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18th Jul '17 12:26:58 AM Tehrannotaur
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* Franchise/DragonBall:
** No matter how things may change, never forget who you are. Throughout ''Anime/DragonBall'', ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', and ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', Goku stayed true to himself. No matter what foe he was up against, his innocence and pureness never faltered. His love for life, friends and family, strengthened him against whomever he faced. There were times where he could have thrown it all away. It would have been easy to do, but he refused. Goku kept a firm grasp on who he was and refused to let them go. At times in life, it may be easier to change who we are to overcome challenges but if you lose yourself on your road to achieving your goals, have you truly achieved anything at all?
** You can be more than what society or the system expects from you; Goku's overall progression in strength is a great example of that. Goku was born with a power level of just two, which even by Saiyan standards, was disappointing. As a result of this, people who were a part of Freeza's Planet Trade Organisation, and even Goku's own '''father''', considered him an afterthought ''on the day he was born''. Because of his underwhelming power level he was sent to Earth, which was one of the weaker planets in the Galaxy, in order to destroy its inhabitants and clear the planet for its future sale. However, one day Goku fell down a deep ravine and hit his head, suffering severe head trauma that sent him into a coma and very nearly killed him. After he woke up, he had lost all of his Saiyan aggression, becoming a kind and mild-mannered young boy. The rest is history...
** Never forget who you're fighting for. Gokuís victories would not have been possible if it weren't for the love of his family and friends. The strong bonds between the Z fighters drove them to give everything that they had in order to save each other and their loved ones. Their friendship is truly inspirational. There is no stronger friendship than willing to do anything and everything in oneís power to protect the other. You can give nothing more than everything you have to protect your friends and family. In return, their strength becomes your own and the impossible becomes a reality.
** Nothing is more powerful than a group coming together and uniting under one common goal. The power of numbers can be seen anywhere you look in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. This lesson however was mainly inspired by the use of the [[CombinedEnergyAttack Spirit Bomb]] against Kid Buu. While Vegeta was forming his plan, he understood the strength a united group of people would provide. The power he and Goku possessed in comparison to a single person on Earth was far greater, but the combination of each and every individual on the planet was astounding. Each and every person is capable of achieving great things, but when everyone comes together as one in order to succeed, that is true greatness.
** Never be content with what you have and always strive to become better at everything you do. There were a number of times throughout Dragon Ball Z where any single one of the Z fighters could have just said that they gave up because it was too tough or that they didnít feel like it but they didnít. They strived to become stronger, to achieve what their dreams and to protect the ones that they love. If you wish to see perseverance demonstrated in one character in particular, look at Vegeta. He spent the majority of his young life ruled and enslaved. Never did he let that stop him. He continued to train knowing that one day, his opportunity would come and that he would be successful. When Goku ascended to a super Saiyan before him, he did not give up. It motivated him even more to achieve what he believed was his birthright.
** You can't fight fate. Both Bardock's and Freeza's stories exemplify this, both of their stories mirrors many Greek tragedies, incorporating the message that one cannot escape from his own fate or destiny no matter what one does to avoid it or prevent it. [[BlessedWithSuck Despite being given the gift of seeing the future]], [[YouCantFightFate Bardock failed to prevent the destruction of Planet Vegeta and the near extinction of his race.]] This was ''after'' seeing several visions of Planet Vegeta being destroyed and [[CassandraTruth failing to convince other Saiyans that Freeza was going to destroy all of them.]] In Freeza's case, he was in fear of the Legend of the Super Saiyan, so Freeza killed the Saiyans to prevent the legend ever happening, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy inadvertently created the catalyst necessary for a Saiyan to become what he had feared.]] Needless to say, Freeza ended up being defeated by the last known pure blooded Saiyan in existence, Goku, and even though Freeza miraculously survived planet Namek exploding and arrived on Earth ''before'' Goku, [[spoiler: he ended up being [[CurbStompBattle brutally killed]], along with his soldiers and his father King Cold, by another Saiyan, [[KidFromTheFuture Trunks.]]]]
