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8th Mar '17 8:01:59 AM LondonKdS
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* There's a theory that the line in Music/VelvetUnderground's "Sweet Jane" about "evil mothers" who "tell you that everything is just dirt" is an insult aimed at Music/FrankZappa and the Mothers of Invention. Although it would be a bit hypocritical for Lou Reed, of all people, to attack any other musician for having negative lyrics.
26th Feb '17 4:22:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* When Staind collaborated with [[Music/LimpBizkit Fred Durst]] for a cover of PublicEnemy's "Bring The Noise", they altered the original song's reference to Louis Farrakhan, the political activist and leader of the religious movement the Nation Of Islam, changing it from an endorsement to a Take That: "Farrakhan's a prophet, and I think you ought to listen to / what he can say to you" became "Farrakhan's a racist, and I think you ought to listen to / what we can say to you".

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* When Staind collaborated with [[Music/LimpBizkit Fred Durst]] for a cover of PublicEnemy's Music/PublicEnemy's "Bring The Noise", they altered the original song's reference to Louis Farrakhan, the political activist and leader of the religious movement the Nation Of Islam, changing it from an endorsement to a Take That: "Farrakhan's a prophet, and I think you ought to listen to / what he can say to you" became "Farrakhan's a racist, and I think you ought to listen to / what we can say to you".
21st Feb '17 10:11:35 PM gewunomox
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* Collective Soul's "Smashing Young Man" is one towards an unnamed, trash-talking arrogant celebrity heavily rumored to be Billy Corgan: Aside from how the title sounds like a play on the name of Music/SmashingPumpkins, there's the fact that Corgan has long been critical of Collective Soul, alleging that their hit "Shine" was a Smashing Pumpkins ripoff. Collective Soul's criticism is surprisingly constructive so far as a Take That song goes: the second verse makes the point that he could be using his platform for more constructive things.

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* Collective Soul's "Smashing Young Man" is one towards an unnamed, trash-talking arrogant celebrity heavily rumored to be Billy Corgan: Aside from how the title sounds like a play on the name of Music/SmashingPumpkins, Music/TheSmashingPumpkins, there's the fact that Corgan has long been critical of Collective Soul, alleging that their hit "Shine" was a Smashing Pumpkins ripoff. Collective Soul's criticism is surprisingly constructive so far as a Take That song goes: the second verse makes the point that he could be using his platform for more constructive things.
18th Feb '17 10:41:42 AM Schol-R-LEA
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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed (mostly) at Brittany Spears, with lines such as

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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed (mostly) at Brittany Spears, Spears (or rather, the sort of corporate pop music she was a prime example of at the time), with lines such as
18th Feb '17 10:40:16 AM Schol-R-LEA
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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed at Brittany Spears, with lines such as

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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed (mostly) at Brittany Spears, with lines such as
18th Feb '17 10:38:41 AM Schol-R-LEA
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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed at Brittany Spears, wit lines such as

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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed at Brittany Spears, wit with lines such asas
18th Feb '17 10:37:56 AM Schol-R-LEA
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18th Feb '17 10:37:17 AM Schol-R-LEA
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-->And play and play and play and
I've got a whole bunch of
Press releases, smiles, and evening gowns
To hide the fact that my
Songs are Tori Amos hand-me-downs.Play

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-->And play and play and play and
I've got a whole bunch of
Press releases, smiles, and evening gowns
To hide the fact that my
Songs are Tori Amos hand-me-downs.Play
play
18th Feb '17 10:36:13 AM Schol-R-LEA
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* {{Filk}} singer Music/TomSmith's song "And They Say I've Got Talent" is a ''very'' pointed TakeThat aimed at Brittany Spears, wit lines such as
-->And they say I've got talent,
-->Maybe it'll show someday,
-->I've got a big-ass contract,
-->Songs the radio will play
-->And play and play and play and
I've got a whole bunch of
Press releases, smiles, and evening gowns
To hide the fact that my
Songs are Tori Amos hand-me-downs.Play

-->I've got a whole bunch of
-->Press releases, smiles, and evening gowns
-->To hide the fact that my
-->Songs are Tori Amos hand-me-downs.
-->To make me seem as if I
-->Understand that music's from the soul,
-->To make me feel as if I'm
-->Not a product, carefully controlled.

And perhaps most telling, at least about Smith's view of Spears:

-->Try not to think about the
-->Truer, deeper, better singer-
-->Songwriters you've never heard of
-->Working hard and starving while I
-->Tour the country, do the talk shows,
-->Sell the albums, get on M.T.V.,
-->I only hope that someday
-->Someone hears the songs I wrote for me....
18th Feb '17 10:06:23 AM Schol-R-LEA
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* Music/TheFugs had several, but the one aimed at their former recording studio is perhaps the best. The title of the EP ''Thrown Off Atlantic'' is a reference to the contract dispute with the publisher of their first album, Atlantic Records. Some later releases of ''The Fug's First Album'' include a track consisting of a recording of the initial contract signing party for the album, under the title "In the Middle of Their First Recording Session the Fugs Sign the Worst Contract Since Leadbelly's" (a reference to the way {{Blues}} legend Huddy 'Leadbelly' Ledbetter was forced to sign over all rights to his songs for a pittance).
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