History StockDinosaurs / WalkingWithDinosaurs

17th Sep '17 1:44:25 PM nombretomado
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** '''Apatosaurus aka Brontosaurus''': Averted initially. The sauropod which appears in "Time of the Titans" is the much longer relative ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Diplodocus]]'' (plus ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Brachiosaurus]]'' making a cameo); but then producers felt sorrow because of this choice, and added ''Apatosaurus'' in the "Ballad of Big Al" special. Despite this we can easily forgive them, since it is called ''Apatosaurus'' instead of ''Brontosaurus'' and has the correct head-shape and whip-like tail, at last...

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** '''Apatosaurus aka Brontosaurus''': Averted initially. The sauropod which appears in "Time of the Titans" is the much longer relative ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Diplodocus]]'' (plus ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Brachiosaurus]]'' making a cameo); but then producers felt sorrow because of this choice, and added ''Apatosaurus'' in the "Ballad of Big Al" special. Despite this we can easily forgive them, since it is called ''Apatosaurus'' instead of ''Brontosaurus'' and has the correct head-shape and whip-like tail, at last...



** '''Diplodocus, Brachiosaurus and the "Largest Sauropod"''': ''Diplodocus'' was chosen as the main sauropod both in "Time of the Titans" and "Big Al" because it was longer than ''Apatosaurus'' and thus [[RuleOfCool more striking]]; the same thing about the classically "Woah he's the largest dino!" ''Brachiosaurus'', although this one makes only very brief cameos (it is actually modeled upon its African relative ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeSauropods Giraffatitan]]'', but this is justified since the the division in different genera was not widely accepted [[ScienceMarchesOn before 2009]]). Talking about the "modern" record-holding sauropods, the special "Land of Giants" was made just to show the one which was detaining the record in the year the episode was created (2001): ''Argentinosaurus''. However it did not become a true stock animal after that, unlike its predator ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Giganotosaurus]]'', probably because of the "sauropod confusion" in pop-culture.

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** '''Diplodocus, Brachiosaurus and the "Largest Sauropod"''': ''Diplodocus'' was chosen as the main sauropod both in "Time of the Titans" and "Big Al" because it was longer than ''Apatosaurus'' and thus [[RuleOfCool more striking]]; the same thing about the classically "Woah he's the largest dino!" ''Brachiosaurus'', although this one makes only very brief cameos (it is actually modeled upon its African relative ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeSauropods Giraffatitan]]'', but this is justified since the the division in different genera was not widely accepted [[ScienceMarchesOn before 2009]]). Talking about the "modern" record-holding sauropods, the special "Land of Giants" was made just to show the one which was detaining the record in the year the episode was created (2001): ''Argentinosaurus''. However it did not become a true stock animal after that, unlike its predator ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Giganotosaurus]]'', probably because of the "sauropod confusion" in pop-culture.



** '''Iguanodon''': This is the main dinosaur portrayed in the Early Cretaceous episode of WWD (more precisely in the pterosaur-dedicated "Giant of the Skies"); and then some sort of "iguanodont" species appears as ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Giganotosaurus]]'' main prey in ''Chased by Dinosaurs'' (another example of MisplacedWildlife: iguanodonts of that size are unknown in that habitat). Interesting that, few months after, Disney's movie ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}'' (very successful at the time if the box-office is concerned) portrayed this dinosaur as the main character. [[DuelingMovies Both shows]] have perhaps the merit to have done justice to one of the best-known and most important dinosaurs in Paleontology (much like the aforementioned ''Allosaurus'' example).

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** '''Iguanodon''': This is the main dinosaur portrayed in the Early Cretaceous episode of WWD (more precisely in the pterosaur-dedicated "Giant of the Skies"); and then some sort of "iguanodont" species appears as ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Giganotosaurus]]'' main prey in ''Chased by Dinosaurs'' (another example of MisplacedWildlife: iguanodonts of that size are unknown in that habitat). Interesting that, few months after, Disney's movie ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}'' (very successful at the time if the box-office is concerned) portrayed this dinosaur as the main character. [[DuelingMovies Both shows]] have perhaps the merit to have done justice to one of the best-known and most important dinosaurs in Paleontology (much like the aforementioned ''Allosaurus'' example).



