History SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped / AnimeAndManga

4th Apr '18 8:15:56 AM Scarab
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** One of the central themes of Yu-Gi-Oh besides this is, oddly, death. People die (even in the dub) and ''the dead have to stay dead''. The ending drops a big one by killing off one of the two main leads. It never hides from the fact good people die; it's not fair or just and it can't be changed with [[ItMakesSenseInContext a magic marker smiley face drawn on your hand]], but it's the way things are. This wouldn't have been half as powerful if we hadn't been hit with the friendship anvil so heavily throughout the series, or we hadn't viewed death and the threat of it in the show so many times, and on so many levels.
26th Feb '18 1:04:19 PM AustinDR
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* ''Manga/{{Citrus}}'': Sex shouldn't make up the entirety of a relationship. Even though it's made blatantly apparent that Yuzu wishes to have sex with her stepsister, Yuzu firmly believes that it shouldn't be the basis of a relationship with Mei.
10th Feb '18 8:51:03 PM LordYAM
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'': Even an outcast can find a home.

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'': Even an outcast can find a home. A deeper one is that Japan needs to own up to it's war crimes in the Second World War (Zeon is explicitly modeled after Imperial Japan)



** ''Anime/DigimonFrontier'' actually dropped a pretty good one with Duskmon. It is not a given that EvilWillFail. Assuming that you can win a fight just because you're on the "good" side is suicidal recklessness.

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** ''Anime/DigimonFrontier'' actually dropped a pretty good one with Duskmon. It is not a given that EvilWillFail. Assuming that you can win a fight just because you're on the "good" side is suicidal recklessness. Takuya is also forced to face the fact that he can't run from his mistakes; part of being a leader is accepting responsibility when things go wrong.
7th Dec '17 12:52:25 PM Manw0name
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** Also from ''Rebellion'': {{Fix Fic}}s are childish fantasies only written by people who can't accept the darker parts of reality. As such, they are [[WasItReallyWorthIt completely hollow]].

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** Also from ''Rebellion'': Regarding {{Fix Fic}}s are childish fantasies only written by people who can't accept Fic}}'s. Trying to change reality to be the darker parts of reality. As such, they are [[WasItReallyWorthIt completely hollow]].way you want can have consequences you aren't prepared for.
1st Nov '17 9:10:57 PM Gamermaster
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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' has one really good anvil that it keeps dropping consistently: it doesn't matter what someone's background is, it doesn't matter how they were born, it doesn't matter where they came from, it doesn't matter what they're fighting for, and hell, it doesn't even matter if they're not technically classifiable as human. Everyone is a ''person'', with just as much potential to be good as anyone else, and no matter what else, they deserve to be treated with compassion and love. And [[DefeatMeansFriendship firepower]].

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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' has one really good anvil that it keeps dropping consistently: it doesn't matter what someone's background is, it doesn't matter how they were born, it doesn't matter where they came from, it doesn't matter what they're fighting for, and hell, it doesn't even matter if they're not technically classifiable as human. Everyone is a ''person'', with just as much potential to be good as anyone else, and no matter what else, they deserve to be treated with compassion and love. And [[DefeatMeansFriendship firepower]].
22nd Sep '17 2:39:35 PM JJHIL325
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* ''Manga/KoiKaze'': In RealLife, falling in love with your [[BrotherSisterIncest brother or sister]] is not something that anybody wishes to happen to them, and whoever tries to [[BreakUpDemand break up]] a sibling couple may sincerely want to prevent them from getting hurt. Even if both siblings accepted each other's feelings they would first have to deal with severe feelings of shame or depression and the fact that they could never get married, have their own children, or tell anyone about their relationship. Even so, if the couple were to accept these burdens and responsibilities in order to stay together, they might stand a chance of [[EarnYourHappyEnding making their own happiness]].

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* ''Manga/KoiKaze'': In RealLife, falling in love with your [[BrotherSisterIncest brother or sister]] is not something that anybody wishes to happen to them, and whoever tries to [[BreakUpDemand break up]] a sibling couple may sincerely want to prevent them from getting hurt.hurt (either by their own feelings or bigots attacking them). Even if both siblings accepted each other's feelings they would first have to deal with severe feelings of shame or depression and the fact that they could never get married, have their own children, or tell anyone about their relationship. Even so, if the couple were to accept these burdens and responsibilities in order to stay together, they might stand a chance of [[EarnYourHappyEnding making their own happiness]].
21st Sep '17 2:23:57 PM lilyofthevalley
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** Happens quite often with Natsu.
*** Much of Natsu's fight with Gildarts in the S-Class exam was a big anvil drop on his tendency to Leeroy it up. Considering that Gildarts had just come back from fighting the black dragon, it was probably also dropped the anvil that if Natsu couldn't beat Gildarts on his own, he has no chance against the black dragon.
*** [[spoiler:A later extension to keep Natsu from reaching GodModeSue status comes along when Future Rogue [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomps]] him in their first fight to the point of Ultear having to save his life from Future Rogue's shadow magic. A skirmish that takes place only a day after Natsu's last battle where he utterly embarrassed Sabertooth's Sting and Rogue in a two-on-one fight in which he didn't even have to resort to using his Lightning Fire abilities.]]
*** Tartaros member Silver [[OneHitKill one-hit-KOing]] Natsu with his ice-magic when the later decided to go LeeroyJenkins on the Tartaros hideout. This coming moments after people started making claims that Natsu had officially obtained GodModeSue status.
** Basically what happened to Laxus at the start of the Tartaros arc; being taken out nearly right away. Some believed this occurred due to his character showing glimpses of GodModeSue as the Grand Magic Games moved along, and that this incident brought him back down to normal level.

