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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise]], any ''real'' artist's bane. Jackie Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.

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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] ''Webcomic/AwkwardZombie'' author Creator/KatieTiedrich notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise]], any ''real'' artist's bane. Jackie Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.
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* ''Webcomic/SquareRootOfMinusGarfield'' has the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin aptly]] titled [[https://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2117 Self Deprication]].
-->TV: And now, a list of the funniest [=SRoMG=] strips ever shown on this website!
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* ''Webcomic/TwistedKaijuTheater'' has frequently made jokes at the expense of the webcomic's creator Shin-Goji, such as calling him "talentless" and quipping about his inability to get laid.

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* ''Webcomic/TwistedKaijuTheater'' has frequently made jokes at the expense of the webcomic's creator Shin-Goji, such as calling him "talentless" and quipping about his inability to get how unsuccessful he is at getting laid.
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* ''Webcomic/TwistedKaijuTheater'' has frequently made jokes at the expense of the webcomic's creator Shin-Goji, such as calling him "talentless" and quipping about his inability to get laid.
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* ''Webcomic/ThirtySomethingWolf'': When Zephyri was asked why she was dressing up as a Nature Valley bar for Halloween in one strip, she responds by calling herself a "crumbling mess."
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* ''Webcomic/DoghouseDiaries'': The authors enjoy doing this as much as is humanly possible. A good example is in [[http://thedoghousediaries.com/5784 Movies For Aliens,]], in which the alt-text claims aliens must think Doghouse Diaries comics are epic literary tragedies.
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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a ForcedTransformation / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.

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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a ForcedTransformation / [[CloningBlues Clone]] clone of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.
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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a ForcefulTransformation / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.

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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a ForcefulTransformation ForcedTransformation / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.
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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.

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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph ForcefulTransformation / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.
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* Episode 6 of ''Webcomic/JupiterMen'' makes fun of starving artists not unlike the story's writer/artist when an artist is mugged at gunpoint. The mugger insists that the artist must be holding out on him, but said artist reveals his studio art major as an explanation. The mugger than shouts, "How is your poor life decision my problem?!" Jackie also tells the mugger to give the money back to the "nice bum".
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** In one comic, Black Mage gives a [[RantInducingSlight Slight-Induced Rant]] about all the {{Anti Climax}}es they've been through and finally says ScrewThisImOuttaHere.

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** In one comic, Black Mage gives a [[RantInducingSlight Slight-Induced Rant]] slight-induced rant about all the {{Anti Climax}}es they've been through and finally says ScrewThisImOuttaHere.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': [[Creator/PhilFoglio Phil and Kaja Foglio's]] [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090817 Hugo Award acceptance speech.]] Phil's in-story avatar is a storyteller who renders anyone forced to listen to one of his stories comatose with boredom.



* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': [[Creator/PhilFoglio Phil and Kaja Foglio's]] [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090817 Hugo Award acceptance speech.]] Phil's in-story avatar is a storyteller who renders anyone forced to listen to one of his stories comatose with boredom.

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* [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=980203 This]] ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' strip joked that a (fictional) wrongful hiring scandal had drastically hurt the strip's viewership. "Two people used to read ''Sluggy Freelance''. Now only one does. In percentage terms, this is devastating for the comic."
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
** In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html this strip]], one of the demon roaches says, "They'll let any old hack write a sourcebook these days" in reference to the strip's acid-breathing shark. The acidborn template, with the specific example of the acidborn shark, appears in the ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' sourcebook ''Dungeonscape'', co-written by [=OotS=] author Rich Burlew.
** Each print compilation of ''The Order of the Stick'' comics opens with a Foreword by one of the characters. Typically they spend the Foreword mocking the concept of the strip, the writing of the strip, the art style, and [[TakeThatAudience the reader's intellect]] for having wasted their money on an amateurish comic they could have read for free.
** In ''Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales'', the Order is telling stories to one another. In Belkar's, the heroes die, which doesn't amuse the rest of the group:
--->'''Elan:''' Belkar, I can't think of a single story where the protagonist dies.\\
'''Roy:''' [[BackFromTheDead Ahem]].\\
'''Elan:''' Well, at least, not any that are worth the paper they are printed on.
** When Haley pulls an ImpossibleTheft and steals the diamond from the cast page, she notes that the cast page is pretty outdated and that they "all look deformed".

