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* "The Holy Terror"; another Sixth Doctor serial. It's got Frobisher, who's a shapeshifting penguin in his first (and only in the main canon) audio appearance. He sounds a bit like he's from [[HahvahdYahdInMyCah the Boston area of America]]. It's about a world where successions of emperors/kings gets taken the mickey out of, with cliché evil High priests and brothers of crown princes wanting to dispose of him because [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality they HAVE to. It's always been this way!]] You catch glimpses of something lying underneath at one point when the Doctor meets up with an [[{{Irony}} unimportant scribe]]. It then suddenly (after [[CerebusSyndrome gradually getting]] more serious and less comical, and after [[spoiler:the deaths of five main characters]]) goes [[MoodWhiplash full swing the other way]]: [[spoiler:the world is a [[DreamLand Dream World]], a prison set up for ''some'' reason for ''some'' person because of his biggest crime he's committed; taking the life of his child. The guilty father is confronted by this form of GroundHogDayLoop and is encouraged by the Doctor to not kill his son this time; he can break the loop, he can redeem himself. [[TheReveal Eugene]], [[{{Irony}} the unimportant scribe]], [[DrivenToSuicide hands his son the knife he used to kill him with]] and has him kill him (Eugene) while the Doctor [[IntangibleMan is unable to stop them]]. The world [[DreamApocalypse ends]] and the Doctor and Frobisher end in a landscape of static, while Eugene's son cries out his father was like a God to [[{{Irony}} him]] and dies as well. [[DownerEnding Wow.]]]]

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* "The Holy Terror"; another Sixth Doctor serial. It's got Frobisher, who's a shapeshifting penguin in his first (and only in the main canon) audio appearance. He sounds a bit like he's from [[HahvahdYahdInMyCah the Boston area of America]]. It's about a world where successions of emperors/kings gets taken the mickey out of, with cliché evil High priests and brothers of crown princes wanting to dispose of him because [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality they HAVE to. It's always been this way!]] You catch glimpses of something lying underneath at one point when the Doctor meets up with an [[{{Irony}} unimportant scribe]]. It then suddenly (after [[CerebusSyndrome gradually getting]] more serious and less comical, and after [[spoiler:the deaths of five main characters]]) goes [[MoodWhiplash full swing the other way]]: [[spoiler:the world is a [[DreamLand Dream World]], a prison set up for ''some'' reason for ''some'' person because of his biggest crime he's committed; taking the life of his child. The guilty father is confronted by this form of GroundHogDayLoop and is encouraged by the Doctor to not kill his son this time; he can break the loop, he can redeem himself. [[TheReveal Eugene]], [[{{Irony}} the unimportant scribe]], [[DrivenToSuicide hands his son the knife he used to kill him with]] and has him kill him (Eugene) the son kills the father while the Doctor [[IntangibleMan is unable to stop them]]. The world [[DreamApocalypse ends]] and the Doctor and Frobisher end in a landscape of static, while Eugene's son cries out his father was like a God to [[{{Irony}} him]] and dies as well. [[DownerEnding Wow.]]]]
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* The Eighth Doctor degenerating back into the First Doctor and having a final farewell with Susan, telling her how proud he is of her, and that he wasn't mistaken at all.
* Susan and River's goodbye with the War Doctor is incredibly cold and blunt, and you get the sense that he's stopping himself showing too much affection to them. The sombre, tragic version of the War Doctor's theme only adds to the bleakness of the scene.
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* The death of Susan Roberts in "Red Dawn" after she is blasted by Sstast when he thinks she is pointing a gun at him, when in reality, she was merely trying to bluff the Ice Warriors by pretending that the spectographer she is holding is a gun. Her superior, Commander Lee Forbes, is understandably devastated and [[ItsAllMyFault greatly blames himself]] for her death.
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* "Arrangements for War": Six inadvertently gets a loving couple killed due to a well-meaning piece of advice. Utterly distraught and furious at himself, he marches to the TARDIS and immediately sets to give the Laws of Time a middle finger by travelling to just before he met the man and prevent him from meeting his past self, and consequences be damned. Evelyn barely catches up with him, and realizes he's stewing in such remorse and self-loathing that he momentarily forgot about her, which just adds to his recriminations. Realizing just how insanely determined the Doctor is at instigating a TimeCrash, Evelyn distracts him by reminding him he's still covered in blood, and that he should at least go compose and freshen himself up before even thinking of meeting someone else. Conceding the point, he leaves the main console - and Evelyn takes the chance to change the coordinates. Six is furious when he realizes he's arrived years too early to save the couple, but melts into an inconsolable mess when Evelyn makes him understand that ''this'' he can't change - they will have their time and they will have their brief happiness. He's ultimately forced to accept she's right, accepting her as his intellectual equal and his emotional ''better''. Giving the couple a forlorn look, they return to the TARDIS, and begin the painful process of recovery.

