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22nd Feb '18 8:28:32 PM JJHIL325
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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' and ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/StevenUniverse have their]] [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/SouthPark own pages]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' and ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/StevenUniverse have their]] [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/SouthPark own pages]].''SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/SouthPark''
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13th Feb '18 2:52:38 PM Excelsior123
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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' has its [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/SouthPark own page]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' has its and ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/StevenUniverse have their]] [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped/SouthPark own page]].pages]].



* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' preached a lot of messages about honesty and not taking advantage of people. One of the best examples is ''Patty Hype'', where Spongebob starts to sell Pretty Patties, a brand of brightly colored Krabby Pattie. The Pretty Patties become a runaway hit, despite Mr. Krabs and Squidward laughing in Spongebob's face. First of all, it shows you that you shouldn't give up on your dreams, even if you're laughed at because of them. And then when Mr. Krabs cheats Spongebob out of the Pretty Patty franchise, it comes back to bite him in the ass.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' preached a lot of messages about honesty and not taking advantage of people. One of the best examples is ''Patty Hype'', where Spongebob starts to sell Pretty Patties, a brand of brightly colored Krabby Pattie.Patties. The Pretty Patties become a runaway hit, despite Mr. Krabs and Squidward laughing in Spongebob's face. First of all, it shows you that you shouldn't give up on your dreams, even if you're laughed at because of them. And then when Mr. Krabs cheats Spongebob out of the Pretty Patty franchise, it comes back to bite him in the ass.



* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
** Open Book" helps teach that it's trivial for friends to fight over things like fantasy books by having Connie not be mad at Steven despite him liking the ending of the "Spirit Morph Saga" even though she hated it. It delivers the message more when she says that it's just a book, showing that you shouldn't care about stuff like book series or TV shows more than your friends.
** "Say Uncle" has the message that you shouldn't judge others just because they're different, you don't understand them, or you don't like their sense of humor or personality and that you shouldn't just blindly hate things. This message was especially needed after the behavior of a chunk of the SU fandom towards fans of both 'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and ''WesternAnimation/UncleGrandpa'', and even the show Uncle Grandpa itself.
** "Love Letters" provides two regarding love and relationships: 1) LoveAtFirstSight doesn't exist. Real love takes time and work, and you have to know the person. And 2) If someone is interested in you and you don't feel the same way, you are in your own rights to reject them.
*** On a related message, "We Need To Talk" deals with the problems of rushing into a relationship.
** The theme of consent is often explored through fusions- whether it's Stevonnie reaffirming their desire to stay fused, the literal forced fusion experiments done by Homeworld or [[spoiler: Garnet becoming furious to Pearl due to fusing with her under false pretenses]], the writers want to make it very clear how important consent is (unless you're a bad guy, then it doesn't matter).
** Another theme of the show is that [[ParentsAsPeople your parental figures are still people with their own insecurities, flaws, and mistakes]].
** Stevenbomb 3 shows an uncommon lesson in cartoons: not all conflicts will be resolved by the end of the day. If someone is seriously upset about something that you did, it's going to take some time for them to forgive you. It also seems to preach several things about interpersonal conflicts:
*** "Cry for Help" is about how easy it is to mess up a relationship over something trivial to you, but serious to another.
*** "Keystone Motel" looks at the process of solving interpersonal conflicts; Ruby doesn't want to forgive Pearl yet, citing her rage at how much she feels betrayed by Pearl. Sapphire wants nothing but to forgive Pearl and move on, ending the conflict. Both of these perspectives are revealed to be bad by the end of the episode: Ruby just wanted an excuse to be angry and not have to forgive anyone, while Sapphire neglected her own personal feelings for the sake of pragmatism. In the end, they reconcile, and come to the conclusion that while they will eventually forgive Pearl, they aren't ready to just yet. You have a right to be angry at someone for something they did, but in the end, keeping a conflict alive will only cause more turmoil, while ending it before everyone is ready to forgive will satisfy no-one. Furthermore, it shows on what happens when one tries to escape the conflict. Garnet accompanied Steven and Greg on their roadtrip so she could get away from the house. After she splits, both Ruby and Sapphire end up causing emotional turmoil for Steven and some financial troubles for Greg. Despite Greg's valiant efforts, Steven just reaches his limit before he just lets out the emotional frustrations. It's a reminder on how handling strife affects everyone else. Sapphire and Ruby stop fighting the moment Steven drops his plate in resignation and leaves the restaurant and they follow.
*** "Friend Ship": Pearl's constant attempts to force forgiveness on Garnet only made the situation worse for everyone, leading to the Aesop of "people will forgive when they are ready, and trying to force someone to forgive another is wrong." There's also a secondary one: talking about your weaknesses enables healthy communication and understanding; Pearl's issues that caused most of the conflict are revealed to have come about because she saw Garnet as "the perfect relationship" and as a source of strength with no weaknesses that Pearl herself could never achieve because she's [[SlaveRace "just a Pearl"]]. Garnet responds by saying that she does have weaknesses but she [[TheReliableOne has to work in spite of them for the group's sake]] and that she draws strength from Pearl, [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre giving several reasons why]].
** "Historical Friction" has the message that everyone makes mistakes, and the important thing is to learn from said mistakes and keep trying. An especially important message considering the events of "Cry for Help".
*** Also could be considered an aesop on presenting historical figures in an honest light rather than glossing over their flaws. Considering how much figures like Martin Luthur King Jr., Ghandi, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Nelson Mandela are held on a pedestal without acknowledging the mistakes they made or the less-than-noble things they've done, this message couldn't be dropped too hard.
** "Nightmare Hospital" and "Sadie's Song" both seem to have the message that you should talk to your parents about your problems and confront them if they're being to controlling so you can work things out. They might not even realize how badly their behavior is affecting you until you tell them.
*** "Nightmare Hospital" also points out through that while your parents might be strict and overbearing, refusing to show them what's going on in your life and what your interests are will only make things worse. It takes both Dr. Maheswaran realizing how much her ControlFreak tendencies are hurting her daughter and Connie no longer hiding her monster-fighting and telling her mother about the Gems to massively improve their relationship.
** "Onion Friend": Even those who seem eccentric or weird can be great friends once you get to know them.
** "Coach Steven": Devotion and awareness are key points to being strong, and strength is more than just physical.
** "Story For Steven": After Greg's former manager Marty makes a rather objectifying comment suggesting Greg should ditch "one huge woman" (Rose Quartz) for "multiple small ones", Greg responds back proclaiming that women are people.
** "Beach City Drift":
*** If you devote your time and energy towards hating someone, he'll waste your life without even doing anything.
*** If you're dealing with somebody who is a narcissistic jerk, the best thing you can do is to simply move on from their actions and be the better person for not letting them get to you. In the middle of the race, Stevonnie defuses because Steven's hatred towards Kevin overwhelms them. Connie helps Steven realize that Kevin's getting to him by [[ArmorPiercingQuestion asking if beating him is actually worth it]]. Steven realizes that it's not, and spend the rest of race simply enjoying themselves and they are {{Graceful Loser}}s when Kevin beats them. Kevin [[EvilCannotComprehendGood is completely bewildered by this and can't wrap his head around it]].
** "Rocknaldo" isn't a well-liked episode, but it still makes a really important point: If you're a kind, selfless person, don't let other people use that as an excuse to walk on you or otherwise take advantage of your kindness. Anyone who does that is probably a {{Jerkass}} and deserves to be called out for it.
*** "Room For Ruby" expands on this by dropping the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that [[TheFarmerAndTheViper some people are willing to take advantage of your kindness in order to get what they want and stab you in the back]].
** "Alone at Sea" has a pretty obvious metaphor for abusive relationships, and how breaking free of them is important, while emphasizing the guilt that abuse victims often feel (even though the relationship shown is strangely two-sided, with both individuals being poisenous to each other. The difference being that one of them actually feels bad about it and refuses to go back.)
** Steven's confrontations with [[spoiler: Bismuth, Jasper, and Eyeball]] during Season Three [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop force him to learn]] that while there's nothing wrong with trying to resolve things peacefully, diplomacy will '''''NOT''''' work with every foe you face and sometimes ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, ''especially'' when dealing with somebody that will stop at nothing until they see you dead.
** Mindful Education, especially the song "Here Comes a Thought," is about how refusing to think about something bad you did will only make things worse. Connie is only able to get passed accidentally hurting a classmate when she gets up the nerve to apologize to him. Also, Steven's guilt over what happened with [[spoiler: Bismuth, Jasper, and Eyeball]] almost overwhelms Stevonnie; he has to acknowledge that it happened and that he did the best he could in those situations to work through it.
** "Gem Harvest":
*** It can be uncomfortable hanging around bigots and reactionaries (especially if they're your relatives) but they're still people, and they are capable of becoming more openminded when given the time and encouragement to do so.
*** Family, and life in general, always changes. It sucks, but you need to acknowledge that you can't stay in the past forever.
*** Your extended family may be weird, but that doesn't mean you can't love them.
** "The Zoo"; You have to establish boundaries and consent that makes YOU comfortable in a relationship, regardless of what the other person might think or how they might react. Although all the Zoomans become miserable over Greg turning them down during the Choosening Ceremony, Greg still has every single right to do so.
** Connie being furious at Steven for [[spoiler: giving himself up to Homeworld and his DissonantSerenity attitude after he made it back only on a stroke of luck]] and not talking to him from "Dewey Wins" to "Kevin's Party" demonstrate that if you purposely and recklessly endanger yourself, even if it's done to protect somebody, [[AngerBornOfWorry people will be angry with you]] no matter how "justified" the circumstances made it. Also, pretending that the emotional pain it causes (yours ''or'' theirs) doesn't matter is NOT okay and doing so will only make them even more furious than they already are.
11th Feb '18 2:19:04 PM JJHIL325
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11th Feb '18 2:19:03 PM JJHIL325
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->'''Amy''': [[ThirdPersonPerson It all comes down to this one penalty kick. Can the young woman break the glass ceiling and prove once and for all that a female can be just as good as an athlete than a male]]?
->'''Knuckles''': You know, Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo. ''(Everyone stares in stunned silence)'' [[DefensiveWhat What?]] [[DumbassHasAPoint Just because I'm a meathead doesn't mean I'm not a feminist]].

