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21st Jan '16 8:18:07 AM SapphireBlue
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Found the content of the letter
** The letter that shows up in your mailbox after [[spoiler:Baelheit dies.]] At that point, most players will probably just run off to [[spoiler:go after Verus]] and finish the game, so a lot of people probably didn't see it.
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** The letter that shows up in your mailbox after [[spoiler:Baelheit dies.]] At that point, most players will probably just run off to [[spoiler:go after Verus]] and finish the game, so it's easy to miss. -> [[spoiler:This is a lot of people probably didn't see it.new start for us all. I promise youíll never have to endure another lonely moment. Together, you and I and Daimon -a friend you must meet- will be happy. Your mother would have wanted it that way. I can even make you a better body with todayís machina technology. I am sorry for the pain Iíve caused you. I await you aboard Tarazed.]]
23rd Jan '15 4:39:04 PM NautilusPQ
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** It's all the details they put in, just to make it all the more tragic. [[spoiler:Milly being prepared to sacrifice herself, Guillo saying he actually liked her quite a bit, and Sagi's reaction to the whole thing.]] And the ''music'', oh, that music.
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** It's all the details they put in, just to make it all the more tragic. [[spoiler:Milly being prepared to sacrifice herself, Guillo saying he it actually liked her quite a bit, and Sagi's reaction to the whole thing.]] And the ''music'', oh, that music.
24th Jul '14 6:06:39 PM SayaAensland
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** Even before any of the above happens, there's the "heart-to-heart" that's the turning point of the game. [[spoiler:Just as you finally figure out that you, the "Guardian Spirit" you, aren't actually a spirit at all, but Marno - a piece of Malpercio, ''Le Ali Del Principio'' starts up and Sagi starts [[RageAgainstTheHeavens raging against you]] - not for being Malpercio, but for never telling him anything about your true nature and burdening him with [[TheChosenOne the trials of being a spiriter]] even though he technically ''wasn't''. Hearing him talk about how he half-resented your presence all his life with Mio Sakuraba's voice singing beautifully in the background is just...]] Given the ''Baten Kaitos'' trend of [[NoFourthWall breaking the fourth wall]] by including the player in the game as a "guardian spirit," you can feel like Sagi [[spoiler:''[[WhatTheHellPlayer was actually angry at the player]]]]. This very quickly turns into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when [[spoiler:you decide to become a part of Sagi, rather than absorb him as Malpercio. Inspirational heroic music starts up, you lend Sagi Malpercio's power, and he obtains his [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One Finisher]].]]
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** Even before any of the above happens, there's the "heart-to-heart" that's the turning point of the game. [[spoiler:Just as you finally figure out that you, the "Guardian Spirit" you, aren't actually a spirit at all, but Marno - a piece of Malpercio, ''Le Ali Del Principio'' starts up and Sagi starts [[RageAgainstTheHeavens raging against you]] - not for being Malpercio, but for never telling him anything about your true nature and burdening him with [[TheChosenOne the trials of being a spiriter]] even though he technically ''wasn't''. Hearing him talk about how he half-resented your presence all his life with Mio Sakuraba's voice singing beautifully in the background is just...]] Given the ''Baten Kaitos'' trend of [[NoFourthWall breaking the fourth wall]] by including the player in the game as a "guardian spirit," you can feel like Sagi [[spoiler:''[[WhatTheHellPlayer was actually angry at the player]]]].player]]'']]. This very quickly turns into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when [[spoiler:you decide to become a part of Sagi, rather than absorb him as Malpercio. Inspirational heroic music starts up, you lend Sagi Malpercio's power, and he obtains his [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One Finisher]].]]
24th Jul '14 6:05:55 PM SayaAensland
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* ''BatenKaitos Origins'' has one that was set up absolutely brilliantly. Guillo, one of the members of your party who up until this point has basically been a walking CrowningMomentOfAwesome - a total BadAss, a hilarious DeadpanSnarker, and great in actual combat, so naturally loved by the player - is revealed to be [[spoiler: responsible for the death of your Guardian Spirit, Marno, and all of his TrueCompanions. Since you have been having flashbacks showing Sagi what happened in his spirit's past, you get to see their whole journey end in absolute futility. Meanwhile the Guillo of the present (who remembered nothing from before being discovered by Sagi) is there watching the whole thing. Seeing Guillo ''beg Marno for his forgiveness'' after the final flashback is just so shocking, especially since it's so unusual for Guillo to do that.]] * Speaking of [[spoiler: Marno's TrueCompanions]], there's also [[spoiler: the death of Quis, and Seph's reaction to it]]. * After defeating an injured Lord Baelheit, Milliarde is nearly able to get through to him. Just as he is about to consider joining her and stopping the promachination madness, the [[spoiler: supposedly renowned Spiriter Verus]] comes up behind him and quite literally [[spoiler: stabs him in the back.]] ** On that note, Lord Baelheit [[spoiler: shooting Milly - his own ''daughter'' - in the face, just to prove a point]].
