History TakeThat / Fanfic

18th Aug '17 10:58:53 AM KizunaTallis
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** An early chapter has Twilight Sparkle go off on a long-winded speech about how the typical TCB plot element of Equestria just appearing in the middle of the ocean is not only scientifically impossible, but would also result in many problems of its own. On top of that, there's numerous magical problems as well - according to Twilight, it would require such an impractically large amount of magic that she says it's impossible.
-->'''Twilight''': "[[LetMeGetThisStraight Is that what you're saying?]] That somepony popped Equestria out of our reality and crashed it onto his? How's that even meant to work? [[SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfMass Several trillion tons of continent]] [[ColonyDrop does not make a gentle impact on another world]], [[RealityEnsues not without mega-tsunamis and earthquakes that would level entire cities, followed by a dust cloud that would blanket the world in an artificial winter lasting decades!]] [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse And what about the world we leave behind, what about Equus?]] [[NoEndorHolocaust Would it just carry on spinning without a care, despite having a hole several-thousand-miles-across gouged out of the planet's crust?]] Even if you didn't breach the mantle, creating a supervolcano that would pull the planet inside-out, the change in mass and absence of the Princesses would throw the sun and moon out of their orbits, causing them to collide, or even worse, to impact with Equus itself! [[FridgeHorror Anypony – anything, left behind would die, horribly!]] Every griffon, every dragon, zebra, reindeer, whatever!"
** Discord, during [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment a gag version]] of the chapter ''The Writes of Passage'', breaks down the fourth wall and says, "If you want characters to suddenly start acting out of character like this, go read a Chatoyance fic!"
** Another pot shot is leveled at Chatoyance, particularly her story ''The PER: Michelson and Morely - The Speed of Right'', where a side character named Victor Kraber reveals that his children were ponified at their birthday party by TCB!Pinkie Pie working with PER agents, and [[DrivenToMadness he was]] ''[[PapaWolf not]]'' [[ItsPersonal at all happy]] [[AdultFear to find out]].

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** An early chapter has Twilight Prime!Twilight Sparkle go off on a long-winded speech about how the typical TCB plot element of Equestria just appearing in the middle of the ocean one of Earth's oceans is not only scientifically impossible, but would also result in many problems of its own. On top of that, there's numerous magical problems as well - according to Twilight, it would require such an impractically large amount of magic that she says it's impossible.
-->'''Twilight''': "[[LetMeGetThisStraight [[LetMeGetThisStraight Is that what you're saying?]] That somepony popped Equestria out of our reality and crashed it onto his? How's that even meant to work? [[SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfMass Several trillion tons of continent]] [[ColonyDrop does not make a gentle impact on another world]], [[RealityEnsues not without mega-tsunamis and earthquakes that would level entire cities, followed by a dust cloud that would blanket the world in an artificial winter lasting decades!]] [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse And what about the world we leave behind, what about Equus?]] [[NoEndorHolocaust Would it just carry on spinning without a care, despite having a hole several-thousand-miles-across gouged out of the planet's crust?]] Even if you didn't breach the mantle, creating a supervolcano that would pull the planet inside-out, the change in mass and absence of the Princesses would throw the sun and moon out of their orbits, causing them to collide, or even worse, to impact with Equus itself! [[FridgeHorror Anypony – anything, left behind would die, horribly!]] Every griffon, every dragon, zebra, reindeer, whatever!"
whatever!
** Discord, during [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment a the gag version]] of the chapter ''The "The Writes of Passage'', Passage", breaks down the fourth wall and says, "If you want characters to suddenly start acting out of character like this, go read a Chatoyance fic!"
** Another pot shot is leveled at Chatoyance, particularly specifically at her story ''The PER: Michelson and Morely - The Speed of Right'', where a side character named Victor Kraber reveals that his children were ponified at their birthday party by TCB!Pinkie Pie working with PER agents, and [[DrivenToMadness he was]] ''[[PapaWolf not]]'' [[ItsPersonal at all happy]] [[AdultFear to find out]].out]] about this. In fact, subsequent appearances and references to Kraber make mention of him killing swaths of PER agents, including one incident where he and his friend Kagan Burakgazi stabbed a PER "squire" named Nutmeg Morely to death [[CruelAndUnusualDeath with a ceramic rat]].