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* [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=980203 This]] ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' strip joked that a (fictional) wrongful hiring scandal had drastically hurt
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* ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'':
** There's [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]]
the comic.metric buttloads of {{Filler}}, and then there's his footnoted clarification of a point about "most consistent work you've ever seen online."
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
-->''Terrible work is still consistent work.''
** Strip 1,000 was called "I can’t believe someone was asshole enough to make 1,000 sprite comics." Strip 1,001 was called "I can’t believe someone was asshole enough to make more than 1,000 sprite comics."
** In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html this strip]], one of comic, Black Mage gives a [[RantInducingSlight Slight-Induced Rant]] about all the demon roaches says, "They'll let any old hack write {{Anti Climax}}es they've been through and finally says ScrewThisImOuttaHere.
* Mark Shallow of ''[[Webcomic/{{Adventurers}} Adventurers!]]'' took
a sourcebook these days" in reference potshot at his older artwork towards the end. In a flashback during a conversation between Khrima and Cody, he briefly reverted to the strip's acid-breathing shark. The acidborn template, with the specific example old art style. Then had Khrima insult it.
--> '''Khrima:''' Hey! My head was ''not'' that square, and I believe you had ''fingers''.
* Chapter 4
of the acidborn shark, appears in the ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' sourcebook ''Dungeonscape'', co-written by [=OotS=] author Rich Burlew.
** Each print compilation of ''The Order of the Stick'' comics opens
''Webcomic/ApricotCookies'' starts with a Foreword by one ''barrage'' of this as Apricot and Starlet are discussing the characters. Typically they spend comic book that the Foreword mocking latter created:
** The comic reads left-to-right,
the concept opposite direction of what would be expected, which Apricot describes as "dumb and confusing".
** After Starlet decides that it's too late to change
the strip, reading direction, Apricot suggests making it into "a funny meta-joke in a later chapter"—which is what Louistrations ''just did''—and Starlet dismisses the writing of the strip, the art style, and [[TakeThatAudience the reader's intellect]] for having wasted idea in order to not be seen as a "smartass".
** Then Starlet rails on anyone who would make
their money on an amateurish comic they could have read for free.
** In ''Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales'', the Order is telling stories to one another. In Belkar's, the heroes die, which doesn't amuse the rest of the group:
--->'''Elan:''' Belkar, I can't think of a single story where the protagonist dies.\\
'''Roy:''' [[BackFromTheDead Ahem]].\\
'''Elan:''' Well, at least, not any that are worth the paper they are printed on.
** When Haley pulls an ImpossibleTheft and steals the diamond from the cast page, she
in full color.
* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]]
notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the cast page is pretty outdated and best way to get undying praise]], any ''real'' artist's bane. Jackie Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.
* ''WebComic/BasicInstructions'': [[http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/12/7/how-to-utilize-research-to-maximize-chances-for-success.html How to Utilize Research to Maximize Chances for Success]]
--> '''Ric:''' ''I searched for a field of endeavor
that they "all look deformed".anyone, regardless of their lack of skill, talent or taste has a chance of success. I chose webcomics.''
--> '''[[AuthorAvatar Scott]]:''' ''Of course.''
* ''Webcomic/BecauseImDepressed'' frequently jokes about how webcomics require no artistic or writing skill to make, [[CreatorCareerSelfDeprecation and how their creators are untalented losers.]]



* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise]], any ''real'' artist's bane.
** Jackie Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.
* ''[[http://www.eskimobob.com/ Eskimo Bob]]'' did this with "[[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/26756 Eskimo Sucks]]".
* ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'' occasionally features Choo-Choo Bear "off-stage" to address the reader directly, declaring that his author is a lazy, talentless hack who can't get his act together.
-->'''[[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/ Choo-Choo Bear]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]]."
** In another strip, Milholland gives a nod to the FourthWall when [=PeeJee=] asks, "Why does everything around here revolve around sex?" and Davan, who's reading a book, mutters, "Bad writing." When glanced at in curiosity, he says, "I'm reading a Creator/JohnGrisham book, worst writing I've ever seen." Milholland also draws filler strips with himself in them, usually self-deprecating in some way. This version of his AuthorAvatar even has a razor blade with hands and feet as his muse, who constantly says/does whatever he can think of to make Milholland miserable or want to kill himself.
** And then there's [[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/stuck-on-friend-duty-pt-4/ this]] strip. Technically, Milholland did subvert a little of what the character predicted. A little.
* ''[[http://www.jaydenandcrusader.com Jayden and Crusader]]'' ''embodied'' this trope for much of its early stages. Later the self-deprecation slackened a little, but it's still there.