** '''Protoceratops''': This small, hornless ''Triceratops'' relative (the most scientifically-known Asian dinosaur) appears in the same episode in which ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Velociraptor]]'' and ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeBirdlikeTheropods Therizinosaurus]]'' are portrayed, and it isn't shown chasing an egg-robbing ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Oviraptor]]'' to defend its nest as most paleo-artists used to represent ''Protoceratops'' in the past. Walking With did the research again: there isn't any proof of this thing today.

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** '''Protoceratops''': This small, hornless ''Triceratops'' relative (the most scientifically-known Asian dinosaur) appears in the same episode in which ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Velociraptor]]'' and ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeBirdlikeTheropods Therizinosaurus]]'' are portrayed, and it isn't shown chasing an egg-robbing ''[[StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs ''[[UsefulNotes/StockDinosaursTrueDinosaurs Oviraptor]]'' to defend its nest as most paleo-artists used to represent ''Protoceratops'' in the past. Walking With did the research again: there isn't any proof of this thing today.
8th Aug '17 10:05:54 PM ElSquibbonator
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** '''Pteranodon''': The iconic flying reptile is totally missing in WWD, because its habitat wasn't recreated in any episode; again, producers felt sad about that and later depicted ''Pteranodon'' in the other ''Chased by Dinosaurs'' special in a [[MisplacedWildlife totally misplaced way]], living in South instead of North America and [[AnachronismStew in the Middle instead of the Late Cretaceous]][[note]]Somewhat justified as, at the time, what was thought to be Pteranodon remains were found in South America; nowadays said bones are thought to belong to a close relative[[/note]]. They later showed the animals in the right place in ''Sea Monsters''. A pterosaur that superficially resembles ''Pteranodon'' (possibly a ''Ludodactylus'') appeared briefly in "Giant of the Skies" when the ''Ornithochierus'' steals a fish from it, but its exact species was never clarified and it's replaced by another ''Ornithocheirus'' in the book.

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** '''Pteranodon''': The iconic flying reptile is totally missing in WWD, because its habitat wasn't recreated in any episode; again, producers felt sad about that and later depicted ''Pteranodon'' in the other ''Chased by Dinosaurs'' special in a [[MisplacedWildlife totally misplaced way]], living in South instead of North America and [[AnachronismStew in the Middle instead of the Late Cretaceous]][[note]]Somewhat justified as, at the time, what was thought to be Pteranodon remains were found in South America; nowadays said bones are thought to belong to a close relative[[/note]]. They later showed the animals in the right place in ''Sea Monsters''. A pterosaur that superficially resembles ''Pteranodon'' (possibly (though it might have been a ''Ludodactylus'') ''Ludodactylus'', given the time and place) appeared briefly in "Giant of the Skies" when the ''Ornithochierus'' steals a fish from it, but its exact species was never clarified and it's replaced by another ''Ornithocheirus'' in the book.
8th Aug '17 10:05:21 PM ElSquibbonator
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** '''Pteranodon''': The iconic flying reptile is totally missing in WWD, because its habitat wasn't recreated in any episode; again, producers felt sad about that and later depicted ''Pteranodon'' in the other ''Chased by Dinosaurs'' special in a [[MisplacedWildlife totally misplaced way]], living in South instead of North America and [[AnachronismStew in the Middle instead of the Late Cretaceous]][[note]]Somewhat justified as, at the time, what was thought to be Pteranodon remains were found in South America; nowadays said bones are thought to belong to a close relative[[/note]]. They later showed the animals in the right place in ''Sea Monsters''. A pterosaur that superficially resembles ''Pteranodon'' appeared briefly in "Giant of the Skies" (the ''Ornithocheirus'' steals some food from it) but its exact species was never clarified and it's replaced by another ''Ornithocheirus'' in the book.

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** '''Pteranodon''': The iconic flying reptile is totally missing in WWD, because its habitat wasn't recreated in any episode; again, producers felt sad about that and later depicted ''Pteranodon'' in the other ''Chased by Dinosaurs'' special in a [[MisplacedWildlife totally misplaced way]], living in South instead of North America and [[AnachronismStew in the Middle instead of the Late Cretaceous]][[note]]Somewhat justified as, at the time, what was thought to be Pteranodon remains were found in South America; nowadays said bones are thought to belong to a close relative[[/note]]. They later showed the animals in the right place in ''Sea Monsters''. A pterosaur that superficially resembles ''Pteranodon'' (possibly a ''Ludodactylus'') appeared briefly in "Giant of the Skies" (the ''Ornithocheirus'' when the ''Ornithochierus'' steals some food a fish from it) it, but its exact species was never clarified and it's replaced by another ''Ornithocheirus'' in the book.
8th Aug '17 10:02:45 PM ElSquibbonator
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** '''Allosaurus:''' ''Allosaurus'' has only a minor role in "Time of The Titans" (although it appears, obviously, as the BigBad of its habitat). But then it becomes the great protagonist of "The Ballad of Big Al", a show appropriately dedicated to a specific ''Allosaurus''. For the first time visual media has done justice [[PoorMansSubstitute to its species]] at last; here it appears as a predator even more lethal than ''Tyrannosaurus'' despite being smaller, because of its capability to kill adult sauropods (while ''T. rex'' preferred to hunt ceratopsians, hadrosaurs, and ankylosaurs: it did have a sauropod in its habitat, but its crushing teeth work against it in a severe case of CripplingOverspecialization).