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* ''BatenKaitos Origins'' has one that was set up absolutely brilliantly. Guillo, one of the members of your party who up until this point has basically been a walking CrowningMomentOfAwesome - a total BadAss, a hilarious DeadpanSnarker, and great in actual combat, so naturally loved by the player - is revealed to be [[spoiler: responsible [[spoiler:responsible for the death of your Sagi's Guardian Spirit, Marno, and all of his TrueCompanions. Since you have been having flashbacks showing Sagi what happened in his spirit's past, you get to see their whole journey end in absolute futility. Meanwhile the Guillo of the present (who remembered nothing from before being discovered by Sagi) is there watching the whole thing. Seeing Guillo ''beg Marno for his forgiveness'' after the final flashback is just so shocking, especially since it's so unusual for Guillo to do that.]] * Speaking of [[spoiler: Marno's [[spoiler:Marno's TrueCompanions]], there's also [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the death of Quis, and Seph's reaction to it]]. * After defeating an injured Lord Baelheit, Milliarde is nearly able to get through to him. Just as he is about to consider joining her and stopping the promachination madness, the [[spoiler: supposedly [[spoiler:supposedly renowned Spiriter Verus]] comes up behind him and quite literally [[spoiler: stabs [[spoiler:stabs him in the back.]] ** On that note, Lord Baelheit [[spoiler: shooting [[spoiler:shooting Milly - his own ''daughter'' - in the face, just to prove a point]].

* Guillo's [[spoiler: Heroic Sacrifice immediately ''after'' beating the FinalBoss, ''just when you thought it was all over'']]. This gives Guillo's line to Milly following the aforementioned scene with Baelheit a whole new meaning. "[[spoiler: Make sure you cry when this is done with. And I mean buckets. You'd better not let me down.]]" She doesn't.
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* Guillo's [[spoiler: Heroic [[spoiler:Heroic Sacrifice immediately ''after'' beating the FinalBoss, ''just when you thought it was all over'']]. This gives Guillo's line to Milly following the aforementioned scene with Baelheit a whole new meaning. "[[spoiler: Make sure you cry when this is done with. And I mean buckets. You'd better not let me down.]]" She doesn't.
24th Jul '14 5:28:12 AM lalalei2001
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removing rampant cases of This Troper
* In the first game, when Kalas flashbacks to [[spoiler: the day his little brother Fee died, while Kalas first cries, then with sorrowful fury vows to avenge Fee.]] Gets me every time I play the game again.
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* In the first game, when Kalas flashbacks to [[spoiler: the day his little brother Fee died, while Kalas first cries, then with sorrowful fury vows to avenge Fee.]] Gets me every time I play the game again.

* The Phantom Goldoba. Throughout the dungeon, Lyude sees visions of his former comrades and his siblings which constantly berate him for the choices he's made, and then it culminates with him seeing [[spoiler: his deceased foster mother, who tries to goad him into committing suicide]]. Even as a player that didn't really care for Lyude, seeing him broken like that was pretty tough. * Happy tearjerker, I completely lost it when Xelha gave back [[spoiler: you, the Guardian Spirit, to Kalas after he abandons you. For some reason, Kalas's quiet resolve really got to this troper.]] * In the ending, where [[spoiler: Xelha sacrifices herself to bring the ocean back into the world. She gets better, but that scene really brought the waterworks for this troper the first time she's watched it.]] ** Same here. [[spoiler: I personally found Xelha annoying throughout the game, but ''damn it'', Kalas mourning over her in the rain is just heartrending. Doesn't help that the music played is the most tragic song of the game. Deep Sea of Tears, indeed]]. * For some reason the conversation that [[spoiler: Kalas and Giacomo share after Kalas delivers the fatal blow is very bittersweet. When Kalas finally lets go of his anger towards Giacomo and tells him he doesn't hate him anymore, and just feels pity. Then Giacomo tells Amye and Folon to follow Kalas's orders like they're his own. It's all very moving.]] May you find peace and contentment Giacomo.