*** An unintentional example occurred in the chapter detailing the Human Liberation Front, where a former HLF member named Andrew Silas recounts having known a few trans people that ended up regretting going through with their sex change operations (while the newfoals ''never'' stopped telling other people how great ponification is no matter how long it's been since they were transformed). There is the fact that Chatoyance once infamously put up a "support" website for transpeople advising them to ''fool'' psych tests that would determine whether they were real transsexuals and thus in need of surgery. [[FridgeHorror And there probably are people out there that took her advice to heart]]. Co-author Doctor Fluffy retroactively turned it into a straight TakeThat later on, [[AscendedFanon because he thought it was hilarious]].
*** The PHL chapter has TCB!Lyra as a mouthpiece against Chatoyance's setting of Earth as a dystopia.
--->'''Lyra:''' (to Aegis) "I've seen most humans, and I've visited many places all over Earth. Let me tell you this: they're not living in some dystopia where everything is owned by a greedy minority and every religion is some corrupt scam church like so many newfoals claim! Sure, it isn't perfect, but it's not as though they're riddled with kill-happy criminals, murderers, terrorist fanatics, and whatever else you can think of! They seem happy!"

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*** An unintentional example occurred in the chapter detailing the Human Liberation Front, where a former HLF member named Andrew Silas recounts having known a few trans people that ended up regretting going through with their sex change operations (while the newfoals ''never'' stopped telling other people how great ponification is no matter how long it's been since they were transformed). There is the fact that Chatoyance once infamously put up a "support" website for transpeople advising them to ''fool'' psych ''cheat'' on psychiatric tests that would determine whether they were real transsexuals and thus in need of surgery. [[FridgeHorror And there probably are people out there that took her advice to heart]]. Co-author Doctor Fluffy retroactively turned it into a straight TakeThat later on, [[AscendedFanon because he thought it was hilarious]].
*** The PHL chapter has TCB!Lyra as a mouthpiece against Chatoyance's setting depiction of Earth as a dystopia.
--->'''Lyra:''' (to Aegis) "I've I've seen most humans, and I've visited many places all over Earth. Let me tell you this: they're not living in some dystopia where everything is owned by a greedy minority and every religion is some corrupt scam church like so many newfoals claim! Sure, it isn't perfect, but it's not as though they're riddled with kill-happy criminals, murderers, terrorist fanatics, and whatever else you can think of! They seem happy!"happy!



** On a meta-level, Canon!Celestia showing a distaste for eugenics is also a subtle TakeThat directed at Chatoyance, where one story states that [[GodModeSue her Celestia]] actually used eugenics to [[OurElvesAreBetter make the ponies better]] by breeding out any "undesirable" traits.

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** On a meta-level, Canon!Celestia In one chapter, Prime!Celestia showing a distaste for eugenics is also a subtle TakeThat directed at Chatoyance, where one story states that [[GodModeSue her Celestia]] actually used eugenics to [[OurElvesAreBetter make the ponies better]] by breeding out any "undesirable" traits.



