History SeinfeldIsUnfunny / WesternAnimation

10th Jun '16 11:19:55 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** It was also parodied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'', in an OriginsEpisode, where the three protagonists' history was established. Supposedly, they were first inserted in a cartoon with a character named "Buddy" to liven it up, after the producer claimed Buddy was "a cure for insomnia".

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** It was also parodied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'', in an OriginsEpisode, where the three protagonists' history was established. Supposedly, they were first inserted in a cartoon with a character named "Buddy" to liven it up, after the producer claimed Buddy was "a cure for insomnia".insomnia" ([[AluminumChristmasTrees Buddy was, in fact, a real Warner Bros. character who was phased out because his cartoons were boring]]).
14th May '16 10:03:00 AM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western kids' shows to undergo CerebusSyndrome and experiment with world-building and story arcs. However, it's heavy influence it has made it difficult for a new viewer to see what's so special about it. This may be why reruns of the show are relatively rare.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western kids' shows to undergo CerebusSyndrome and experiment with world-building and story arcs. However, it's its heavy influence it has made it difficult for a new viewer to see what's so special about it. This may be why reruns of the show are relatively rare.it.
14th May '16 10:02:01 AM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' is an interesting example in that it's become this trope due to an entirely different medium. When it debuted back in 2005, its unique style of rapid-fire, witty humor and clever parodies of beloved pop culture icons simply couldn't be found in any other stop-motion animated show. The closest it resembled are the cutaway gag in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', which is an animated cartoon. To an extent, that's still true; to this day, nothing like it exists ''[[ExactWords on television]]''. However, it's spawned countless [[FollowTheLeader imitators]] on the Web, a good number of which manage to stand out even in comparison to the show they imitate (see ''[[WebAnimation/ASDFMovie asdfmovie]]'', ''WebAnimation/TheLazerCollection'', and ''WebAnimation/SonicShorts'' for a few examples), so for someone who started on one of those series and was then introduced to ''Robot Chicken'' later, it likely wouldn't come off as anything special.

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* ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' is an interesting example in that it's become this trope due to an entirely different medium. When it debuted back in 2005, its unique style of rapid-fire, witty humor and clever parodies of beloved pop culture icons simply couldn't be found in any other stop-motion animated show. The closest it resembled are the cutaway gag gags in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', which is an animated cartoon. To an extent, that's still true; to this day, nothing like it exists ''[[ExactWords on television]]''. However, it's spawned countless [[FollowTheLeader imitators]] on the Web, a good number of which manage to stand out even in comparison to the show they imitate (see ''[[WebAnimation/ASDFMovie asdfmovie]]'', ''WebAnimation/TheLazerCollection'', and ''WebAnimation/SonicShorts'' for a few examples), so for someone who started on one of those series and was then introduced to ''Robot Chicken'' later, it likely wouldn't come off as anything special.
14th May '16 10:01:32 AM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' debuted in the very early nineties, at a time when the AnimationAgeGhetto was still very strong, and ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' was just breaking through, while still remaining relatively family friendly. ''Beavis and Butthead'' on the other hand was shocking and caused a panic among the MoralGuardians, being one of only a very ''very'' few animated programs that didn't target children. Nowadays we have ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', the entire Creator/AdultSwim lineup, and countless other "Late Night Cartoons", to the point that ''Beavis and Butthead'' looks tame, and downright corny by comparison.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead'' debuted in the very early nineties, at a time when the AnimationAgeGhetto was still very strong, and ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' was just breaking through, while still remaining relatively family friendly. ''Beavis and Butthead'' on the other hand was shocking and caused a panic among the MoralGuardians, being one of only a very ''very'' few animated programs that didn't target children. Nowadays we have ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', the entire Creator/AdultSwim lineup, and countless other "Late Night Cartoons", to the point that ''Beavis and Butthead'' looks tame, and downright corny by comparison.
10th May '16 10:08:16 PM Odacon_Spy
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''WesternAnimation/MightyMouseTheNewAdventures'' suffers from this badly nowadays. It was a revolutionary show and concept for its day, and essentially served as a training ground for future animation pros today, and for bringing back cartoon animation in the vein of classic cartoons to the mainstream in TV. However, today, due to the success of all the shows created in it's wake, especially ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'''' most modern viewers might not find it revolutionary, not helped that the show had many production woes and animation and art mistakes (as attested by former staff, [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/09/wonky-2.html including]] Creator/JohnKricfalusi).

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* ''WesternAnimation/MightyMouseTheNewAdventures'' suffers from this badly nowadays. It was a revolutionary show and concept for its day, and essentially served as a training ground for future animation pros today, and for bringing back cartoon animation in the vein of classic cartoons to the mainstream in TV. However, today, due to the success of all the shows created in it's wake, especially ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'''' most modern viewers might not find it revolutionary, not helped that the show had many production woes and animation and art mistakes (as attested by former staff, [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/09/wonky-2.html including]] Creator/JohnKricfalusi).
6th May '16 5:21:47 PM grapesandmilk
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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Fantasia}}'': Would you believe that, after decades of music videos, the concept of this was novel? While it has been able to age well due to the VisualEffectsOfAwesome, the concept sounds entirely cliche with the availability of music videos on the internet.