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* "Arrangements for War": Six inadvertently gets a loving couple killed due to a well-meaning piece of advice. Utterly distraught and furious at himself, he marches to the TARDIS and immediately sets to give the Laws of Time a middle finger by travelling to just before he met the man and prevent him from meeting his past self, and consequences be damned. Evelyn barely catches up with him, and realizes he's stewing in such remorse and self-loathing that he momentarily forgot about her, which just adds to his recriminations. Realizing just how insanely determined the Doctor is at instigating a TimeCrash, TimeCrash (and realizing she's been deceived by the Doctor's bravado and ego into thinking he really couldn't feel any guilt over this and the horror of getting someone killed in the previous adventure), Evelyn distracts him by reminding him he's still covered in blood, and that he should at least go compose and freshen himself up before even thinking of meeting someone else. Conceding the point, he leaves the main console - and Evelyn takes the chance to change the coordinates. Six is furious when he realizes he's arrived years too early to save the couple, but melts into an inconsolable mess when Evelyn makes him understand that ''this'' he can't change - they will have their time and they will have their brief happiness. He's ultimately forced to accept she's right, accepting her as his intellectual equal and his emotional ''better''. Giving the couple a forlorn look, they return to the TARDIS, and begin the painful process of recovery.

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* ''The War Valeyard'': The Time Lords resurrect the Valeyard and send him to use a doomsday device to wipe out the Daleks. The result is the Valeyard being trapped in a time loop, and each loop has his memory becoming more and corrupted, to the point that he believes that he is the Doctor. When the Eighth Doctor offers to rescue him from the loop, the Valeyard refuses, preferring to stay stuck in a loop where he can be a hero, rather than returning to his true self.
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** The Dalek realises that the inward corruption and destructiveness of the Human Empire is a premonition for what would happen if the Daleks succeeded in exterminating all other life forms. They would turn on each other and eventually wipe out their own race. So he destroys the Supreme Dalek, hooks himself up to the communication network, and orders all Daleks to self-destruct in order to save them from themselves. Once again finding himself the last Dalek, he orders Evelyn to kill him, believing their destruction to be for the good of their race. Even the Doctor expresses empathy for the creature.
-->'''The Doctor''': I'm sorry. I misjudged you.
-->'''Dalek''': No, Doctor. You judged me correctly. I am a Dalek, and I die for the greater glory of my race.
-->'''The Doctor''': I'm sorry anyway.

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* "The Entropy Plauge". After Nyssa gets another chance to travel with the Doctor, Tegan and Turlough, forming a new kind of bond with Turlough and getting a new kind of dynamic with the Doctor and Tegan, ultimately she sacrifices her new life and her chance to see her family again to get the TARDIS back to N-Space. Her last scene might offer hope for her seemingly-dying universe, but she's still trapped in a world far from her own, always aware of what she's lost and faced with the idea that nothing she could do would matter in the long term.