** Prime!Discord makes a couple quick potshots at conservative pundit Dinesh D'Souza and the notorious evangelist/actor Kirk Cameron.
** While it was completely unintentional and merely a coincidence, the ''Last Train from Oblivion'' side story reveals that the ponification potion only recognizes the biological sex of the human converts (meaning a transwoman would get turned into a stallion and a transman into a mare). As co-author [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/207968/last-train-from-oblivion#comment/5701150 Kizuna Tallis pointed out]], it could be read as a potshot at Chatoyance, herself a transwoman who's sometimes expressed {{Otherkin}} tendencies. Making this funnier (or more disturbing) is that the transwoman that this is demonstrated on was named Jason when she was male... which is widely believed to be Chatoyance's birth name. [=TB3=] later [[https://www.fimfiction.net/group/206246/spectrum-crew/thread/181225/how-many-of-you-have-been-blocked-by-chatoyance went on the record]] to clarify that it was all coincidental, but Kizuna, Doctor Fluffy and Vox Adam all agreed it was hilarious nonetheless.

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** In "Training Days: Second Month", Prime!Discord makes a couple quick potshots at conservative pundit Dinesh D'Souza and the notorious evangelist/actor Kirk Cameron.
** While it was completely unintentional and merely a coincidence, on the author's part, the ''Last Train from Oblivion'' side story reveals that the ponification potion only recognizes the biological sex of the human converts (meaning a transwoman would get turned into a stallion and a transman into a mare). As co-author [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/207968/last-train-from-oblivion#comment/5701150 Kizuna Tallis pointed out]], it could be read as a potshot at Chatoyance, herself a transwoman who's sometimes expressed {{Otherkin}} tendencies. Making this funnier (or more disturbing) is that the transwoman that this is demonstrated on was named Jason when she was male... which is widely believed to be Chatoyance's birth name. Author [=TB3=] later [[https://www.fimfiction.net/group/206246/spectrum-crew/thread/181225/how-many-of-you-have-been-blocked-by-chatoyance went on the record]] to clarify clarified that it was all coincidental, but Kizuna, Doctor Fluffy and Vox Adam all agreed it was hilarious nonetheless.
17th Aug '17 4:58:57 AM KrspaceT
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** During the Whitney Oneshot, Whitney fights a Muk with one of her Miltank and harshly defeats it, stating that she'd never lose to a Muk. The Author confirms this was a potshot aimed at her portrayal in Fanfic/AshesOfThePast, though he does clarify he likes the fic overall. Just not that part.
** In an omake, a pair of Ash Ketchums arrive in the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' universe, which is explicitly stated to have the rule of "everything must revolve around Bella Swan." Since the two of them don't worship the ground she walks on and can't be punished for their "transgression" by the laws of the universe, their presence causes a reality-breaking paradox which results in the place falling apart. It could be also treated as a take that at BlackHoleSue characters in general.
** Another omake takes a pot shot at the increasingly multi-player focused Call of Duty series.
** The first Ketchumverse omake implies that ''every'' world where the 'Ash is in a Coma' theory is real has been taken over by an evil multiversal empire and ruled with an iron fist. One gets the impression the author doesn't like the WMG that much.

