History TearJerker / Berserk

20th Aug '16 5:01:27 AM PurpleAlert
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\n* As she's contemplating what to do about being invited to Misty Valley and giving up her normal human life to become a fairy, she has a lot of difficulty finding a reason to ''not'' throw her humanity away. Eventually she confesses to Puck that growing up and having children of her own, knowing the kind of CrapsackWorld she lives in and her own [[AttemptedRape awful experiences]] as a kid, would be unbearable because she'd be living in constant fear: what might happen to her children, what sort of monster would she eventually have to marry? These are all very reasonable fears, but the heartbreaking part is when she realizes, ''that's what life is, for a human girl''.

9th Jul '16 4:54:13 PM Anddrix
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*** Good thing you added that last part, considering how you can take [[BaseBreaker Griffith's]] [[DracoInLeatherPants predicament.]]

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*** Good thing you added that last part, considering how you can take [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter Griffith's]] [[DracoInLeatherPants predicament.]]



*** ... Griffith's DespairEventHorizon. After hearing Guts and Casca, the two people whom he perhaps held the only amount of affection for, talk about leaving him and pretty much pitying him just sends Griffith over the edge with grief, and he works up the strength to ride the wagon into a shallow lake. There, he tries to commit suicide by impaling himself on a sharp log, [[BungledSuicide but fails.]] Then, Griffith suddenly has a hallucination of sorts, where he is living a peaceful and simple life with Casca and their child, and Guts is just a memory from their past (save that their child bears his namesake). Perhaps this fantasy shows us that if Griffith were to think of himself as "normal" and on the same level as his comrades, this was all that he wanted out of life, and yet even that's impossible at this point not only because he's horribly mutilated, but also because the only woman whom he could ever possibly grow to love is in love with another man and is only staying with him out of pity. Double the sadness because, [[BaseBreaker for half of the fanbase at least]], this is the last time you'll feel truly sorry for this man, because [[ClingyMacGuffin look]] [[ArtifactOfDoom what's]] [[FromBadToWorse back.]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Oh jeez, here we go...]]

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*** ... Griffith's DespairEventHorizon. After hearing Guts and Casca, the two people whom he perhaps held the only amount of affection for, talk about leaving him and pretty much pitying him just sends Griffith over the edge with grief, and he works up the strength to ride the wagon into a shallow lake. There, he tries to commit suicide by impaling himself on a sharp log, [[BungledSuicide but fails.]] Then, Griffith suddenly has a hallucination of sorts, where he is living a peaceful and simple life with Casca and their child, and Guts is just a memory from their past (save that their child bears his namesake). Perhaps this fantasy shows us that if Griffith were to think of himself as "normal" and on the same level as his comrades, this was all that he wanted out of life, and yet even that's impossible at this point not only because he's horribly mutilated, but also because the only woman whom he could ever possibly grow to love is in love with another man and is only staying with him out of pity. Double the sadness because, [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter for half of the fanbase at least]], this is the last time you'll feel truly sorry for this man, because [[ClingyMacGuffin look]] [[ArtifactOfDoom what's]] [[FromBadToWorse back.]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Oh jeez, here we go...]]
6th Jul '16 11:01:17 PM KingClark
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** Breaks me up each time I read that line.
9th Jun '16 10:16:36 PM KaeozCrimson
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** A heartbreaking moment is the long and detailed combination of BreakingSpeech and TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that [[spoiler: the Godhand]] gives to Griffith, essentially revealing to him that, for all his charisma, all his accomplishments, Griffith was never more than a child, stacking the corpses of the ones around him atop one another, trying to reach a distant, unreachable castle. Getting thrown in his face the fact that, for all his manipulations and machinations, were not only for nothing, but in pursuit of a childish dream, is more or less what sends him cartwheeling over the MoralEventHorizon. The kicker? The last thing he says before making his choice? He looks at Guts and says "You are the only man who ever made me forget my dream." Casca and the rest of the Band of the Hawk? They meant nothing to him. But Guts? Griffith genuinely, honestly cared about him.
4th May '16 9:08:08 PM TheBigBopper
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* Even after all these years, the original anime version of the Eclipse preserves its power. For example, the scene where Femto rapes Casca while forcing Guts to watch. It's very minimalist compared to the original manga, as well as the 2013 film descent: Casca's body and the act itself are largely obscured by Femto's wings, and there's very little actual movement going on in each frame. Part of this is because LimitedAnimation is par for the course in old-school low-budget productions, and because they have to censor it a lot for television, but these constraints actually result in a very powerful use of limited animation and cutting between still images to show the characters' emotions, also emphasizing how everything is about eyes and vision. We don't see what Femto is doing to Casca, but we see her upper body and her face as she suffers her violation. We see Guts with his body covered in wounds, pinned down by the claws of a dozen demons with his eyes filled with tears of grief and rage. We see Femto almost unmoving as he rapes Casca, giving Guts an emotionless KubrickStare. We see the faces of Ubik and Slan, as Slan says how beautiful it is to her. And lastly, we see from the perspective of Guts' right eye as the demon's claw pierces it, engraving the image into his mind forever.