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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise]], any ''real'' artist's bane.
** Jackie Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.
* ''[[http://www.eskimobob.com/ Eskimo Bob]]'' did
''Webcomic/DorkTower'' creator Creator/JohnKovalic sometimes couples this with "[[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/26756 Eskimo Sucks]]".
* ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'' occasionally features Choo-Choo Bear "off-stage"
BreakingTheFourthWall to address the reader directly, declaring that his author is a lazy, talentless hack who can't get his act together.
-->'''[[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/ Choo-Choo Bear]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate
poke fun at himself.
-->'''Ken:''' "Let's admit
it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]].Kovalic's about as organized as a wet mound of marmots."
** In another strip, Milholland gives * ''WebComic/DragonBallMultiverse'': Raditz makes a nod to the FourthWall when [=PeeJee=] asks, "Why does everything around here revolve around sex?" and Davan, who's reading comment about Dabura "being affected by such a book, mutters, "Bad writing.simple technique." When glanced at The technique in curiosity, he says, "I'm reading a Creator/JohnGrisham book, worst writing I've ever seen." Milholland also draws filler strips with himself in them, usually self-deprecating in some way. This version of his AuthorAvatar even has a razor blade with hands and feet as his muse, who constantly says/does whatever he can think of to make Milholland miserable or want to kill himself.
** And then there's [[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/stuck-on-friend-duty-pt-4/ this]] strip. Technically, Milholland did subvert a little of what
question: the character predicted. A little.
* ''[[http://www.jaydenandcrusader.com Jayden and Crusader]]'' ''embodied'' this trope for much of its early stages. Later the self-deprecation slackened a little, but it's still there.
Makankousappo.



* ''Webcomic/PolkOut'' tends to rely on self-deprecating humor.
* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': [[Creator/PhilFoglio Phil and Kaja Foglio's]] [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090817 Hugo Award acceptance speech.]]
** Also Phil's in-story avatar is a storyteller who renders anyone forced to listen to one of his stories comatose with boredom.
* Al Schroeder did it twice in ''Webcomic/{{Mindmistress}}'', making fun of his artwork.
* See [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-11-09 the title of this]] ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' comic.
** And [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-04-26 this one]], which is mostly LeaningOnTheFourthWall about why the current storyline is a bad idea, because "any writer who takes something ''[[SuspensionOfDisbelief no-one was questioning]]'' and tries to ''[[DoingInTheWizard explain it]]'' is a ''hack''."

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* ''Webcomic/PolkOut'' tends to rely on self-deprecating humor.
* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': [[Creator/PhilFoglio Phil and Kaja Foglio's]]
''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'':
**
[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090817 Hugo Award acceptance speech.]]
** Also Phil's in-story avatar is a storyteller who renders anyone forced to listen to one of his stories comatose with boredom.
* Al Schroeder did it twice in ''Webcomic/{{Mindmistress}}'', making fun of his artwork.
* See [[http://www.
egscomics.com/?date=2005-11-09 the title of this]] ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' comic.
** And [[http://www.egscomics.
com/?date=2010-04-26 this one]], This strip]], which is mostly LeaningOnTheFourthWall about why the current storyline is a bad idea, because "any writer who takes something ''[[SuspensionOfDisbelief no-one was questioning]]'' and tries to ''[[DoingInTheWizard explain it]]'' is a ''hack''."



* When ''[[http://www.tangcomic.com/ Tang Ho]]'' needs someone to function as a ButtMonkey, his first choice is generally his own AuthorAvatar.

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* When ''[[http://www.tangcomic.com/ Tang Ho]]'' needs someone ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': [[Creator/PhilFoglio Phil and Kaja Foglio's]] [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090817 Hugo Award acceptance speech.]] Phil's in-story avatar is a storyteller who renders anyone forced to function as a ButtMonkey, listen to one of his first choice is generally his own AuthorAvatar.stories comatose with boredom.



* ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'': there's [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] the metric buttloads of {{Filler}}, and then there's his footnoted clarification of a point about "most consistent work you've ever seen online."
-->''Terrible work is still consistent work.''
** Strip 1,000 was called "I can’t believe someone was asshole enough to make 1,000 sprite comics." Strip 1,001 was called "I can’t believe someone was asshole enough to make more than 1,000 sprite comics."
** In another comic, Black Mage gives a [[RantInducingSlight Slight-Induced Rant]] about all the {{Anti Climax}}es they've been through and finally says ScrewThisImOuttaHere.
* The author of WordSaladHumorTragicDeaths is also the main character, and he dies almost OnceAnEpisode



** And later, [[HostileShowTakeover Doc Scratch]] calls the {{Author Guest Spot}}s "self-indulgent rubbish."

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** And later, [[HostileShowTakeover Doc Scratch]] calls the {{Author Guest Spot}}s "self-indulgent rubbish."