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** During the Whitney Oneshot, Whitney fights a Muk with one of her Miltank and harshly defeats it, stating that she'd never lose to a Muk. The Author confirms this was a potshot aimed at her portrayal in Fanfic/AshesOfThePast, Ashes of the Past, though he does clarify he likes the fic overall. Just not overall.
** The Author also commented during the Gary oneshot
that part.
he believes Pokemon Anime XY was better than Shudo's run.
** One omake has a potshot against the ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' series for its excessive reliance on multiplayer.
** In an omake, a pair of omake from the Ketchumverse, Bloodline Ash Ketchums and Ranger Ash arrive in the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' universe, which is explicitly stated to have the rule of "everything must revolve around Bella Swan." Since the two of them don't worship the ground she walks on and can't be punished for their "transgression" by the laws of the universe, their presence causes a reality-breaking paradox which results in the place falling apart. It could be also treated as a take that at BlackHoleSue characters in general.
** Another omake takes a pot shot at
No points for guessing what the increasingly multi-player focused Call of Duty author is trying to say about the series.
** The Argenta one-shot is a rather big one towards competitive battling (which in the more recent years features less and less variety, with most players using only a handful of Pokemon with the same moves), and Smogon in particular (for encouraging this mindset). Though it's softened somewhat in the end with the message that everybody should be free to choose and use their preferred Pokemon, even if it's from the strongest tiers.
** Belladonna was partly based on an incarnation of Franchise/HarryPotter from a fanfiction called "The Ilvermorny Champion". This version of the Boy Who Lived had a bad habit of doing some awful things to those who hurt his friends and family, so the author created a character with a similar mindset whose actions are portrayed as wrong.
** The Falkner oneshot has a very subtle one towards the use of [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokémon]] in competitive battling (and most likely Tobias as well): when Satsuki asks Falkner what does he plan to do once he catches Ho-Oh and Lugia, he assures her that he won't take them to the Pokémon League and "use them to crush the dreams of some hapless kid half [his] age".
** Many jokes of the first chapter of the Wild Boy For Sinnoh take potshots at Bidoof.
** The first Ketchumverse omake implies Omake suggests that ''every'' world all the Worlds where the 'Ash Pokemon Coma Theory is in a Coma' theory is real has thing have been taken over by an 'the Ashs of Darkness' as part of a evil multiversal empire and ruled with an iron fist. One gets the impression the author doesn't like the WMG Multiversal Empire.
** The first part of Ash's DreamSequence in Chapter 24 has a TakeThat towards Betrayal-fics
that much.
are common in the Pokemon fandom.
** The April Fools 2017 chapter takes its time to be a TakeThat against ExecutiveMeddling.
** Giselle Interlude contains one against those who insist that you don't capitalize Pokemon Species names.
16th Aug '17 9:09:44 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Netraptor's DoorStopper series of ''SonicTheHedgehog'' fanfiction [[http://www.netraptor.org/fanfiction/viewseries.php?seriesid=1 "The Netraptor Sonicverse"]], contains a few generally subtle ones, generally towards the [[FanDumb Sonic]] [[BrokenBase fandom]]. Perhaps one of the more notable examples would be Amy's subplot in "In Pursuit of Revenge", where she attempts to play OperationJealousy by attemting to go out with three different people, [[{{Shotacon}} Tails,]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse Shadow,]] and [[CrackPairing Metal Sonic.]] Tails goes on one awkward date, but really is more interested with machines than anything else. Shadow lets her stay with him for awhile, but is far more busy with his own subplot and quickly grows tired of her. Metal Sonic (who had long since performed a HeelFaceTurn), turns her down on the spot, albiet in the least rude way of the three, as he is far more interested in his subplot and taking care of [[MoralityPet his chao.]]

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* Netraptor's DoorStopper series of ''SonicTheHedgehog'' fanfiction [[http://www.netraptor.org/fanfiction/viewseries.php?seriesid=1 "The Netraptor Sonicverse"]], contains a few generally subtle ones, generally towards the [[FanDumb Sonic]] [[BrokenBase fandom]]. Perhaps one of the more notable examples would be Amy's subplot in "In Pursuit of Revenge", where she attempts to play OperationJealousy by attemting to go out with three different people, [[{{Shotacon}} Tails,]] Tails, [[EnsembleDarkhorse Shadow,]] and [[CrackPairing Metal Sonic.]] Tails goes on one awkward date, but really is more interested with machines than anything else. Shadow lets her stay with him for awhile, but is far more busy with his own subplot and quickly grows tired of her. Metal Sonic (who had long since performed a HeelFaceTurn), turns her down on the spot, albiet in the least rude way of the three, as he is far more interested in his subplot and taking care of [[MoralityPet his chao.]]
9th Aug '17 12:35:52 AM TheSinful
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* In ''Fanfic/ATeachersGlory'', combines this with an aversion of NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead, in which Asuma and Anko bash Kakashi, or better said, his potential teaching style (which is what he did in canon), who had just been accidentally killed by Team 7 during the bell test:
-->'''Anko''': Imagine Kakashi trying to deal with this bunch!
-->'''Asuma''': He'd have shown up late, given them minimal instruction, wandered off to read his porn, ignore the girl and the Uzumaki, and tried to pretend Sasuke was Obito as a young genin.
-->'''Anko''': And ruined the boy, alternating indulgence, attention, ignoring cries for help and applying misunderstood discipline. He'd been such a prodigy in his own that had no idea how normal kids develop. How many potentially good teams did he fail, five, six? He was a good jonin, and sometimes fun at a party. But he wasn't cut to teach anyone anything. Of his thousand stolen jutsus, how many would he have taught to his students, if he'd ever allowed any to pass?



