History ShootTheShaggyDog / VideoGames

6th Jun '17 11:38:45 AM Nintendoman01
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* [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum''. At two points in the game you have to save [[spoiler:Dr. Young, getting a NonStandardGameOver if you fail. After you save her the second time she dies ''about a minute later anyway'' falling for a trap left by the Joker. That being said, you DO end up stopping the Joker afterwards, so at least there's that.]]

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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'':
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[[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum''. At two points in the game you have to save [[spoiler:Dr. Young, getting a NonStandardGameOver if you fail. After you save her the second time she dies ''about a minute later anyway'' falling for a trap left by the Joker. That being said, you DO end up stopping the Joker afterwards, so at least there's that.]]
** In ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', the Joker has a moment that almost perfectly fits this trope, but he's an antagonist instead of a protagonist. [[spoiler:Despite all his plans to save himself from dying of Titan poisoning, he comes extremely close to manipulating Batman to bring him the cure. In fact, Batman has the cure and Joker is in the very same room as him [[BackstabBackfire when Joker stabs Batman in the shoulder, making him drop the cure and dooming Joker, who would have lived if he could have seen that Batman would never intentionally let him die]].]]
** Joker's character arc in the first two games could qualify. His plan to tear down Gotham with Titan enhanced inmates is stopped by Batman; if the ending of Asylum is anything to go by, the Titan would've worn off in less than an hour anyway, so his goons probably wouldn't have reached Gotham in time to do any serious damage. Even if he killed Batman, Joker and his gang would've been rounded up once they turned back to normal and be arrested, thrown into Arkham City, and killed in Protocol 10 (although Catwoman's NonStandardGameOver instead puts forth the idea that he and his goons would have survived the protocol and overthrown Strange). In ''City'', his plan to poison Gotham is thwarted, he ultimately didn't leave any offspring behind as seen in ''Harley Quinn's Revenge'', and he dies.
** Batman gets a perfect moment in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight''. [[spoiler:He spends a significant amount of time and resources trying to find a way to cure [[CloneByConversion the Joker infected]], even [[LockedOutOfTheLoop deliberately keeping Robin in the dark about Barbara's kidnapping and eventual death to ensure he'll focus on finding the cure]]. Then it turns out that Henry Adams, who Batman hoped would be the key to finding said cure, was [[EvilAllAlong faking his immunity]] the whole time, killing the other infected and then himself when he sees Batman himself is infected. The Joker hallucination that haunts Batman throughout the game takes great delight in rubbing in Batman's face about how he forced Robin to work on a nonexistent cure rather than be an effective ally in the field.
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2nd Jun '17 10:10:06 AM AlienPatch
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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum''. At two points in the game you have to save [[spoiler:Dr. Young, getting a NonStandardGameOver if you fail. After you save her the second time she dies ''about a minute later anyway'' falling for a trap left by the Joker.]]

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* Played straight [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum''. At two points in the game you have to save [[spoiler:Dr. Young, getting a NonStandardGameOver if you fail. After you save her the second time she dies ''about a minute later anyway'' falling for a trap left by the Joker. That being said, you DO end up stopping the Joker afterwards, so at least there's that.]]



* ''VideoGame/BioShock'' had an AlternateRealityGame for [[VideoGame/BioShock2 the sequel]] called 'Something in the Sea' who's main character became well-liked enough to be placed in the game. Many a fan cheered when they saw Mark Meltzer's first audio diary in the game recording his heroic efforts to rescue his kidnapped daughter. [[spoiler: Not so much cheering at hearing his last...since you take it off his corpse...after YOU kill him personally...with his daughter a few feet away from his body. Because he had been turned into a Big Daddy by Sofia Lamb.]]

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* ''VideoGame/BioShock'' had an AlternateRealityGame for [[VideoGame/BioShock2 the sequel]] called 'Something in the Sea' who's whose main character became well-liked enough to be placed in the game. Many a fan cheered when they saw Mark Meltzer's first audio diary in the game recording his heroic efforts to rescue his kidnapped daughter. [[spoiler: Not so much cheering at hearing his last...since you take it off his corpse...after YOU kill him personally...with his daughter a few feet away from his body. Because he had been turned into a Big Daddy by Sofia Lamb.]]
29th May '17 9:19:59 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/PeasantsQuest'' (a video game spin-off from WebAnimation/HomestarRunner and parody of old {{Sierra}} games) -- The goal is to gather up everything needed to be allowed to go fight the dragon, Trogdor, and then get past the traps guarding the gate to his lair. If you fail, of course, you die. If you succeed... [[spoiler: Trogdor tells you how impressed he is that you got this far, and then burnininates you because, of course, silly peasant, you can't defeat a DRAGON! Fortunately, you get a statue in your honor, so it's not ''completely'' pointless...]]

