History TearJerker / BatmanBeyond

22nd Apr '18 8:07:14 PM Lopiny
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-->'''[[spoiler:Tony]]''' No... Didn't. Want. Partner.

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-->'''[[spoiler:Tony]]''' No...'''No... Didn't. Want. Partner.Partner!'''
22nd Apr '18 8:06:24 PM Lopiny
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-->'''Bill:''' Oh my God... [[spoiler:Tony]]?
-->'''[[spoiler:Tony]]:''' '''You... left. Me. BURIED.'''
-->'''Bill:''' I thought you were dead...
-->'''[[spoiler:Tony]]''' No... Didn't. Want. Partner.
-->'''Bill:''' That's not true! There was nothing I could do for you, ''nothing''!
29th Mar '18 7:25:34 PM N.Harmonik
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** Speaking of Barbara Gordon, despite her past as Batgirl, when she makes her official debut, Barbara also seemed to lost faith in vigilantism much like Bruce initially, refusing to accept Terry as the new Batman and even threatening to arrest him for unlawful vigilantism. Fortunately, after the events of "Eyewitness," Barbara buries the hatchet with Terry and begins to renew her faith in superheroes much like Bruce in the series opening episodes.

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** Speaking of Barbara Gordon, despite her past as Batgirl, when she makes her official debut, Barbara also seemed to lost lose faith in vigilantism much like Bruce initially, refusing to accept Terry as the new Batman and even threatening to arrest him for unlawful vigilantism. Fortunately, after the events of "Eyewitness," Barbara buries the hatchet with Terry and begins to renew her faith in superheroes much like Bruce in the series opening episodes.



* "Heroes": It's basically a dark and tragic {{deconstruction}} of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's origin, with three scientists becoming superheroes after [[FreakLabAccident a particle experiment gone wrong]]. Although they're granted public support, their conditions prevent them from having normal lives and it's eventually revealed that their powers will eventually ''kill'' them. Even worse, their so called "friend" Howard Hodges [[MurderTheHypotenuse set up the accident so that he could be with the female member]]. Seeking revenge, [[ShootTheShaggyDog they all die horribly in a fight with Terry]] and Hodges ''[[KarmaHoudini gets off scot free]]''. How would Bruce feel? Just because the writers were particularly sadistic that day, Hodges is actually ''horrified'' when the [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone full realization of sending his former friends and the woman he loved so much to their grisly deaths finally hits him]]. Somehow it hurts ''even more'' than if he just walked away smelling like roses.

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* "Heroes": It's basically a dark and tragic {{deconstruction}} of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's origin, with three scientists becoming superheroes after [[FreakLabAccident a particle experiment gone wrong]]. Although they're granted public support, their conditions prevent them from having normal lives and it's eventually revealed that their powers will eventually ''kill'' them. Even worse, their so called "friend" Howard Hodges [[MurderTheHypotenuse set up the accident so that he could be with the female member]]. Seeking revenge, [[ShootTheShaggyDog they all die horribly in a fight with Terry]] and Hodges ''[[KarmaHoudini gets off scot free]]''. How would Bruce feel? Just because the writers were particularly sadistic that day, Hodges is actually ''horrified'' when the [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone full realization of sending his former friends and the woman he loved so much to their grisly deaths finally hits him]]. Somehow it hurts ''even more'' than if he just walked away smelling like roses.
16th Feb '18 8:51:18 AM infernape612
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-->'''Terry:''' ''[tears in his eyes]'' I yelled at him, Mom. He grounded me, and I wouldn't listen. [[PartingWordsRegret The things I said...]] ''[his mom hugs him]'' I'm such a jerk...

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-->'''Terry:''' --->'''Terry:''' ''[tears in his eyes]'' I yelled at him, Mom. He grounded me, and I wouldn't listen. [[PartingWordsRegret The things I said...]] ''[his mom hugs him]'' I'm such a jerk...



--> '''Terry:''' (In response to the above) [[SarcasmMode ''Right.'']]