* The Seventh Doctor story "A Death in the Family" has its share of depressing bits, being the culmination of a plot arc that in and of itself was a tearjerker. Ace and Hex's individual reactions to [[spoiler:the Doctor's]] death hit hard (even without their sudden separation across centuries and space). Ace's especially, as she spends huge amounts of time and money fighting to bring [[spoiler:the Doctor]] back from the dead; once she finally realizes it isn't possible, she has a complete, hysterical, sobbing breakdown and it isn't pretty. But the death of [[spoiler:Evelyn]] at the end is a killer, as she essentially narrates it herself. "As the lights grew faint around her and the Word Lord paced the shrinking room in silence, [[spoiler:Evelyn Rossiter]] sat quietly without fear, thinking about her friend the Doctor. ''Her'' Doctor, with his bright coat and bravado, and all their wonderful adventures together in time and space." HarsherInHindsight following the death of [[spoiler:Maggie Stables (Evelyn).]]

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* The Seventh Doctor story "A Death in the Family" has its share of depressing bits, being the culmination of a plot arc that in and of itself was a tearjerker. Ace and Hex's individual reactions to [[spoiler:the Doctor's]] death hit hard (even without their sudden separation across centuries and space). Ace's especially, as she spends huge amounts of time and money fighting to bring [[spoiler:the Doctor]] back from the dead; once she finally realizes it isn't possible, she has a complete, hysterical, sobbing breakdown and it isn't pretty. But the death of [[spoiler:Evelyn]] at the end is a killer, as she essentially narrates it herself. "As the lights grew faint around her and the Word Lord paced the shrinking room in silence, [[spoiler:Evelyn Rossiter]] sat quietly without fear, thinking about her friend the Doctor. ''Her'' Doctor, with his bright coat and bravado, and all their wonderful adventures together in time and space." HarsherInHindsight following the death of [[spoiler:Maggie Stables (Evelyn).]](Evelyn)]].



* The entirety of 'Afterlife'; in the wake of [[spoiler: Hex's death, Ace has turned on the Doctor for his many plans, deceits and games, the Doctor is unable to placate her and only seems to make her angrier with every attempt he makes, and everyone is ''grieving'']]. The story is a dour deconstruction of what kind of damage a HeroicSacrifice can leave, especially when said death happens to a time traveller who's family is unaware of his actions. The Doctor shows just how painfully alien he is by being unable to reconcile himself with the humans around him, and just how scary and vindictive he can be when one of his friends is played with. Ace herself shows how badly she copes at losing someone important to her, especially when that person [[spoiler: appears right in front of her without any memory of her]].
** Even worse is the fact that the Doctor [[spoiler: just wants his friend back.]] But Ace is [[spoiler: refusing to listen to him, and has barricaded herself in Hex's room, ''breaking down utterly''. The Doctor tries everything to cheer her up- he even goes and makes pancakes (which are rebuffed) and attempts to play the spoons. A spoon solo has never sounded ''so damn mournful''.]]

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* The entirety of 'Afterlife'; in the wake of [[spoiler: Hex's death, Ace has turned on the Doctor for his many plans, deceits and games, the Doctor is unable to placate her and only seems to make her angrier with every attempt he makes, and everyone is ''grieving'']]. The story is a dour deconstruction of what kind of damage a HeroicSacrifice can leave, especially when said death happens to a time traveller who's whose family is unaware of his actions. The Doctor shows just how painfully alien he is by being unable to reconcile himself with the humans around him, and just how scary and vindictive he can be when one of his friends is played with. Ace herself shows how badly she copes at losing someone important to her, especially when that person [[spoiler: appears right in front of her without any memory of her]].
** Even worse is the fact that the Doctor [[spoiler: just wants his friend back.]] back]]. But Ace is [[spoiler: refusing to listen to him, and has barricaded herself in Hex's room, ''breaking down utterly''. The Doctor tries everything to cheer her up- he even goes and makes pancakes (which are rebuffed) and attempts to play the spoons. A spoon solo has never sounded ''so damn mournful''.]]
mournful'']].



* The Silver Turk is written by the same person who wrote Spare Parts, and while it's nowhere near as heart-breaking as that story, it still has its moments, such as when Mary finds a disoriented Cyberman, one like those from the Tenth Planet, who has crashed on Earth. Hearing it speaking in that weird sing-song voice, mixed with the effects used for more modern Cyberman voices, and getting increasingly terrified, because it thinks it's back on Mondas and has no idea what's happened.

