History SeinfeldIsUnfunny / WesternAnimation

11th Jul '17 9:32:49 AM rjd1922
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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}''. Back in 2001, this iconoclastic take on FairyTales and use of pop-culture references felt like a welcome reprieve from the usual clean fare. Now, with several films, including a few from Shrek's own studio Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, [[FollowTheLeader following the same formula]], the sheen has worn off the franchise.
** Most consider this trope to have reached UpToEleven with the [[TrailersAlwaysLie misleading ad campaign]] for Disney's ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', which tried to portray a more traditional fairy tale as a hip spoof of fairy tales -- meaning, in essence, that the TropeMaker for such traditional movies is now scared to admit they're still making them.

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** * ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}''. Back in 2001, this iconoclastic take on FairyTales and use of pop-culture references felt like a welcome reprieve from the usual clean fare. Now, with several films, including a few from Shrek's own studio Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, [[FollowTheLeader following the same formula]], the sheen has worn off the franchise.
** * Most consider this trope to have reached UpToEleven with the [[TrailersAlwaysLie misleading ad campaign]] for Disney's ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', which tried to portray a more traditional fairy tale as a hip spoof of fairy tales -- meaning, in essence, that the TropeMaker for such traditional movies is now scared to admit they're still making them.
22nd Jun '17 4:55:09 AM tropower
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGalaxyRangers'' was a very off beat show when it first appeared in 1985 with its blend of space opera, western and samurai motifs and an atmosphere that felt closer to a show from the early '90s rather than the mid '80s, what with all the NightmareFuel. Today it probably wouldn't look nearly as unique to a more cynical and less sensitive audience.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGalaxyRangers'' was a very off beat show when it first appeared in 1985 1986 with its blend of space opera, western and samurai motifs and an atmosphere that felt closer to a show from the early '90s rather than the mid '80s, what with all the NightmareFuel. Today it probably wouldn't look nearly as unique to a more cynical and less sensitive audience.
18th Jun '17 11:33:42 AM ObeisantCattle
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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' and ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown''were one of the first mainstream Western animated comedies to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Any new viewer going back to watch these early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why these shows approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of ChekhovsGun was so special at the time.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' and ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown''were ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'' were one of the first mainstream Western animated comedies to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Any new viewer going back to watch these early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why these shows approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of ChekhovsGun was so special at the time.
18th Jun '17 11:31:47 AM ObeisantCattle
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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' and ''WesternAnimation/Xiaolin Showdown''were one of the first mainstream Western animated comedies to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Any new viewer going back to watch these early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why these shows approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of ChekhovsGun was so special at the time.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' and ''WesternAnimation/Xiaolin Showdown''were ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown''were one of the first mainstream Western animated comedies to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Any new viewer going back to watch these early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why these shows approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of ChekhovsGun was so special at the time.
18th Jun '17 11:30:16 AM ObeisantCattle
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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western animated series to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Any new viewer going back to watch this early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why the show's approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of ChekhovsGun was so special at the time.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was and ''WesternAnimation/Xiaolin Showdown''were one of the first mainstream Western animated series comedies to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Any new viewer going back to watch this these early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why the show's these shows approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of ChekhovsGun was so special at the time.
7th Jun '17 7:37:01 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' premiered in 1991, before most SliceOfLife animated shows were created, thus creating a rather large impact. However, with a lot of the shows of the genre today, it makes everything in ''Doug'' look rather cliche, though that's mainly due to many shows of the genre using plots similar to the show's episodes.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' premiered in 1991, long before most SliceOfLife animated shows series were created, thus creating a rather large impact. However, with a lot of the shows of the genre today, it makes created. Nowadays, everything in ''Doug'' look looks rather cliche, though that's mainly due to the nature of the genre meaning that many shows of the genre this type are stuck using plots the similar to the show's episodes.plots.
7th Jun '17 7:34:29 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western animated series to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Back to watch this early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why the show's approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of {{Chekhovs Gun}}s was so special.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western animated series to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. Back Any new viewer going back to watch this early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why the show's approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of {{Chekhovs Gun}}s ChekhovsGun was so special.special at the time.



** ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse'': The world's most iconic cartoon character of all time is still popular ever since his creation in 1928, yet most people wouldn't exactly call him their favorite Disney character at all. Ever since the second half of the 1930s Mickey changed into a bland character who is more an extra in his own films and lets Donald Duck or Goofy steal the show. Many people nowadays wonder how on Earth this character ever became such a universal success? In reality much of the early 1930s Mickey cartoons and comic strips show Mickey engaging in heroic adventures and use his strength and wits to overcome problems and villains, which is far more entertaining than what he would eventually become. And Mickey's success effectively proved that animated cartoons could be an artform and business at the same time. [[FollowTheLeader Without that mouse most of today's cartoons wouldn't exist]].

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** ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse'': The world's most iconic cartoon character of all time is still popular ever since his creation in 1928, yet most people wouldn't exactly call him their favorite Disney character at all. Ever since the second half of the 1930s Mickey changed into a bland character who is more an extra in his own films and lets Donald Duck or Goofy steal the show. Many people nowadays wonder how on Earth this character ever became such a universal success? In reality reality, much of the early 1930s Mickey cartoons and comic strips show Mickey engaging in heroic adventures and use his strength and wits to overcome problems and villains, which is far more entertaining than what he would eventually become. And Mickey's success effectively proved that animated cartoons could be an artform and business at the same time. [[FollowTheLeader Without that mouse most of today's cartoons wouldn't exist]].
7th Jun '17 7:31:00 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western kids' comedies to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with world-building and story arcs, predating other such shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. A new viewer going back to watch this early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why it's such a big deal that some silly cigar from a season one episode came back as a major plot element in season two, or why the final season in general was so interesting.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western kids' comedies animated series to undergo CerebusSyndrome and heavily experiment with world-building and story arcs, a mix of serialized storytelling alongside more episodic fare, predating other such similar shows like ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' by several years. A new viewer going back Back to watch this early 2000s show would have trouble understanding why it's such a big deal that some silly cigar from a season one episode came back as a major plot element in season two, or why the final season in general show's approach to worldbuilding, season-long story arcs, and regular use of {{Chekhovs Gun}}s was so interesting.special.
4th Jun '17 12:03:50 AM needsanewhobby
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** ''The Simpsons'' also paved the way for continuity in an animated series. The episode "A Milhouse Divided" was subversive in that not only did Milhouse's parents, who got divorced mid-episode, ''not'' get back together by the end of the episode, later episodes depicted them living apart. Before then, all animated series, and most live-action sitcoms, had no continuity and relied on the SnapBack if an episode didn't end the way it started. This was even brought up in the DVD commentary. Nowadays, many popular cartoons have strong continuity; its sister series, ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', so much so that ''The Simpsons'' is often labeled with StatusQuoIsGod, even right here on , as its own continuity is mild by comparison.

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** ''The Simpsons'' also paved the way for continuity in an animated series. The episode "A Milhouse Divided" was subversive in that not only did Milhouse's parents, who got divorced mid-episode, ''not'' get back together by the end of the episode, later episodes depicted them living apart. (In fact even before this, Lisa's conversion to vegetarianism was a notable permanent character change.) Before then, all animated series, and most live-action sitcoms, had no continuity and relied on the SnapBack if an episode didn't end the way it started. This was even brought up in the DVD commentary. Nowadays, many popular cartoons have strong continuity; its sister series, ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', so much so that ''The Simpsons'' is often labeled with StatusQuoIsGod, even right here on , on, as its own continuity is mild by comparison.
3rd Jun '17 11:55:23 PM needsanewhobby
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** Let's face it: before ''B and B'', the "ignorant 14-year-old with no future" trope had virtually disappeared from popular fiction. Not only that, but this show was maybe the first on television to accurately portray the average 14-year-old's sex drive.

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** Let's face it: before ''B and B'', the "ignorant 14-year-old with no future" trope had virtually disappeared from popular fiction. Not only that, but this show was maybe the first on television to accurately portray the average 14-year-old's sex drive. Or the average 14-year-old ''boy's'' at any rate.
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