** Never rely on numbers to determine or judge the content of a person's character. The reliance on scouters, a device which measures the ki on any sentient being and then outputs it as a 'combat rating', was more of hindrance to person using the scouter than an actual advantage. Guys like Raditz, Nappa, Zarbon, The Ginyu Force, Cui, Dodoria, hell, pretty much ''everybody'' who worked under Freeza, put way too much stock in the readings that scouters would provide them. Because of this they would often underestimate their opponent's abilities, and their arrogance would naturally come back to bite them in the ass. Vegeta was the only one smart enough to realize that scouters are pretty much useless and impractical in battle and he even [[LampshadeHanging mocked Jeice and Cui for putting too much reliance in them,]] [[CurbStompBattle before he executed them with great ease.]] Probably the most poignant example was when Trunks took on Freeza's soldiers on Earth, his power level was just five when one of Freeza's soldiers took a reading from the scouter and because of this, immediately dismissed Trunks as a threat. Read the spoiler in the second example to know how that fight turned out.
*** It should also be noted that Trunks power reading was last reading officially provided in the history of Dragon Ball, and it's justified when you take into consideration that many of the main cast had gotten so strong that scouters pretty much became redundant in measuring a power level because [[ReadingsAreOffTheScale it would just be way too high for the scouter to even comprehend.]]
*** Similarly, physical appearance is no indicator of a person's true worth. There are countless characters who aren't considered threatening due to their short stature or harmless visage, yet they've all displayed incredible strength. Inversely, plenty of fighters who are huge or menacing are often shown to be deeply insecure when confronted by someone who might be better than themselves.
** Pride comes before a fall. Vegeta gets his ass handed to him so many times for his stubborn pride, you start to wonder if he likes it. Few are the characters who have done more stupid things for the sake of their pride. You'd think he would learn to never underestimate his opponents after being beaten by a low class Saiyan warrior (Goku), his five year old son (Gohan), a bald midget (Krillin) and fat samurai (Yajirobe)... but nope! Vegeta's huge ego and immeasurable pride ''always'' get the best of him, which lead to him getting his ass kicked by Zarbon, Recoome, Freeza, Android 18, Cell and Majin Buu. In Cell's case he '''deliberately''' aided Cell in becoming stronger because his ego wasn't satisfied with how easy the fight was. Let this be a lesson folks, don't be like Vegeta, because it's a case of going one step forward and then ten steps back.
*** Freeza is probably an even more appropriate example. He could have killed Goku at ''any'' point during their battle but decided to drag out the fight because, like Vegeta, his ego wasn't satisfied with how easy the fight had become and he wanted to make Goku suffer more. [[spoiler: His hesitance to finish comes back to bite him as Goku eventually becomes a Super Saiyan and defeats Freeza. And even after that battle and reaching Earth ''before'' Goku, he decides not to just destroy the Earth when he has the chance because his pride wouldn't be satisfied with that, he instead wanted to make everyone on the planet suffer; cue another Saiyan, [[KidFromTheFuture Trunks]], [[CurbStompBattle who makes quick work of Freeza, his father King Cold and Freeza's soldiers]]]]. Frieza's pride and sadism were his greatest weaknesses.
** The secret to success is to be ready for when your opportunity comes. Each person has his or her own belief of why Goku is as successful as he is. Most common of course is natural talent, or the love that he has for his family and friends. Both are true, and both are key factors but in many of the battles that Goku is in he outlasts his opponent. Whether this is because of his endurance, motivation, or something else. He always bides his time until he knows he has a chance for victory. When that opportunity does come, it does not go to waste.
** Without defeat there is no victory. Through ''Dragon Ball Z'', you see nearly every single character get knocked down. Some immediately get back up and face their opponent while others cower. In the end, the struggles that they underwent resulted in them becoming successful. Each time you fall is not for nothing. Only through our failures are we able to become better. Do not look at defeat as something that is permanent; it isnít. It is a minor roadblock on your journey to becoming who you are meant to be.
** Often in life, our closer friends were once our hated enemy. Throughout all of Dragon Ball, the theme of mercy towards those who have wronged us is everywhere. Goku could have finished both Piccolo and Vegeta off, and yet he didnít. Whether this was because of his Saiyan blood and his desire to always become a better warrior by fighting people at their caliber, or if it was because of his pure heart, we will never know. But think about it, do you have those few friends that you started out on the wrong foot with them but now youíre inseparable? I sure can. It kind of makes you want to forget about first impressions all togetherÖ
** For all people talk of Goku's Aesop of "you can surpass any limitation you put your mind to", Vegeta's entire character arc offers a far more realistic and poignant one: there's always going to be someone better than you, no matter how badly you want to be the best or how hard you try, but you shouldn't allow yourself to be consumed by envy. It's only in the late Buu saga when Vegeta accepts that he will never match Goku's power that he becomes at peace with himself.
