History TearJerker / Berserk

29th Oct '15 6:19:39 AM Mysky
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* The Eclipse. A rare example that manages to seamlessly weave TearJerker with horror.
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* The Eclipse. A rare example that manages to seamlessly weave TearJerker with [[NightmareFuel horror.]]
20th Oct '15 9:13:46 PM TheBigBopper
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moving this to Guts' Rage page
* If we were to interject with the non-canonical 2000 Dreamcast game ''Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage'' [[spoiler: toward the end, after Guts defeats a huge mandragora monster that was possessing Casca, she regains her memory for a brief moment, since the mandragora makes sane people insane and vice versa in Casca's state. The two can only share a fragment of a moment with each before the possession wears off and Casca reverts back to her insane state, leaving Guts in utter despair once again.]] ** In the PS2 video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad. -->'''Guts''': "When was the last time she smiled?"
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* If we were to interject with the non-canonical 2000 Dreamcast game ''Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage'' [[spoiler: toward the end, after Guts defeats a huge mandragora monster that was possessing Casca, she regains her memory for a brief moment, since the mandragora makes sane people insane and vice versa in Casca's state. The two can only share a fragment of a moment with each before the possession wears off and Casca reverts back to her insane state, leaving Guts in utter despair once again.]] ** In the PS2 video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad. -->'''Guts''': '''Guts''': "When was the last time she smiled?"

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!Video Games * If we were to interject with the non-canonical 2000 Dreamcast game ''Sword of the Berserk: Guts' Rage'' [[spoiler: toward the end, after Guts defeats a huge mandragora monster that was possessing Casca, she regains her memory for a brief moment, since the mandragora makes sane people insane and vice versa in Casca's state. The two can only share a fragment of a moment with each before the possession wears off and Casca reverts back to her insane state, leaving Guts in utter despair once again.]] ** In the PS2 video game, there is a scene where the Band of the Hawk is re-animated by the BigBad of the game (I can't be really precise since there's a lack of translations circulating). Guts has to fight all of them, including Casca as she was before she went insane, and once each of them is defeated, they fade away while making their own, what I think would be, emotional departure. Casca's scene is especially emotional from what I can tell, as she is dying/disappearing in Guts' arms. They share some words, and as she tenderly strokes Guts' cheek, she disappears. After seeing both scenes from both video games, I sense a lot of DiedInYourArmsTonight motifs with Guts and Casca. Doesn't make it any less sad. -->'''Guts''': "When was the last time she smiled?"
28th Sep '15 10:15:46 AM MechWarrior
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*** After [[spoiler: Judeau dies and she's surrounded by apostles, Casca gives one last shot at trying to defend herself by picking up Judeau's sword and charging at the apostles [[BerserkerTears in rage and tears.]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Though she goes against them pretty valiantly considering the situation,]] Casca is still no match for the apostles as they break the sword and then start discussing [[FateWorseThanDeath what they intend to do with her.]] All Casca can do is stand there [[OhCrap utterly petrified]], let the tears fall, and say one name: "''Guts...''"]] You know what happens next....
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*** After [[spoiler: Judeau dies and she's surrounded by apostles, Casca gives one last shot at trying to defend herself by picking up Judeau's sword and charging at the apostles [[BerserkerTears in rage and tears.]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Though she goes against them pretty valiantly considering the situation,]] Casca is still no match for the apostles as they break the sword and then start discussing [[FateWorseThanDeath what they intend to do with her.]] All Casca can do is stand there [[OhCrap utterly petrified]], let the tears fall, and say one name: "''Guts...''"]] You know what happens next....

*** Seeing Guts in such [[DespairEventHorizon emotional despair]] after feeling the true weight of its aftermath, especially after seeing how broken Casca was and the realization that they [[StarCrossedLovers could never have the intimate relationship]] that they had planned on before everything turned to crap. [[HeartBrokenBadass Poor Guts]].
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*** Seeing Guts in such [[DespairEventHorizon emotional despair]] after feeling the true weight of its aftermath, especially after seeing how broken Casca was and the realization that they [[StarCrossedLovers could never have the intimate relationship]] that they had planned on before everything turned to crap. [[HeartBrokenBadass [[HeartbrokenBadass Poor Guts]].