** And then there's Hussie making fun of Vriska's CreatorsPet status by having his AuthorAvatar propose to her...only to get clocked in the face and turn up sobbing pathetically later on.

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** And then there's ** Hussie making fun of Vriska's CreatorsPet status by having his AuthorAvatar propose to her...only to get clocked in the face and turn up sobbing pathetically later on.



* David Morgan-Mar, author of ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'', periodically mocks his own drawing skills and penchant for awful, awful puns. He even once convinced Jane Goodall to pretend to slap him for how he portrayed her LEGO alter-ego. (Well, actually, he asked her to pretend to punch him - she convinced him a monkey-slap would be more in-character for her!)
* In the webcomic ''Webcomic/{{Jack|DavidHopkins}}'', Artie Sullivan dislikes an author for being too gory when he's not being too preachy. The author is (who else?) David Hopkins.
* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.



** After reading his blog posts, it seems he really does. He praises his collaborators and insults himself often.
* Much of ''Webcomic/TheWayOfTheMetagamer'', particularly during its self-[[{{MST}} MSTing]].
* The ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' voteys often engage in this; a common theme is to depict a naked Zach ironically praising the joke or subject matter of the main comic.
--> "Ha! Any use of "decontextualised" is funny!"
** Another common one is to have Zach's girlfriend/wife/family looking angrily over his shoulder while he's drawing and maybe commenting. [[https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-12-07 One time]] she ''likes'' the strip a lot -- and Zach calls her weird.
** When he went back and did voteys for the first few years of strips ten or more years later, a large number of them ended up as variations of "I don't get it" and "WhoWritesThisCrap" Once, in reference to the previous point, we have older Zach looking over young Zach's shoulder angrily.
** There are also several voteys talking about how comics suck.



* When ''Webcomic/PvP'' wins an Eisner award, ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' takes some time off from making fun of Scott Kurtz to [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/04/15/ make fun of themselves.]]
** ''Webcomic/PennyArcade:'' "Cartoonists are [[http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/06/17 society's waste products]]."

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* When ''Webcomic/PvP'' wins an Eisner award, ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' takes some time off from Al Schroeder did it twice in ''Webcomic/{{Mindmistress}}'', making fun of Scott Kurtz to his artwork.
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
** In
[[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/04/15/ make fun giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html this strip]], one of themselves.]]
the demon roaches says, "They'll let any old hack write a sourcebook these days" in reference to the strip's acid-breathing shark. The acidborn template, with the specific example of the acidborn shark, appears in the ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' sourcebook ''Dungeonscape'', co-written by [=OotS=] author Rich Burlew.
** ''Webcomic/PennyArcade:'' Each print compilation of ''The Order of the Stick'' comics opens with a Foreword by one of the characters. Typically they spend the Foreword mocking the concept of the strip, the writing of the strip, the art style, and [[TakeThatAudience the reader's intellect]] for having wasted their money on an amateurish comic they could have read for free.
** In ''Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales'', the Order is telling stories to one another. In Belkar's, the heroes die, which doesn't amuse the rest of the group:
--->'''Elan:''' Belkar, I can't think of a single story where the protagonist dies.\\
'''Roy:''' [[BackFromTheDead Ahem]].\\
'''Elan:''' Well, at least, not any that are worth the paper they are printed on.
** When Haley pulls an ImpossibleTheft and steals the diamond from the cast page, she notes that the cast page is pretty outdated and that they "all look deformed".
* Webcomic/OzyAndMillie creator Creator/DanaSimpson also does some songwriting. One strip had the lyrics to one of her songs appear, and Felicia mocked the heavy use of overly emotional metaphors.
* ''Webcomic/PennyArcade:''
**
"Cartoonists are [[http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/06/17 society's waste products]]."