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* The "The Silver Turk Turk" is written by the same person who wrote Spare Parts, "Spare Parts", and while it's nowhere near as heart-breaking as that story, it still has its moments, such as when Mary finds a disoriented Cyberman, one like those from the Tenth Planet, who has crashed on Earth. Hearing it speaking in that weird sing-song voice, mixed with the effects used for more modern Cyberman voices, and getting increasingly terrified, because it thinks it's back on Mondas and has no idea what's happened.


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* In "Monsters in Metropolis", the Doctor finds a Cyberman who has suffered so much damage to its mechanical components that enough of its original organic self has been reactivated. For once the Doctor has found a Cyberman that genuinely wants to ''not'' be a monster... and he's [[spoiler:ultimately forced to let this possible friend die once it's clear that there is no hope for making his life better]].
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* The climax of ''Neverland'' where Charley is literally begging the Doctor to kill her because it will be the only way to save all of time, talking about all of the adventures they've had and how even these few months they've spent together have given her everything she could've dreamed of and more, only for the Doctor to refuse can be a bit too much.
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* A fridge example brought on by the [[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor Night of the Doctor mini-episode]] in which [[spoiler: Eight remembers Charley, C'rizz, Lucie, Tamsin, and Molly as his companions from the Big Finish era.]]
* The Eighth Doctor audio drama "Casualties Of War" was one of Creator/JohnHurt's final works (the other one being the film "That Good Night") before his passing on January 2017.
* Creator/JacquelinePearce's death in September 2018; dying from a form of cancer much like Creator/JohnHurt before her.
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A spoiler which conceals the location of the spoiler is worse than useless. THANKS, by the way.


* [[spoiler: Hex's death at the end of Gods and Monsters.]] Ace is inconsolable and refuses to let the Doctor calm her down.

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* [[spoiler: Hex's death at the end of Gods of]] "Gods and Monsters.]] Monsters". Ace is inconsolable and refuses to let the Doctor calm her down.
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* Jacqueline Pearce's death in September 2018; dying from a form of cancer much like Creator/JohnHurt before her.

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* Jacqueline Pearce's Creator/JacquelinePearce's death in September 2018; dying from a form of cancer much like Creator/JohnHurt before her.
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* In "The Doomsday Chronometer*, when [[spoiler:the Eight]] regenerates, knowing his next life will be just as evil and sadistic as the first seven. Made even worse as his other seven personas taunt him, as [[TheWoobie he cries alone]].

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* In "The Doomsday Chronometer*, Chronometer", when [[spoiler:the Eight]] regenerates, knowing his next life will be just as evil and sadistic as the first seven. Made even worse as his other seven personas taunt him, as [[TheWoobie he cries alone]].



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** The Doctor ''bellowing'' at the Monk to get out of his sight while choking back tears when he learns [[spoiler: everything that happened was his fault.]] Paul McGann's performance here is particularly gut-wrenching because he first demands the Monk fess up to any other crimes with frightening grief and rage: "COME ON, we're waiting!"

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** The Doctor ''bellowing'' at the Monk to get out of his sight while choking back tears when he learns [[spoiler: everything that happened was his fault.]] Paul McGann's [=McGann=]'s performance here is particularly gut-wrenching because he first demands the Monk fess up to any other crimes with frightening grief and rage: "COME ON, we're waiting!"

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* The part near the end of "The Suffering", when Vicki and Steven are stating what Suffragettes went through in prison. Maureen O'Brien and Creator/PeterPurves' sorrowful performances are what made it even more heartbreaking.

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* The part near the end of "The Suffering", when Vicki and Steven are stating what Suffragettes went through in prison. Maureen O'Brien Creator/MaureenOBrien and Creator/PeterPurves' sorrowful performances are what made it even more heartbreaking.
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* The part near the end of "The Suffering", when Vicki and Steven are stating what Suffragettes went through in prison. Maurine O'Brien and Peter Purves' sorrowful performances are what made it even more heartbreaking.