* Seeing Guts as the Black Swordsman at the end of the Golden Age storyline, walking into the darkness alone. Some fans may describe this as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome a badass moment]] in Guts' story, which you can rightfully claim too, but this moment makes me extremely sad, especially in the movie interpretation. Why? Because Guts is shown to have such capacity for optimism, hope, and happiness, not to mention that the creative team behind the movie obviously went through the effort to make Guts look very cute and just damn adorable in so many moments (fangirls particularly like how Guts was given "pouty lips"). Mentioning that says a lot about Guts, since you can hardly imagine the guy who was smiling and twirling around in a ballroom was the same guy who gruesomely slaughtered a hundred enemy soldier weeks prior. And seeing Guts warmly smiling at Casca and crippled Griffith in the first half of the movie is so heartbreaking when you finally watch the Eclipse... and then the final scene of the movie shows Guts as this dark, gloomy, brooding, scary, monster of a man who had every fiber of his being destroyed and his heart and soul uninhabitable for happiness. Seeing Guts become the Black Swordsman broke my heart.
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* Seeing Guts as the Black Swordsman at the end of the Golden Age storyline, walking into the darkness alone. Some fans may describe this as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome a badass moment]] in Guts' story, which you can rightfully claim too, but this moment makes me extremely sad, especially in the movie interpretation. Why? Because Guts is shown to have such capacity for optimism, hope, and happiness, not to mention that the creative team behind the movie obviously went through the effort to make Guts look very cute and just damn adorable in so many moments (fangirls particularly like how Guts was given "pouty lips"). Mentioning that says a lot about Guts, since you can hardly imagine the guy who was smiling and twirling around in a ballroom was the same guy who gruesomely slaughtered a hundred enemy soldier weeks prior. And seeing Guts warmly smiling at Casca and crippled Griffith in the first half of the movie is so heartbreaking when you finally watch the Eclipse... and then the final scene of the movie shows Guts as this dark, gloomy, brooding, scary, monster of a man who had every fiber of his being destroyed and his heart and soul uninhabitable for happiness. Seeing Guts become the Black Swordsman broke my heart.
6th Sep '15 8:39:09 PM TheBigBopper
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* Chapter 204, "Enoch Village", shows that even disposable bystanders' deaths can be horribly tragic. Hannah and Ted were married just four days before the trolls attacked the village. There was also Hannah's brother Horace; all three of them grew up together as childhood friends. Ted gets mauled and eaten alive, and Hannah tries to save him only to get raped. Horace tries to save his sister but gets gruesomely beaten to death, and the trolls carry Hannah off to their lair. It gets even worse in Chapter 216, "taint", when we see how the Troll rape captured women causing them to die from giving birth to troll fetuses that claw their way out. Farnese runs into Hannah just in time to witness her pitifully beg for help before dying horribly. It's hard to read about innocent, happy lives getting destroyed in such a loathsome and evil way--you just feel like crying and vomiting at the same time.
17th Aug '15 6:55:00 PM TheBigBopper
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[[caption-width-right:322:"Hatred is nothing but the place where men who can't deal with sadness go."]]
17th Aug '15 6:48:36 PM TheBigBopper
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Pippin opened his eyes and spoke on at least three occasions in the manga; the Eclipse was the last but definitely not the first.
** Fortunately he then finds out women just can't resist a good, honest [[{{TheWoobie}} woobie]] and his life briefly becomes [[{{IntimateHealing}} a lot better.]]
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** Fortunately he then finds out women that even after all this Casca accepts him just can't resist a good, honest [[{{TheWoobie}} woobie]] as he is, and his life briefly becomes [[{{IntimateHealing}} a lot better.]]

** [[spoiler:Pippin]]'s HeroicSacrifice, made all the sadder because it only bought Casca a few minutes at most. Even worse, it's also the first and last time he ever speaks or opens his eyes in the series. Casca can only watch helplessly as [[spoiler:Pippin]] is slowly but surely overwhelmed by Apostles. To add insult to injury, [[spoiler:the Count plays with Pippin's ''hollowed out corpse'' just to torment Guts]]. Guts' cruelty towards [[spoiler:the Count]] when they meet again becomes a lot more understandable.