26th May '17 9:21:00 PM CLT009
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* From the movie: reality is HARD to deal with, doubly so if you've grown up with a rosy, idyllic view of adulthood and ''triply'' hard if you're dealing with a [[DarkAndTroubledPast half-forgotten trauma of some sort]]. Breaking out of that illusion will take everything you have, and relatively few people manage it. But if you really want to be an adult and take control of your life, that's the only way.

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* ** From the movie: reality is HARD to deal with, doubly so if you've grown up with a rosy, idyllic view of adulthood and ''triply'' hard if you're dealing with a [[DarkAndTroubledPast half-forgotten trauma of some sort]]. Breaking out of that illusion will take everything you have, and relatively few people manage it. But if you really want to be an adult and take control of your life, that's the only way.
26th May '17 9:20:08 PM CLT009
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** When you try to project your hopes and ideas onto other people, it just ends with everyone getting hurt. ''Especially'' if you start expecting the other person to live up to those hopes.\

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** When you try to project your hopes and ideas onto other people, it just ends with everyone getting hurt. ''Especially'' if you start expecting the other person to live up to those hopes.\


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* From the movie: reality is HARD to deal with, doubly so if you've grown up with a rosy, idyllic view of adulthood and ''triply'' hard if you're dealing with a [[DarkAndTroubledPast half-forgotten trauma of some sort]]. Breaking out of that illusion will take everything you have, and relatively few people manage it. But if you really want to be an adult and take control of your life, that's the only way.
2nd May '17 11:23:34 AM Daimos
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** In the first volume of the manga of ''Barefoot Gen'', Gen is torn between believing the government sanctioned propaganda being espoused at his school or believing in his Father Daikichi's radical anti-war, anti-governmental views. Ultimately he ends up believing in his father's beliefs and he and his family pay the price for it. Despite it's downer outcome, it shows that groupthink and collectivism isn't a good thing and sometimes being an individual is more important than following what others tell you to believe. In an age where schools and colleges have teachers who force students to believe in what they believe rather than let students find out for themselves about facts, a moral like this ''really'' needs to be dropped, lest the kind of totalitarian rule of schools and governments mix again.
7th Apr '17 9:31:38 AM Willbyr
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* ''ShugoChara'': While it does do the entire "Dreams" aesop much better than most, it has another one that might not count for the "anvil" part of the trope if it were not for the fact that Amu spells it out towards the end ("We are all the main characters of our own stories!"): ''Don't let somebody else decide everything for you''. As said before, it doesn't seem obvious at first, but the afore - mentioned quote, plus some viewing of the characters shows that it definitely ''is'': Ikuto has been following his stepfathers orders for years, although that arguably counteracts it by him blackmailing him with violence towards his mother and sister. [[spoiler: Him being reduced towards essentially nothing more than a slave, tired enough by the physical pain inflicted by his X - Egg - corrupted violin that he's prevented from doing anything other than sleep,(presumably) eat, and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy go Death Rebel/be otherwise brainwashed]], however, definitely ''doesn't''.]] Rima [[spoiler: is essentially treated less as a person and more as a valuable item by her parents, who, until later events, basically forbid her from spending any time outside of her house that doesn't involve school]], Kairi [[spoiler: is forced by his sister into doing [[TheMole actions]] that he really, ''really'' doesn't want to do]], Nadeshiko[[spoiler: /Nagihiko is, via family tradition, made to conceal his actual gender within order to "learn the feminine grace neccessary for the art of traditional Japanese dancing" (Although this is less severe than the other examples because of the fact that Nagihiko actually ''does'' like traditional Japanese dance. It's just the entire "gender hiding" bit that annoys him, partly because he sometimes wonders if it was really neccessary.)]] and, perhaps largest of all, [[spoiler: Gozen himself, A.K.A. Hikaru, eventually was [[BigBad what]] [[EmotionlessBoy he]] [[TheCollector is]] because of his grandfather basically attempted to control his entire life from the moment he was born, even if it was ostensibly for his "happiness".]]