* ''Webcomic/BecauseImDepressed'' frequently jokes about how webcomics require no artistic or writing skill to make, [[CreatorCareerSelfDeprecation and how their creators are untalented losers.]]
* ''Webcomic/DorkTower'' creator Creator/JohnKovalic sometimes couples this with BreakingTheFourthWall to poke fun at himself.
-->'''Ken:''' "Let's admit it, Kovalic's about as organized as a wet mound of marmots."
* In the webcomic ''Webcomic/{{Jack|DavidHopkins}}'', Artie Sullivan dislikes an author for being too gory when he's not being too preachy. The author is (who else?) David Hopkins.
* LDS cartoonist Howard Tayler pokes fun of his own religion, with a joke about Mormons being teetotal in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2000-11-10 this]] strip from ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary''. Early strips also contain jabs at the initial poor quality of the artwork.
** And occasionally the plot, as in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-04-25 this strip]].
-->'''Kevyn:''' Look at it this way, guys. If you have an [[MonkeysOnATypewriter infinite number of monkeys banging on an infinite number of hypernet terminals, for an infinite amount of time]], eventually you'll crank out all the great works of Howard Tayler.
-->'''Narrator:''' Note: This can actually be done with three monkeys in fifteen minutes.
* Doc Nickel, of ''Webcomic/TheWhiteboard'' fame, takes a swing at himself in [[http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwbaf10.html this]] AprilFoolsDay strip, on the subject of OnlySixFaces[[note]]see the top and bottom right corners[[/note]].
* ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'' creator Jeph Jacques introduced the character of Yelling Bird into the comic, whose sole purpose is to [[http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1140 berate him]] when he is unable to get the comic up on time for various reasons. Yelling Bird doesn't [[http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1456 stop there]], though.

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* ''Webcomic/BecauseImDepressed'' frequently jokes about how webcomics require no artistic or writing skill to make, [[CreatorCareerSelfDeprecation and how their creators are untalented losers.]]
* ''Webcomic/DorkTower'' creator Creator/JohnKovalic sometimes couples this with BreakingTheFourthWall to poke fun at himself.
-->'''Ken:''' "Let's admit it, Kovalic's about as organized as a wet mound
Several comics of marmots."
* In
''Webcomic/ThePetriDish'' have the webcomic ''Webcomic/{{Jack|DavidHopkins}}'', Artie Sullivan dislikes an author for being too gory when he's not being too preachy. The author is (who else?) David Hopkins.
* LDS
characters calling the cartoonist Howard Tayler pokes fun of his own religion, with a joke about Mormons being teetotal in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2000-11-10 this]] strip from ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary''. Early strips also contain jabs at the initial poor quality of the artwork.
lazy.
* ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent''
** And occasionally the plot, as in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-04-25 this strip]].
-->'''Kevyn:''' Look at it this way, guys. If you have an [[MonkeysOnATypewriter infinite number of monkeys banging on an infinite number of hypernet terminals, for an infinite amount of time]], eventually you'll crank out all the great works of Howard Tayler.
-->'''Narrator:''' Note: This can actually be done with three monkeys in fifteen minutes.
* Doc Nickel, of ''Webcomic/TheWhiteboard'' fame, takes a swing at himself in [[http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwbaf10.html this]] AprilFoolsDay strip, on the subject of OnlySixFaces[[note]]see the top and bottom right corners[[/note]].
* ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'' creator
Creator Jeph Jacques introduced the character of Yelling Bird into the comic, whose sole purpose is to [[http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1140 berate him]] when he is unable to get the comic up on time for various reasons. Yelling Bird doesn't [[http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1456 stop there]], though.



* ''{{Webcomic/Sarilho}}'': Whatever Nikita's got going on [[https://sarilho.net/en/arquivo/comic/ch4p42 in this page]].
* A slightly more subtle version in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}''. Protagonist Super Heroine Heather admits to hating manga-style comics. Odd considering the general art style of the comic.
* During chapter 58 of ''Webcomic/WelcomeToTheConvenienceStore'' one character is showing off short (yet true) stories that have happened. At the end, the manager says that the artist/writer was just being incredibly lazy.
* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', one character reads ''Sinfest''. Criminy's anthropomorphic feminism book [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4143 reacts badly.]] Also a regular staple for whenever the AuthorAvatar character shows up.