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--> ---> '''Terry:''' (In ''[in response to the above) above]'' [[SarcasmMode ''Right.'']]Right.]]



--> '''Magma''': You saw the way she looked at me. ''([[RageAgainstTheReflection smashes mirror]])'' We're freaks!

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--> ---> '''Magma''': You saw the way she looked at me. ''([[RageAgainstTheReflection smashes mirror]])'' We're freaks!



-->'''Bruce:''' Rest well, beloved.

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-->'''Bruce:''' --->'''Bruce:''' Rest well, beloved.



-->'''Bruce''': I'm sorry. I know how hard it is to go against a friend.
-->'''Terry''': I outgrew him, that's all.

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-->'''Bruce''': I'm sorry. I know how hard it is to go against a friend.
-->'''Terry''':
friend.\\
'''Terry''':
I outgrew him, that's all.



-->'''Fingers''': You want to put me in a cage again?
-->'''Batman''': Well, yeah.
-->'''Fingers''': You're all alike--you, the doctors, Van Dyle.
-->'''Batman''': Who's Van Dyle?
-->'''Fingers''': You have a mother?
-->'''Batman''': Yeah.
-->'''Fingers''': I don't because of Van Dyle.
** Fingers confronting Van Dyle about his mother's death, and Van Dyle's response about how ButForMeItWasTuesday, but unusually for that trope, its not said with spite, just resignation. Van Dyle is a bit of a scumbag, but he's just a hunter, not a sociopathic supervillain. He just never thought of his prey as living beings with their own feelings.
--> '''Fingers''': She was my mother!!
--> '''Van Dyle''': She was just another gorilla to me...

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-->'''Fingers''': You want to put me in a cage again?
-->'''Batman''':
again?\\
'''Batman''':
Well, yeah.
-->'''Fingers''':
yeah.\\
'''Fingers''':
You're all alike--you, the doctors, Van Dyle.
-->'''Batman''':
Dyle.\\
'''Batman''':
Who's Van Dyle?
-->'''Fingers''':
Dyle?\\
'''Fingers''':
You have a mother?
-->'''Batman''': Yeah.
-->'''Fingers''':
mother?\\
'''Batman''': Yeah.\\
'''Fingers''':
I don't because of Van Dyle.
** Fingers confronting Van Dyle about his mother's death, and Van Dyle's response about how ButForMeItWasTuesday, but unusually for that trope, its it's not said with spite, just resignation. Van Dyle is a bit of a scumbag, but he's just a hunter, not a sociopathic supervillain. He just never thought of his prey as living beings with their own feelings.
--> '''Fingers''': --->'''Fingers''': She was my mother!!
-->
mother!!\\
'''Van Dyle''': She was just another gorilla to me...



* In part two of "The Call" [[spoiler: Starro]] who'd been portrayed since his original creation as a [[FlatCharacter flat]] universal conqueror. In this series is simply the disgruntled victim of Superman's old foe "The Preserver." As Superman himself states, he never ''asked'' for what happened to him. He just let his resentment cloud his judgment.

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* In part two of "The Call" Call", [[spoiler: Starro]] Starro]], who'd been portrayed since his original creation as a [[FlatCharacter flat]] universal conqueror. In this series conqueror, is simply the disgruntled victim of Superman's old foe "The Preserver." As Superman himself states, he never ''asked'' for what happened to him. He just let his resentment cloud his judgment.



** Amanda Waller intended to create a new Batman to replace Bruce when he became too old to keep up the fight, [[spoiler: which is how Terry was born.]] She also intended to have his parents killed, and hired Bruce's old fling Andrea, aka The Phantasm to do the deed, but ultimately, she couldn't go through with it, and confronted Waller about how monstrous the whole project was and how it flew in the face of everything that Batman stood for. Waller agreed. If you know anything about Amanda Waller, it takes a LOT for her to admit being wrong about something. [[spoiler: Not that it mattered, since Terry lost his father anyway...]]

