History SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute / VideoGames

15th Feb '18 9:15:46 AM Plactus
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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganronpaV3'' takes place in the Academy for Gifted Juveniles, a school for talented youth that's highly similar to Hope's Peak Academy , the setting of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]], as well as a major part of the eponymous Hope's Peak Saga([[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 the second game]] [[VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls Absolute Despair Girls]] and [[Anime/DanganRonpa3 the Danganronpa 3 anime]]). [[spoiler:It turns out that the Academy for Gifted Juveniles ''is'' Hope's Peak, or at least, the students were meant to think that it was- it's complicated.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganronpaV3'' takes place in the Academy for Gifted Juveniles, a school for talented youth that's highly similar to Hope's Peak Academy , the setting of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]], as well as a major part of the eponymous Hope's Peak Saga([[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 the second game]] [[VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls Absolute Despair Girls]] and [[Anime/DanganRonpa3 the Danganronpa 3 anime]]). [[spoiler:It turns out that the Academy for Gifted Juveniles ''is'' Hope's Peak, or at least, the students were meant to think that it was- it's complicated.]]]]
* In ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic: Knights of the Fallen Empire'', bringing Khem Val back would be problematic for non-Sith Inquisitor Outlanders due to the fact that his story has two vastly different endings, so players can instead recruit a different Dashade, Ak'ghal Usar. Equipment that previously was exclusive to Khem was changed to require a Dashade, so it can be used by Ak'ghal as well, and the two share most of the same gift reactions.
7th Feb '18 4:35:50 PM Valiona
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** ''Videogame/FireEmblemFates'' has Luna, Lazward, and Odin based on Severa, Inigo and Owain from ''Videogame/FireEmblemAwakening''. [[spoiler: Subverted in that they actually ''are'' those three, or at least alternate versions of them from another world.]]

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** ''Videogame/FireEmblemFates'' has Luna, Lazward, Luna[=/=][[DubNameChange Selena]], Lazward[=/=]Laslow, and Odin based on Severa, Inigo and Owain from ''Videogame/FireEmblemAwakening''. [[spoiler: Subverted in that they actually ''are'' those three, or at least alternate versions of them from another world.]]



* ''VideoGame/BestFiends'' dropped the GuestFighter Labbit in the game's Easter 2017 update. He was replaced by Rascal the Easter Bunny, who has all the same abilities as Labbit and was automatically given to anyone who'd already unlocked Labbit. Any progress made on Labbit also carried over to Rascal, so if your Labbit had gotten up to Level 7, you automatically got a Level 7 Rascal. Developer Seriously could have debuted any new character any way they wished, but they went for a character who not only bears a slight resemblance on his own but also came to possess all the same powers as Labbit, suggesting Labbit was cut due to an expired licensing agreement or other issue. It also came without warning or, at least initially, explanation.