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* ''{{Webcomic/Sarilho}}'': Whatever Nikita's got going on [[https://sarilho.net/en/arquivo/comic/ch4p42 * ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'':
** The voteys often engage
in this page]].
* A slightly more subtle version in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}''. Protagonist Super Heroine Heather admits
this; a common theme is to hating manga-style comics. Odd considering depict a naked Zach ironically praising the general art style joke or subject matter of the main comic.
* During chapter 58 --> "Ha! Any use of ''Webcomic/WelcomeToTheConvenienceStore'' "decontextualised" is funny!"
** Another common
one is to have Zach's girlfriend/wife/family looking angrily over his shoulder while he's drawing and maybe commenting. [[https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-12-07 One time]] she ''likes'' the strip a lot -- and Zach calls her weird.
** When he went back and did voteys for the first few years of strips ten or more years later, a large number of them ended up as variations of "I don't get it" and "WhoWritesThisCrap" Once, in reference to the previous point, we have older Zach looking over young Zach's shoulder angrily.
** There are several voteys talking about how comics suck.
* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'':
** LDS cartoonist Howard Tayler pokes fun of his own religion, with a joke about Mormons being teetotal in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2000-11-10 this]] strip.
** Early strips also contain jabs at the initial poor quality of the artwork and occasionally the plot, as in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-04-25 this strip]].
-->'''Kevyn:''' Look at it this way, guys. If you have an [[MonkeysOnATypewriter infinite number of monkeys banging on an infinite number of hypernet terminals, for an infinite amount of time]], eventually you'll crank out all the great works of Howard Tayler.
-->'''Narrator:''' Note: This can actually be done with three monkeys in fifteen minutes.
* ''Webcomic/ASimpleThinkingAboutBloodType'' portrays Type O as being the most [[ButtMonkey prone to misfortune]], and often receives brunt of Type AB's BrutalHonesty and snide remarks. The author/cartoonist is a Type O himself and has admitted that the
character is showing off short (yet true) stories that have happened. At the end, the manager says that the artist/writer was just being incredibly lazy.
* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', one
based on himself.
* ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'',
** One
character reads ''Sinfest''. Criminy's anthropomorphic feminism book [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4143 reacts badly.]] Also a regular staple for whenever the AuthorAvatar character shows up.



* ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'':
** The comic occasionally features Choo-Choo Bear "off-stage" to address the reader directly, declaring that his author is a lazy, talentless hack who can't get his act together.
-->'''[[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/ Choo-Choo Bear]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]]."
** In one strip, Milholland gives a nod to the FourthWall when [=PeeJee=] asks, "Why does everything around here revolve around sex?" and Davan, who's reading a book, mutters, "Bad writing." When glanced at in curiosity, he says, "I'm reading a Creator/JohnGrisham book, worst writing I've ever seen." Milholland also draws filler strips with himself in them, usually self-deprecating in some way. This version of his AuthorAvatar even has a razor blade with hands and feet as his muse, who constantly says/does whatever he can think of to make Milholland miserable or want to kill himself.
%%** [[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/stuck-on-friend-duty-pt-4/ This]] strip. Technically, Milholland did subvert a little of what the character predicted. A little.
* [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=980203 This]] ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' strip joked that a (fictional) wrongful hiring scandal had drastically hurt the strip's viewership. "Two people used to read ''Sluggy Freelance''. Now only one does. In percentage terms, this is devastating for the comic."
* A slightly more subtle version in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}''. Protagonist Super Heroine Heather admits to hating manga-style comics. Odd considering the general art style of the comic.
* ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'': In one comic Alan Foreman's characters give him a "How to Draw Comics" book as a joke, he responds by turning them into stick figures.
* When ''[[http://www.tangcomic.com/ Tang Ho]]'' needs someone to function as a ButtMonkey, his first choice is generally his own AuthorAvatar.



* David Morgan-Mar, author of ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'', periodically mocks his own drawing skills and penchant for awful, awful puns. He even once convinced Jane Goodall to pretend to slap him for how he portrayed her LEGO alter-ego. (Well, actually, he asked her to pretend to punch him - she convinced him a monkey-slap would be more in-character for her!)
* ''WebComic/DragonBallMultiverse'': Raditz makes a comment about Dabura "being affected by such a simple technique." The technique in question: the Makankousappo.
* ''WebComic/BasicInstructions'': [[http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/12/7/how-to-utilize-research-to-maximize-chances-for-success.html How to Utilize Research to Maximize Chances for Success]]
--> '''Ric:''' ''I searched for a field of endeavor that anyone, regardless of their lack of skill, talent or taste has a chance of success. I chose webcomics.''
--> '''[[AuthorAvatar Scott]]:''' ''Of course.''
* Mark Shallow of ''[[Webcomic/{{Adventurers}} Adventurers!]]'' took a potshot at his older artwork towards the end. In a flashback during a conversation between Khrima and Cody, he briefly reverted to the old art style. Then had Khrima insult it.
--> '''Khrima:''' Hey! My head was ''not'' that square, and I believe you had ''fingers''.
* Webcomic/OzyAndMillie creator Creator/DanaSimpson also does some songwriting. One strip had the lyrics to one of her songs appear, and Felicia mocked the heavy use of overly emotional metaphors.
* Chapter 4 of ''Webcomic/ApricotCookies'' starts with a ''barrage'' of this as Apricot and Starlet are discussing the comic book that the latter created:
** The comic reads left-to-right, the opposite direction of what would be expected, which Apricot describes as "dumb and confusing".
** After Starlet decides that it's too late to change the reading direction, Apricot suggests making it into "a funny meta-joke in a later chapter"—which is what Louistrations ''just did''—and Starlet dismisses the idea in order to not be seen as a "smartass".
** Then Starlet rails on anyone who would make their comic in full color, shown above.
* Several comics of ''Webcomic/ThePetriDish'' have the characters calling the cartoonist lazy.
* ''Webcomic/ASimpleThinkingAboutBloodType'' portrays Type O as being the most [[ButtMonkey prone to misfortune]], and often receives brunt of Type AB's BrutalHonesty and snide remarks. The author/cartoonist is a Type O himself and has admitted that the character is based on himself.
* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.
* ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'': In one comic Alan Foreman's characters give him a "How to Draw Comics" book as a joke, he responds by turning them into stick figures.