* The entirety of the oneshot ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5249117/1/Incense Incense]]'' is how [[FauxActionGirl pathetic]] the kunoichi from the [[FanNickname Konoha 11]] are.



* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10574684/22/Naruto-The-Gamer-Filese Naruto: The Gamer Files]]'', when Sasuke reveals the genjutsu used to weed out the hopeless prior to the Chuunin Exams, Kin outright calls him a [[WhatAnIdiot complete dumbass]] for making more competition. After Sasuke gives his name and boasts about beating her in the exams, Kin insists his name is dumbass until he proves otherwise.



* ''[[http://ficwad.com/story/234226 The Promise]]'' gives a quick shot to ''[[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie Naruto The Last]]'' when Hanabi talks about how obsessed Hinata is with Naruto.
-->'''Hanabi:''' I’m telling you Naruto, if there was a genjutsu to make you fall in love with her, then she’d use it in a heartbeat. It’ll probably make you into the type of scumbag that would say he only liked Sakura because of Sasuke or something. Even I wouldn’t want you to claim that.
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10814551/1/Sorry-s-Not-Enough Sorry's Not Enough]]'' gives one to Naruto scolding Boruto for acting [[GenerationXerox just like he did as a child]] when his reaction to his son Haku trying to paint to Hokage Monument is to take the rest of the day off and spend it with his family. Being Hokage is important, but being a father and a husband is more important.



* The entirety of the oneshot ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5249117/1/Incense Incense]]'' is how [[FauxActionGirl pathetic]] the kunoichi from the [[FanNickname Konoha 11]] are.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10574684/22/Naruto-The-Gamer-Filese Naruto: The Gamer Files]]'', when Sasuke reveals the genjutsu used to weed out the hopeless prior to the Chuunin Exams, Kin outright calls him a [[WhatAnIdiot complete dumbass]] for making more competition. After Sasuke gives his name and boasts about beating her in the exams, Kin insists his name is dumbass until he proves otherwise.



* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10814551/1/Sorry-s-Not-Enough Sorry's Not Enough]]'' gives one to Naruto scolding Boruto for acting [[GenerationXerox just like he did as a child]] when his reaction to his son Haku trying to paint to Hokage Monument is to take the rest of the day off and spend it with his family. Being Hokage is important, but being a father and a husband is more important.
* In ''Fanfic/ATeachersGlory'', combines this with an aversion of NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead, in which Asuma and Anko bash Kakashi, or better said, his potential teaching style (which is what he did in canon), who had just been accidentally killed by Team 7 during the bell test:
-->'''Anko''': Imagine Kakashi trying to deal with this bunch!
-->'''Asuma''': He'd have shown up late, given them minimal instruction, wandered off to read his porn, ignore the girl and the Uzumaki, and tried to pretend Sasuke was Obito as a young genin.
-->'''Anko''': And ruined the boy, alternating indulgence, attention, ignoring cries for help and applying misunderstood discipline. He'd been such a prodigy in his own that had no idea how normal kids develop. How many potentially good teams did he fail, five, six? He was a good jonin, and sometimes fun at a party. But he wasn't cut to teach anyone anything. Of his thousand stolen jutsus, how many would he have taught to his students, if he'd ever allowed any to pass?