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* Even after all these years, the original anime version of the Eclipse preserves its power. For example, the scene where Femto rapes Casca while forcing Guts to watch. It's very minimalist compared to the original manga, as well as the 2013 film descent: ''Advent'': Casca's body and the act itself are largely obscured by Femto's wings, and there's very little actual movement going on in each frame. Part of this is because LimitedAnimation is par for the course in old-school low-budget productions, and because they have to censor it a lot for television, but these constraints actually result in a very powerful use of limited animation and cutting between still images to show the characters' emotions, also while emphasizing how everything is about eyes and vision. We don't see what Femto is doing to Casca, but we see her upper body and her face as she suffers her violation. We see Guts with his body covered in wounds, pinned down by the claws of a dozen demons with his eyes filled with tears of grief and rage. We see Femto almost unmoving as he rapes Casca, giving Guts an emotionless KubrickStare. We see the faces of Ubik and Slan, as Slan says how beautiful it is to her. And lastly, we see from the perspective of Guts' right eye as the demon's claw pierces it, engraving the image into his mind forever.
4th May '16 9:07:15 PM TheBigBopper
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!The 1997-98 Anime
* Even after all these years, the original anime version of the Eclipse preserves its power. For example, the scene where Femto rapes Casca while forcing Guts to watch. It's very minimalist compared to the original manga, as well as the 2013 film descent: Casca's body and the act itself are largely obscured by Femto's wings, and there's very little actual movement going on in each frame. Part of this is because LimitedAnimation is par for the course in old-school low-budget productions, and because they have to censor it a lot for television, but these constraints actually result in a very powerful use of limited animation and cutting between still images to show the characters' emotions, also emphasizing how everything is about eyes and vision. We don't see what Femto is doing to Casca, but we see her upper body and her face as she suffers her violation. We see Guts with his body covered in wounds, pinned down by the claws of a dozen demons with his eyes filled with tears of grief and rage. We see Femto almost unmoving as he rapes Casca, giving Guts an emotionless KubrickStare. We see the faces of Ubik and Slan, as Slan says how beautiful it is to her. And lastly, we see from the perspective of Guts' right eye as the demon's claw pierces it, engraving the image into his mind forever.
3rd May '16 2:19:19 AM TitanFireFlies
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[[caption-width-right:322:"Hatred is nothing but the place where men who can't deal with sadness go."]]

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[[caption-width-right:322:"Hatred [[caption-width-right:322:''"Hatred is nothing but the place where men who can't deal with sadness go."]]
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26th Apr '16 7:46:04 PM TheBigBopper
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* The end of chapter 330 of the manga. Chich, the little elf that Guts encountered in prison as a boy before meeting the Band of the Hawk, used up all of her power to selflessly help him. Healing his wounds, giving him water, and providing warmth caused her flower to wilt and die. And after all that, the flower provides a distraction that manages to save Guts from getting shot with a crossbow. Guts, who offered to plant her in a meadow where he saw other flowers like her, can only hold a little funeral of sorts for her there afterward. His [[FacialDialogue face alone]] speaks volumes.
** This scene is even more tragic because of the contrast with one of the earliest scenes in the manga; the bit where Puck rescues Guts from a prison cell. Just look at how gentle and kind the younger Guts was when he met an elf that was even more of a MotorMouth SmallAnnoyingCreature than Puck, and compare that with the way Guts treats Puck at the start. It also provides a possible reason for Guts being so cold towards Puck, if he didn't want a repeat of what happened to Chich.

!Video Games
* In the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]] video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad.

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* The end of chapter 330 of the manga. Chich, Chitch, the little elf that Guts encountered in prison as a boy before meeting the Band of the Hawk, used up all of her power to selflessly help him. Healing his wounds, giving him water, and providing warmth caused her flower to wilt and die. And after all that, the flower provides a distraction that manages to save Guts from getting shot with a crossbow. Guts, who offered to plant her in a meadow where he saw other flowers like her, can only hold a little funeral of sorts for her there afterward. His [[FacialDialogue face alone]] speaks volumes.
** This scene is even more tragic because of the contrast with one of the earliest scenes in the manga; the bit where Puck rescues Guts from a prison cell. Just look at how gentle and kind the younger Guts was when he met an elf that was even more of a MotorMouth SmallAnnoyingCreature than Puck, and compare that with the way Guts treats Puck at the start. It also provides a possible reason for Guts being so cold towards Puck, if he didn't want a repeat of what happened to Chich.

!Video Games
* In the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]] video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad.
Chitch.
23rd Feb '16 3:59:16 PM nabu-san
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* In the boat on the way to Elfheim, Casca accidentally falls into the water, only with Guts trying to catch her...with his prostethic left hand. Of course he fails to avoid her falling into the water, and though no one is seriously hurt, Guts realizes that even though he wants to protect her and hopes for their relationship to heal if she gets her sanity back, neither is guaranteed to happen. His doubts and resentment at Casca's state are still present.
-->"Even if we painstakingly piece together something lost, I guess it doesn't mean it will be back to normal."
15th Feb '16 6:06:23 PM GrammarNavi
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* In the PS2 video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad.

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* In the PS2 [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]] video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad.
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