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** [[spoiler:Pippin]]'s HeroicSacrifice, made all the sadder because it only bought Casca a few minutes at most. Even worse, it's also the first and last time he ever speaks or opens his eyes in the series. Casca can only watch helplessly as [[spoiler:Pippin]] is slowly but surely overwhelmed by Apostles. To add insult to injury, [[spoiler:the Count plays with Pippin's ''hollowed out corpse'' just to torment Guts]]. Guts' cruelty towards [[spoiler:the Count]] when they meet again becomes a lot more understandable.
16th Aug '15 2:32:41 PM TheBigBopper
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* In the chapter "The Brand", Guts decides on a whim to travel in the company of other people, reasoning that it's their loss if they aren't afraid of his curse. Colette's father assures him that they're safe from evil spirits since he's a priest, and Colette gives Guts a wineskin and blanket while exhibiting a cute PrecociousCrush on him. Come night, however, Guts is unable to protect them from the demons attracted by the brand. When he sees Colette's possessed corpse holding her father's head, Guts has a HeroicBSOD and doesn't snap out of it until she has already stabbed him in the side, whereupon he cuts her in half and fights off the demons all night long. In the morning Puck tries to tell him that it wasn't his fault that they died, but Guts represses the remorse he actually feels with a laughing fit and a cynical speech about how the weak might as well die. This just goes to show why Guts tries to drive people away from him: this is what happens if he doesn't. What's more, the voices of the demons linger at the break of dawn chanting that every drop of his body belongs to them, and that they will never leave him alone until they have claimed their sacrifice. He is doomed, and completely alone in his suffering. --> '''Puck:''' This is the world Guts lives in.
16th Aug '15 2:00:49 PM TheBigBopper
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* The Guardians of Desire story arc begins with a young woman on the executioner's scaffold, accused of heresy. She protests her innocence to the Count and begs for mercy, but he just watches with amusement as the ax beheads her. Guts picks up her severed head to see her facial expression froze with terror. Then a little boy screamed "Sis!" and tries to run to her severed head, only for a guard to hit him and warns he'll have him killed too or thrown into the dungeon. There's an implication that the boy lost his only family.

** The story arc begins with a young woman in the gallows, accused of heresy. She cries and screams, until she was beheaded. Guts picks up her severed head to see her facial expression froze with despair. Then a little boy screamed "Sis!" and tries to run to her severed head, only for a guard to hit him and warns he'll have him killed too or thrown into the dungeon. There's an implication that the boy lost his only family.
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** * The one that rounds out the "Guardians of Desire" story arc begins is when Theresia is screaming IllKillYou at Guts, and he wishes her luck with a young woman that as he turns away. Puck is about to berate him more for being so heartless towards her, but when he draws close he realizes that Guts is '''''crying''''' and trying to hide it. If you are reading from the start of the manga for the first time, and haven't picked up on the subtle moments up to this point hinting at Guts' JerkassFacade, this is full-blown WhamShot. Everything Puck thought he knew, and everything ''you'' thought you knew about Guts, is wrong. All that time, he was being cruel to people like Vargas and Theresia because he saw his own tragic past in them, and didn't want to cause their deaths or let his own soft-heartedness get in the gallows, accused way of heresy. She cries his revenge. He probably felt [[TearsOfRemorse remorse]] for ruining Theresia's life and screams, until might have wished there was something he could do for her, but he felt his only choice was to make her hate him so that she was beheaded. Guts picks up her severed head to see her facial wouldn't kill herself. Once he gets over his shock, Puck's expression froze with despair. Then a little boy screamed "Sis!" turns to pity and tries to run to her severed head, only for a guard to hit him and warns he'll have him killed too or thrown into the dungeon. There's an implication that the boy lost his only family. he sadly mutters, --> '''Puck''':"Guts..."