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** '''Allosaurus:''' ''Allosaurus'' has only a minor role in "Time of The Titans" (although it appears, obviously, as the BigBad of its habitat). But then it becomes the great protagonist of "The Ballad of Big Al", a show appropriately dedicated to a specific ''Allosaurus''. For the first time visual media has done justice [[PoorMansSubstitute to its species]] at last; here it appears as a predator that is in some ways even more lethal ''more'' deadly than ''Tyrannosaurus'' despite being smaller, because of its capability to kill adult sauropods (while ''T. rex'' preferred to hunt ceratopsians, hadrosaurs, and ankylosaurs: it did have a sauropod in its habitat, but its crushing teeth work against it in a severe case of CripplingOverspecialization).
4th Aug '17 8:47:41 AM ElSquibbonator
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** '''Allosaurus:''' ''Allosaurus'' has only a minor role in "Time of The Titans" (although it appears, obviously, as the BigBad of its habitat). But then it becomes the great protagonist of "The Ballad of Big Al", a show appropriately dedicated to a specific ''Allosaurus''. For the first time visual media has done justice [[PoorMansSubstitute to its species]] at last; here it appears as a predator even more lethal than ''Tyrannosaurus'' despite being smaller, because of its capability to kill the largest sauropods (while ''T. rex'' only killed the relatively smaller hadrosaurs and ceratopsians: it did have a sauropod in its habitat, but its crushing teeth work against it in a severe case of CripplingOverspecialization).

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** '''Allosaurus:''' ''Allosaurus'' has only a minor role in "Time of The Titans" (although it appears, obviously, as the BigBad of its habitat). But then it becomes the great protagonist of "The Ballad of Big Al", a show appropriately dedicated to a specific ''Allosaurus''. For the first time visual media has done justice [[PoorMansSubstitute to its species]] at last; here it appears as a predator even more lethal than ''Tyrannosaurus'' despite being smaller, because of its capability to kill the largest adult sauropods (while ''T. rex'' only killed the relatively smaller hadrosaurs preferred to hunt ceratopsians, hadrosaurs, and ceratopsians: ankylosaurs: it did have a sauropod in its habitat, but its crushing teeth work against it in a severe case of CripplingOverspecialization).
9th Nov '16 1:48:21 AM Morgenthaler
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** '''Stegosaurus:''' Appears in both the episodes located in Late Jurassic North America, but interestingly, it has only minor roles in both shows, and it's depicted as a rather BadAss animal, contrary to the "predestined loser" TooDumbToLive we see traditionally.

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** '''Stegosaurus:''' Appears in both the episodes located in Late Jurassic North America, but interestingly, it has only minor roles in both shows, and it's depicted as a rather BadAss badass animal, contrary to the "predestined loser" TooDumbToLive we see traditionally.
23rd Apr '16 11:58:01 AM TVRulezAgain
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** '''Hadrosaurs:''' WWD portrays ''Anatotitan'' as the representative of the duck-billed dinosaur group, but has only a very small role (it serves mainly to give a prey to the hungry mother tyrannosaur). It may seem an aversion, since the name ''Anatotitan'' was known only by scientists and dino-fans before that; but don't forget that ''Anatotitan'', as a synonym of ''Edmontosaurus'', is technically the hadrosaur which used to be identified as one of the two iconic pop-cultural hadrosaurs: ''Anatosaurus'' aka ''Trachodon''. The reason behind the choice of ''Anatotitan'' instead of the other iconic duckbill ''Parasaurolophus'' in the main WWD is not an aversion of the trope, but just scientific accuracy: the former did live alongside the "rex", unlike the latter which lived slighty earlier. However, we can see another non-stock duckbill in Late Cretaceous Asia (in the aforementioned "Giant Claw" episode): ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeHadrosaurs Saurolophus]]'' (the species Ducky from ''LandBeforeTime'' resembles the most, to make things clear); this choice is correct since ''Saurolophus'' is the most common Asian hadrosaur in fossil record.

