History Series / Crusade

7th May '17 11:13:39 AM Redmess
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** There are also plentiful (and deliberate) ShoutOuts to Arthurian myth. Aside from the ship being ''Excalibur'', Gideon and Galen are very much Arthur and Merlin.

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** There are also plentiful (and deliberate) ShoutOuts to Arthurian myth. Aside from the ship being ''Excalibur'', Gideon and Galen are very much Arthur and Merlin. Also, one unproduced episode involved finding a mystical sword, presumably the one seen in the intro.
7th May '17 11:06:44 AM Redmess
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** However, when comparing with the main Babylon 5 series, in particular its season 4 finale, it is clear that saving Earth was a ForegoneConclusion after all.
7th May '17 10:57:57 AM Redmess
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* AllMythsAreTrue: Back on 6th Century Earth, Owain Ddantgwyn adopted the battle name of Arthur and united the Kingdoms of Gwynedd and Powys. He was ultimately slain at the Battle of Camlann. Very few records of these events survive yet Franklin says there's enough evidence to believe there's a real person behind these "Arthurian Legends". One such legend states that Arthur and his sword Excalibur would one day return to Earth in its greatest hour of need. The script seems to be hinting that Gideon is a reincarnation of Arthur, with Galen as his Merlin.

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* AllMythsAreTrue: Back on 6th Century Earth, Owain Ddantgwyn adopted the battle name of Arthur and united the Kingdoms of Gwynedd and Powys. He was ultimately slain at the Battle of Camlann. Very few records of these events survive yet Franklin says there's enough evidence to believe there's a real person behind these "Arthurian Legends". One such legend states that Arthur and his sword Excalibur would one day return to Earth in its greatest hour of need. The script seems to be hinting that Gideon is a reincarnation of Arthur, with Galen as his Merlin.Merlin, and one (unfilmed) episode refers to a mystical sword being found, most likely the one seen in the intro sequence.
7th May '17 10:54:44 AM Redmess
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* AliensStealCable: In the episode ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLI4OocZHVQ Visitors From Down the Street]]'' (an {{Homage}} to ''Series/TheXFiles''), the crew of the ''Excalibur'' picks up two agents from an alien world who are looking for proof of a government cover-up. They show pictures of Mount Rushmore and old Earth blimps. They also dress in Earth fashions from 200 years go (ie: from the time period at the time of the show's shoot.) One of them can ''[[AliensSpeakingEnglish speak English]]'' because of information stolen from the conspirators. TheReveal: Years before, the government had found itself in a time of social unrest similar to TheSixties. Upon discovering Earth broadcasts, they used them as part of a truly [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] conspiracy; manufacture appropriate "evidence", then dispatch TheMenInBlack to suppress it. The resultant subculture of {{Conspiracy Theorist}}s absorbed the government's critics and kept them wasting their time [[AgentMulder chasing "aliens"]] rather than [[LaResistance engaging in civil disobedience.]] ''[[NoDelaysForTheWicked Every crime the government committed afterward was thus blamed on "Outsiders" who secretly manipulated their civilization, permitting them to do as they pleased.]]'' The main government agent upholding the conspiracy credits and thanks the Humans for cigarettes as he smoked one in victory (FridgeLogic don't ask where he gets the tobacco from). Captain Gideon ordered probes loaded with the Interstellar Encyclopedia and sent to the alien world to crack the cover-up.