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* David Morgan-Mar, author During chapter 58 of ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'', periodically mocks his own drawing skills and penchant for awful, awful puns. He even once convinced Jane Goodall to pretend to slap him for how he portrayed her LEGO alter-ego. (Well, actually, he asked her to pretend to punch him - she convinced him a monkey-slap would be more in-character for her!)
* ''WebComic/DragonBallMultiverse'': Raditz makes a comment about Dabura "being affected by such a simple technique." The technique in question: the Makankousappo.
* ''WebComic/BasicInstructions'': [[http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/12/7/how-to-utilize-research-to-maximize-chances-for-success.html How to Utilize Research to Maximize Chances for Success]]
--> '''Ric:''' ''I searched for a field of endeavor that anyone, regardless of their lack of skill, talent or taste has a chance of success. I chose webcomics.''
--> '''[[AuthorAvatar Scott]]:''' ''Of course.''
* Mark Shallow of ''[[Webcomic/{{Adventurers}} Adventurers!]]'' took a potshot at his older artwork towards the end. In a flashback during a conversation between Khrima and Cody, he briefly reverted to the old art style. Then had Khrima insult it.
--> '''Khrima:''' Hey! My head was ''not'' that square, and I believe you had ''fingers''.
* Webcomic/OzyAndMillie creator Creator/DanaSimpson also does some songwriting. One strip had the lyrics to
''Webcomic/WelcomeToTheConvenienceStore'' one of her songs appear, and Felicia mocked the heavy use of overly emotional metaphors.
* Chapter 4 of ''Webcomic/ApricotCookies'' starts with a ''barrage'' of this as Apricot and Starlet are discussing the comic book that the latter created:
** The comic reads left-to-right, the opposite direction of what would be expected, which Apricot describes as "dumb and confusing".
** After Starlet decides that it's too late to change the reading direction, Apricot suggests making it into "a funny meta-joke in a later chapter"—which is what Louistrations ''just did''—and Starlet dismisses the idea in order to not be seen as a "smartass".
** Then Starlet rails on anyone who would make their comic in full color, shown above.
* Several comics of ''Webcomic/ThePetriDish'' have the characters calling the cartoonist lazy.
* ''Webcomic/ASimpleThinkingAboutBloodType'' portrays Type O as being the most [[ButtMonkey prone to misfortune]], and often receives brunt of Type AB's BrutalHonesty and snide remarks. The author/cartoonist is a Type O himself and has admitted that the
character is based on himself.
* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told her
showing off short (yet true) stories that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and have happened. At the end, the manager says that the artist/writer was just made her uncomfortable.
being incredibly lazy.
* ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'': In one comic Alan Foreman's characters give him Doc Nickel, of ''Webcomic/TheWhiteboard'' fame, takes a "How to Draw Comics" book as a joke, swing at himself in [[http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwbaf10.html this]] AprilFoolsDay strip, on the subject of OnlySixFaces[[note]]see the top and bottom right corners[[/note]].
* The author of Webcomic/WordSaladHumorTragicDeaths is also the main character, and
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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html this strip]] of ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', one of the demon roaches says, "They'll let any old hack write a sourcebook these days" in reference to the strip's acid-breathing shark. The acidborn template, with the specific example of the acidborn shark, appears in the ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' sourcebook ''Dungeonscape'', co-written by [=OotS=] author Rich Burlew.
** Which begs the question of whether Rich first dreamed up the acid-breathing shark ''for his webcomic'', and included it in the sourcebook merely to lay the groundwork for his TakeThatMe...