** Also, just because you take one hit, don't just give up then and there. Remember: Everything that does not kill you only makes you stronger, and you learn from correcting your mistakes and recovering throughout everything that harms you. Trying again, despite what has happened within past, as long as you see where you screwed up and decline to do it again, is highly probable to increase the chances of getting it right. This is effective because of the fact that, unlike other [[TastesLikeDiabetes extraordinarily saccharine]] series, which tend to represent humanity within general as a huge [[SugarBowl sugar bowl]] with the only harm that may come to you outside of magical, otherworldly beings being occassional and, indeed, rather minor. H ShugoChara, however, admits that, within everyday life, harmful events happen all the time, be they malicious actions (Ikuto protecting two strangers from whats implied to be attempted rape, and then having the ''shit'' beaten out of him for it, albeit offscreen, [[spoiler: Rima's bacstory having her kidnapped, Utau VS. the ecording and music industry and mostly forgetful general public after leaving Easter,]] ect.) or careless mistakes (''Lots'' of filler characters, [[spoiler:(Kazamu's son, daughter-in-law, and wife dying in a car accident, although, admittedly, that one [[BigBad didn't turn]] [[{{Tykebomb}} out]] [[EmotionlessBoy too well]]... [[HeelFaceTurn Until it does.]]]], but ''like hell'' does it give them an excuse to give up, and, honestly, ''nothing'' does.

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* ''ShugoChara'': ''Manga/ShugoChara'': While it does do the entire "Dreams" aesop much better than most, it has another one that might not count for the "anvil" part of the trope if it were not for the fact that Amu spells it out towards the end ("We are all the main characters of our own stories!"): ''Don't let somebody else decide everything for you''. As said before, it doesn't seem obvious at first, but the afore - mentioned quote, plus some viewing of the characters shows that it definitely ''is'': Ikuto has been following his stepfathers orders for years, although that arguably counteracts it by him blackmailing him with violence towards his mother and sister. [[spoiler: Him being reduced towards essentially nothing more than a slave, tired enough by the physical pain inflicted by his X - Egg - corrupted violin that he's prevented from doing anything other than sleep,(presumably) eat, and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy go Death Rebel/be otherwise brainwashed]], however, definitely ''doesn't''.]] Rima [[spoiler: is essentially treated less as a person and more as a valuable item by her parents, who, until later events, basically forbid her from spending any time outside of her house that doesn't involve school]], Kairi [[spoiler: is forced by his sister into doing [[TheMole actions]] that he really, ''really'' doesn't want to do]], Nadeshiko[[spoiler: /Nagihiko is, via family tradition, made to conceal his actual gender within order to "learn the feminine grace neccessary for the art of traditional Japanese dancing" (Although this is less severe than the other examples because of the fact that Nagihiko actually ''does'' like traditional Japanese dance. It's just the entire "gender hiding" bit that annoys him, partly because he sometimes wonders if it was really neccessary.)]] and, perhaps largest of all, [[spoiler: Gozen himself, A.K.A. Hikaru, eventually was [[BigBad what]] [[EmotionlessBoy he]] [[TheCollector is]] because of his grandfather basically attempted to control his entire life from the moment he was born, even if it was ostensibly for his "happiness".]]
** Also, just because you take one hit, don't just give up then and there. Remember: Everything that does not kill you only makes you stronger, and you learn from correcting your mistakes and recovering throughout everything that harms you. Trying again, despite what has happened within past, as long as you see where you screwed up and decline to do it again, is highly probable to increase the chances of getting it right. This is effective because of the fact that, unlike other [[TastesLikeDiabetes extraordinarily saccharine]] series, which tend to represent humanity within general as a huge [[SugarBowl sugar bowl]] with the only harm that may come to you outside of magical, otherworldly beings being occassional and, indeed, rather minor. H ShugoChara, ''Shugo Chara'', however, admits that, within everyday life, harmful events happen all the time, be they malicious actions (Ikuto protecting two strangers from whats implied to be attempted rape, and then having the ''shit'' beaten out of him for it, albeit offscreen, [[spoiler: Rima's bacstory having her kidnapped, Utau VS. the ecording and music industry and mostly forgetful general public after leaving Easter,]] ect.) or careless mistakes (''Lots'' of filler characters, [[spoiler:(Kazamu's son, daughter-in-law, and wife dying in a car accident, although, admittedly, that one [[BigBad didn't turn]] [[{{Tykebomb}} out]] [[EmotionlessBoy too well]]... [[HeelFaceTurn Until it does.]]]], but ''like hell'' does it give them an excuse to give up, and, honestly, ''nothing'' does.