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->'''Amy''': -->'''Amy''': [[ThirdPersonPerson It all comes down to this one penalty kick. Can the young woman break the glass ceiling and prove once and for all that a female can be just as good as an athlete than a male]]?
->'''Knuckles''': -->'''Knuckles''': You know, Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo. ''(Everyone stares in stunned silence)'' [[DefensiveWhat What?]] [[DumbassHasAPoint Just because I'm a meathead doesn't mean I'm not a feminist]].
11th Feb '18 2:18:38 PM JJHIL325
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* The ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'' episode "Eggman's Anti-Gravity Ray" gives the audience a good explanation of feminism (and subsequently deconstructing the YouGoGirl trope) in one short scene:
->'''Amy''': [[ThirdPersonPerson It all comes down to this one penalty kick. Can the young woman break the glass ceiling and prove once and for all that a female can be just as good as an athlete than a male]]?
->'''Knuckles''': You know, Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo. ''(Everyone stares in stunned silence)'' [[DefensiveWhat What?]] [[DumbassHasAPoint Just because I'm a meathead doesn't mean I'm not a feminist]].
6th Feb '18 12:54:32 AM SeptimusHeap
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* RegularShow:

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* RegularShow:WesternAnimation/RegularShow:
3rd Feb '18 2:31:54 PM nombretomado
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* "Franchise/MonsterHigh and Kind Campaign: The Shockumentary." Anyone-on-anyone hostility, especially bullying, is NEVER hot or right and we should never think it can be either one no matter what. Just as bullying can be our problem, so too the solution can come from us as well. We must always try to "find kind"--the kindness within everyone.