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* The Phantom Goldoba. Throughout the dungeon, Lyude sees visions of his former comrades and his siblings which constantly berate him for the choices he's made, and then it culminates with him seeing [[spoiler: his deceased foster mother, who tries to goad him into committing suicide]]. Even as a player that didn't really care for Lyude, seeing him broken like that was pretty tough. suicide]]. * Happy tearjerker, I completely lost it when Xelha gave gives back [[spoiler: you, the Guardian Spirit, to Kalas after he abandons you. For some reason, Kalas's quiet resolve really got to this troper.you.]] * In the ending, where [[spoiler: Xelha sacrifices herself to bring the ocean back into the world. She gets better, but that scene really brought the waterworks for this troper the first time she's watched it.still...]] ** Same here. [[spoiler: I personally found Xelha annoying throughout the game, but ''damn it'', Kalas [[spoiler:Kalas mourning over her in the rain is just heartrending. heartrending.]] Doesn't help that the music played is the most tragic song of the game. Deep Sea of Tears, indeed]]. indeed. * For some reason the The conversation that [[spoiler: Kalas and Giacomo share after Kalas delivers the fatal blow is very bittersweet. When Kalas finally lets go of his anger towards Giacomo and tells him he doesn't hate him anymore, and just feels pity. Then Giacomo tells Amye and Folon to follow Kalas's orders like they're his own. It's all very moving.]] May you find peace and contentment Giacomo. ]]

** And speaking of [[spoiler: Marno's TrueCompanions]], there's also [[spoiler: the death of Quis, and Seph's reaction to it]]. I will never be able to forget that scream of utter agony... ** After defeating an injured Lord Baelheit, Milliarde is nearly able to get through to him. Just as he is about to consider joining her and stopping the promachination madness, the [[spoiler: supposedly renowned Spiriter Verus]] comes up behind him and quite literally [[spoiler: stabs him in the back.]] This troper will never forget the anguished look on Milliarde's face as she [[spoiler: cried over her dying father.]] *** On that note, Lord Baelheit [[spoiler: shooting Milly - his own ''daughter'' - in the face, just to prove a point]]. ''Damn it.'' *** Don't forget the letter that shows up in your mailbox after [[spoiler:Baelheit dies.]] At that point, most players will probably just run off to [[spoiler:go after Verus]] and finish the game, so a lot of people probably didn't see it. Still, it's pretty heartbreaking. ** That, and Guillo's [[spoiler: Heroic Sacrifice immediately ''after'' beating the FinalBoss, ''just when you thought it was all over'']]. This gives Guillo's line to Milly following the aforementioned scene with Baelheit a whole new meaning. "[[spoiler: Make sure you cry when this is done with. And I mean buckets. You'd better not let me down.]]" She doesn't. *** Dear god, that scene. It's all the details they put in, just to make it all the more tragic. [[spoiler:Milly being prepared to sacrifice herself, Guillo saying he actually liked her quite a bit, and Sagi's reaction to the whole thing.]] And the ''music'', oh, that music. ManlyTears were shed. ** Even before any of the above happens, there's the "heart-to-heart" that's the turning point of the game. [[spoiler:Just as you finally figure out that you, the "Guardian Spirit" you, aren't actually a spirit at all, but Marno - a piece of Malpercio, ''Le Ali Del Principio'' starts up and Sagi starts [[RageAgainstTheHeavens raging against you]] - not for being Malpercio, but for never telling him anything about your true nature and burdening him with [[TheChosenOne the trials of being a spiriter]] even though he technically ''wasn't''. Hearing him talk about how he half-resented your presence all his life with Mio Sakuraba's voice singing beautifully in the background is just...]] Given the ''BatenKaitos'' trend of [[NoFourthWall breaking the fourth wall]] by including the player in the game as a "guardian spirit," I felt very much like Sagi [[spoiler:''[[WhatTheHellPlayer was actually angry at me]]]]. Jesus Christ.'' This very quickly turns into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when [[spoiler:you decide to become a part of Sagi, rather than absorb him as Malpercio. Inspirational heroic music starts up, you lend Sagi Malpercio's power, and he obtains his [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One Finisher]].]] And you just ''know'' ownage is going to follow.