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** Amanda Waller intended to create a new Batman to replace Bruce when he became too old to keep up the fight, [[spoiler: which is how Terry was born.]] She also intended to have his parents killed, and hired Bruce's old fling Andrea, aka [[WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm The Phantasm Phantasm]] to do the deed, but ultimately, she couldn't go through with it, and confronted Waller about how monstrous the whole project was and how it flew in the face of everything that Batman stood for. Waller agreed. If you know anything about Amanda Waller, it takes a LOT for her to admit being wrong about something. [[spoiler: Not that it mattered, since Terry lost his father anyway...]]



-->'''Barbara:''' I'm seven weeks pregnant.
-->'''Bruce:''' I'll have to congratulate Dick.
-->[{{Beat}}]
-->'''Barbara:''' [[spoiler:[[WhamLine He's only been back for three.]]]]

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-->'''Barbara:''' I'm seven weeks pregnant.
-->'''Bruce:'''
pregnant.\\
'''Bruce:'''
I'll have to congratulate Dick.
-->[{{Beat}}]
-->'''Barbara:'''
Dick.\\
[{{Beat}}]\\
'''Barbara:'''
[[spoiler:[[WhamLine He's only been back for three.]]]]



-->'''Bruce:''' Dick. We need to talk. [[spoiler:Barbara and I were in a relationship.]]
-->'''Dick:''' [With a visible DeathGlare] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis How. Long?]]
-->'''Bruce:''' That's not important.
-->'''Dick:''' [[spoiler:[[WhatTheHellHero You've known how I've felt about her.]] Since College. Of course it's important.]]
-->'''Bruce:''' When you left for Blüdhaven...things changed. [[spoiler:Barbara made her own choices.]] As hard as this is...I thought you needed to know before you do anything rash. [[spoiler:Like Propose.]]
-->'''Dick:''' [[CallingTheOldManOut That's not what this is. This is you, not being able to have something, and trying to sabotage it for someone else.]] [[spoiler:[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech And you know what? I don't care, Bruce. Barbara and I are happy. So, if you respect me...if you respect her...you'll stay out of both our lives.]]]]
-->'''Bruce:''' [[spoiler:[[WhamLine She's pregnant.]]]]
-->[{{Beat}}]
-->'''Dick:''' '''''[[CurseCutShort YOU SON OF A-]]''''' [[[ArmorPiercingSlap He knocks Bruce to the floor with one punch,]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown continuing to brutally beat him]] as Barbara collapses, [[spoiler:hunched over and visibly beginning to miscarry.]]]

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-->'''Bruce:''' --->'''Bruce:''' Dick. We need to talk. [[spoiler:Barbara and I were in a relationship.]]
-->'''Dick:'''
]]\\
'''Dick:'''
[With a visible DeathGlare] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis How. Long?]]
-->'''Bruce:'''
Long?]]\\
'''Bruce:'''
That's not important.
-->'''Dick:'''
important.\\
'''Dick:'''
[[spoiler:[[WhatTheHellHero You've known how I've felt about her.]] Since College. college.]] Of course it's important.]]
-->'''Bruce:'''
\\
'''Bruce:'''
When you left for Blüdhaven...things changed. [[spoiler:Barbara made her own choices.]] As hard as this is...I thought you needed to know before you do anything rash. [[spoiler:Like Propose.]]
-->'''Dick:'''
propose.]]\\
'''Dick:'''
[[CallingTheOldManOut That's not what this is. This is you, not being able to have something, and trying to sabotage it for someone else.]] [[spoiler:[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech And you know what? I don't care, Bruce. Barbara and I are happy. So, if you respect me...if you respect her...you'll stay out of both our lives.]]]]
-->'''Bruce:'''
]]]]\\
'''Bruce:'''
[[spoiler:[[WhamLine She's pregnant.]]]]
-->[{{Beat}}]
-->'''Dick:'''
]]]]\\
[{{Beat}}]\\
'''Dick:'''
'''''[[CurseCutShort YOU SON OF A-]]''''' [[[ArmorPiercingSlap He knocks Bruce to the floor with one punch,]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown continuing to brutally beat him]] as Barbara collapses, [[spoiler:hunched over and visibly beginning to miscarry.]]]
5th Feb '18 12:02:22 PM GrecoRomanGuy
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** He doesn't get any sympathy from Terry, either.
--> '''Terry:''' (In response to the above) [[SarcasmMode ''Right.'']]
3rd Feb '18 9:05:42 PM Rissis
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** In the first few minutes, the Terrific Trio saves a family stuck in a hostage situation. Magma, the Thing Expy, crushes a bomb with his hand, saving the family. Afterwards, the wife and little girl are led out. When the girl (who had the bomb strapped closest to her) sees Magma, she screams "Get him away from me!". Magma's discussion afterwards is just heartbreaking.
--> '''Magma''': Did you see the way she looked at me?

