History TearJerker / DoctorWho

28th Aug '16 1:23:12 PM Sapphirea2
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** That look on the Doctor's face when Clara tells him off is similarly sad. After his previous inverventions during significant moments of history ("Water of Mars" "Christmas Invasion" etc) he thought he made the right choice by letting humanity deal with the crisis on the virtue of their own strength. Poor guy just can't win.

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** That look on the Doctor's face when Clara tells him off is similarly sad. After his previous inverventions during significant moments of history ("Water ("The Christmas Invasion", "The Waters of Mars" "Christmas Invasion" etc) Mars", etc.) he thought he made the right choice by letting humanity deal with the crisis on the virtue of their own strength. Poor guy just can't win.
*** Plus, he '''does not''' think humans are small, despite Clara claiming he does. But she wasn't there for his speech to the Half-Face Man in "Deep Breath".



** Especially when you notice that the scene is a precise role reversal of the typical "Doctor tricks companion to get them to safety while he does something potentially suicidal on his own" routine we have seen s many times in episodes like "Parting of the Ways", "Timelash", or, performed on Clara herself, in "Time of the Doctor". Not only because he deserves it ''so much'' that smeone finally pulls something like that for ''him'', but also because reversals of common scene types between the Doctor and his companions were pretty common in series 7 (She drags him, she holds his hand to comfort him, she talks even faster...) In the context of how occasionally rocky their bond has been after the regeneration, the recurrence of that motif says alot...

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** Especially when you notice that the scene is a precise role reversal of the typical "Doctor tricks companion to get them to safety while he does something potentially suicidal on his own" routine we have seen s many times in episodes like "Parting of the Ways", "Timelash", or, performed on Clara herself, in "Time "The Time of the Doctor". Not only because he deserves it ''so much'' that smeone someone finally pulls something like that for ''him'', but also because reversals of common scene types between the Doctor and his companions were pretty common in series 7 (She drags him, she holds his hand to comfort him, she talks even faster...) In the context of how occasionally rocky their bond has been after the regeneration, the recurrence of that motif says alot...



*** '''Even worse?''' Later in this season, in anguish the Doctor will save a young girl from death's door -- and she will come to resent him for the "side effect" it left her with. And then and Clara will fight to save the life of Rigsy, knowing ''he'' is a father, and they will save a young woman's mother as well...but it costs Clara her life and sends the Doctor's sanity on the road to ruin. ''The Doctor suffers for caring about others and saving their lives, while Missy gleefully gets away with her sins!''



** Poor Twelve, blaming himself for Ashildr's death, having spent the episode surrounded by people who want him to be a hero (including Clara), desperately ''tired'' of losing everyone he cares about to the ravages of time and fate, and realizing that his whole reason for being is to ''save people''[[note]]That's why he has the face of a man he saved from Pompeii - as a reminder[[/note]], ''damn'' the rules of his own kind, decides to save one sweet girl the only way he can think of: by using Mire technology to restore her body...even though that will also make her ''immortal''. He leaves behind another chip, so she can make someone else she cares about an immortal to stave off the loneliness he knows so well. But even as Clara praises him for his rash actions, he knows in his hearts -- not having to be told (as in, say, "The Waters of Mars") -- that he may well have made a grave mistake. He's clearly remembering the Gallifreyan prophecy of a hybrid warrior (Ashildr is now half-human, half-Mire) and Missy's explanation that "Everyone's a hybrid" of friend and foe; he may also be recalling his confrontation with the Fisher King, for now ''he'', if for more compassionate reasons, robbed someone of their death. The {{Cliffhanger}} has Ashildr, TheAgeless and yet alone in immortality, becoming despondent and hardened as centuries pass. This will haunt the Doctor -- culminating when she has a part in [[spoiler: the death of Clara]].

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** Poor Twelve, blaming himself for Ashildr's death, having spent the episode surrounded by people who want him to be a hero (including Clara), desperately ''tired'' of losing everyone he cares about to the ravages of time and fate, and realizing that his whole reason for being is to ''save people''[[note]]That's why he has the face of a man he saved from Pompeii - as a reminder[[/note]], ''damn'' the rules of his own kind, decides to save one sweet girl the only way he can think of: by using Mire technology to restore her body...even though that will also make her ''immortal''. He leaves behind another chip, so she can make someone else she cares about an immortal to stave off the loneliness he knows so well. But even as Clara praises him for his rash actions, he knows in his hearts -- not having to be told (as in, say, "The Waters of Mars") -- that he may well have made a grave mistake. He's clearly remembering the Gallifreyan prophecy of a hybrid warrior (Ashildr is now half-human, half-Mire) and Missy's explanation that "Everyone's a hybrid" of friend and foe; he may also be recalling his confrontation with the Fisher King, for now ''he'', if for more compassionate reasons, robbed someone of their death. The {{Cliffhanger}} has Ashildr, TheAgeless and yet alone in immortality, becoming despondent and hardened as centuries pass. This will haunt the Doctor -- culminating when she has a part in [[spoiler: the death of Clara]].Clara.



** The BBC ''promo trailer'' drove fans of Twelve and Clara to tears by revealing that she's bidding him a last goodbye in this episode (which isn't even the season finale!) in order to either make a HeroicSacrifice or let ''him'' make one.

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** The BBC ''promo trailer'' drove fans of Twelve and Clara to tears by revealing that she's bidding him a last goodbye in this episode (which isn't wasn't even the season finale!) in order to either make a HeroicSacrifice or let ''him'' make one.finale).