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** Happens quite often with Natsu.
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Much of Natsu's fight with Gildarts in the S-Class exam was a big anvil drop on his tendency to Leeroy {{Leeroy|Jenkins}} it up. Considering that Gildarts had just come back from fighting the black dragon, it was probably also dropped the anvil that if Natsu couldn't beat Gildarts on his own, he has no chance against the black dragon.
*** [[spoiler:A later extension to keep Natsu from reaching GodModeSue status comes along when Future Rogue [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomps]] him in their first fight to the point of Ultear having to save his life from Future Rogue's shadow magic. A skirmish that takes place only a day after Natsu's last battle where he utterly embarrassed Sabertooth's Sting and Rogue in a two-on-one fight in which he didn't even have to resort to using his Lightning Fire abilities.]]
*** Tartaros member Silver [[OneHitKill one-hit-KOing]] Natsu with his ice-magic when the later decided to go LeeroyJenkins on the Tartaros hideout. This coming moments after people started making claims that Natsu had officially obtained GodModeSue status.
** Basically what happened to Laxus at the start of the Tartaros arc; being taken out nearly right away. Some believed this occurred due to his character showing glimpses of GodModeSue as the Grand Magic Games moved along, and that this incident brought him back down to normal level.
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20th Sep '17 8:11:44 PM Filosera
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** Another message resulted from [[spoiler:Kamina's death]]. Never disregard people suffering from traumatic experiences or losses, simply believing they should get over it on their own, even if you're at war. Some of Team Gurren tried to help Simon, but failed due to not knowing what to do or so on. By episode 11, they no longer showed any sympathy and felt that he should either get over it or return home, with the only people having faith in him being [[TheReliableOne Rossiu]], the twins Gimmy and Darry and mroe subtly, Leeron. Ultimately though, it's Nia, the new girl that didn't even know [[spoiler:Kamina]] who speaks with him, helping him through his grief and realizing that he needs to be himself.

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** Another message resulted from [[spoiler:Kamina's death]]. Never disregard people suffering from traumatic experiences or losses, simply believing they should get over it on their own, even if you're at war. Some of Team Gurren tried to help Simon, but failed due to not knowing what to do or so on. By episode 11, they no longer showed any sympathy and felt that he should either get over it or return home, with the only people having faith in him being [[TheReliableOne Rossiu]], the twins Gimmy and Darry and mroe more subtly, Leeron. Ultimately though, it's Nia, the new girl that didn't even know [[spoiler:Kamina]] who speaks with him, helping him through his grief and realizing that he needs to be himself.
2nd Aug '17 9:10:16 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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** Handicapped people aren't freaks, even if they're different from you, they're still ''people'' just like you.
28th Jul '17 8:12:22 PM immblueversion
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** The end of the Tower of Heaven arc emphasizes that just because a HeroicSacrifice saves your friends' lives doesn't mean that they're going to be happy to be alive at your expense.

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** The end of the Tower of Heaven arc emphasizes that just because a HeroicSacrifice saves your friends' lives lives, that doesn't mean that they're going to be happy to be alive at your expense.



*** Much of Natsu's fight with Gildarts in the S-Class Exam was a big anvil drop on his tendency to Leeroy it up. Considering that Gildarts had just come back from fighting the black dragon, it was probably also dropped the anvil that if Natsu couldn't beat Gildarts on his own, he has no chance against the black dragon.

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*** Much of Natsu's fight with Gildarts in the S-Class Exam exam was a big anvil drop on his tendency to Leeroy it up. Considering that Gildarts had just come back from fighting the black dragon, it was probably also dropped the anvil that if Natsu couldn't beat Gildarts on his own, he has no chance against the black dragon.



*** Tartarus member, Silver, [[OneHitKill 1HKOing]] Natsu with his ice-magic when the later decided to go LeeroyJenkins on the Tartarus hide-out. This coming moments after people started making claims that Natsu had officially obtained GodModeSue status.
** Basically what happened to Laxus at the start of the ''Tartarus'' arc; being taken out nearly right away. Some believed this occurred due to his character showing glimpses of GodModeSue as the Grand Magic Games moved along, and that this incident brought him back down to normal level.

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*** Tartarus member, Silver, Tartaros member Silver [[OneHitKill 1HKOing]] one-hit-KOing]] Natsu with his ice-magic when the later decided to go LeeroyJenkins on the Tartarus hide-out.Tartaros hideout. This coming moments after people started making claims that Natsu had officially obtained GodModeSue status.
** Basically what happened to Laxus at the start of the ''Tartarus'' Tartaros arc; being taken out nearly right away. Some believed this occurred due to his character showing glimpses of GodModeSue as the Grand Magic Games moved along, and that this incident brought him back down to normal level.



* Anime/KillLaKill wouldn't be a proper product of [[Creator/StudioTrigger the creators]] of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' if it didn't carry powerful messages.

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* Anime/KillLaKill ''Anime/KillLaKill'' wouldn't be a proper product of [[Creator/StudioTrigger the creators]] of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' if it didn't carry powerful messages.



** Above all else, Anime/KillLaKill's greatest message was the one that was repeated throughout the whole series: '''''[[AwesomeMusic/KillLaKill DON'T LOSE YOUR WAY!]]''''' Throughout the series, everyone's greatest struggles happened when they lose sight of ''who'' they are and only thought about ''what'' they are:

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** Above all else, Anime/KillLaKill's ''Anime/KillLaKill'''s greatest message was the one that was repeated throughout the whole series: '''''[[AwesomeMusic/KillLaKill DON'T LOSE YOUR WAY!]]''''' Throughout the series, everyone's greatest struggles happened when they lose sight of ''who'' they are and only thought about ''what'' they are:
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