History TabletopGame / YuGiOh

3rd Mar '17 8:56:42 AM Mitis
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** The Ojamas, three exceedingly weak monsters with no attack points and no effects, got a number of support cards that let them drastically turn the table on the enemy.

to:

** The Ojamas, Ojamas were this from the start, three exceedingly weak monsters with no attack points and no effects, but with a support spell card that nukes your opponent's field if you've summoned all three of them. Then they got a number of support cards that let turned them drastically turn the table on the enemy. into a viable swarm/lockdown archetype.



** Grinder Golem and Inferno Tempest. Grinder Golem Summons a 3000 attack point monster on your opponents side of the field and gives you two tokens with 0 attack points. Now attack the Golem with one of your tokens, take 3000 damage, and activate Inferno Tempest. It removes every monster in both players' decks and graveyards from play. You may even be able to perform an OTK by activating D.D. Dynamite which does 300 damage for every card of your opponents that is removed from play.

to:

** Grinder Golem and Inferno Tempest. Grinder Golem Summons a 3000 attack point monster on your opponents with 3000 ATK to ''your opponent's'' side of the field and gives you ''you'' two tokens with 0 attack points. Now Now, attack the Golem with one of your tokens, take 3000 damage, and activate Inferno Tempest. It removes every monster in both players' decks and graveyards from play. You may even be able to perform an OTK by activating D.D. Dynamite which does 300 damage for every card of your opponents that is removed from play.



** Foolish Burial sends a monster straight from your deck to the graveyard, which would seem like a bad idea on its own, except if you combine that with anything that lets you revive a monster, you've just hand-picked a monster from your deck to be Summoned onto the field. There's a reason this card is limited to one per deck.

to:

** Foolish Burial sends a monster straight from your deck Deck to the graveyard, Graveyard, which would seem like a bad idea on its own, except if you combine that with anything that lets you revive a monster, you've just hand-picked a monster from your deck to be Summoned onto the field. There's a reason this card is limited to one per deck.



** Mokey Mokey is a Normal Monster with 300 ATK. Its major draw is in the form a Continuous Spell Card that increases its ATK tenfold if another Fairy-Type monster you control is destroyed. Belowski/Mokeo from the GX anime showed how formidable that could be when used right.



** The Vylons are an interesting example. In the story they teamed up with the Lavals, Gishki, Gusto, and Gem-Knights in order to beat back the Steelswarms. This ultimately leads to [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Vylon_Omega Vylon Omega]] defeating them. But as it turns out, those sets were only working together to beat the Steelswarms and prior to that were also fighting each other. The Vylons wish for a perfect existence for everyone, but they now see that's impossible. So they've decided to use [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Vylon_Disigma Vylon Disigma]] to KillEmAll.

to:

** The Vylons are an interesting example. In the story story, they teamed up with the Lavals, Gishki, Gusto, and Gem-Knights in order to beat back the Steelswarms. This ultimately leads to [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Vylon_Omega Vylon Omega]] defeating them. But as it turns out, those sets were only working together to beat the Steelswarms and prior to that were also fighting each other. The Vylons wish for a perfect existence for everyone, but they now see that's impossible. So they've decided to use [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Vylon_Disigma Vylon Disigma]] to KillEmAll.



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters

to:

* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharactersLoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: The game has over 8,000 published cards, with more released several times per year.



** Two old school revival cards have this. Premature Burial states that when it is destroyed, the monster it revived is destroyed. Its effect says nothing about the monster dying if the card is just removed from the field, most famously by returning it to the hand to be played again. Call of the Haunted meanwhile says that when the monster it Summoned is destroyed the card itself also goes, but as with Premature Burial it doesn't go if the monster is removed from the field, leaving Call of the Haunted face-up and useless, unless you have something like Scrap Dragon. Be sure to pay attention to if a card specifically says ''removed from the field'' or ''destroyed'', it makes a huge difference.

to:

** Two old school revival cards have this. Premature Burial states that when it is destroyed, the monster it revived is destroyed. Its effect says nothing about the monster dying if the card is just removed from the field, most famously by returning it to the hand to be played again. Call of the Haunted meanwhile says that when the monster it Summoned is destroyed the card itself also goes, but as with Premature Burial it doesn't go if the monster is removed from the field, leaving Call of the Haunted face-up and useless, unless you have something like Scrap Dragon. Both of the above cards have been on and off the Forbidden list for years, with the aforementioned liability of Call of the Haunted likely being the only reason it's off while Premature Burial is still on. Be sure to pay attention to if a card specifically says ''removed from the field'' or ''destroyed'', it makes a huge difference.
3rd Mar '17 8:15:31 AM Mitis
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Luster_Soldier Black Luster Soldier]] and [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Luster_Soldier_-_Envoy_of_the_Beginning his retrained form.]]

to:

** [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Luster_Soldier Black Luster Soldier]] and Soldier]], who has since had an entire [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Luster_Soldier_-_Envoy_of_the_Beginning his retrained form.]]com/wiki/Black_Luster_Soldier_(archetype) archetype]] made for him, combined with [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gaia_the_Fierce_Knight Gaia the Fierce Knight]].
3rd Mar '17 8:12:38 AM Mitis
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* CantCatchUp: Not only has the game repeatedly gotten new gameplay mechanics, but the newer archetypes simply move a lot faster than the old ones in playstyle. Now, as time goes by, updates do come for older archetypes and series, and if they were used by a popular anime character, they're that much more likely. Most notably, no matter how much time passes, Kaiba's Blue-Eyes White Dragons and Yugi's Dark Magicians are always reliable archetypes. But that's pretty much the extent of it; without real mastery of the game, there's no way that an Ancient Gear or Vehicroid player could hope to go up against the likes Shadolls or Nekroz and get an even duel from it unless the opponent has a truly crummy hand.

to:

* CantCatchUp: Not only has the game repeatedly gotten new gameplay mechanics, but the newer archetypes simply move a lot faster than the old ones in playstyle. Now, as time goes by, updates do come for older archetypes and series, and if they were used by a popular anime character, they're that much more likely. Most notably, no matter how much time passes, Kaiba's Blue-Eyes White Dragons and Yugi's Dark Magicians are always reliable archetypes. But that's pretty much the extent of it; without real mastery of the game, there's no way that an Ancient Gear a Deck solely from the GX era or Vehicroid player earlier could hope stand up to go up against the likes Shadolls or Nekroz and get an even duel from it a post-[=5Ds=] deck unless the opponent has gets a truly crummy hand.
3rd Mar '17 7:49:50 AM Mitis
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* CantCatchUp: Not only has the game repeatedly gotten new gameplay mechanics, but the newer archetypes simply move a lot faster than the old ones in playstyle. Now, most of the old classics receive updates as time goes by to keep them strong through the times, like Kaiba's Blue-Eyes White Dragons, Joey's Red-Eyes Black Dragon, Mai's Harpie Ladies, Pegasus' Toons, and Yugi's Dark Magicians, Gaia the Fierce Knight and, to a lesser extent, Kuriboh. And from the GX series, Jaden's [=HEROs=] and Zane's Cyber Dragons also evolve with the times. But that's pretty much the extent of it; without real mastery of the game, there's no way that an Ancient Gear or Vehicroid player could hope to go up against the likes Shadolls or Nekroz and get an even duel from it unless the opponent has a truly crummy hand.

to:

* CantCatchUp: Not only has the game repeatedly gotten new gameplay mechanics, but the newer archetypes simply move a lot faster than the old ones in playstyle. Now, most of the old classics receive updates as time goes by, updates do come for older archetypes and series, and if they were used by to keep them strong through the times, like a popular anime character, they're that much more likely. Most notably, no matter how much time passes, Kaiba's Blue-Eyes White Dragons, Joey's Red-Eyes Black Dragon, Mai's Harpie Ladies, Pegasus' Toons, Dragons and Yugi's Dark Magicians, Gaia the Fierce Knight and, to a lesser extent, Kuriboh. And from the GX series, Jaden's [=HEROs=] and Zane's Cyber Dragons also evolve with the times.Magicians are always reliable archetypes. But that's pretty much the extent of it; without real mastery of the game, there's no way that an Ancient Gear or Vehicroid player could hope to go up against the likes Shadolls or Nekroz and get an even duel from it unless the opponent has a truly crummy hand.
2nd Mar '17 7:00:57 AM LordDynasmon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* WingedHumanoid: The Harpie Lady archetype, [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Elemental_HERO_Avian Elemental HERO Avian]], quite a few of the [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blackwings Blackwings]], some of the monsters that look [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Absorbing_Kid_From_The_Sky like]] [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shining_Angel angels]] and Yubel, or at least before she goes OneWingedAngel...

to:

* WingedHumanoid: The Harpie Lady archetype, [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Elemental_HERO_Avian Elemental HERO Avian]], quite a few of the [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blackwings Blackwings]], some of the monsters that look [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Absorbing_Kid_From_The_Sky com/wiki/Absorbing_Kid_from_the_Sky like]] [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shining_Angel angels]] and Yubel, or at least before she goes OneWingedAngel...
28th Feb '17 8:52:23 AM LordDynasmon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* RocketTagGameplay: Thanks to the PowerCreep over the years, most duels are usually very brief nowadays. Generally, if you don't manage to take out an opponent in one turn, or at least field cards with effects that make it difficult to retaliate, there's a very high chance they might end up one-turn-killing you the very next turn. The only expections to this would be if both sides are using an archetype that hasn't seen any major additions in a few years, or if one player is playing a ''very'' defense oriented deck, and even then with the latter, it'll likely only buy you a turn or two at most.

to:

