History ShipToShipCombat / LiveActionTV

13th Apr '16 1:56:56 PM Tropetastic1995
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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' generally has a fairly mellow group of shippers, with Oliver/Felicity and Oliver/[[spoiler: Sara]] shippers generally cool with each other and united in their dislike of the Oliver/Laurel pairing. That being said, smaller segments of all groups (with the pro-Felicity and anti-Laurel contingent in the lead) can get rather nasty at times.

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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' generally has a fairly mellow group of shippers, with Oliver/Felicity and Oliver/[[spoiler: Sara]] shippers generally cool with each other and united in their dislike of the Oliver/Laurel pairing. That being said, smaller segments of all groups (with the pro-Felicity and anti-Laurel contingent in the lead) can get rather nasty at times. Eventually, the Felicity/Oliver pairing got so popular that it was made canon in Season 3. By Season 4, however, "Olicity" had largerly fallen out of favour because of how poorly it was handled: Because of all the relationship drama Felicity had lost the {{Adorkable}} nature that made her so popular in the first place while Oliver became increasingly more of a DesignatedHero. Laurel, by contrast, got RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap for a large part of the fanbase, meaning their ship gained a small following again, that only kept growing as Laurel became the CoolBigSis of the group while Felicity and Oliver only went through more relationship drama.[[spoiler: After Laurel was killed off to fulfill the "who's in the grave"-arc, a large part of the fanbase vocally wished that it had been Felicity instead.]]
19th Mar '16 7:35:38 AM Hossmeister
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19th Mar '16 2:28:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* Things got a bit hairy within the fandom of ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' once the John / Cameron ship's popularity became more prevailant. Some fans found the idea of John Connor, the man who smashed Skynet being a {{Robosexual}} to be inherently [[{{Squick}} squicky]]. Detractors would latch on to whatever alternatives they could find, as long as they weren't [[FantasticSlurs metal]]. First it was John/[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Cheri]], then it was John/[[TheMole Riley]], finally John/[[MySiblingWillLiveThroughMe Allison]] before the series was [[CliffHanger abruptly canceled]]. You even had some who clung to the idea that [[CanonForeigner Kate Brewster]] would eventually show up and re-establish [[{{Terminator}} Terminator 3's]] OfficialCouple, despite the fact that in TSCC's contnuity John would be a bit young for her (due to TimeTravel).

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* Things got a bit hairy within the fandom of ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' once the John / Cameron ship's popularity became more prevailant. Some fans found the idea of John Connor, the man who smashed Skynet being a {{Robosexual}} to be inherently [[{{Squick}} squicky]]. Detractors would latch on to whatever alternatives they could find, as long as they weren't [[FantasticSlurs metal]]. First it was John/[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Cheri]], then it was John/[[TheMole Riley]], finally John/[[MySiblingWillLiveThroughMe Allison]] before the series was [[CliffHanger abruptly canceled]]. You even had some who clung to the idea that [[CanonForeigner Kate Brewster]] would eventually show up and re-establish [[{{Terminator}} Terminator 3's]] ''Film/{{Terminator 3|RiseOfTheMachines}}'''s OfficialCouple, despite the fact that in TSCC's contnuity John would be a bit young for her (due to TimeTravel).
19th Mar '16 2:27:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* Things got a bit hairy within the fandom of ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'' once the John / Cameron ship's popularity became more prevailant. Some fans found the idea of John Connor, the man who smashed Skynet being a {{Robosexual}} to be inherently [[{{Squick}} squicky]]. Detractors would latch on to whatever alternatives they could find, as long as they weren't [[FantasticSlurs metal]]. First it was John/[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Cheri]], then it was John/[[TheMole Riley]], finally John/[[MySiblingWillLiveThroughMe Allison]] before the series was [[CliffHanger abruptly canceled]]. You even had some who clung to the idea that [[CanonForeigner Kate Brewster]] would eventually show up and re-establish [[{{Terminator}} Terminator 3's]] OfficialCouple, despite the fact that in TSCC's contnuity John would be a bit young for her (due to TimeTravel).