14th Feb '17 8:45:14 PM SweetFirefly
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** The law doesn't protect people, people protect the law. The law is not the system and it's not the provisions of the system. The law is the accumulation of everyone's wishes for a better society. And the worst thing you can do to these laws that should be sacred is to create a law that is unworthy of protection.
11th Jan '17 11:47:17 AM CLT009
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** Sex '''''IS''''' power. People will try to [[SlutShaming shame you]] for using it, but as with most forms of power, it's only as evil (or good) as its user.
11th Jan '17 11:41:02 AM CLT009
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** When you try to project your hopes and ideas onto other people, it just ends with everyone getting hurt. ''Especially'' if you start expecting the other person to live up to those hopes.

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** When you try to project your hopes and ideas onto other people, it just ends with everyone getting hurt. ''Especially'' if you start expecting the other person to live up to those hopes.\
** No one can save someone else from a destructive situation, be it self-inflicted or an abusive relationship. That person must first ''want'' to be saved, and to choose to save themselves; until then, the best that anyone else can really do is offer support and encouragement. Sometimes, that works; [[spoiler: Utena's ActOfTrueLove doesn't save Anthy, but it ''does'' help her find the strength to save herself at last]]. Other times it doesn't; [[spoiler: [[no matter how much Anthy [[AllTakeAndNoGive plays along]], Akio [[MoralEventHorizon is a lost cause]] and Anthy rightly decides to leave him behind]].
*** Victims are people. They do not just [[TheLittlestCancerPatient exist for you to pity]], [[{{Moe}} adore]] or [[DamselInDistress rescue]]; they have their own needs, emotions and personalities independent what you think they should want. People in pain may [[JerkassWoobie lash out in their grief]] ([[UngratefulBastard including at the people trying to help them]]), and may [[ManipulativeBastard try to pull you under even as you try to help them]].
** Be careful that your HeroicSacrifice doesn't teach the would-be beneficiary that they can always leave someone else to pay for their crimes.
** Pinning your self-image or self-worth on someone else is a fantastic way to make yourself (and others) ''miserable''. [[LivingEmotionalCrutch There]] [[LoveMartyr are]] [[IJustWantToBeYou many ways]] [[CantCatchUp to fall]] [[LikeAGodToMe for this]] [[ICanChangeMyBeloved trap]], but all of them end in misery because that person probably just as imperfect as you are in other ways and [[BeneathTheMask may even be hiding a VERY dark side]].
18th Dec '16 10:01:28 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Ryuko alone struggled the most. Dealing the idea of being a sex object; being consumed by the vengeance for her father; discovering her origins; and finally being taken in by the thought of being a "normal girl". Each of her lowest moments happened until she's reminded of ''who'' she is: '''''[[{{Badass}} Ryuko]] [[ActionGirl Mother]][[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[{{Determinator}} Matoi.]]'''''

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*** Ryuko alone struggled the most. Dealing the idea of being a sex object; being consumed by the vengeance for her father; discovering her origins; and finally being taken in by the thought of being a "normal girl". Each of her lowest moments happened until she's reminded of ''who'' she is: '''''[[{{Badass}} Ryuko]] [[ActionGirl Mother]][[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[{{Determinator}} '''''Ryuko Motherfucking Matoi.]]''''''''''
14th Dec '16 2:07:37 PM bwburke94
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* For all its [[WidgetSeries absurdity and insanity]], one thing that ''[[{{Shimoneta}} A Boring World Where the Concept of Dirty Jokes Doesn't Exist]]'' gets right is that censorship and thought crime, especially such as extreme within the series, is [[{{Understatement}} bad]].

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* For all its [[WidgetSeries absurdity and insanity]], one thing that ''[[{{Shimoneta}} A Boring World Where the Concept of Dirty Jokes Doesn't Exist]]'' gets right is that censorship and thought crime, especially such as extreme within the series, is [[{{Understatement}} bad]].''very'' bad.
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