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** And speaking * Speaking of [[spoiler: Marno's TrueCompanions]], there's also [[spoiler: the death of Quis, and Seph's reaction to it]]. I will never be able to forget that scream of utter agony... ** it]]. * After defeating an injured Lord Baelheit, Milliarde is nearly able to get through to him. Just as he is about to consider joining her and stopping the promachination madness, the [[spoiler: supposedly renowned Spiriter Verus]] comes up behind him and quite literally [[spoiler: stabs him in the back.]] This troper will never forget the anguished look on Milliarde's face as she [[spoiler: cried over her dying father.]] *** ]] ** On that note, Lord Baelheit [[spoiler: shooting Milly - his own ''daughter'' - in the face, just to prove a point]]. ''Damn it.'' *** Don't forget the point]]. ** The letter that shows up in your mailbox after [[spoiler:Baelheit dies.]] At that point, most players will probably just run off to [[spoiler:go after Verus]] and finish the game, so a lot of people probably didn't see it. Still, it's pretty heartbreaking. ** That, and it. * Guillo's [[spoiler: Heroic Sacrifice immediately ''after'' beating the FinalBoss, ''just when you thought it was all over'']]. This gives Guillo's line to Milly following the aforementioned scene with Baelheit a whole new meaning. "[[spoiler: Make sure you cry when this is done with. And I mean buckets. You'd better not let me down.]]" She doesn't. *** Dear god, that scene. ** It's all the details they put in, just to make it all the more tragic. [[spoiler:Milly being prepared to sacrifice herself, Guillo saying he actually liked her quite a bit, and Sagi's reaction to the whole thing.]] And the ''music'', oh, that music. ManlyTears were shed. music. ** Even before any of the above happens, there's the "heart-to-heart" that's the turning point of the game. [[spoiler:Just as you finally figure out that you, the "Guardian Spirit" you, aren't actually a spirit at all, but Marno - a piece of Malpercio, ''Le Ali Del Principio'' starts up and Sagi starts [[RageAgainstTheHeavens raging against you]] - not for being Malpercio, but for never telling him anything about your true nature and burdening him with [[TheChosenOne the trials of being a spiriter]] even though he technically ''wasn't''. Hearing him talk about how he half-resented your presence all his life with Mio Sakuraba's voice singing beautifully in the background is just...]] Given the ''BatenKaitos'' ''Baten Kaitos'' trend of [[NoFourthWall breaking the fourth wall]] by including the player in the game as a "guardian spirit," I felt very much you can feel like Sagi [[spoiler:''[[WhatTheHellPlayer was actually angry at me]]]]. Jesus Christ.'' the player]]]]. This very quickly turns into a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when [[spoiler:you decide to become a part of Sagi, rather than absorb him as Malpercio. Inspirational heroic music starts up, you lend Sagi Malpercio's power, and he obtains his [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One Finisher]].]] And you just ''know'' ownage is going to follow. ]]
24th Jul '14 5:20:53 AM SayaAensland
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* As everyone is preparing to leave Mira for the Alfard Empire. Lyude stands alone in the Duke's thrown room tearfully wondering if he'll be able to confront his own people of their crimes, before he breaks down completely.
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* As everyone is preparing to leave Mira for the Alfard Empire. Lyude stands alone in the Duke's thrown throne room tearfully wondering if he'll be able to confront his own people of their crimes, before he breaks down completely.
11th Oct '13 8:35:30 PM firejewel
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* The death of Lyude's [[spoiler: real mother, Almarde]]. Even [[JerkAss Kalas]] was heartbroken.
11th Oct '13 8:08:38 PM firejewel
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''BatenKaitos Origins''
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''BatenKaitos Origins'' ''Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean'' * In the first game, when Kalas flashbacks to [[spoiler: the day his little brother Fee died, while Kalas first cries, then with sorrowful fury vows to avenge Fee.]] Gets me every time I play the game again. * As everyone is preparing to leave Mira for the Alfard Empire. Lyude stands alone in the Duke's thrown room tearfully wondering if he'll be able to confront his own people of their crimes, before he breaks down completely. * The Phantom Goldoba. Throughout the dungeon, Lyude sees visions of his former comrades and his siblings which constantly berate him for the choices he's made, and then it culminates with him seeing [[spoiler: his deceased foster mother, who tries to goad him into committing suicide]]. Even as a player that didn't really care for Lyude, seeing him broken like that was pretty tough. * Happy tearjerker, I completely lost it when Xelha gave back [[spoiler: you, the Guardian Spirit, to Kalas after he abandons you. For some reason, Kalas's quiet resolve really got to this troper.]] * In the ending, where [[spoiler: Xelha sacrifices herself to bring the ocean back into the world. She gets better, but that scene really brought the