* RocketTagGameplay: Thanks to the PowerCreep over the years, most duels are usually very brief nowadays. Generally, if you don't manage to take out an opponent in one turn, or at least field cards with effects that make it difficult to retaliate, there's a very high chance they might end up one-turn-killing you the very next turn. The only expections exceptions to this would be if both sides are using an archetype that hasn't seen any major additions in a few years, or if one player is playing a ''very'' defense oriented deck, and even then with the latter, it'll likely only buy you a turn or two at most.
28th Feb '17 8:29:03 AM LordDynasmon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Similarly, the Extra Deck [[labelnote:*]]back then called the Fusion Deck[[/labelnote]] was almost ''never'' used except for one or two fusion monsters at ''most'', with a general focus on monsters from the Main Deck being the main attack force and your "boss monster" was often included there. Now a days, a max Extra Deck of fifteen cards is pretty much ''required'' if you want to have any hopes of winning consistently, and it's incredibly rare that your boss monster ''isn't'' an Extra Deck monster.

to:

** Similarly, the Extra Deck [[labelnote:*]]back then called the Fusion Deck[[/labelnote]] was almost ''never'' used except for one or two fusion monsters at ''most'', with a general focus on monsters from the Main Deck being the main attack force and your "boss monster" was often included there. Now a days, Nowadays, a max Extra Deck of fifteen cards is pretty much ''required'' if you want to have any hopes of winning consistently, and it's incredibly rare that your boss monster ''isn't'' an Extra Deck monster.



* RocketTagGameplay: Thanks to the PowerCreep over the years, most duels are usually very brief now a days. Generally, if you don't manage to take out an opponent in one turn, or at least field cards with effects that make it difficult to retaliate, there's a very high chance they might end up one-turn-killing you the very next turn. The only expections to this would be if both sides are using an archetype that hasn't seen any major additions in a few years, or if one player is playing a ''very'' defense oriented deck, and even then with the latter, it'll likely only buy you a turn or two at most.

to:

* RocketTagGameplay: Thanks to the PowerCreep over the years, most duels are usually very brief now a days.nowadays. Generally, if you don't manage to take out an opponent in one turn, or at least field cards with effects that make it difficult to retaliate, there's a very high chance they might end up one-turn-killing you the very next turn. The only expections to this would be if both sides are using an archetype that hasn't seen any major additions in a few years, or if one player is playing a ''very'' defense oriented deck, and even then with the latter, it'll likely only buy you a turn or two at most.



** To really sum it up, back in the olden days when the extra deck was called the fusion deck, you pretty much ''only'' ever saw people run fusion monsters with either Elemental [=HEROes=] or possibly Cyber Dragon, and even then, ''maybe'' it'd be around five-seven fusion cards in it. Now a days, having a max extra deck of fifteen cards is pretty much ''required'' if you want to have any hope of winning, even against casual decks.

to:

** To really sum it up, back in the olden days when the extra deck was called the fusion deck, you pretty much ''only'' ever saw people run fusion monsters with either Elemental [=HEROes=] or possibly Cyber Dragon, and even then, ''maybe'' it'd be around five-seven fusion cards in it. Now a days, Nowadays, having a max extra deck of fifteen cards is pretty much ''required'' if you want to have any hope of winning, even against casual decks.
27th Feb '17 2:49:13 PM LordDynasmon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: A number of the new Psychic types from Extreme Victory practically exist to be sent to the graveyard. (Namely [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Serene_Psychic_Witch Serene Psychic Witch]], [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_Psychic_Wizard Silent Psychic Wizard]], and [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hushed_Psychic_Cleric Hushed Psychic Cleric]].) [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Overmind_Archfiend Overmind Archfiend]] also has this going for it, although it's powerful in it's own right.

to:

* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: A number of the new Psychic types from Extreme Victory practically exist to be sent to the graveyard. (Namely [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Serene_Psychic_Witch Serene Psychic Witch]], [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_Psychic_Wizard Silent Psychic Wizard]], and [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hushed_Psychic_Cleric Hushed Psychic Cleric]].) [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Overmind_Archfiend Overmind Archfiend]] also has this going for it, although it's powerful in it's its own right.
27th Feb '17 9:26:14 AM LordDynasmon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FanService - [[ZigzaggedTrope Zigzagged.]] Although most cards which seem to gear towards this are edited for the TCG, but there are edited cards that still retain some {{Fanservice}} elements like BareYourMidriff, examples include [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chocolate_Magician_Gir Chocolate Magician Girll]]and [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Isolde,_Belle_of_the_Underworld Isolde, Belle of the Underworld]].

to:

* FanService - [[ZigzaggedTrope Zigzagged.]] Although most cards which seem to gear towards this are edited for the TCG, but there are edited cards that still retain some {{Fanservice}} elements like BareYourMidriff, examples include [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chocolate_Magician_Gir com/wiki/Chocolate_Magician_Girl Chocolate Magician Girll]]and Girl]]and [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Isolde,_Belle_of_the_Underworld Isolde, Belle of the Underworld]].
27th Feb '17 8:53:32 AM LordDynasmon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ExactWords: See LoopholeAbuse further down the page for the many ways those trope can be abused.

to:

* ExactWords: See LoopholeAbuse further down the page for the many ways those this trope can be abused.
This list shows the last 10 events of 504. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=TabletopGame.YuGiOh