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* The part near the end of "The Suffering", when Vicki and Steven are stating what Suffragettes went through in prison. Maurine Maureen O'Brien and Peter Purves' Creator/PeterPurves' sorrowful performances are what made it even more heartbreaking.
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** The fate of [[spoiler: the alternate Sixth Doctor]] in "Jubilee". To see such a strong, intelligent, arrogant and yet kind man being be reduced to a mindless, crippled, and utterly broken figure is bad enough, but when he attempts to come to grips with the death of [[spoiler: alternate Evelyn]] in front of him, and [[spoiler: Real Evelyn]] tries to reassure him about how grateful she is that she met him and how she forgives him for not being able to save her, his one moment of lucidity in thanking her just makes the scene so much sadder.

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** The fate of [[spoiler: the alternate Sixth Doctor]] in "Jubilee". To see such a strong, intelligent, arrogant and yet kind man being be reduced to a mindless, crippled, and utterly broken figure is bad enough, but when he attempts to come to grips with the death of [[spoiler: alternate Evelyn]] in front of him, and [[spoiler: Real Evelyn]] tries to reassure him about how grateful she is that she met him and how she forgives him for not being able to save her, his one moment of lucidity in thanking her just makes the scene so much sadder.
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* "Arrangements for War": Six inadvertently gets a loving couple killed due to a well-meaning piece of advice. Utterly distraught and furious at himself, he marches to the TARDIS and immediately sets to give the Laws of Time a middle finger by traveling to just before he met the man and prevent him from meeting his past self, and consequences be damned. Evelyn barely catches up with him, and realizes he's stewing in such remorse and self-loathing that he momentarily forgot about her, which just adds to his recriminations. Realizing just how insanely determined the Doctor is at instigating a TimeCrash, Evelyn distracts him by reminding him he's still covered in blood, and that he should at least go compose and freshen himself up before even thinking of meeting someone else. Conceding the point, he leaves the main console - and Evelyn takes the chance to change the coordinates. Six is furious when he realizes he's arrived years too early to save the couple, but melts into an inconsolable mess when Evelyn makes him understand that ''this'' he can't change - they will have their time and they will have their brief happiness. He's ultimately forced to accept she's right, accepting her as his intellectual equal and his emotional ''better''. Giving the couple a forlorn look, they return to the TARDIS, and begin the painful process of recovery.

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* "Arrangements for War": Six inadvertently gets a loving couple killed due to a well-meaning piece of advice. Utterly distraught and furious at himself, he marches to the TARDIS and immediately sets to give the Laws of Time a middle finger by traveling travelling to just before he met the man and prevent him from meeting his past self, and consequences be damned. Evelyn barely catches up with him, and realizes he's stewing in such remorse and self-loathing that he momentarily forgot about her, which just adds to his recriminations. Realizing just how insanely determined the Doctor is at instigating a TimeCrash, Evelyn distracts him by reminding him he's still covered in blood, and that he should at least go compose and freshen himself up before even thinking of meeting someone else. Conceding the point, he leaves the main console - and Evelyn takes the chance to change the coordinates. Six is furious when he realizes he's arrived years too early to save the couple, but melts into an inconsolable mess when Evelyn makes him understand that ''this'' he can't change - they will have their time and they will have their brief happiness. He's ultimately forced to accept she's right, accepting her as his intellectual equal and his emotional ''better''. Giving the couple a forlorn look, they return to the TARDIS, and begin the painful process of recovery.



* The entirety of 'Afterlife'; in the wake of [[spoiler: Hex's death, Ace has turned on the Doctor for his many plans, deceits and games, the Doctor is unable to placate her and only seems to make her angrier with every attempt he makes, and everyone is ''grieving'']]. The story is a dour deconstruction of what kind of damage a HeroicSacrifice can leave, especially when said death happens to a time traveler who's family is unaware of his actions. The Doctor shows just how painfully alien he is by being unable to reconcile himself with the humans around him, and just how scary and vindictive he can be when one of his friends is played with. Ace herself shows how badly she copes at losing someone important to her, especially when that person [[spoiler: appears right in front of her without any memory of her]].