7th Jun '15 8:30:33 PM TheBigBopper
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%%From here on, try to keep these in the order they are presented in the manga
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%%From here on, try to keep these in the order they are presented in the manga !The Black Swordsman Arc

%%From here on, try to keep these in the order they are presented in the manga !The Golden Age Arc

%%From here on, try to keep these in the order * Poor Griffith after [[spoiler:his year of torture. When Guts finally rescued him and they are presented in saw each other for the manga first time in a year, Griffith raised his hand to Guts' neck. Guts was too stricken with grief to notice that Griffith hated him now, and he just cried over his disfigured body.]] At this point, stuff like this happened regularly, such as [[spoiler:Griffith learning of Guts and Casca's relationship,]] and [[spoiler:his pathetic attempts at suicide.]] Despite all the stuff he's done after, sometimes one can still feel sympathy for the poor sucker. ** After what he went through, [[MoralEventHorizon what he]] [[TheAntiChrist became]] is '''completely understandable.''' Which only makes it ''EVEN WORSE.'' *** Good thing you added that last part, considering how you can take [[BaseBreaker Griffith's]] [[DracoInLeatherPants predicament.]] **** The capacity for Griffith to be interpreted as a [[DracoInLeatherPants misunderstood bad boy]] is a TearJerker in itself: whether because you don't want to believe he could really do that, or because you just want it to go back to the way it was, or because knowing what we do now [[spoiler: about the Idea of Evil and causality]] calls his free will and his actions before the Eclipse into question... and it just doesn't matter. What's done is done, unless ''something'' happens to make it right again. Is it any wonder that ''even the readers wish it would just go away?''

%%From here on, try to keep these * Seeing Guts as the Black Swordsman at the end of the Golden Age storyline, walking into the darkness alone. Some fans may describe this as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome a badass moment]] in Guts' story, which you can rightfully claim too, but this moment makes me extremely sad, especially in the order they are presented movie interpretation. Why? Because Guts is shown to have such capacity for optimism, hope, and happiness, not to mention that the creative team behind the movie obviously went through the effort to make Guts look very cute and just damn adorable in so many moments (fangirls particularly like how Guts was given "pouty lips"). Mentioning that says a lot about Guts, since you can hardly imagine the guy who was smiling and twirling around in a ballroom was the same guy who gruesomely slaughtered a hundred enemy soldier weeks prior. And seeing Guts warmly smiling at Casca and crippled Griffith in the manga first half of the movie is so heartbreaking when you finally watch the Eclipse... and then the final scene of the movie shows Guts as this dark, gloomy, brooding, scary, monster of a man who had every fiber of his being destroyed and his heart and soul uninhabitable for happiness. Seeing Guts become the Black Swordsman broke my heart. ** The final few minutes of the movie in particular were one big tear jerker. As far as sad moments go, it was exceptionally well done: the look on Guts' face when he sees Casca's condition, the mournful music playing in the background as he runs through the field, etc. all adds up to show the pain of a man who has lost everything he loved. When the credits roll, one can see all too clearly that the man who the viewer has grown to love is now a much darker person.

* When [[spoiler: Schierke's teacher Flora dies]]. ** Oh God! That bit affected me worse than any other death in the series! Even though [[spoiler: Flora dies reminding Schierke that death is nothing to fear for witches like them,]] I completely cracked up when [[spoiler: Schierke]] answered "But...I'll be...lonely" with tears streaming down her face. It may not be particularly eloquent or heroic, but it's without a doubt one of the most ''honest'' reactions to the death of a loved one I've ever read. And [[spoiler: Schierke]] being such a {{Moe}} ShrinkingViolet with NoSocialSkills at the best of times only made it worse, as she has just lost the only person she is truly comfortable with, and (at the time) sees little hope of having that sort of companionship ever again. *** Not to mention the fact that her next thoughts are of how [[spoiler: the beautiful, tranquil house in the woods where she spent so many happy days]] has burnt up. * Also when Guts meets [[spoiler: Griffith]] again, and [[spoiler: Griffith]] said that he met Guts to see if he'd feel anything, but realized that nothing would sway his heart, and Guts yells [[spoiler: "''Nothing?! All that you did?! Everyone you betrayed?! And you don't feel one thing?!''"]] What makes this even worse is the whole scene takes place at [[spoiler: the graveyard of the Band of the Hawk, the people that Griffith betrayed and killed]]. OUCH. ** Not to mention poor Rickert would have brought [[spoiler: Griffith]] up there having no clue what he had done and was overjoyed to tears at his return only to have to watch as Guts appears and tries to kill [[spoiler: Griffith]] in confusion and try to stop the fight