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* Things got a bit hairy within the fandom of ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'' ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' once the John / Cameron ship's popularity became more prevailant. Some fans found the idea of John Connor, the man who smashed Skynet being a {{Robosexual}} to be inherently [[{{Squick}} squicky]]. Detractors would latch on to whatever alternatives they could find, as long as they weren't [[FantasticSlurs metal]]. First it was John/[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Cheri]], then it was John/[[TheMole Riley]], finally John/[[MySiblingWillLiveThroughMe Allison]] before the series was [[CliffHanger abruptly canceled]]. You even had some who clung to the idea that [[CanonForeigner Kate Brewster]] would eventually show up and re-establish [[{{Terminator}} Terminator 3's]] OfficialCouple, despite the fact that in TSCC's contnuity John would be a bit young for her (due to TimeTravel).
23rd Feb '16 11:40:27 PM Watermist
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** And yet, the two camps appear to forget that the producers of the television show ''and'' the writer of the novel have had gone on record, ''multiple times'', that the show and book are two totally different matters. What is canon in one isn't in the other.

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** And yet, the [[FanDumb two camps appear to forget ignore]] that the producers of the television show ''and'' the writer of the novel have had gone on record, ''multiple times'', that the show and book are two totally different matters. What is canon in one isn't in the other.other.
** The shippers have now dragged the writers into their shipping war, even including sending ''threats'' to the writers.
23rd Feb '16 11:38:50 PM Watermist
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* Things are getting ''real'' ugly between the Bellarke shippers and Clexa shippers in the ''Series/The100'' fandom. Bellamy/Clarke is the canon ship in the novel, but Clarke/Lexa is the canon ship in the television show. To add even more to this mess, Clarke and Lexa are both girls. This means the opponents (usually "Bellarkers") gets accursed of homophobia.

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* Things are getting ''real'' ugly between the Bellarke shippers and Clexa shippers in the ''Series/The100'' ''Series/{{The100}}'' fandom. Bellamy/Clarke is the canon ship in the novel, but Clarke/Lexa is the canon ship in the television show. To add even more to this mess, Clarke and Lexa are both girls. This means the opponents (usually "Bellarkers") gets accursed of homophobia.
23rd Feb '16 11:38:29 PM Watermist
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* Things got really ugly really quickly on shipper front when it comes to Series/SleepyHollow, and haven't gotten any better by the third season. Ichabod/Abbie shippers don't want to even hear the word 'platonic', and if you dare to bring up Katrina, or any other woman in Ichabod's life (past ''or'' present)...

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* Things got really ugly really quickly on shipper front when it comes to Series/SleepyHollow, and haven't gotten any better by the third season. Ichabod/Abbie shippers don't want to even hear the word 'platonic', and if you dare to bring up Katrina, or any other woman in Ichabod's life (past ''or'' present)...present)...
* Things are getting ''real'' ugly between the Bellarke shippers and Clexa shippers in the ''Series/The100'' fandom. Bellamy/Clarke is the canon ship in the novel, but Clarke/Lexa is the canon ship in the television show. To add even more to this mess, Clarke and Lexa are both girls. This means the opponents (usually "Bellarkers") gets accursed of homophobia.
** And yet, the two camps appear to forget that the producers of the television show ''and'' the writer of the novel have had gone on record, ''multiple times'', that the show and book are two totally different matters. What is canon in one isn't in the other.
1st Jan '16 6:44:21 PM nombretomado
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** The various shipper groups in the {{Smallville}} fandom have also been known to fight in proxy wars on behalf of ships that serve as ShipMates to their own OneTruePairing. For instance, Clois shippers were often allies with the Chimmy shippers from Seasons 6 through 8 because it kept Chloe away from Clark, so it felt right to support Chimmy (the Chimmy shippers didn't always reciprocate the good will though. Some Chloe supporters shipped Chimmy merely because they felt that Clark--the future ''{{Superman}}''--didn't "deserve" the supposedly-saintly Chloe). Similarly, some Chlark shippers supported Lollie because it got Lois away from Clark.