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* "Franchise/MonsterHigh "WesternAnimation/MonsterHigh and Kind Campaign: The Shockumentary." Anyone-on-anyone hostility, especially bullying, is NEVER hot or right and we should never think it can be either one no matter what. Just as bullying can be our problem, so too the solution can come from us as well. We must always try to "find kind"--the kindness within everyone.
31st Jan '18 10:24:23 PM infernape612
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* In one of the AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle segments in He-Man, He-Man and She-Ra addressed the problem of sexual abuse. After the episode ran, at least one kid was able to come forward and admit to his or her parents about being sexually abused.

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* In one of the AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle segments in He-Man, ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983'', He-Man and She-Ra addressed the problem of sexual abuse. After the episode ran, at least one kid was able to come forward and admit to his or her parents about being sexually abused.



** WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra also follows these up. For example, the moral that when trying to fight evil, one should be careful to not become [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as bad as those you fight.]] (For example, many people became anti-bending Equalists so they could prevent the damage that some benders do. When they themselves became dangerous terrorists, powerful benders such as Tarrlok resorted to martial law and internment of the innocent. Both these reactions were wrong).

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** WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' also follows these up. For example, the moral that when trying to fight evil, one should be careful to not become [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as bad as those you fight.]] (For example, many people became anti-bending Equalists so they could prevent the damage that some benders do. When they themselves became dangerous terrorists, powerful benders such as Tarrlok resorted to martial law and internment of the innocent. Both these reactions were wrong).



--> '''Bryan Konietzko''': Despite what you might have heard, bisexual people are real!

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--> ---> '''Bryan Konietzko''': Despite what you might have heard, bisexual people are real!



* The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries' episode "Mean Seasons" had VillainOfTheWeek Calendar Girl, who was once a renowned model but was fired for being unable to compete with younger models. She eventually decides to extract revenge on all the companies and networks who had fired her and ruined her career. Throughout the episode, she always wears a full-face mask since she had so much plastic surgery done before turning evil. But when the police unmask her, she begins to scream and writhe on the ground, horrified that they see her "ugly" face. She is in her late-thirties and just as attractive as the other models seen.
--> '''Batgirl''': She's beautiful.\\

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* The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries' ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Mean Seasons" had VillainOfTheWeek Calendar Girl, who was once a renowned model but was fired for being unable to compete with younger models. She eventually decides to extract revenge on all the companies and networks who had fired her and ruined her career. Throughout the episode, she always wears a full-face mask since she had so much plastic surgery done before turning evil. But when the police unmask her, she begins to scream and writhe on the ground, horrified that they see her "ugly" face. She is in her late-thirties and just as attractive as the other models seen.
--> '''Batgirl''': -->'''Batgirl''': She's beautiful.\\



-->'''Bojack:''' You're a hero, the troops are all heroes, every single one.
-->'''Bojack:''' And I don't believe saying that cheapens the word and disrespects those we mean to honor by turning real people into political pawns.
-->'''Bojack:''' Also, I am NOT deeply ambivalent about a seemingly mandated celebration of our military that claims to value peace, [[BrokenAesop telling our children that violence is never the answer, while refusing to hold our own government to the same standard]].
-->'''Bojack:''' Furthermore I do not find it unbelievably appropriate that this conversation is taking place on reality television, a genre which thrives on chopping the complexities of our era into easily digestible chunks of empty catchphrases.

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-->'''Bojack:''' You're a hero, the troops are all heroes, every single one.
-->'''Bojack:'''
one.\\
'''Bojack:'''
And I don't believe saying that cheapens the word and disrespects those we mean to honor by turning real people into political pawns.
-->'''Bojack:'''
pawns.\\
'''Bojack:'''
Also, I am NOT deeply ambivalent about a seemingly mandated celebration of our military that claims to value peace, [[BrokenAesop telling our children that violence is never the answer, while refusing to hold our own government to the same standard]].
-->'''Bojack:'''
standard]].\\
'''Bojack:'''
Furthermore I do not find it unbelievably appropriate that this conversation is taking place on reality television, a genre which thrives on chopping the complexities of our era into easily digestible chunks of empty catchphrases.