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* *''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
**
In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html this strip]] of ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', strip]], one of the demon roaches says, "They'll let any old hack write a sourcebook these days" in reference to the strip's acid-breathing shark. The acidborn template, with the specific example of the acidborn shark, appears in the ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' sourcebook ''Dungeonscape'', co-written by [=OotS=] author Rich Burlew.
** Which begs the question of whether Rich first dreamed up the acid-breathing shark ''for his webcomic'', and included it in the sourcebook merely to lay the groundwork for his TakeThatMe...
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* ''Webcomic/{{Maximumble}}'': In one strip, two characters labeled "Me" and "Also me" talk about how one can't think of any ideas for a new comic strip, and wants to make a strip about how he can't think of any ideas, which the other one makes fun of him for. The second character then points out that he's sitting at a fake cartoonist drawing table, and in reality he sits on a couch and draws on an iPad.
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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise,]] any ''real'' artist's bane.

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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise,]] praise]], any ''real'' artist's bane.



* Al Schroeder did it twice in ''Webcomic/{{Mindmistress}}'', making fun from his artwork.

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* Al Schroeder did it twice in ''Webcomic/{{Mindmistress}}'', making fun from of his artwork.



-->I will be attending ECCC in Seattle this weekend. If you would like to come see your favorite cartoonist ever, this could be your chance. And if you go there and find your favorite cartoonist is unavailable, you can always come see me instead. I will console you. This kind of humor is known by professionals as "self deprecation" and as you can see I'm quite good at it.

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-->I will be attending ECCC in Seattle this weekend. If you would like to come see your favorite cartoonist ever, this could be your chance. And if you go there and find your favorite cartoonist is unavailable, you can always come see me instead. I will console you. This kind of humor is known by professionals as "self deprecation" "self-deprecation" and as you can see I'm quite good at it.



* A slightly more subtle version in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}''. Protagonist Super Heroine Heather admits to hating manga style comics. Odd considering the general art style of the comic.
* During chapter 58 of ''Webcomic/WelcomeToTheConvenienceStore'' one character is showing off short (yet true) stories that have happened. At the end the manager says that the artist/writer was just being incredibly lazy.

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* A slightly more subtle version in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}''. Protagonist Super Heroine Heather admits to hating manga style manga-style comics. Odd considering the general art style of the comic.
* During chapter 58 of ''Webcomic/WelcomeToTheConvenienceStore'' one character is showing off short (yet true) stories that have happened. At the end end, the manager says that the artist/writer was just being incredibly lazy.
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-->'''[[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]]."

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-->'''[[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/]]:''' net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/ Choo-Choo Bear]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]]."
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-->'''[[http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp03012009.shtml Choo-Choo Bear]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]]."

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-->'''[[http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp03012009.shtml Choo-Choo Bear]]:''' -->'''[[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/life-according-to-s-p-pt-1/]]:''' Alas, dear readers, you know when you see me Randy is planning something "special." It'll be over quickly, I promise ... And if you hate it, don't worry. It's not like this will be the project Mr. "I swear I'll update ''Midnight Macabre''" [[AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder will actually finish]]."



** And then there's [[http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp02112004.shtml this]] strip. Technically, Milholland did subvert a little of what the character predicted. A little.

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** And then there's [[http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp02112004.shtml [[https://somethingpositive.net/comic/stuck-on-friend-duty-pt-4/ this]] strip. Technically, Milholland did subvert a little of what the character predicted. A little.
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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-090108.php the best way to get undying praise,]] any ''real'' artist's bane.
** Josh Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.

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* [[Webcomic/AwkwardZombie Katie Teidrich]] notes that SelfDeprecation is [[http://www.[[https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-090108.php com/comic/a-brief-interlude the best way to get undying praise,]] any ''real'' artist's bane.
** Josh Jackie Lesnick, in response, obliged by offering advice on how to improve her puppy-kicking technique.
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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of Willa. At one point, Rose told Willa that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.

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* ''Webcomic/LatchkeyKingdom'' features Rose, a BalefulPolymorph / [[CloningBlues Clone]] of Willa. [[spoiler:Willa]]. At one point, Rose told Willa her that she's "the real adventurer" to encourage her. It didn't work and just made her uncomfortable.

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