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* ''VideoGame/PeasantsQuest'' (a video game spin-off from WebAnimation/HomestarRunner and parody of old {{Sierra}} Creator/{{Sierra}} games) -- The goal is to gather up everything needed to be allowed to go fight the dragon, Trogdor, and then get past the traps guarding the gate to his lair. If you fail, of course, you die. If you succeed... [[spoiler: Trogdor tells you how impressed he is that you got this far, and then burnininates you because, of course, silly peasant, you can't defeat a DRAGON! Fortunately, you get a statue in your honor, so it's not ''completely'' pointless...]]
21st May '17 11:02:32 AM Steven
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** The "Kill Michael" ending in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' is done in a tragic way. Michael, who led a life of crime and heists that tore his family apart, is finally turning his life around by reconciling with his family and his daughter got accepted into college. This is all thrown out the window when Franklin kills Michael in order to save his own skin from Merryweather.
20th May '17 10:04:16 AM nombretomado
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* The entire ''{{Ultima}}'' series can be considered this, if you take the events of UltimaIX as canon (which many fans don't). The Guardian, an interdimensional conqueror and your nemesis, is revealed to have been created from the Stranger's rejected evils as he/she underwent the Quest of the Avatar, meaning that countless worlds would have been spared if the quest had never been undertaken, and in the end you have to sacrifice yourself to finally defeat the Guardian. Also, Lord British admits that the quest itself failed in its purpose - the idea was that the Avatar would be a paragon inspiring others to lead virtuous lives, but instead the Avatar became a legend only appearing when some great evil was afoot, leaving people to lead their ordinary, petty lives since the Avatar wasn't someone they could relate to.

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* The entire ''{{Ultima}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}'' series can be considered this, if you take the events of UltimaIX as canon (which many fans don't). The Guardian, an interdimensional conqueror and your nemesis, is revealed to have been created from the Stranger's rejected evils as he/she underwent the Quest of the Avatar, meaning that countless worlds would have been spared if the quest had never been undertaken, and in the end you have to sacrifice yourself to finally defeat the Guardian. Also, Lord British admits that the quest itself failed in its purpose - the idea was that the Avatar would be a paragon inspiring others to lead virtuous lives, but instead the Avatar became a legend only appearing when some great evil was afoot, leaving people to lead their ordinary, petty lives since the Avatar wasn't someone they could relate to.
16th May '17 7:31:08 PM nombretomado
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* The ending of the Hierarchy Campaign in ''UniverseAtWar''. Orlok is betrayed and killed, his rebellion accomplishing absolutely nothing except getting the Masari prince captured -- even the major characters he apparently killed during his campaign turn up alive and well when it switches over to the Masari.

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* The ending of the Hierarchy Campaign in ''UniverseAtWar''.''VideoGame/UniverseAtWar''. Orlok is betrayed and killed, his rebellion accomplishing absolutely nothing except getting the Masari prince captured -- even the major characters he apparently killed during his campaign turn up alive and well when it switches over to the Masari.
16th May '17 6:08:23 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''TwistedMetal'' series, competitors fight in a massive demolition derby with missiles, blowing up opposing cars, monuments, and cities with abandon. The prize? A wish granted by competition organizer Calypso, who wavers between LiteralGenie and JackassGenie. It rarely ends well, though occasionally someone ''will'' wise up and turn down the wish.

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* In the ''TwistedMetal'' ''VideoGame/TwistedMetal'' series, competitors fight in a massive demolition derby with missiles, blowing up opposing cars, monuments, and cities with abandon. The prize? A wish granted by competition organizer Calypso, who wavers between LiteralGenie and JackassGenie. It rarely ends well, though occasionally someone ''will'' wise up and turn down the wish.
22nd Apr '17 2:23:00 PM nombretomado
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* ''SuikodenTierkreis'' doesn't ''require'' the death of this particular Dog, but it certainly tries to bait the player into it. All but two {{Dialogue Tree}}s in the game end with you [[ButThouMust taking the same path you would anyway]], one repeats endlessly until you make the right choices . . . and one [[spoiler:lets you determine whether or not to CombinedEnergyAttack the BigBad, risking the lives of those who participate in the attack, with a "yes" answer being the default option, and a "no" answer being a declaration that there must be some other way to defeat him, with no indication you're doing anything more than denying what's necessary. Choose "no," and you'll later discover that he made the same choice against a similar foe, and every single one of the participants except him died. He was warped and twisted into becoming the villain he is now, and if you choose "yes," you'll [[HereWeGoAgain follow in his footsteps]], over the bodies of a hundred and seven of your allies (all of whom have previously been given names and personalities, and many of whom have had side quests centering on them!)]]