-->'''Todd''': [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech No. No, [=BoJack=], just stop. YOU are all the things that are wrong with you!]] It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or [[DarkAndTroubledPast any the shitty things that happened to you]] in [[HorribleHollywood your career]] or [[AbusiveParents when you were a kid]], it's you. Alright? '''''[[TitleDrop It's you.]]''''' ''({{Beat}}, then Todd sighs disheartenly)'' [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]], man. What else is there to say?

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-->'''Todd''': --->'''Todd''': [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech No. No, [=BoJack=], just stop. YOU are all the things that are wrong with you!]] It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or [[DarkAndTroubledPast any the shitty things that happened to you]] in [[HorribleHollywood your career]] or [[AbusiveParents when you were a kid]], it's you. Alright? '''''[[TitleDrop It's you.]]''''' ''({{Beat}}, then Todd sighs disheartenly)'' [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]], man. What else is there to say?



** Another common aesop repeated throughout the series is that sometimes looking for closure is a sucker's game. Whether someone tried to find closure in something, either by trying to mend bridges with friends that were wronged in the past ([[spoiler: Bojack to Herb]]), gain approval from abusive family members (BoJack to Beatrice, Diane to her awful family), or even find closure in a loved one's death ([[spoiler: [=BoJack=] at Herb's funeral]]), it usually made things worse than it already was. As hard as it is to accept, sometimes you're just never going to find closure, and you'll make yourself even more miserable trying to find it than if you learn to live without it. The best thing to do is just move on.

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** Another common aesop repeated throughout the series is that sometimes looking for closure is a sucker's game. Whether someone tried to find closure in something, either by trying to mend bridges with friends that were wronged in the past ([[spoiler: Bojack ([[spoiler:Bojack to Herb]]), gain approval from abusive family members (BoJack ([=BoJack=] to Beatrice, Diane to her awful family), or even find closure in a loved one's death ([[spoiler: [=BoJack=] ([[spoiler:[=BoJack=] at Herb's funeral]]), it usually made things worse than it already was. As hard as it is to accept, sometimes you're just never going to find closure, and you'll make yourself even more miserable trying to find it than if you learn to live without it. The best thing to do is just move on.



-->'''Baby Cakes:''' Who cares why people choose stuff? Maybe DNA, maybe not. Maybe you just want to be someone else for a day. What I mean is -- all right, here's a metaphor. If a guy chooses to marry another guy, he should be able to, right?
-->'''Mayor:''' Well, of course. right.
-->'''Baby Cakes:''' So, I'm 95% of the time a pepperoni guy, but some days I see an anchovy and I want him in my mouth. And it's that freedom of choice that we need to protect, not science. Science is dumb.

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-->'''Baby --->'''Baby Cakes:''' Who cares why people choose stuff? Maybe DNA, maybe not. Maybe you just want to be someone else for a day. What I mean is -- all right, here's a metaphor. If a guy chooses to marry another guy, he should be able to, right?
-->'''Mayor:'''
right?\\
'''Mayor:'''
Well, of course. right.
-->'''Baby
right.\\
'''Baby
Cakes:''' So, I'm 95% of the time a pepperoni guy, but some days I see an anchovy and I want him in my mouth. And it's that freedom of choice that we need to protect, not science. Science is dumb.



-->'''Joe:''' Quagmire, you're talking about murdering a guy. It doesn't matter what he's done, it's still murder.
-->'''Quagmire:''' No, Joe! It ''does'' matter what he's done! These people won't change! Y-You think they suddenly wake up and see the error of their ways and clean up their act?! NO!! They just keep ruining other people's lives, and the world is better off without them!

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-->'''Joe:''' --->'''Joe:''' Quagmire, you're talking about murdering a guy. It doesn't matter what he's done, it's still murder.
-->'''Quagmire:'''
murder.\\
'''Quagmire:'''
No, Joe! It ''does'' matter what he's done! These people won't change! Y-You think they suddenly wake up and see the error of their ways and clean up their act?! NO!! They just keep ruining other people's lives, and the world is better off without them!



