History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / FanWorks

11th Jul '17 11:37:21 AM Giantleviathan
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* Despite being [[NightmareFuel/PonyPOVSeries MUCH]] [[TearJerker/PonyPOVSeries darker]] than it's [[Franchise/MyLittlePony source material]], the FanFic/PonyPOVSeries is ''firmly'' on the side of idealism. It practically RUNS on it. It is [[WorldHalfFull a setting where even the greatest of tragedies can be overcome]], where anyone can [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn their happy ending]], where the Gods (Even the [[EldritchAbomination scary ones]]) truly CARE about mortals, and where mortals can ascend to the level of the Gods by their deeds. Where every loss, no matter how horrifying or tragic, is a precursor to a greater triumph.
** Nowhere is this shown better than in it's sixth season, Dark World. Which is all about taking a relentlessly grimdark CrapsackWorld of a BadFuture, and giving it a truly happy ending.
10th Jun '17 10:41:07 AM Iceaura39
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*''Story/AesirCrossWars'', while having serious moments (especially the Bonus Chapters), is generally on the Idealistic side. The world is more positive than one would expect than what is expected of Norse Mythology. TheHero is an IdealHero with a strong belief that RosseauWasRight. Many things are PlayedForLaughs, and for a world based off ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'', the Dark Pit character ends up being more like Axel from ''VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories''.
19th Jan '17 1:24:46 PM Willbyr
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* ''TheEmiyaClan'' is all over the place on this one, probably due to the different authors that make up the community and the many different stories and crossovers being written. Some stories, focusing on harem antics, family comedy, or the power of friendship are idealistic. Others, focusing on the more traditional {{Nasuverse}} angles, wars, and the criminal underworld, are extremely cynical.

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* ''TheEmiyaClan'' is all over the place on this one, probably due to the different authors that make up the community and the many different stories and crossovers being written. Some stories, focusing on harem antics, family comedy, or the power of friendship are idealistic. Others, focusing on the more traditional {{Nasuverse}} Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} angles, wars, and the criminal underworld, are extremely cynical.
6th Jan '17 3:51:12 PM MiddleEighth
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* On the other hand, ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' starts off with them being cynical and quickly sends them far down the scale, to the point where they decide that the so-called good Pyar gods and the White Tower are almost as evil as the Black Tower they're supposed to bring down. They aren't happy that they're being forced to support evil, but as John puts it, it would be a problem on Earth, but who cares what happens on C'hou?
** Yet they firmly cling to their idealistic belief that violence is wrong and manage to stick to it.

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* ** On the other hand, ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' starts off with them being cynical and quickly sends them far down the scale, to the point where they decide that the so-called good Pyar gods and the White Tower are almost as evil as the Black Tower they're supposed to bring down. They aren't happy that they're being forced to support evil, but as John puts it, it would be a problem on Earth, but who cares what happens on C'hou?
** *** Yet they firmly cling to their idealistic belief that violence is wrong and manage to stick to it.
6th Jan '17 3:50:26 PM MiddleEighth
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*On the other hand, ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' starts off with them being cynical and quickly sends them far down the scale, to the point where they decide that the so-called good Pyar gods and the White Tower are almost as evil as the Black Tower they're supposed to bring down. They aren't happy that they're being forced to support evil, but as John puts it, it would be a problem on Earth, but who cares what happens on C'hou?
**Yet they firmly cling to their idealistic belief that violence is wrong and manage to stick to it.
18th Jul '16 6:03:53 AM WiseMan23753
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** Whereas in ''Fanfic/LyricalNanoha'', the TSAB utopia becomes shattered over the emerge of an international terrorist organization that appears under their nose and declares to the world that YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. They kill Mages easily, practice LoopholeAbuse and PragmaticVillainy to avoid TSAB persecution, and deep corruption burrowed into the police force. Plus, the NonAlienInterferenceClause keep the heroines from helping the Japanese suffering under Britannian rule and [[spoiler:former friends are bent on revenge against them.]]

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** Whereas in ''Fanfic/LyricalNanoha'', the TSAB utopia becomes shattered over the emerge of an international terrorist organization that appears under their nose and declares to the world that YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. They kill Mages easily, practice LoopholeAbuse and PragmaticVillainy to avoid TSAB persecution, and deep corruption burrowed into the police force. Plus, the NonAlienInterferenceClause AlienNonInterferenceClause keep the heroines from helping the Japanese suffering under Britannian rule and [[spoiler:former friends are bent on revenge against them.]]
18th Jul '16 6:03:32 AM WiseMan23753
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** Whereas in ''Fanfic/LyricalNanoha'', the TSAB utopia becomes shattered over the emerge of an international terrorist organization that appears under their nose and declares to the world that YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. They kill Mages easily, practice LoopholeAbuse and PragmaticVillainy to avoid TSAB persecution, and deep corruption burrowed into the police force. Plus, the NonAliennInterferenceClause keep the heroines from helping the Japanese suffering under Britannian rule and [[spoiler:former friends are bent on revenge against them.]]

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** Whereas in ''Fanfic/LyricalNanoha'', the TSAB utopia becomes shattered over the emerge of an international terrorist organization that appears under their nose and declares to the world that YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. They kill Mages easily, practice LoopholeAbuse and PragmaticVillainy to avoid TSAB persecution, and deep corruption burrowed into the police force. Plus, the NonAliennInterferenceClause NonAlienInterferenceClause keep the heroines from helping the Japanese suffering under Britannian rule and [[spoiler:former friends are bent on revenge against them.]]
18th Jul '16 6:03:12 AM WiseMan23753
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* ''Anime/KingsOfRevolution'' shows what happens when the cynical world of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' and the idealist world of ''Franchice/LyricalNanoha'' blend. [[GameChanger Their perspectives swtich.]]
** To start with ''Code Geass'', the supposedly DiabolicalMastermind wields a much friendlier power and has allies he can trust. And speaking of trust, he has become more stable and honest with himself, reinforcing his ties with the Black Knights. HE overall makes a lot more gains towards liberating Japan and suffers far less losses.
** Whereas in ''Fanfic/LyricalNanoha'', the TSAB utopia becomes shattered over the emerge of an international terrorist organization that appears under their nose and declares to the world that YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. They kill Mages easily, practice LoopholeAbuse and PragmaticVillainy to avoid TSAB persecution, and deep corruption burrowed into the police force. Plus, the NonAliennInterferenceClause keep the heroines from helping the Japanese suffering under Britannian rule and [[spoiler:former friends are bent on revenge against them.]]
20th May '16 9:59:07 AM Tron80
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* ''Fanfic/NeonGenesisEvangelionGenocide'' sits comfortably in the middle of the scale. The story is dark but hopeful, and although bad things happen, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.
13th Dec '15 7:00:20 AM Loekman3
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** ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10105890/1/Ember-Alias Ember Alias]]''

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** ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10105890/1/Ember-Alias Ember Alias]]''Alias]]'' however, is firmly on the cynical end of the scale, far darker than most Flinn fan fictions you will typically see (Second only to ''Purpose''). Basically it deals with a lot more darker and cynical Finn, whom in his attempts to escape from his heartbreak from "The Red Throne", turns into a hero who prefers to help the needs of other people over his own doused heart and employs a disguise into a Fire Elemental in order to aid Flame Princess and Cinnamon Bun against the Olympians. However, this ultimate lie delivers heaps of negative consequences towards both Finn and everyone else, from suspicion that "Fenrir" murdered Finn, to potential wars and alienation from his former friends as a result of his altered identity.
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