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** The various shipper groups in the {{Smallville}} ''Smallville'' fandom have also been known to fight in proxy wars on behalf of ships that serve as ShipMates to their own OneTruePairing. For instance, Clois shippers were often allies with the Chimmy shippers from Seasons 6 through 8 because it kept Chloe away from Clark, so it felt right to support Chimmy (the Chimmy shippers didn't always reciprocate the good will though. Some Chloe supporters shipped Chimmy merely because they felt that Clark--the future ''{{Superman}}''--didn't "deserve" the supposedly-saintly Chloe). Similarly, some Chlark shippers supported Lollie because it got Lois away from Clark.
29th Nov '15 5:31:21 AM BroadwayPhil
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* ''Series/{{Xena|the Warrior Princess}}'' had some incredibly intense shipping wars between Xena/Gabrielle and Xena/Ares due to its spillover into real-world issues of LGBT rights and representation. In a time when there was virtually no positive LGBT representation on television, the implied relationship between Xena and Gabrielle was all that viewers had. Picking up on this, the writers and actors played up the subtext. Xena/Ares and other shippers denounced this as PanderingToTheBase. Xena/Gabrielle shippers, or "Subbers" often interpreted this as homophobia.

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* ''Series/{{Xena|the Warrior Princess}}'' ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' had some incredibly intense shipping wars between Xena/Gabrielle and Xena/Ares due to its spillover into real-world issues of LGBT rights and representation. In a time when there was virtually no positive LGBT representation on television, the implied relationship between Xena and Gabrielle was all that viewers had. Picking up on this, the writers and actors played up the subtext. Xena/Ares and other shippers denounced this as PanderingToTheBase. Xena/Gabrielle shippers, or "Subbers" often interpreted this as homophobia.homophobia.
** And it was even worse with Gabrielle/Joxer shippers, as subbers not only hated the ship but hated comedic characters like Joxer. A particular target of wrath was the Gabrielle and Joxer Romantics Society, which not only supported the 'ship but encouraged fan fiction for it. At least one fan was publically harassed at a convention for wearing a GJRS T-shirt. One prominent reviewer declared that not only would G/J stories (or in fact any story shipping Xena or Gabrielle with anyone except the other) not be reviewed but if asked about G/J stories the reviewer would not reply, in order to avoid promoting Joxer.
18th Oct '15 12:10:49 PM unserpokal
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* The spinoff ''[[{{Series/TheFlash2014}} The Flash]]'' is not so lucky. The [[ForegoneConclusion Barry/Iris]] (Westallen) and [[DoomedByCanon Barry/Caitlin]] (Snowbarry) factions have waged terrible war against each other before the show even began. To hear it from the Westallen shippers, Barry's "personal physician" Caitlin is a StalkerWithACrush with a completely one-sided obsession with Barry who gets intensely jealous when he goes to meet Iris and is going to become [[{{Yandere}} insane and evil]] when [[IfICantHaveYou she loses him to Iris]] (the last part of which has some basis seeing that in the comics [[spoiler:she turns into Killer Frost]].) Alternatively, because they are DoomedByCanon anyway, Caitlin can only get hurt from this and she deserves better than being Barry's second choice, with some not liking the RomancingTheWidow thing. On the other hand, the Snowbarry shippers complain that Barry/Iris is [[{{Series/Smallville}} Clark/Lana]] all [[RomanticPlotTumor over again]], with Barry making his moves even when she was happy with Eddie, with the {{Squick}} factor of them living together as siblings since they were kids. On the less amicable side of things, shipping Barry with anyone other than Iris may result in accusations of [[EverythingIsRacist racism]] and sometimes even [[InsaneTrollLogic misogyny]].
** Joining the fray is Caitlin/Ronnie (Snowstorm), previously OfficialCouple, current and future status uncertain. Barry/Felicity (Baricity) had a spike at "Going Rogue" which shows them kissing but the episode ends confirming they are both still obsessed with Iris and Oliver respectively. "Going Rogue" also seems to have spawned [[LesYay Caitlin/Felicity]] (Caitlicity, or as some might refer to it, [[ShoutOut Science]] [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Sisters]]), although time will tell [[TheGadfly how serious this group is.]]
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