History TearJerker / FinalFantasyVIII

22nd Jan '17 6:55:24 PM CynicalPeafowl
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** The theme for that area, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mOxZAE1Y7s Where I Belong]] doesn't help things either.
9th Jan '17 11:23:21 PM ShorinBJ
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* When you defeat the Tonberry King, he transforms into a normal Tonberry and joins your party, but not before saying "I'm sorry." Now, is he apologizing to Squall and Co. for attacking them, or to the scores of Tonberries he failed to avenge as these [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans came in and began to butcher them all for no apparent reason]]?

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* When you defeat the Tonberry King, he transforms into a normal Tonberry and joins your party, but not before saying "I'm sorry." Now, is he apologizing to Squall and Co. for attacking them, or to the scores of Tonberries he failed to avenge as these [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans came in and began to butcher them all for no apparent reason]]?avenge?
30th Aug '16 5:41:06 PM AGorilla
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* When you defeat the Tonberry King, he transforms into a normal Tonberry and joins your party, but not before saying "I'm sorry." Now, is he apologizing to Squall and Co. for attacking them, or to the scores of Tonberries he failed to avenge as these [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans came in and began to butcher them all for no apparent reason]]?
12th Jan '16 6:57:13 AM totoofze47
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* To some, the GameOver screen. Seeing Squall's broken Gunblade and Rinoa's feather with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e4l-vVKY4g a sad music playing]] can really tug at your heartstrings.
14th Aug '15 11:25:35 PM JoieDeCombat
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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, if you were the kind of person who [[spoiler: valued old friendships]]: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party rember that they (bar Rinoa) and Seifer were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.

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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, Irvine, if you were the kind of person who [[spoiler: valued old friendships]]: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party rember remember that they (bar Rinoa) and Seifer were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.
14th Aug '15 11:24:04 PM Gairyuki
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** To a lesser extent, when he DOES try to go through with the sniping and fails because of Edea's barrier, [[spoiler: the way he slumps after gives the feeling that he's secretly relieved the bullet was blocked, thus saving him the guilt of killing their mother figure]]
14th Aug '15 11:20:38 PM Gairyuki
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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, if you were the kind of person who [[spoiler: valued old friendships]]: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party (bar Rinoa) and Seifer that they were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.

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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, if you were the kind of person who [[spoiler: valued old friendships]]: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party rember that they (bar Rinoa) and Seifer that they were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.
14th Aug '15 11:20:03 PM Gairyuki
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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, if you were the kind who valued old friendships: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party (bar Rinoa) and Seifer that they were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.

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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, if you were the kind of person who [[spoiler: valued old friendships: friendships]]: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party (bar Rinoa) and Seifer that they were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.
14th Aug '15 11:18:48 PM Gairyuki
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* No mention of Irvine's entire situation from his introduction? It's not obvious at first but going through a second playthrough, armed with the revelation, makes you feel for the poor guy, if you were the kind who valued old friendships: [[spoiler: He reveals later in Trabia Garden and helps the main party (bar Rinoa) and Seifer that they were all friends in the same orphanage, raised by Edea and Cid before the former was possessed by Ultimecia]]. What initially seems like a cocky, and some would find annoying, behavior when he's first introduced that he seems to fail to live up to when it comes time to snipe Edea [[spoiler: is in fact a mask to hide that he's severely hurt and disappointed none of his old friends remember him and that he can't bring himself to shoot their mother figure, even if she isn't who she used to be. Never mind that these old friends who don't remember him or her seem so casual in the idea of killing her. You can tell he wants to tell them but it would be pointless because of the urgency of the situation and they wouldn't even know what he was talking about anyway]]. Rather heartbreaking, really.
12th Jan '15 9:01:52 AM JoieDeCombat
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* The entire reason Ellone puts the characters through mind-travel. [[spoiler: She's living with immense guilt that Laguna had left Raine to look for her, and thus not only wasn't at Raine's side when she died but he didn't even know he had a son. So Ellone had her friends from the orphanage--including Laguna's son Squall--mind-travel to the past to try and communicate to Laguna that he shouldn't leave Raine to look for her. But what Ellone didn't realize was that the characters she selected for mind-travel had already experienced memory loss from using Guardian Forces and so they had no idea what the experiences even were.]]

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* The entire reason Ellone puts the characters through mind-travel. [[spoiler: She's living with immense guilt that Laguna had left Raine to look for her, and thus not only wasn't at Raine's side when she died but he didn't even know he had a son. So Ellone had her friends from the orphanage--including Laguna's son Squall--mind-travel to the past to try and communicate to Laguna that he shouldn't leave Raine to look for her. But what Ellone didn't realize was that the characters she selected for mind-travel had already experienced memory loss from using Guardian Forces and so Unfortunately, they had have no idea what the experiences they're experiencing or what she's trying to accomplish, and after a few tries Ellone can't even were.get back to the right time; eventually, she concludes that the past simply can't be changed.]]
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