** As io9's review points out, the disaster here ultimately stems from ''two'' things the Doctor did: not stopping Clara from becoming too reckless of a hero via his influence, and ''saving Ashildr's life''. Twelve '''really''' cannot win.

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** As io9's review points out, argues that the disaster here ultimately stems from ''two'' things the Doctor did: not stopping Clara from becoming too reckless of a hero via his influence, and ''saving Ashildr's life''. Twelve '''really''' cannot win.


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** The fact that Rigsy, Anahson, and her mum all owe the Doctor and Clara...and do nothing to help them when worst comes to worst. Rigsy does take on the sad duty of making sure Clara's family, etc. is notified of what happened and that her body is properly treated in death according to a DeletedScene in the script. But Anahson and their mum? May they suffer with the guilt of cowardice forever...
22nd Aug '16 10:14:19 AM Rebu
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** The slightly corny Italian guy saying goodbye to Donna and her Grandpa, before he gets shipped off to a "labour camp." The look on Wilfred's face as he salutes him is utterly devastating -- you can tell he knows exactly where this is going. As they start to drive off, you can tell the Italian guy knows too.
*** "Labour camps. [[WhamLine That's just what they called them the last time.]]" And you can hear Wilf's heart is breaking along with the audience's. It becomes absolutely horrifying when you remember Wilfred fought in WWII and remember what the Nazis were most hated for doing.
*** What's even worse is that the Cyberman theme plays as the Italian family is being driven away, implying that something more horrible than mere death is in store for them.
*** Then you have the moment where Donna realizes what's about to happen, and starts screaming at the soldiers.

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** The slightly corny Italian guy saying goodbye to Donna and her Grandpa, before he gets shipped off to a "labour camp." The look on Wilfred's face as he salutes him is utterly devastating -- you can tell he knows exactly where this is going. As they start to drive off, And you can tell the Italian guy knows too.
*** Donna asks what sort of "labour" they'll be doing. Colsanto makes eye contact with Wilf and stops smiling for an instant, then talks about "sewing...digging" and changes the subject. They put in the ''exact moment'' when he comes up with that lie.
*** "Labour camps. [[WhamLine That's just what they called them the last time.]]" And you can hear Wilf's heart is breaking along with the audience's. It becomes absolutely horrifying when you remember Wilfred fought in WWII and remember what the Nazis were most hated for doing.
doing. They even cut in Colsanto dropping the facade, holding his wife, and starting to cry.
*** What's even worse is that what sounds like the Cyberman theme plays as the Italian family is being driven away, implying that something more horrible than mere death is in store for them.
*** Then you have the moment where Donna realizes what's about to happen, and starts screaming at the soldiers. "''Where are you going?''"
13th Aug '16 2:14:07 PM Sharlee
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*** And when she says it will, ''he says "Good"''. Because he's convinced that he's compromising every principle he's ever lived by, and believes that he ''deserves'' whatever pain the process might inflict upon him.

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*** ** And when she says it will, ''he says "Good"''. Because he's convinced that he's compromising every principle he's ever lived by, and believes that he ''deserves'' whatever pain the process might inflict upon him. Eight's last moments of existence were Eight at his most self-loathing.
13th Aug '16 2:11:54 PM Sharlee
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*** And when she says it will, ''he says "Good"''. Because he's convinced that he's compromising every principle he's ever lived by, and believes that he ''deserves'' whatever pain the process might inflict upon him.
3rd Aug '16 3:12:21 AM The12thDoctor
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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tearjerker_6.png]][[caption-width-right:350:[[spoiler:I don't want to go]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E5TheGirlWhoDied "I'm sick of losing people."]]'']]
10th Jul '16 10:36:10 AM Sharlee
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*** Fridge Tearjerker: Just to make it worse, it's entirely plausible that she might've ''previously'' had children who grew up to adulthood and died of old age, but doesn't remember them. After losing her babies, she'd have torn out any surviving children's pages, the better to remove the temptation to ever risk it again.
10th Jul '16 10:22:31 AM Sharlee
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** Some sad reveals about Danny Pink's background: how he grew up in a children's home where other boys pranked him, playing with damaged toy soldiers and not even liking ''his own name''. Pretty harsh situation to start one's life in, and in his case - [[NotSoDifferent which parallels young One's]] - we know he ''won't'' find an alternative to joining the military to get out of it.
10th Jul '16 10:10:15 AM Sharlee
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** ''The Forest of Death''

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** * ''The Forest of Death''


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*** The fact that the man she was married to '''will''' remember her, and will spend the rest of his life kicking himself for how his stutter prevented him from calling out to the woman he'd loved.
3rd Jul '16 11:58:33 PM TimeLordVictorious
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** "Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame". [[FridgeBrilliance The War Doctor is referring to his successors as "great men", while he is the "lesser man"]] destined to light the flame when destroying Gallifrey.
21st Jun '16 7:49:14 AM beeruckzII
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** The old man saying goodbye to his wife just before his death.



** Her last words: "''Let me be brave...let me be brave...''".

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*** What makes her death even worse is the fact that hers is the first ''actually violent death'' in New Who! Rose eventually got her happy ending, Martha left of her own accord and also got her happy ending, Donna might've lost her memories but she's still alive and married now and Amy and Rory did die but that was from old age in the past. Clara is the first companion to actually have a violent death since the show started again in 2005 and for a lot of people that haven't yet watched the Classic series, it can be incredibly upsetting!
** Her last words: "''Let me be brave...let me be brave...''".''"


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** The old man saying goodbye to his wife just before his death.
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