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* AliensStealCable: In the episode ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLI4OocZHVQ Visitors From Down the Street]]'' (an {{Homage}} to ''Series/TheXFiles''), the crew of the ''Excalibur'' picks up two agents from an alien world who are looking for proof of a government cover-up. They show pictures of Mount Rushmore and old Earth blimps. They also dress in Earth fashions from 200 years go (ie: from the time period at the time of the show's shoot.) One of them can ''[[AliensSpeakingEnglish speak English]]'' because of information stolen from the conspirators. TheReveal: Years before, the government had found itself in a time of social unrest similar to TheSixties. Upon discovering Earth broadcasts, they used them as part of a truly [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] conspiracy; manufacture appropriate "evidence", then dispatch TheMenInBlack to suppress it. The resultant subculture of {{Conspiracy Theorist}}s absorbed the government's critics and kept them wasting their time [[AgentMulder chasing "aliens"]] rather than [[LaResistance engaging in civil disobedience.]] ''[[NoDelaysForTheWicked Every crime the government committed afterward was thus blamed on "Outsiders" who secretly manipulated their civilization, permitting them to do as they pleased.]]'' The main government agent upholding the conspiracy credits and thanks the Humans for cigarettes as he smoked one in victory (FridgeLogic ([[FridgeLogic don't ask where he gets the tobacco from).from]]). Captain Gideon ordered probes loaded with the Interstellar Encyclopedia and sent to the alien world to crack the cover-up.
7th May '17 10:54:19 AM Redmess
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* AliensStealCable: In the episode ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLI4OocZHVQ Visitors From Down the Street]]'' (an {{Homage}} to ''Series/TheXFiles''), the crew of the ''Excalibur'' picks up two agents from an alien world who are looking for proof of a government cover-up. They show pictures of Mount Rushmore and old Earth blimps. They also dress in Earth fashions from 200 years go (ie: from the time period at the time of the show's shoot.) One of them can ''[[AliensSpeakingEnglish speak English]]'' because of information stolen from the conspirators. TheReveal: Years before, the government had found itself in a time of social unrest similar to TheSixties. Upon discovering Earth broadcasts, they used them as part of a truly [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] conspiracy; manufacture appropriate "evidence", then dispatch TheMenInBlack to suppress it. The resultant subculture of {{Conspiracy Theorist}}s absorbed the government's critics and kept them wasting their time [[AgentMulder chasing "aliens"]] rather than [[LaResistance engaging in civil disobedience.]] ''[[NoDelaysForTheWicked Every crime the government committed afterward was thus blamed on "Outsiders" who secretly manipulated their civilization, permitting them to do as they pleased.]]'' The main government agent upholding the conspiracy credits and thanks the Humans for cigarettes as he smoked one in victory. Captain Gideon ordered probes loaded with the Interstellar Encyclopedia and sent to the alien world to crack the cover-up.

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* AliensStealCable: In the episode ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLI4OocZHVQ Visitors From Down the Street]]'' (an {{Homage}} to ''Series/TheXFiles''), the crew of the ''Excalibur'' picks up two agents from an alien world who are looking for proof of a government cover-up. They show pictures of Mount Rushmore and old Earth blimps. They also dress in Earth fashions from 200 years go (ie: from the time period at the time of the show's shoot.) One of them can ''[[AliensSpeakingEnglish speak English]]'' because of information stolen from the conspirators. TheReveal: Years before, the government had found itself in a time of social unrest similar to TheSixties. Upon discovering Earth broadcasts, they used them as part of a truly [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent]] conspiracy; manufacture appropriate "evidence", then dispatch TheMenInBlack to suppress it. The resultant subculture of {{Conspiracy Theorist}}s absorbed the government's critics and kept them wasting their time [[AgentMulder chasing "aliens"]] rather than [[LaResistance engaging in civil disobedience.]] ''[[NoDelaysForTheWicked Every crime the government committed afterward was thus blamed on "Outsiders" who secretly manipulated their civilization, permitting them to do as they pleased.]]'' The main government agent upholding the conspiracy credits and thanks the Humans for cigarettes as he smoked one in victory.victory (FridgeLogic don't ask where he gets the tobacco from). Captain Gideon ordered probes loaded with the Interstellar Encyclopedia and sent to the alien world to crack the cover-up.
5th Mar '17 11:19:03 AM themisterfree
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This being said, the series suffered terribly from ExecutiveMeddling from day one - it was commissioned by a network whose understanding of the series pretty much stopped at "We'll be [[CashCowFranchise rolling in money]] if this is as popular as ''Babylon 5'' was," and then later learned that this wasn't the case anyway -- and the relationship between creator/producer Creator/JMichaelStraczynski and the network [[ScrewedByTheNetwork broke down completely]] while the first season was still in production. By the time the series went to air, it had already been cancelled.