waterworks for this troper the first time she's watched it.]] ** Same here. [[spoiler: I personally found Xelha annoying throughout the game, but ''damn it'', Kalas mourning over her in the rain is just heartrending. Doesn't help that the music played is the most tragic song of the game. Deep Sea of Tears, indeed]]. * For some reason the conversation that [[spoiler: Kalas and Giacomo share after Kalas delivers the fatal blow is very bittersweet. When Kalas finally lets go of his anger towards Giacomo and tells him he doesn't hate him anymore, and just feels pity. Then Giacomo tells Amye and Folon to follow Kalas's orders like they're his own. It's all very moving.]] May you find peace and contentment Giacomo. ** [[spoiler: The fact that Xelha personally [[DisappearsIntoLight sends him off]] after his death]] just adds to that. ''Origins''

''Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean'' * In the first game, when Kalas flashbacks to [[spoiler: the day his little brother Fee died, while Kalas first cries, then with sorrowful fury vows to avenge Fee.]] Gets me every time I play the game again. * From the first game, the Phantom Goldoba. Throughout the dungeon, Lyude sees visions of his former comrades and his siblings which constantly berate him for the choices he's made, and then it culminates with him seeing [[spoiler:his deceased foster mother, who tries to goad him into committing suicide]]. Even as a player that didn't really care for Lyude, seeing him broken like that was pretty tough. * I completely lost it when Xelha gives back [[spoiler:you, the Guardian Spirit, to Kalas after he abandons you. For some reason, Kalas's quiet resolve really got to this troper.]] * In the ending, where [[spoiler:Xelha sacrifices herself to bring the ocean back into the world. She gets better, but that scene really brought the waterworks for this troper the first time she's watched it.]] ** Same here. [[spoiler:I personally found Xelha annoying throughout the game, but ''damn it'', Kalas mourning over her in the rain is just heartrending. Doesn't help that the music played is the most tragic song of the game. Deep Sea of Tears, indeed]]. * For some reason the conversation that [[spoiler:Kalas and Giacomo share after Kalas delivers the fatal blow is very bittersweet. When Kalas finally lets go of his anger towards Giacomo and tells him he doesn't hate him anymore, and just feels pity. Then Giacomo tells Amye and Folon to follow Kalas's orders like they're his own. It's all very moving.]] May you find peace and contentment Giacomo. ** [[spoiler:The fact that Xelha personally [[DisappearsIntoLight sends him off]] after his death]] just adds to that.
10th Oct '13 3:08:43 PM firejewel
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** Also from the first game, the Phantom Goldoba. Throughout the dungeon, Lyude sees visions of his former comrades and his siblings which constantly berate him for the choices he's made, and then it culminates with him seeing [[spoiler:his deceased foster mother, who tries to goad him into committing suicide]]. Even as a player that didn't really care for Lyude, seeing him broken like that was pretty tough.
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** Also from * From the first game, the Phantom Goldoba. Throughout the dungeon, Lyude sees visions of his former comrades and his siblings which constantly berate him for the choices he's made, and then it culminates with him seeing [[spoiler:his deceased foster mother, who tries to goad him into committing suicide]]. Even as a player that didn't really care for Lyude, seeing him broken like that was pretty tough.
3rd May '13 7:12:04 PM ondarisa
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** I completely lost it when Xelha gives back [[spoiler:you, the Guardian Spirit, to Kalas after he abandons you. For some reason, Kalas's quiet resolve really got to this troper.]] ** Really? I couldn't help it - I was really annoyed with that [[spoiler: You're expected to give forgive Kalas for not only lying to you, but ''he erases your memories when you disagree with his plans''. It just felt like he wasn't sorry enough, for me.]] *** ''Gheez'' you people are ''way to harsh!'' I'd like to point out, for the record. Dialogue clearly indicates that the whole thing wasn't all Kalas' fualt. If you want to be angry at someone, then be angry at [[spoiler:Melodia for messing with Kalas' head so he ''would'' ditch his guardian spirit]]. ''Sheesh!''
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** * I completely lost it when Xelha gives back [[spoiler:you, the Guardian Spirit, to Kalas after he abandons you. For some reason, Kalas's quiet resolve really got to this troper.]] ** Really? I couldn't help it - I was really annoyed with that [[spoiler: You're expected to give forgive Kalas for not only lying to you, but ''he erases your memories when you disagree with his plans''. It just felt like he wasn't sorry enough, for me.]] *** ''Gheez'' you people are ''way to harsh!'' I'd like to point out, for the record. Dialogue clearly indicates that the whole thing wasn't all Kalas' fualt. If you want to be angry at someone, then be angry at [[spoiler:Melodia for messing with Kalas' head so he ''would'' ditch his guardian spirit]]. ''Sheesh!'']]
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