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* ''VideoGame/BestFiends'' dropped the GuestFighter Labbit in the game's Easter 2017 update. He was replaced by Rascal the Easter Bunny, who has all the same abilities as Labbit and was automatically given to anyone who'd already unlocked Labbit. Any progress made on Labbit also carried over to Rascal, so if your Labbit had gotten up to Level 7, you automatically got a Level 7 Rascal. Developer Seriously could have debuted any new character any way they wished, but they went for a character who not only bears a slight resemblance on his own but also came to possess all the same powers as Labbit, suggesting Labbit was cut due to an expired licensing agreement or other issue. It also came without warning or, at least initially, explanation.explanation.
* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganronpaV3'' takes place in the Academy for Gifted Juveniles, a school for talented youth that's highly similar to Hope's Peak Academy , the setting of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]], as well as a major part of the eponymous Hope's Peak Saga([[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 the second game]] [[VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls Absolute Despair Girls]] and [[Anime/DanganRonpa3 the Danganronpa 3 anime]]). [[spoiler:It turns out that the Academy for Gifted Juveniles ''is'' Hope's Peak, or at least, the students were meant to think that it was- it's complicated.]]
14th Jan '18 9:19:04 AM Fretless94
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** In ''VideoGame/StreetFighterI'', one of the opponents is Mike, a disgraced African American boxer. ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' introduces Balrog, also a disgraced African American boxer. What makes matters really confusing is that in Japan, Balrog's name is "Mike Bison", so in Japan, the series has two separate characters named Mike who are both disgraced African American boxers. It was thought for many years that the two characters were actually the same person, but Capcom made it clear that they were separate people. Mike's backstory was expanded upon and he was made into a ReformedCriminal, making him the GoodCounterpart to Balrog.
*** The arcade mode in ''VideoGame/StreetFighterV'' has six different versions themed around each game in the franchise. In the ''Street Fighter I'' themed arcade mode, Balrog is playable despite not being in the first game, since he's so similar to Mike. Newcomer Zeku also appears in this mode as a substitute for Geki, the ninja opponent who has been OutOfFocus since the first game.
18th Dec '17 6:57:30 AM bowserbros
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* Adeleine from ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' is a complicated example. The character Ado only appears in ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3''. She has short hair and wears androgynous clothing so many fans [[ViewerGenderConfusion mistook her for male]] (and in fact one of the arguments for Ado being different from Adeleine was "Ado isn't a girl"), though the manga and later a 20th anniversary game confirmed that she is female. ''VideoGame/Kirby64TheCrystalShards'' introduces Adeleine, who is near-identical to Ado in both design and role and has an extremely similar name. It's never been confirmed if "Ado" is Adeleine's nickname, a shortening due to the text box sizes in ''Dream Land 3'', or whether they're separate individuals.

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* Adeleine from ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' is a complicated example. The character Ado only appears in ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3''. She has short hair and wears androgynous clothing so many fans [[ViewerGenderConfusion mistook her for male]] (and in fact one of the arguments for Ado being different from Adeleine was "Ado isn't a girl"), though the manga and later a 20th anniversary game confirmed that she is female. ''VideoGame/Kirby64TheCrystalShards'' introduces Adeleine, who is near-identical to Ado in both design and role and has an extremely similar name. It's For years, HAL never been confirmed nor denied if "Ado" is Adeleine's nickname, a shortening due to the text box sizes in ''Dream Land 3'', or whether they're separate individuals.individuals. Eventually, design documents for ''Kirby 64'' published in a 25th anniversary art book finally clarified that Ado and Adeline are indeed the same character; the text box size issue in ''Dream Land 3'' seems to be the most likely cause of the name discrepancy between the two games.
9th Nov '17 4:28:50 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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** To a degree, Miranda Lawson and Jacob Taylor act as substitutes to Ashley Williams and Kaidan Alenko, who get relegated to a brief cameo in the second game [[spoiler: depending on which one survived the first game]]. Just like Ashley and Kaidan, they serve as Shepard's default squad-mates and possible human love interests (depending on Shepard's gender), one is a sassy human woman with a noticeable resentment of aliens, and the other is a loyal human man with a talent for biotics and a long history in the military. Note that they grow past their SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute status as they undergo CharacterDevelopment, and [[spoiler: either Kaidan or Ashley]] ultimately [[TheBusCameBack returns]] for a larger role in the third game.
18th Oct '17 5:42:27 AM Synchronicity
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* At the end of the GBA version of the first ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' game, Phoenix's assistant Maya leaves to undergo spiritual medium training; she returns in the next game. When a DS remake of the first game was released, they added an extra case to it -- but they couldn't bring Maya back, as one of the cases in the second game revolved around her reunion with Phoenix. So a new character, Ema Skye, became Phoenix's assistant for that one case. When the fourth game changed the entire cast (including Phoenix), Ema replaced [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist Dick Gumshoe]] as the police detective who is routinely run into and switches between the main character's foil and friend.
** This has led to a series of recurring archetypes, though no two characters feel truly the same. Phoenix's successor Apollo is also a snarky, put-upon lawyer constantly at the mercy of strange witnesses. Apollo is much snarkier and more sensible, though is flustered more easily. When playing as Phoenix in the fifth game, Apollo is generally a lot more cheerful than when playing as him.
** Maya has also been replaced by Phoenix's adopted daughter Trucy, who is just as cheerful but more mature and not as mischevious than Maya.
** When Edgeworth got his own spinoff, he picked up a GenkiGirl assistant with a mysterious yet highly relevant past in the form of Kay Faraday.
** The fifth game gives us Athena Cykes, a rookie attorney whose courtroom style fits early Phoenix Wright to a T, while her personality is much closer to the GenkiGirl assistant role.
** Phoenix himself is a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the young version of his mentor Mia Fey, and the older Phoenix from Apollo's game is rather similar to the older Mia from Phoenix's games.
** After Miles Edgeworth, a prickly, win-at-any-costs prosecutor with a tie to one of the heroes in the first game, he's replaced by his adoptive sister Franziska in the second game and the coffee-guzzling Godot in the third. Both are rather similar in temperament and tactics. Apollo's rival Klavier is the exception, as he's actually as laidback and nice as he seems, and has no beef with Apollo.
** In the fifth game things are back to form with prosecutor Simon Blackquill and detective Bobby Fulbright.
** The series-opening prosecutor Winston Payne has been replaced by his brother Gaspen Payne and his English counterpart Prosecutor Flynch in ''ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney''.
** The Judge, likewise, has been replaced by his Canadian brother and ''ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney'' introduced his English counterpart and the Labyrinthian Judge. Taken another step further with the Khura'in Judge in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'' who is an offshoot of the original Judge, but is less likely to get intimated and is more fair to the defense when they have proven their theories.