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10814551/1/Sorry-s-Not-Enough Sorry's Not Enough]]'' gives one to Naruto scolding Boruto for acting [[GenerationXerox just like he did as a child]] when his reaction to his son Haku trying to paint to Hokage Monument is to take the rest of the day off and spend it with his family. Being Hokage is important, but being a father and a husband is more important.
* In ''Fanfic/ATeachersGlory'', combines this with an aversion of NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead, in which Asuma and Anko bash Kakashi, or better said, his potential teaching style (which is what he did in canon), who had just been accidentally killed by Team 7 during the bell test:
-->'''Anko''': Imagine Kakashi trying to deal with this bunch!
-->'''Asuma''': He'd have shown up late, given them minimal instruction, wandered off to read his porn, ignore the girl and the Uzumaki, and tried to pretend Sasuke was Obito as a young genin.
-->'''Anko''': And ruined the boy, alternating indulgence, attention, ignoring cries for help and applying misunderstood discipline. He'd been such a prodigy in his own that had no idea how normal kids develop. How many potentially good teams did he fail, five, six? He was a good jonin, and sometimes fun at a party. But he wasn't cut to teach anyone anything. Of his thousand stolen jutsus, how many would he have taught to his students, if he'd ever allowed any to pass?
16th Jul '17 9:19:06 AM nombretomado
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* In ''FanFic/WingsToFly'', a number of characters discuss the concept of a War To End All Wars; Lady Une regards it as foolishness, while Lucrezia Noin says they last a generation at most and cites her family's history with the World Wars; victory at Vittorio in UsefulNotes/WW1 and later defeat at Beda Fomm in WW2.

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* In ''FanFic/WingsToFly'', a number of characters discuss the concept of a War To End All Wars; Lady Une regards it as foolishness, while Lucrezia Noin says they last a generation at most and cites her family's history with the World Wars; victory at Vittorio in UsefulNotes/WW1 and later defeat at Beda Fomm in WW2.[=WW2=].
1st Jul '17 7:23:22 PM ZimFan89
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* ''FanFic/AgesOfShadow'': The entire ''Anime/YuGiOh'' homage/parody StoryArc is full of these, lampshading said series' various plot holes, odd plot mechanics, and bizarre character designs. But one moment that stands out in particular is at the end, when Alonso asks Brenner about rumors that he's intending to start a [[Anime/YuGiOhGX school dedicated to teaching the card game]]. Brenner responds by stating that the whole concept is stupid, as how could you build a whole school year curriculum around a game?
13th Jun '17 10:24:05 PM nombretomado
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* In ''FanFic/WingsToFly'', a number of characters discuss the concept of a War To End All Wars; Lady Une regards it as foolishness, while Lucrezia Noin says they last a generation at most and cites her family's history with the World Wars; victory at Vittorio in WW1 and later defeat at Beda Fomm in WW2.

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* In ''FanFic/WingsToFly'', a number of characters discuss the concept of a War To End All Wars; Lady Une regards it as foolishness, while Lucrezia Noin says they last a generation at most and cites her family's history with the World Wars; victory at Vittorio in WW1 UsefulNotes/WW1 and later defeat at Beda Fomm in WW2.
28th May '17 1:49:27 PM nombretomado
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* ''Fanfic/LightAndDarkTheAdventuresOfDarkYagami'' has one directed at [[TVTropes this very site.]]

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* ''Fanfic/LightAndDarkTheAdventuresOfDarkYagami'' has one directed at [[TVTropes [[Wiki/TVTropes this very site.]]
27th May '17 5:36:06 PM nombretomado
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* In first chapter of "The High Road", Damon says Katherine is like [[JerseyShore Snooki]]...with fangs

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* In first chapter of "The High Road", Damon says Katherine is like [[JerseyShore [[Series/JerseyShore Snooki]]...with fangs
14th May '17 7:16:32 PM mouschilight
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