my own fault. I had chance after chance to tell her how I feel and I always kept my mouth shut.
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