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* At the end of the GBA version of the first Over time, ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' game, Phoenix's developed a series of recurring character archetypes, although no two characters truly feel the same.
** In the beginning, the protagonist was Phoenix Wright, snarky, put-upon lawyer constantly at the mercy of strange witnesses. Apollo started out as Phoenix but more impulsive and hot-blooded, though he eventually [[DivergentCharacterEvolution diverges]] into his own character. The fifth game gives us Athena Cykes, a rookie attorney whose courtroom style fits early Phoenix Wright to a T, while her personality is much closer to the GenkiGirl
assistant role.
** Phoenix had a young, [[GenkiGirl cheerful]], [[PluckyGirl plucky]] female assistant with a mysterious and highly relevant familial history in the form of Maya. This was enforced with the updated rerelease of the first game[[note]]At the end of the GBA version of the first game,
Maya leaves to undergo spiritual medium training; she returns in the next game. When a DS remake of the first game was released, they added an extra case to it -- but they couldn't bring Maya back, as one of the cases in the second game revolved around her reunion with Phoenix. So a new character, Phoenix[[/note]], which introduced Ema Skye, became Phoenix's assistant who deliberately shares a lot of personality, design, and story beats with Maya. Later, Trucy and Kay filled this role for that one case. When Apollo and Edgeworth respectively.
** Franziska was this to Edgeworth when first introduced -- like him, she's a prickly, win-at-all-costs prosecutor. (Actually justified in her case, since they were raised and trained by
the fourth game changed the entire cast (including Phoenix), Ema replaced [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist Dick Gumshoe]] as the police detective who is routinely run into same man.) The succeeding prosecutors, though following ContrastingSequelAntagonist in design, all tend to be obstructive, condescending, and switches between have with a personal tie to the main character's foil and friend.
** This has led to a series of recurring archetypes, though no two
characters feel truly the same. Phoenix's successor Apollo is also a snarky, put-upon lawyer constantly at the mercy of strange witnesses. Apollo is much snarkier and more sensible, though is flustered more easily. When playing as Phoenix in the fifth game, Apollo is generally a lot more cheerful than when playing as him.
** Maya has also been replaced by Phoenix's adopted daughter Trucy, who is just as cheerful but more mature and not as mischevious than Maya.
** When Edgeworth got his own spinoff, he picked up a GenkiGirl assistant with a mysterious yet highly relevant past in the form of Kay Faraday.
** The fifth game gives us Athena Cykes, a rookie attorney whose courtroom style fits early Phoenix Wright to a T, while her personality is much closer to the GenkiGirl assistant role.
** Phoenix himself is a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the young version of his mentor Mia Fey, and the older Phoenix from Apollo's game is rather similar to the older Mia from Phoenix's games.
** After Miles Edgeworth, a prickly, win-at-any-costs prosecutor with a tie to one of the heroes in the first game, he's replaced by his adoptive sister Franziska in the second game and the coffee-guzzling Godot in the third. Both are rather similar in temperament and tactics. Apollo's rival Klavier
(Klavier is the exception, as he's actually as laidback and nice as he seems, and has no beef with Apollo.
** In the fifth game things are back to form with prosecutor Simon Blackquill and detective Bobby Fulbright.
exception).
** The series-opening prosecutor Winston Payne has been replaced by his brother Gaspen Payne and his English counterpart Prosecutor Flynch in ''ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney''.
''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney''. All three are spineless and pathetic warm-up bosses.
** The Judge, likewise, has been replaced by his Canadian brother and ''ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney'' ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney'' introduced his English counterpart and the Labyrinthian Judge. Taken another step further with the Khura'in Judge in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'' who is an offshoot of the original Judge, but is less likely to get intimated and is more fair to the defense when they have proven their theories.
13th Oct '17 4:33:09 PM TheWarioBros
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** The Broodals from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' are a lot like the Koopalings from the past games, with similar designs and attack patterns (albeit replacing the shell ducking part with them ducking into their hats). They're also a lot like Boom Boom and Pom Pom, who play similar mini boss roles.
17th Aug '17 10:08:22 PM KandC
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* ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'': The second game begins with the characters the previous game had been pursuing. While their personalities are different, their classes are functionally identical- Isaac and Felix are both Squires, Ivan and Sheba are both Seers. And in the third game, the tradition continues with Matthew and Tyrell, who take their respective fathers' classes (Isaac and Garet).