only to be told of the Hawks fate by Guts afterwords. ** Additionally, that's not actually the first time they met [[spoiler: after the Eclipse]]. It's pretty easy to forget, since for just about everyone the story only really starts with the several-volumes-long flashback to Guts' youth, but if you go back to the very beginning of the story, you'll remember that Guts met the entire God Hand again after he nearly killed the Count. It's not as jarring as it could be at first, since at that point you're not entirely aware of who exactly they are and what the relationship between Femto and Guts is, but if you go ahead and re-read the series, seeing the way Femto speaks to and of Guts is quite sad; This is, chronologically speaking, the first time we hear [[spoiler: Griffith ''speaking'' as Femto; you didn't really need to hear him open his mouth to know he was a monster, since his actions during the Eclipse cement that beyond reasonable doubt; hearing him talk so haughty, arrogant, callous, and dismissively of someone he malignantly betrayed and tortured (partly for his own amusement) is just the nail in the coffin)]]
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* When [[spoiler: Schierke's teacher Flora dies]]. ** Oh God! That bit affected me worse than any other death in the series! Even though [[spoiler: Flora dies reminding Schierke that death is nothing to fear for witches like them,]] I completely cracked up when [[spoiler: Schierke]] answered "But...I'll be...lonely" with tears streaming down her face. It may not be particularly eloquent or heroic, but it's without a doubt one of the most ''honest'' reactions to the death of a loved one I've ever read. And [[spoiler: Schierke]] being such a {{Moe}} ShrinkingViolet with NoSocialSkills at the best of times only made it worse, as she has just lost the only person she is truly comfortable with, and (at the time) sees little hope of having that sort of companionship ever again. *** Not to mention the fact that her next thoughts are of how [[spoiler: the beautiful, tranquil house in the woods where she spent so many happy days]] has burnt up. * Also when Guts meets [[spoiler: Griffith]] again, and [[spoiler: Griffith]] said that he met Guts to see if he'd feel anything, but realized that nothing would sway his heart, and Guts yells [[spoiler: "''Nothing?! All that you did?! Everyone you betrayed?! And you don't feel one thing?!''"]] What makes this even worse is the whole scene takes place at [[spoiler: the graveyard of the Band of the Hawk, the people that Griffith betrayed and killed]]. OUCH. ** Not to mention poor Rickert would have brought [[spoiler: Griffith]] up there having no clue what he had done and was overjoyed to tears at his return only to have to watch as Guts appears and tries to kill [[spoiler: Griffith]] in confusion and try to stop the fight only to be told of the Hawks fate by Guts afterwords. ** Additionally, that's not actually the first time they met [[spoiler: after the Eclipse]]. It's pretty easy to forget, since for just about everyone the story only really starts with the several-volumes-long flashback to Guts' youth, but if you go back to the very beginning of the story, you'll remember that Guts met the entire God Hand again after he nearly killed the Count. It's not as jarring as it could be at first, since at that point you're not entirely aware of who exactly they are and what the relationship between Femto and Guts is, but if you go ahead and re-read the series, seeing the way Femto speaks to and of Guts is quite sad; This is, chronologically speaking, the first time we hear [[spoiler: Griffith ''speaking'' as Femto; you didn't really need to hear him open his mouth to know he was a monster, since his actions during the Eclipse cement that beyond reasonable doubt; hearing him talk so haughty, arrogant, callous, and dismissively of someone he malignantly betrayed and tortured (partly for his own amusement) is just the nail in the coffin)]] !Conviction Arc: Lost Children

* Poor Griffith after [[spoiler:his year of torture. When Guts finally rescued him and they saw each other for the first time in a year, Griffith raised his hand to Guts' neck. Guts was too stricken with grief to notice that Griffith hated him now, and he just cried over his disfigured body.]] At this point, stuff like this happened regularly, such as [[spoiler:Griffith learning of Guts and Casca's relationship,]] and [[spoiler:his pathetic attempts at suicide.]] Despite all the stuff he's done after, sometimes one can still feel sympathy for the poor sucker. ** After what he went through, [[MoralEventHorizon what he]] [[TheAntiChrist became]] is '''completely understandable.''' Which only makes it ''EVEN WORSE.'' *** Good thing you added that last part, considering how you can take [[BaseBreaker Griffith's]] [[DracoInLeatherPants predicament.]] **** The capacity for Griffith to be interpreted as a [[DracoInLeatherPants misunderstood bad boy]] is a TearJerker in itself: whether because you don't want to believe he could really do that, or because you just want it to go back to the way it was, or because knowing what we do now [[spoiler: about the Idea of Evil and causality]] calls his free will and his actions before the Eclipse into question... and it just doesn't matter. What's done is done, unless ''something'' happens to make it right again. Is it any wonder