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** In the first few minutes, the Terrific Trio saves a family stuck in a hostage situation. Magma, the Thing Expy, crushes a bomb with his hand, saving the family. Afterwards, the wife and little girl are led out. When the girl (who had the bomb strapped closest to her) sees Magma, she screams "Get "Don't let him away from hurt me!". Magma's discussion afterwards is just heartbreaking.
--> '''Magma''': Did you see You saw the way she looked at me?me. ''([[RageAgainstTheReflection smashes mirror]])'' We're freaks!
12th Jan '18 9:16:05 AM jeffreyloonychen
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** By the main time setting of the show, it also becomes clear that Bruce eventually lost faith in the effectiveness of vigilantism, examples include when Terry goes to Bruce for help with evidence of Derek Powers' corruption, he initially demanded Terry to go to Commissioner Barbara Gordon and when trying to force Terry to return his batsuit, he said he'll call the police and let them handle the issue despite Terry's pleas. Given the [[PoliceAreUseless past effort of the GCPD with Batman's help]], Bruce however, had at this point gave in to leaving the matters to the authorities rather then letting a superhero to take care of things like back in the past. It had only took Terry's convincing the his reminder of the loss of their families that created Batman for Bruce to finally regain his faith.
** Speaking of Barbara Gordon, despite her past as Batgirl, when she makes her official debut, Barbara also seemed to lost faith in vigilantism much like Bruce initially, refusing to accept Terry as the new Batman and even threatening to arrest him for unlawful vigilantism. Fortunately, after the events of "Eyewitness," Barbara buries the hatchet with Terry and begins to renew her faith in superheroes much like Bruce in the series opening episodes.
21st Sep '17 3:58:37 PM Stealth
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** It seems almost out of place for a man as CrazyPrepared as Bruce Wayne to have overextended himself like that... but consider who it was that usually ''kept'' him from overextending himself. Alfred is obvious by his absence, and the major part he played in Bruce's life is all too clear.
28th Jun '17 5:57:41 PM BlindJustice-2515
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* The kids who fell victim to Spellbinder's VR chambers in "Hooked Up." Especially the sweet innocent girl Jessie. Unlike Donny, whose fantasy was rather predictable for a kid his age. Jessie's "perfect" life seems almost ordinary by comparison. The one thing that would make her most happy? Working at a fast food restaurant, where her manager (a rather geeky-looking but adorable guy named Wendell) asked her to marry him.

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* The kids who fell victim to Spellbinder's VR chambers in "Hooked Up." Especially the sweet innocent girl Jessie. Unlike Donny, whose fantasy was rather predictable for a kid his age. Jessie's "perfect" life seems almost ordinary by comparison. The one thing that would make her most happy? Working at Going on a fast food restaurant, where her manager (a rather romantic date with Wendell, the geeky-looking but adorable guy named Wendell) asked her manager of the fast food restaurant where she works, ending with him proposing to marry him.her.
1st Apr '17 2:56:58 PM dianakingston
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** Made worse by the earlier scene with the musical: Bruce's grumpy reaction seems to be played for laughs until you realize the first two scenes feature Robin, Two-Face, Catwoman, Jim Gordon - people Bruce cared for who are either dead or long gone from his life.
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