History Series / SeventeenMomentsOfSpring

21st Apr '16 1:25:07 PM Berrenta
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* BabiesEverAfter: The SS deserter who saved Kat's child escapes together with Kat after his heroic act. They've taken his own baby from orphanage ('cause his own mom is dead because of the bombing) and, pretending to be the married couple, try to find the rescue. Than, oops, he gets himself killed, and Kat has to somehow manage in the hostile Berlin with two babies on her hands. [[ItGetsBetter Everything ends well.]]

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* BabiesEverAfter: The SS deserter who saved Kat's child escapes together with Kat after his heroic act. They've taken his own baby from orphanage ('cause his own mom is dead because of the bombing) and, pretending to be the married couple, try to find the rescue. Than, oops, he gets himself killed, and Kat has to somehow manage in the hostile Berlin with two babies on her hands. [[ItGetsBetter Everything ends well.]]
20th Mar '16 4:17:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* GenreSavvy: Kaltenbrunner notices that Stirlitz has a perfect record despite everything he is involved with ending ultimately in Nazi failure, whilst at the same time supposedly maintaining a firm belief in Final Victory, even in private. This just makes him suspicious, and he details Mueller to investigate.
20th Mar '16 3:12:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* MoscowCenter: Back then they were called the NKVD, not the KGB, but they were still the Center, and they send Stirlitz messages.
12th Sep '15 5:40:38 PM Berrenta
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* [[AmericaWinsTheWar The USSR Wins The War]]: Despite the historical context - both in-universe and out - this is largely and refreshingly averted. Schellenberg and Himmler are seen watching a United News newsreel (in English) displaying the victories of the Western Allies, and the Yalta conference is also covered. On the other hand, the plot revolves around the duplicity of said Western Allies in [[spoiler: negotiating with Himmler...]]
** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sunrise_(World_War_II) Said plot is not entirely fictional either]], although the Soviets (arguably) [[ThisIsUnforgivable blew it out of proportion]].
** Isolated instances are still present, such as "in 1942 the Soviet Air Force shattered the myth of ''Luftwaffe'' invincibility", which was presumably news to [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships the RAF]], who had won the Battle of Britain two years previously.
*** This is likely in reference to the (also very large) Eastern Front air war, to which the the Royal Air Force contributed ''[[NoodleIncident exactly once]]'', and could hardly be blamed for being otherwise engaged; [[GaulsWithGrenades Free France's Normandie-Niemen Regiment]] on the other hand deserves mentioning, but the Soviets can technically lay the claim to that unit being a Soviet-run EagleSquadron (currently there are duplicate Normandy-Niemen regiments in France and Russia).

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%% * [[AmericaWinsTheWar The USSR Wins The War]]: Despite the historical context - both in-universe and out - this is largely and refreshingly averted. Schellenberg and Himmler are seen watching a United News newsreel (in English) displaying the victories of the Western Allies, and the Yalta conference is also covered. On the other hand, the plot revolves around the duplicity of said Western Allies in [[spoiler: negotiating with Himmler...]]
%% ** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sunrise_(World_War_II) Said plot is not entirely fictional either]], although the Soviets (arguably) [[ThisIsUnforgivable blew it out of proportion]].
%% ** Isolated instances are still present, such as "in 1942 the Soviet Air Force shattered the myth of ''Luftwaffe'' invincibility", which was presumably news to [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships the RAF]], who had won the Battle of Britain two years previously.
%% *** This is likely in reference to the (also very large) Eastern Front air war, to which the the Royal Air Force contributed ''[[NoodleIncident exactly once]]'', and could hardly be blamed for being otherwise engaged; [[GaulsWithGrenades Free France's Normandie-Niemen Regiment]] on the other hand deserves mentioning, but the Soviets can technically lay the claim to that unit being a Soviet-run EagleSquadron (currently there are duplicate Normandy-Niemen regiments in France and Russia).
10th Aug '15 5:32:23 AM DDE
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*** This is likely in reference to the (also very large) Eastern Front air war, to which the the Royal Air Force contributed [[NoodleIncident ''exactly once'']], and could hardly be blamed for being otherwise engaged; [[GaulsWithGrenades Free France's Normandie-Niemen Regiment]] on the other hand deserves mentioning, but the Soviets can technically lay the claim to that unit being a Soviet-run EagleSquadron (currently there are duplicate Normandy-Niemen regiments in France and Russia).