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* The entirety of 'Afterlife'; in the wake of [[spoiler: Hex's death, Ace has turned on the Doctor for his many plans, deceits and games, the Doctor is unable to placate her and only seems to make her angrier with every attempt he makes, and everyone is ''grieving'']]. The story is a dour deconstruction of what kind of damage a HeroicSacrifice can leave, especially when said death happens to a time traveler traveller who's family is unaware of his actions. The Doctor shows just how painfully alien he is by being unable to reconcile himself with the humans around him, and just how scary and vindictive he can be when one of his friends is played with. Ace herself shows how badly she copes at losing someone important to her, especially when that person [[spoiler: appears right in front of her without any memory of her]].
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-->'''[[spoiler:The One]]''': You tried your best, old sport. Time to let a better man take charge.
'''[[spoiler:The Five]]''': Quite right, too. He was never really one of us.
'''[[spoiler:The Seven]]''': Idiot! Idiot! Idiot [[Spoiler:Eight]]!
'''[[spoiler:The Two]]''': There, there, I know it hurts, but we've been through worse-
'''[[spoiler:The Six]]''': When is it my turn again?! When can I drive?! When can I kill people?!
'''[[spoiler:The One]]''': Quiet, [[spoiler:Six]]. You know you don't get another chance. None of us do. Now concentrate. It's starting.
'''[[spoiler:The Four]]''': See you on the inside, [[spoiler:Eight]]!

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-->'''[[spoiler:The One]]''': You tried your best, old sport. Time to let a better man take charge.
charge.\\
'''[[spoiler:The Five]]''': Quite right, too. He was never really one of us.
us.\\
'''[[spoiler:The Seven]]''': Idiot! Idiot! Idiot [[Spoiler:Eight]]!
[[spoiler:Eight]]!\\
'''[[spoiler:The Two]]''': There, there, I know it hurts, but we've been through worse-
worse-\\
'''[[spoiler:The Six]]''': When is it my turn again?! When can I drive?! When can I kill people?!
people?!\\
'''[[spoiler:The One]]''': Quiet, [[spoiler:Six]]. You know you don't get another chance. None of us do. Now concentrate. It's starting.
starting.\\
'''[[spoiler:The Four]]''': See you on the inside, [[spoiler:Eight]]![[spoiler:Eight]]!\\
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* In "Absent Friends", Helen finding out that leaving her family lead to their family name being tarnished.
* In "The Doomsday Chronometer*, when [[spoiler:the Eight]] regenerates, knowing his next life will be just as evil and sadistic as the first seven. Made even worse as his other seven personas taunt him, as [[TheWoobie he cries alone]].
-->'''[[spoiler:The One]]''': You tried your best, old sport. Time to let a better man take charge.
'''[[spoiler:The Five]]''': Quite right, too. He was never really one of us.
'''[[spoiler:The Seven]]''': Idiot! Idiot! Idiot [[Spoiler:Eight]]!
'''[[spoiler:The Two]]''': There, there, I know it hurts, but we've been through worse-
'''[[spoiler:The Six]]''': When is it my turn again?! When can I drive?! When can I kill people?!
'''[[spoiler:The One]]''': Quiet, [[spoiler:Six]]. You know you don't get another chance. None of us do. Now concentrate. It's starting.
'''[[spoiler:The Four]]''': See you on the inside, [[spoiler:Eight]]!
'''[[spoiler:The Eight]]''': Hear me! All of you! I'm a good man! A good man! I want peace!
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CM pages aren't the place to compare things and say "X is even more _ than Y"


** This is an even sadder finale then all the New Who finales.
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we're past 12th doctor and still no valeyard. at this point, its just idle speculation until we see them


** And we should remember that the Doctor is highly likely to join the roster soon. Remember Valeyard? It's Twelfth Doctor now...

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