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* ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'': The second game begins with the characters the previous game had been pursuing. While their personalities are different, their classes are functionally identical- Isaac and Felix are both Squires, Ivan and Sheba are both Seers. However, their weapon choices are a little different, as Jenna has Ivan's staves and light swords while Sheba takes Mia's staves and maces and Piers goes for the heavy weapons Isaac, Garet, and Felix all use. And in the third game, the tradition continues with Matthew and Tyrell, who take their respective fathers' classes (Isaac and Garet).
17th Aug '17 9:46:26 PM wingedcatgirl
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* According to WordOfGod, Roxas from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' was made one of these on purpose in ''358/2 days'', due to worries that people might be uncomfortable playing through the whole game with a character who plays too differently from Sora. So his stats, abilities, and magical capabilities were Sora-fied. This, however, is justified, since Roxas and Sora are essentially the same person anyway.

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'':
** Namine in ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories Chain of Memories]]'' is remarkably similar to Kairi, even down to the ThemeNaming ("nami" and "kai" both mean sea-related things). And, disturbingly, seems to be replacing her over the course of the game even in Sora's memories, despite [[RememberTheNewGuy having never been mentioned before]]. This all turns out to be part of the Organization's evil plot, and Namine's similarity to Kairi is because she's Kairi's Nobody.
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According to WordOfGod, Roxas from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' was made one of these on purpose in ''358/2 days'', ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 358/2 days]]'', due to worries that people might be uncomfortable playing through the whole game with a character who plays too differently from Sora. So his stats, abilities, and magical capabilities were Sora-fied. This, however, is justified, since Roxas and Sora are essentially the same person anyway.also turns out to be Sora's Nobody, which players of ''Chain of Memories'' might have seen coming.
8th Jul '17 5:47:28 PM nombretomado
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** WordOfGod and TheOtherWiki [[MyNameIsNotShazam says Ruf is not a tuner, but a fully-fledged carmaker and is recognized as the latter by the German government]]. So far, the only RUF cars that are not based on Porsches are the series production [=CTR3=] and the [[SuperPrototype R50 concept car]].

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** WordOfGod and TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki [[MyNameIsNotShazam says Ruf is not a tuner, but a fully-fledged carmaker and is recognized as the latter by the German government]]. So far, the only RUF cars that are not based on Porsches are the series production [=CTR3=] and the [[SuperPrototype R50 concept car]].
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