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28th Jun '16 1:53:18 PM TomoeMichieru
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** For all people talk of Goku's Aesop of "you can surpass any limitation you put your mind to", Vegeta's entire character arc offers a far more realistic and poignant one: there's always going to be someone better than you, no matter how badly you want to be the best or how hard you try, but you shouldn't allow yourself to be consumed by envy. It's only in the late Buu saga when Vegeta accepts that he will never match Goku's power that he becomes at peace with himself.
27th Jun '16 9:26:45 AM ShorinBJ
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** You can't fight fate. Both Bardock's and Freeza's stories exemplify this, both of their stories mirrors many Greek tragedies, incorporating the message that one cannot escape from his own fate or destiny no matter what one does to avoid it or prevent it. [[BlessedWithSuck Despite being given the gift of seeing the future]], [[YouCantFightFate Bardock failed to prevent the destruction of Planet Vegeta and the near extinction of his race.]] This was ''after'' seeing several visions of Planet Vegeta being destroyed and [[CassandraTruth failing to convince other Saiyans that Freeza was going to destroy all of them.]] In Freeza's case, he was in fear of the Legend of the Super Saiyan, so Freeza killed the Saiyans to prevent the legend ever happening, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy inadvertently created the catalyst necessary for a Saiyan to become what he had feared.]] Needless to say, Freeza ended up being defeated by the last known pure blooded Saiyan in existence, Goku, and even though Freeza miraculously survived planet Namek exploding and arrived on Earth ''before'' Goku, [[spoiler: he ended up being [[CurbStompBattle brutally killed]], along with his soldiers and his father King Cold, by another Saiyan [[KidFromTheFuture Trunks.]]]]

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** You can't fight fate. Both Bardock's and Freeza's stories exemplify this, both of their stories mirrors many Greek tragedies, incorporating the message that one cannot escape from his own fate or destiny no matter what one does to avoid it or prevent it. [[BlessedWithSuck Despite being given the gift of seeing the future]], [[YouCantFightFate Bardock failed to prevent the destruction of Planet Vegeta and the near extinction of his race.]] This was ''after'' seeing several visions of Planet Vegeta being destroyed and [[CassandraTruth failing to convince other Saiyans that Freeza was going to destroy all of them.]] In Freeza's case, he was in fear of the Legend of the Super Saiyan, so Freeza killed the Saiyans to prevent the legend ever happening, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy inadvertently created the catalyst necessary for a Saiyan to become what he had feared.]] Needless to say, Freeza ended up being defeated by the last known pure blooded Saiyan in existence, Goku, and even though Freeza miraculously survived planet Namek exploding and arrived on Earth ''before'' Goku, [[spoiler: he ended up being [[CurbStompBattle brutally killed]], along with his soldiers and his father King Cold, by another Saiyan Saiyan, [[KidFromTheFuture Trunks.]]]]
24th Jun '16 6:05:09 PM DVB
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** Another message resulted from [[spoiler:Kamina's death]]. Never disregard people suffering from traumatic experiences or losses, simply believing they should get over it on their own, even if you're at war. Some of Team Gurren tried to help Simon, but failed. By episode 11, they no longer showed any sympathy and felt that he should either get over it or return home. It's Nia, the new girl that didn't even know [[spoiler:Kamina]] who speaks with him and helps him feel that he isn't crazy, and finally recover from it.

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** Another message resulted from [[spoiler:Kamina's death]]. Never disregard people suffering from traumatic experiences or losses, simply believing they should get over it on their own, even if you're at war. Some of Team Gurren tried to help Simon, but failed. failed due to not knowing what to do or so on. By episode 11, they no longer showed any sympathy and felt that he should either get over it or return home. It's home, with the only people having faith in him being [[TheReliableOne Rossiu]], the twins Gimmy and Darry and mroe subtly, Leeron. Ultimately though, it's Nia, the new girl that didn't even know [[spoiler:Kamina]] who speaks with him, helping him through his grief and helps him feel realizing that he isn't crazy, and finally recover from it.needs to be himself.
17th May '16 6:20:35 PM FierceArtist
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** No matter how horrible things seem, it can never be too much to ask for help from your friends and allies. Itachi, a villain who was posthumously revealed as a HeroWithAnFInGood, more-or-less says to the titular character, saying not following will make him no different from the BigBad. He is also likely talking from experience, seeing that [[spoiler:after his zombification]], he learned that every contingency plan that he made failed miserably.
28th Apr '16 3:55:01 PM nombretomado
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* ''Manga/{{Cyborg009}}'': War is, at ''best'', a NecessaryEvil. The villains may sound about as subtle as CaptainPlanet antagonists in their goals to prolong war for money, but the focus on the effects war has on the individual civilian shows just how devastating and pointless it is. The manga also argues that bigotry over one's nationality or ethnicity is pointless, as the heroic characters all judge each other as humans:

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* ''Manga/{{Cyborg009}}'': War is, at ''best'', a NecessaryEvil. The villains may sound about as subtle as CaptainPlanet WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}} antagonists in their goals to prolong war for money, but the focus on the effects war has on the individual civilian shows just how devastating and pointless it is. The manga also argues that bigotry over one's nationality or ethnicity is pointless, as the heroic characters all judge each other as humans:
23rd Apr '16 1:31:07 PM comicwriter
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** The manga's ending basically says that no matter how bad life gets, it can get better. [[spoiler: And no matter how fucked up and beyond hope life may seem, you ''can'' fix things]].
23rd Apr '16 12:41:50 PM comicwriter
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* Likewise, the ending of ''Anime/ZetaGundam'' could be seen as arguing that even though war is terrible, there are some people who are so twisted and evil that violence is the only way to stop them from committing even worse atrocities.
23rd Apr '16 12:36:40 PM comicwriter
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* Creator/OsamuTezuka's ''Manga/{{MW}}'' has an entire chapter late in the series' run about how homosexuality is neither wrong nor shameful. Notably, this {{Aesop}] is delivered by a sympathetic lesbian character, in contrast to the two gay/bisexual leads, both of whom are ''profoundly'' screwed up individuals.

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* Creator/OsamuTezuka's ''Manga/{{MW}}'' has an entire chapter late in the series' run about how homosexuality is neither wrong nor shameful. shameful, a stance that was fairly radical in 1970's Japan. Notably, this {{Aesop}] {{Aesop}} is delivered by a sympathetic lesbian character, in contrast to the two gay/bisexual leads, both of whom are ''profoundly'' screwed up individuals.
23rd Apr '16 12:34:29 PM comicwriter
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* Creator/OsamuTezuka's ''Manga/{{MW}}'' has an entire chapter late in the series' run about how homosexuality is neither wrong nor shameful. Notably, this {{Aesop}] is delivered by a sympathetic lesbian character, in contrast to the two gay/bisexual leads, both of whom are ''profoundly'' screwed up individuals.
2nd Apr '16 2:20:30 AM Mr.Bubbles
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** Also, make sure you know what kind of situations you're getting yourself into. Doing something just because it sounds cool and exciting could be a mistake that either kills you or damages you for life.
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