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** '''Hadrosaurs:''' WWD portrays ''Anatotitan'' as the representative of the duck-billed dinosaur group, but has only a very small role (it serves mainly to give a prey to the hungry mother tyrannosaur). It may seem an aversion, since the name ''Anatotitan'' was known only by scientists and dino-fans before that; but don't forget that ''Anatotitan'', as a synonym of ''Edmontosaurus'', is technically the hadrosaur which used to be identified as one of the two iconic pop-cultural hadrosaurs: ''Anatosaurus'' aka ''Trachodon''. The reason behind the choice of ''Anatotitan'' instead of the other iconic duckbill ''Parasaurolophus'' in the main WWD is not an aversion of the trope, but just scientific accuracy: the former did live alongside the "rex", unlike the latter which lived slighty slightly earlier. However, we can see another non-stock duckbill in Late Cretaceous Asia (in the aforementioned "Giant Claw" episode): ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeHadrosaurs Saurolophus]]'' (the species Ducky from ''LandBeforeTime'' ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'' resembles the most, to make things clear); this choice is correct since ''Saurolophus'' is the most common Asian hadrosaur in fossil record.
21st Mar '16 9:45:01 PM concolor
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*** Its relative ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeCeratopsids Torosaurus]]'' appears instead of ''Triceratops'' in WWD because the former is arguably [[RuleOfCool cooler-looking]] due to its larger frill. Ironically, it's now theorized that they're the same animal.

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*** Its relative ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeCeratopsids Torosaurus]]'' appears instead of ''Triceratops'' in WWD because the former is arguably [[RuleOfCool cooler-looking]] due to its larger frill. Ironically, it's now theorized that they're the same animal.
15th Jan '16 11:45:50 PM Anddrix
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*** However, it appears later in one of the two specials of ''Chased By Dinosaurs'' ("The Giant Claw"). This program was allegedly made to show the huge-clawed ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeBirdlikeTheropods Therizinosaurus]]'', but some people [[WildMassGuessing suspect]] the ''real'' goal just was to show [[ViewersAreMorons the animal whose name identifies the whole dromaeosaur group in pop-consciousness]].

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*** However, it appears later in one of the two specials of ''Chased By Dinosaurs'' ("The Giant Claw"). This program was allegedly made to show the huge-clawed ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeBirdlikeTheropods Therizinosaurus]]'', but some people [[WildMassGuessing suspect]] the ''real'' goal just was to show [[ViewersAreMorons the animal whose name identifies the whole dromaeosaur group in pop-consciousness]].pop-consciousness.
22nd Aug '15 10:34:08 PM PCAwesomeness
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** '''Walking With Monsters''': Another good ensemble of animals, this time those living before the dinosaurs. The only animal which already was well-known among large audiences is ''Dimetrodon'', and many dino-fans have been pleasantly surprised to see things such as ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Anomalocaris]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Haikouichthys]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Cephalaspis]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Pterygotus]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Meganeura]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Arthropleura]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Edaphosaurus]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Lystrosaurus]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Euparkeria]]'' and so on in a medium that is not an illustrated book. There is a strong RuleOfCool influence however, with many interesting animals not appearing, and the show generally does prefer showing the most impressive creature rather than the most significative in history of evolution (as said in the main page).

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** '''Walking With Monsters''': Another good ensemble of animals, this time those living before the dinosaurs. The only animal which already was well-known among large audiences is ''Dimetrodon'', and many dino-fans have been pleasantly surprised to see things such as ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Anomalocaris]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Haikouichthys]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Cephalaspis]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Pterygotus]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Meganeura]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures Arthropleura]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeNonDinosaurianReptiles Edaphosaurus]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeNonDinosaurianReptiles Lystrosaurus]]'', ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeOtherExtinctCreatures ''[[UsefulNotes/PrehistoricLifeNonDinosaurianReptiles Euparkeria]]'' and so on in a medium that is not an illustrated book. There is a strong RuleOfCool influence however, with many interesting animals not appearing, and the show generally does prefer showing the most impressive creature rather than the most significative in history of evolution (as said in the main page).
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