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* ''SuikodenTierkreis'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenTierkreis'' doesn't ''require'' the death of this particular Dog, but it certainly tries to bait the player into it. All but two {{Dialogue Tree}}s in the game end with you [[ButThouMust taking the same path you would anyway]], one repeats endlessly until you make the right choices . . . and one [[spoiler:lets you determine whether or not to CombinedEnergyAttack the BigBad, risking the lives of those who participate in the attack, with a "yes" answer being the default option, and a "no" answer being a declaration that there must be some other way to defeat him, with no indication you're doing anything more than denying what's necessary. Choose "no," and you'll later discover that he made the same choice against a similar foe, and every single one of the participants except him died. He was warped and twisted into becoming the villain he is now, and if you choose "yes," you'll [[HereWeGoAgain follow in his footsteps]], over the bodies of a hundred and seven of your allies (all of whom have previously been given names and personalities, and many of whom have had side quests centering on them!)]]



* In stark contrast to the rest of the {{Suikoden}} series' normal endings, the normal ending for Suikoden 2 ends with Riou losing everything he ever cared for (his hometown, his sister and his best friend, the latter ''by his own hand''), all his victories rendered hollow, and forced into a position he never asked for nor wanted as a figurehead ruler. The game ends with the not so subtle implication that Riou becomes a broken, bitter man whose status will likely be taken advantage of by ambitious advisers and generals...after all, what point was there to stop Luca and the Beast Rune, if in the end you become far worse off than you were before?

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* In stark contrast to the rest of the {{Suikoden}} ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' series' normal endings, the normal ending for Suikoden 2 ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' ends with Riou losing everything he ever cared for (his hometown, his sister and his best friend, the latter ''by his own hand''), all his victories rendered hollow, and forced into a position he never asked for nor wanted as a figurehead ruler. The game ends with the not so subtle implication that Riou becomes a broken, bitter man whose status will likely be taken advantage of by ambitious advisers and generals...after all, what point was there to stop Luca and the Beast Rune, if in the end you become far worse off than you were before?
21st Apr '17 9:52:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/MichiganReportFromHell'' has MultipleEndings, but all of them end [[spoiler:with the cameraman getting killed before he can reveal who's behind everything]]. The only thing your actions really determine is [[spoiler:his identity and his reaction to the hell you've been through]]. On top of this, if you've been [[VideogameCrueltyPotential nothing but cruel]] [[KarmaMeter the whole time]], in the end [[spoiler:he claims to be the one responsible for the whole mess, and transforms into a monster]]. Thanks, {{Suda 51}}.

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* ''VideoGame/MichiganReportFromHell'' has MultipleEndings, but all of them end [[spoiler:with the cameraman getting killed before he can reveal who's behind everything]]. The only thing your actions really determine is [[spoiler:his identity and his reaction to the hell you've been through]]. On top of this, if you've been [[VideogameCrueltyPotential nothing but cruel]] [[KarmaMeter the whole time]], in the end [[spoiler:he claims to be the one responsible for the whole mess, and transforms into a monster]]. Thanks, {{Suda 51}}.Creator/Suda51.
7th Apr '17 11:35:26 AM Windkreek
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** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] with the release of the ''Whistleblower'' [=DLC=]. [[spoiler: The player now controls Waylon Park, the man who originally sent the warning e-Mail to Mike Upshur that made him go to the asylum. Waylon's events begin several hours before Mike arrives at the asylum, but ultimately end up happening simultaneously. Waylon runs away from the insane habitants of the asylum, was labelled a traitor by the company that hired him, got beaten up and tortures, [[GroinAttack and almost got his nether-regions mutilated]], but ultimately manages to get outside of the asylum and heads into Mike Upshur's car. Mike Upshur, now the new host of the Walrider, begins to stumble towards Waylon and the Walrider practically pushed the car through the gate blocking Waylon's road to freedom. Waylon manages to leave the asylum in a rather decently state and has his own, unbroken camera with a lot of incriminating evidence against the company. His story ends with him uploading the evidence to the internet, ready to destroy Murkoff and putting himself and his loved ones in danger of being killed.]]

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** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] with the release of the ''Whistleblower'' [=DLC=]. [[spoiler: The player now controls Waylon Park, the man who originally sent the warning e-Mail to Mike Miles Upshur that made him go to the asylum. Waylon's events begin several hours before Mike Miles arrives at the asylum, but ultimately end up happening simultaneously. Waylon runs away from the insane habitants of the asylum, was labelled a traitor by the company that hired him, got beaten up and tortures, tortured, [[GroinAttack and almost got his nether-regions mutilated]], but ultimately manages to get outside of the asylum and heads into Mike Miles Upshur's car. Mike Miles Upshur, now the new host of the Walrider, begins to stumble towards Waylon and the Walrider practically pushed the car through the gate blocking Waylon's road to freedom. Waylon manages to leave the asylum in a rather decently state and has his own, unbroken camera with a lot of incriminating evidence against the company. His story ends with him uploading the evidence to the internet, ready to destroy Murkoff and putting himself and his loved ones in danger of being killed.]]
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