that ''even the readers wish it would just go away?'' * Seeing Guts as the Black Swordsman at the end of the Golden Age storyline, walking into the darkness alone. Some fans may describe this as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome a badass moment]] in Guts' story, which you can rightfully claim too, but this moment makes me extremely sad, especially in the movie interpretation. Why? Because Guts is shown to have such capacity for optimism, hope, and happiness, not to mention that the creative team behind the movie obviously went through the effort to make Guts look very cute and just damn adorable in so many moments (fangirls particularly like how Guts was given "pouty lips"). Mentioning that says a lot about Guts, since you can hardly imagine the guy who was smiling and twirling around in a ballroom was the same guy who gruesomely slaughtered a hundred enemy soldier weeks prior. And seeing Guts warmly smiling at Casca and crippled Griffith in the first half of the movie is so heartbreaking when you finally watch the Eclipse... and then the final scene of the movie shows Guts as this dark, gloomy, brooding, scary, monster of a man who had every fiber of his being destroyed and his heart and soul uninhabitable for happiness. Seeing Guts become the Black Swordsman broke my heart. ** The final few minutes of the movie in particular were one big tear jerker. As far as sad moments go, it was exceptionally well done: the look on Guts' face when he sees Casca's condition, the mournful music playing in the background as he runs through the field, etc. all adds up to show the pain of a man who has lost everything he loved. When the credits roll, one can see all too clearly that the man who the viewer has grown to love is now a much darker person.
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!Hawk of the Millennium Empire Arc: Holy Demon War * Poor Guts meets [[spoiler: Griffith]] again, and [[spoiler: Griffith]] said that he met Guts to see if he'd feel anything, but realized that nothing would sway his heart, and Guts yells [[spoiler: "''Nothing?! All that you did?! Everyone you betrayed?! And you don't feel one thing?!''"]] What makes this even worse is the whole scene takes place at [[spoiler: the graveyard of the Band of the Hawk, the people that Griffith after [[spoiler:his year of torture. When betrayed and killed]]. OUCH. ** Not to mention poor Rickert would have brought [[spoiler: Griffith]] up there having no clue what he had done and was overjoyed to tears at his return only to have to watch as Guts finally rescued him appears and they saw each other for tries to kill [[spoiler: Griffith]] in confusion and try to stop the fight only to be told of the Hawks fate by Guts afterwords. ** Additionally, that's not actually the first time in a year, Griffith raised his hand they met [[spoiler: after the Eclipse]]. It's pretty easy to forget, since for just about everyone the story only really starts with the several-volumes-long flashback to Guts' neck. Guts was too stricken with grief to notice that Griffith hated him now, and he just cried over his disfigured body.]] At this point, stuff like this happened regularly, such as [[spoiler:Griffith learning of Guts and Casca's relationship,]] and [[spoiler:his pathetic attempts at suicide.]] Despite all the stuff he's done after, sometimes one can still feel sympathy for the poor sucker. ** After what he went through, [[MoralEventHorizon what he]] [[TheAntiChrist became]] is '''completely understandable.''' Which only makes it ''EVEN WORSE.'' *** Good thing youth, but if you added that last part, considering how you can take [[BaseBreaker Griffith's]] [[DracoInLeatherPants predicament.]] **** The capacity for Griffith to be interpreted as a [[DracoInLeatherPants misunderstood bad boy]] is a TearJerker in itself: whether because you don't want to believe he could really do that, or because you just want it to go back to the way very beginning of the story, you'll remember that Guts met the entire God Hand again after he nearly killed the Count. It's not as jarring as it was, or because knowing could be at first, since at that point you're not entirely aware of who exactly they are and what the relationship between Femto and Guts is, but if you go ahead and re-read the series, seeing the way Femto speaks to and of Guts is quite sad; This is, chronologically speaking, the first time we do now hear [[spoiler: about the Idea of Evil and causality]] calls Griffith ''speaking'' as Femto; you didn't really need to hear him open his free will and mouth to know he was a monster, since his actions before during the Eclipse into question... cement that beyond reasonable doubt; hearing him talk so haughty, arrogant, callous, and it dismissively of someone he malignantly betrayed and tortured (partly for his own amusement) is just doesn't matter. What's done is done, unless ''something'' happens to make it right again. Is it any wonder that ''even the readers wish it would just go away?'' * Seeing Guts as the Black Swordsman at the end of the Golden Age storyline, walking into the darkness alone. Some fans may describe this as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome a badass moment]] in Guts' story, which you can rightfully claim too, but this moment makes me extremely sad, especially nail in the movie interpretation. Why? Because Guts is shown