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*** This is likely in reference to the (also very large) Eastern Front air war, to which the the Royal Air Force contributed [[NoodleIncident ''exactly once'']], ''[[NoodleIncident exactly once]]'', and could hardly be blamed for being otherwise engaged; [[GaulsWithGrenades Free France's Normandie-Niemen Regiment]] on the other hand deserves mentioning, but the Soviets can technically lay the claim to that unit being a Soviet-run EagleSquadron (currently there are duplicate Normandy-Niemen regiments in France and Russia).



** The Soviet CulturePolice ''insisted'' on the newsreel-like inserts, because they wanted to avoid [[SpotlightStealingSquad the impression that Stirlitz alone won the war]].



* TranslationConvention: Most characters speak Russian; but the meetings with [[UsefulNotes/AdolphHitler Hitler]] are in German overdubbed by Russian, as per course for Soviet cinema.

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* TranslationConvention: Most characters speak Russian; but the meetings with [[UsefulNotes/AdolphHitler [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] are in German overdubbed by Russian, as per course for Soviet cinema.
10th Aug '15 5:28:21 AM DDE
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sunrise_(World_War_II) Said plot is not entirely fictional either]], although the Soviets (arguably) [[ThisIsUnforgivable blew it out of proportion]].



*** This is likely in reference to the (also very large) Eastern Front air war, to which the the Royal Air Force did not contribute, and could hardly be blamed for being previously occupied (though [[GaulsWithGrenades Free France's Normandie-Niemen Regiment]] on the other hand, deserves mentioning...)

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*** This is likely in reference to the (also very large) Eastern Front air war, to which the the Royal Air Force did not contribute, contributed [[NoodleIncident ''exactly once'']], and could hardly be blamed for being previously occupied (though otherwise engaged; [[GaulsWithGrenades Free France's Normandie-Niemen Regiment]] on the other hand, hand deserves mentioning...)mentioning, but the Soviets can technically lay the claim to that unit being a Soviet-run EagleSquadron (currently there are duplicate Normandy-Niemen regiments in France and Russia).



* TranslationConvention: Everyone speaks Russian.

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* TranslationConvention: Everyone speaks Russian.Most characters speak Russian; but the meetings with [[UsefulNotes/AdolphHitler Hitler]] are in German overdubbed by Russian, as per course for Soviet cinema.
12th Mar '15 9:12:57 PM jormis29
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There is also a prequel series, set in the RedOctober era. [[{{Sequelitis}} Avoid it]].

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There is also a prequel series, set in the RedOctober UsefulNotes/RedOctober era. [[{{Sequelitis}} Avoid it]].
6th Nov '14 9:23:02 AM kundoo
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* MoscowCenter: Back then they were called the NKGB, not the KGB, but they were still the Center, and they send Stirlitz messages.

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* MoscowCenter: Back then they were called the NKGB, NKVD, not the KGB, but they were still the Center, and they send Stirlitz messages.
22nd Jul '14 4:05:55 PM Achaemenid
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* GuileHero: Stirlitz only directly kills a single person in the entire series. It's not that he's afraid of fighting - he's a trained Center officer, after all - but he knows his mission is to gather intelligence and that, if he had to start gunning down mooks, he'd have failed.
22nd Jul '14 4:15:04 AM Achaemenid
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* EvilVirtues: The Nazis are shown to have some sense of personal loyalty and even decency towards each other.

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* EvilVirtues: The Nazis are shown to have some sense of personal loyalty and even decency towards each other.other, despite being monsters.
* GenreSavvy: Kaltenbrunner notices that Stirlitz has a perfect record despite everything he is involved with ending ultimately in Nazi failure, whilst at the same time supposedly maintaining a firm belief in Final Victory, even in private. This just makes him suspicious, and he details Mueller to investigate.
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