-->'''Goliath:''' No! Killing [Demona] won't solve anything! Death never does!\\

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-->'''Goliath:''' ---->'''Goliath:''' No! Killing [Demona] won't solve anything! Death never does!\\



** From "Putting your hoof down", the aesop of "No means no". Given that a ''lot'' of people just assume "No, I'm not interested" to mean "Keep pressing and bugging me more - maybe I'll demonstrate interest", this is a ''VERY'' solid Aesop.

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** From "Putting your hoof down", Your Hoof Down", the aesop of "No means no". Given that a ''lot'' of people just assume "No, I'm not interested" to mean "Keep pressing and bugging me more - maybe I'll demonstrate interest", this is a ''VERY'' solid Aesop.



** Within "Fame and Misfortune", the song 'Flawless' drops a non-subtle anvil but an important one. People are not perfect and they have their flaws. Hating someone for not being perfect is pointless, and real friends accept each other for their flaws.
* Jut like its parent franchise above, ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' has a number of messages worth listening too.

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** *** Within "Fame and Misfortune", the song 'Flawless' drops a non-subtle anvil but an important one. People are not perfect and they have their flaws. Hating someone for not being perfect is pointless, and real friends accept each other for their flaws.
* Jut like its parent franchise above, ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' has a number of messages worth listening too.to as well.
30th Jan '18 10:12:03 PM redandready45
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*** Robert's short fuse ultimately led him to kill an annoying, but ultimately harmless old man.

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*** Robert's short fuse ultimately led him to kill an annoying, but ultimately harmless old man.man, and this only created conflicts for him later down the road.


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** "The Wizard of R. Kelly" and "It's a Black President, Huey Freeman" both take swipes at reverse discrimination. In the former, an obviously guilty pervert is acquitted [[EverythingIsRacist appeals to racism]]. The latter takes shots at people who voted for Obama because of his race, and ignoring his actual flaws.
** Ed Wuncler I is a walking caricature of the abuses of corporate America, and how they are allowed to get away with it.
24th Jan '18 8:33:22 AM JJHIL325
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** Another common aesop repeated throughout the series is that sometimes looking for closure is a sucker's game. Whether someone tried to find closure in something, it's trying to mend bridges with friends you've wronged in the past ([[spoiler: Bojack to Herb]]), gain approval from abusive family members (BoJack to Beatrice, Diane to her awful family), or even find closure in a loved one's death ([[spoiler: BoJack at Herb's funeral]]), it usually made things worse than it already was. As hard as it is to accept, sometimes you're just never going to find closure, and you'll make yourself even more miserable trying to find it than if you learn to live without it. The best thing to do is just move on.

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** Another common aesop repeated throughout the series is that sometimes looking for closure is a sucker's game. Whether someone tried to find closure in something, it's either by trying to mend bridges with friends you've that were wronged in the past ([[spoiler: Bojack to Herb]]), gain approval from abusive family members (BoJack to Beatrice, Diane to her awful family), or even find closure in a loved one's death ([[spoiler: BoJack [=BoJack=] at Herb's funeral]]), it usually made things worse than it already was. As hard as it is to accept, sometimes you're just never going to find closure, and you'll make yourself even more miserable trying to find it than if you learn to live without it. The best thing to do is just move on.



** The infamous "Arnold Betrays Iggy", though hated for being mean-spirited in Arnold's humiliation, does teach an important moral in [[DownerEnding Arnold angrily cutting off all ties with Iggy at the end]]: it's not worth staying friends with someone who is unwilling to forgive their grudge against you, especially if they refuse to hear your side of the story or blame you for something that was ''not'' your fault.

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** The infamous "Arnold Betrays Iggy", though hated for being mean-spirited in Arnold's humiliation, does teach an important moral in [[DownerEnding Arnold angrily cutting off all ties with Iggy at the end]]: it's not worth staying friends with someone who is unwilling to forgive their grudge against you, especially if they refuse to hear your side of the story or and/or blame you for something that was ''not'' your fault.
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