to have such capacity for optimism, hope, and happiness, not to mention that the creative team behind the movie obviously went through the effort to make Guts look very cute and just damn adorable in so many moments (fangirls particularly like how Guts was given "pouty lips"). Mentioning that says a lot about Guts, since you can hardly imagine the guy who was smiling and twirling around in a ballroom was the same guy who gruesomely slaughtered a hundred enemy soldier weeks prior. And seeing Guts warmly smiling at Casca and crippled Griffith in the first half of the movie is so heartbreaking when you finally watch the Eclipse... and then the final scene of the movie shows Guts as this dark, gloomy, brooding, scary, monster of a man who had every fiber of his being destroyed and his heart and soul uninhabitable for happiness. Seeing Guts become the Black Swordsman broke my heart. ** The final few minutes of the movie in particular were one big tear jerker. As far as sad moments go, it was exceptionally well done: the look on Guts' face when he sees Casca's condition, the mournful music playing in the background as he runs through the field, etc. all adds up to show the pain of a man who has lost everything he loved. When the credits roll, one can see all too clearly that the man who the viewer has grown to love is now a much darker person.coffin)]]

* Poor Griffith after [[spoiler:his year of torture. When Guts finally rescued him and they saw each other for the first time in a year, Griffith raised his hand to Guts' neck. Guts was too stricken with grief to notice that Griffith hated him now, and he just cried over his disfigured body.]] At this point, stuff like this happened regularly, such as [[spoiler:Griffith learning of Guts and Casca's relationship,]] and [[spoiler:his pathetic attempts at suicide.]] Despite all the stuff he's done after, sometimes one can still feel sympathy for the poor sucker. ** After what he went through, [[MoralEventHorizon what he]] [[TheAntiChrist became]] is '''completely understandable.''' Which only makes it ''EVEN WORSE.'' *** Good thing you added that last part, considering how you can take [[BaseBreaker Griffith's]] [[DracoInLeatherPants predicament.]] **** The capacity for Griffith to be interpreted as a [[DracoInLeatherPants misunderstood bad boy]] is a TearJerker in itself: whether because you don't want to believe he could really do that, or because you just want it to go back to the way it was, or because knowing what we do now [[spoiler: about the Idea of Evil and causality]] calls his free will and his actions before the Eclipse into question... and it just doesn't matter. What's done is done, unless ''something'' happens to make it right again. Is it Schierke's teacher Flora dies]]. ** Oh God! That bit affected me worse than any wonder that ''even the readers wish it would just go away?'' * Seeing Guts as the Black Swordsman at the end of the Golden Age storyline, walking into the darkness alone. Some fans may describe this as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome a badass moment]] in Guts' story, which you can rightfully claim too, but this moment makes me extremely sad, especially other death in the movie interpretation. Why? Because Guts is shown to have such capacity for optimism, hope, and happiness, not to mention series! Even though [[spoiler: Flora dies reminding Schierke that the creative team behind the movie obviously went through the effort death is nothing to make Guts look very cute and just damn adorable in so many moments (fangirls fear for witches like them,]] I completely cracked up when [[spoiler: Schierke]] answered "But...I'll be...lonely" with tears streaming down her face. It may not be particularly like how Guts was given "pouty lips"). Mentioning eloquent or heroic, but it's without a doubt one of the most ''honest'' reactions to the death of a loved one I've ever read. And [[spoiler: Schierke]] being such a {{Moe}} ShrinkingViolet with NoSocialSkills at the best of times only made it worse, as she has just lost the only person she is truly comfortable with, and (at the time) sees little hope of having that says a lot about Guts, since you can hardly imagine sort of companionship ever again. *** Not to mention the guy who was smiling and twirling around in a ballroom was fact that her next thoughts are of how [[spoiler: the same guy who gruesomely slaughtered a hundred enemy soldier weeks prior. And seeing Guts warmly smiling at Casca and crippled Griffith beautiful, tranquil house in the first half of the movie is woods where she spent so heartbreaking when you finally watch the Eclipse... and then the final scene of the movie shows Guts as this dark, gloomy, brooding, scary, monster of a man who had every fiber of his being destroyed and his heart and soul uninhabitable for happiness. Seeing Guts become the Black Swordsman broke my heart. ** The final few minutes of the movie in particular were one big tear jerker. As far as sad moments go, it was exceptionally well done: the look on Guts' face when he sees Casca's condition, the mournful music playing in the background as he runs through the field, etc. all adds up to show the pain of a man who many happy days]] has lost everything he loved. When the credits roll, one can see all too clearly that the man who the viewer has grown to love is now a much darker person.burnt up.