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This being said, the series suffered terribly from ExecutiveMeddling from day one - it was commissioned by a network network, Creator/{{TNT}}, whose understanding of the series pretty much stopped at "We'll be [[CashCowFranchise rolling in money]] if this is as popular as ''Babylon 5'' was," and then later learned that this wasn't the case anyway -- and the relationship between creator/producer Creator/JMichaelStraczynski and the network TNT [[ScrewedByTheNetwork broke down completely]] while the first season was still in production. By the time the series went to air, it had already been cancelled.
1st Mar '17 3:47:52 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* AlienNonInterferenceClause: "Visitors from Down the Street" explicitly draws attention to the fact that the ''B5''-[[TheVerse verse]] equivalent of Starfleet ''doesn't have one''. And would be rather hypocritical if it did, because Earth was given [[FasterThanLightTravel jumpgate technology]] by the Centauri in the first place. The aliens had actually assumed they did, even ''trying to rub in'' that the crew couldn't interfere. They made sure to include that part of the conversation in the recordings revealing the conspiracy when they distributed them across the planet.

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* AlienNonInterferenceClause: "Visitors from Down the Street" explicitly draws attention to the fact that the ''B5''-[[TheVerse verse]] equivalent of Starfleet ''doesn't have one''. And would be rather hypocritical if it did, because Earth was given [[FasterThanLightTravel jumpgate technology]] by the Centauri in the first place. The aliens had actually assumed they did, even ''trying to rub in'' that the crew couldn't interfere.interfere (presumably they've been watching too much Star Trek). They made sure to include that part of the conversation in the recordings revealing the conspiracy when they distributed them across the planet.
10th Dec '16 8:41:01 AM LarryMullen
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The most noticeable artifact is the scrambled episode order, but that's just the beginning of it (see trope page for more).
22nd Nov '16 6:53:59 AM Angelus25
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A SpinOff from ''Series/BabylonFive'', telling the story of the spaceship ''Excalibur'' and the search for a counteragent to/cure for a slow-acting biological weapon that had been successfully deployed against the Earth in the B5 movie "A Call to Arms". ''Crusade'' retained two characters from that movie, Galen the techno-mage and Dureena Nafeel the alien thief. Despite its unfortunate resemblance to ''Anime/UchuuSenkanYamato'' (''Star Blazers'' in North America), ''Crusade'' showed promise before its premature death (only 13 episodes were completed out of a planned five seasons).

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A SpinOff from ''Series/BabylonFive'', telling the story of the spaceship ''Excalibur'' and the search for a counteragent to/cure for a slow-acting biological weapon that had been successfully deployed against the Earth in the B5 movie "A ''[[BabylonFiveFilm04ACallToArms A Call to Arms".Arms]]''. ''Crusade'' retained two characters from that movie, Galen the techno-mage and Dureena Nafeel the alien thief. Despite its unfortunate resemblance to ''Anime/UchuuSenkanYamato'' (''Star Blazers'' in North America), ''Crusade'' showed promise before its premature death (only 13 episodes were completed out of a planned five seasons).
27th Oct '16 1:44:50 PM SeptimusHeap
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Amusingly, this level of Executive Meddling made it into the screenplays : In several of the episodes, the situations the characters run through resonate with the situation in which the creator was deadlocked with the network, and some of the corresponding dialogue is acidic, to say the least. Then again, if the author had resigned to the notion that he wasn't going to get the series to fly, why not [[BitingTheHandHumor have some fun while at it?]]

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Amusingly, this level of Executive Meddling made it into the screenplays : screenplays: In several of the episodes, the situations the characters run through resonate with the situation in which the creator was deadlocked with the network, and some of the corresponding dialogue is acidic, to say the least. Then again, if the author had resigned to the notion that he wasn't going to get the series to fly, why not [[BitingTheHandHumor have some fun while at it?]]
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