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*** Made all the worse by the fact that Guts' desperation to protect Casca, combined with his own frustrations and inner conflicts means that his [[EnemyWithin Black Dog]] will keep trying to kill Casca because she is literally the only thing that is stopping Guts from becoming a monster. If Guts abandons her, the Black Dog wins, if he stays with her he puts her (and anyone in a ten mile radius) in danger from himself and the huge number of ghosts that are attracted to two branded people... Guts situation isn't just depressingly bleak, it's heart breakingly hopeless * The end of episode 330 of the manga. Chich, the little elf that Guts encountered in prison as a boy before meeting the Band of the Hawk, used up all of her power to selflessly help him. Healing his wounds, giving him water, and providing warmth caused her flower to wilt and die. And after all that, the flower provides a distraction that manages to save Guts from getting shot with a crossbow. Guts, who offered to plant her in a meadow where he saw other flowers like her, can only hold a little funeral of sorts for her there afterward. His [[FacialDialogue face alone]] speaks volumes.
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*** Made all the worse by the fact that Guts' desperation to protect Casca, combined with his own frustrations and inner conflicts means that his [[EnemyWithin Black Dog]] will keep trying to kill Casca because she is literally the only thing that is stopping Guts from becoming a monster. If Guts abandons her, the Black Dog wins, if he stays with her he puts her (and anyone in a ten mile radius) in danger from himself and the huge number of ghosts that are attracted to two branded people... Guts situation isn't just depressingly bleak, it's heart breakingly hopeless hopeless. !Fantasia Arc: Elf Island * The end of episode chapter 330 of the manga. Chich, the little elf that Guts encountered in prison as a boy before meeting the Band of the Hawk, used up all of her power to selflessly help him. Healing his wounds, giving him water, and providing warmth caused her flower to wilt and die. And after all that, the flower provides a distraction that manages to save Guts from getting shot with a crossbow. Guts, who offered to plant her in a meadow where he saw other flowers like her, can only hold a little funeral of sorts for her there afterward. His [[FacialDialogue face alone]] speaks volumes.
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*** Made all the worse by the fact that Guts' desperation to protect Casca, combined with his own frustrations and inner conflicts means that his [[EnemnyWithin Black Dog]] will keep trying to kill Casca because she is literally the only thing that is stopping Guts from becoming a monster. If Guts abandons her, the Black Dog wins, if he stays with her he puts her (and anyone in a ten mile radius) in danger from himself and the huge number of ghosts that are attracted to two branded people... Guts situation isn't just depressingly bleak, it's heart breakingly hopeless
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*** Made all the worse by the fact that Guts' desperation to protect Casca, combined with his own frustrations and inner conflicts means that his [[EnemnyWithin [[EnemyWithin Black Dog]] will keep trying to kill Casca because she is literally the only thing that is stopping Guts from becoming a monster. If Guts abandons her, the Black Dog wins, if he stays with her he puts her (and anyone in a ten mile radius) in danger from himself and the huge number of ghosts that are attracted to two branded people... Guts situation isn't just depressingly bleak, it's heart breakingly hopeless
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