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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Fantasia}}'': ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'': Would you believe that, after decades of music videos, the concept of this was novel? While it has been able to age well due to the VisualEffectsOfAwesome, the concept sounds entirely cliche with the availability of music videos on the internet.
1st May '16 2:55:35 PM WhatArtThee
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' was a huge leap forward in its depiction of action and drama in a superhero cartoon. While some episodes still hold up pretty well a modern audience may not be as impressed with it, given how much further superhero shows have come since then. A few of them ("I've Got Batman in My Basement" comes to mind) actually have more in common with the corny kiddie shows they were trying to replace than with the newer shows they inspired, and are now an OldShame to the animators.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' was a huge leap forward in its depiction of action and drama in a superhero cartoon. While some episodes still hold up pretty well a A modern audience audience, however, may not be as impressed with it, given how much further superhero shows have come in terms of darkness and drama since then. A few of them ("I've Got Batman in My Basement" comes to mind) actually have more in common with the corny kiddie shows they were trying to replace than with the newer shows they inspired, and are now an OldShame to the animators.



* ''WesternAnimation/MightyMouse: The New Adventures''. It was a revolutionary show and concept for its day, being a show where it was directed and written entirely by cartoonists (which was a very unique concept for cartoons of the time), and essentially served as a training ground for future animation pros today, and for bringing back cartoon animation in the vein of classic cartoons to the mainstream in TV (and, obviously, laying the groundwork for shows like Ren and Stimpy). Unfortunately, the actual production quality of the show has aged horribly, not helped that the show had many production woes, animation and art mistakes and sloppy execution (as attested by former staff, [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/09/wonky-2.html including]] Creator/JohnKricfalusi) and many of the jokes and satire will seem either tame or fly right over the heads of today's viewers.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MightyMouse: The New Adventures''. ''WesternAnimation/MightyMouseTheNewAdventures'' suffers from this badly nowadays. It was a revolutionary show and concept for its day, being a show where it was directed and written entirely by cartoonists (which was a very unique concept for cartoons of the time), and essentially served as a training ground for future animation pros today, and for bringing back cartoon animation in the vein of classic cartoons to the mainstream in TV (and, obviously, laying TV. However, today, due to the groundwork for success of all the shows like Ren and Stimpy). Unfortunately, the actual production quality of the show has aged horribly, created in it's wake, especially ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'''' most modern viewers might not find it revolutionary, not helped that the show had many production woes, woes and animation and art mistakes and sloppy execution (as attested by former staff, [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/09/wonky-2.html including]] Creator/JohnKricfalusi) and many of the jokes and satire will seem either tame or fly right over the heads of today's viewers.Creator/JohnKricfalusi).



* While ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' still holds up remarkably well, the graphics that were state of the art back in 1995 pale in comparison to what's being done today. The humans look [[UncannyValley almost as plastic as the toys]] (which is why they told a story where the main characters ''were'' toys), there's an airless quality to the outside scenes, and the animation is not as fluid and nuanced as what we see today. Not that the movie has now become unwatchable, far from it, but compare it to ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'' just four years later and the improvement is remarkable. And then compare ''that'' to ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' 11 years after, and you appreciate how much CGI has evolved in such a short time. Also, consider the fact that before ''Toy Story'', the number of fully computer-generated feature films was exactly zero, and it would be two more years before there was another such film. [[TechnologyMarchesOn With CGI so ubiquitous today]], it's hard to imagine how mindblowing an experience it was to see Woody and Buzz for the first time.

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* While ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' still holds up remarkably well, the ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'''s graphics that were state of the art back in 1995 1995, they pale in comparison to what's being done today. The humans look [[UncannyValley almost as plastic as the toys]] (which is why they told a story where the main characters ''were'' toys), there's an airless quality to the outside scenes, and the animation is not as fluid and nuanced as what we see today. Not that the movie has now become unwatchable, far from it, but compare it to ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'' just four years later and the improvement is remarkable. And then compare ''that'' to ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' 11 years after, and you appreciate how much CGI has evolved in such a short time. Also, consider the fact that before ''Toy Story'', the number of fully computer-generated feature films was exactly zero, and it would be two more years before there was another such film. [[TechnologyMarchesOn With CGI so ubiquitous today]], it's hard to imagine how mindblowing an experience it was to see Woody and Buzz for the first time.



* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western kids' shows to undergo CerebusSyndrome and experiment with world-building and story arcs. While it's aged a ''lot'' better than other examples here, it can be difficult for a new viewer to see what's so special about it. This may be why reruns of the show are relatively rare.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' was one of the first mainstream Western kids' shows to undergo CerebusSyndrome and experiment with world-building and story arcs. While However, it's aged a ''lot'' better than other examples here, heavy influence it can be has made it difficult for a new viewer to see what's so special about it. This may be why reruns of the show are relatively rare.
31st Mar '16 2:13:15 PM ianw1
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*** No surprise there, they were scored by Broadway musical duo AlanMenken and HowardAshman.
30th Mar '16 4:01:38 PM ading
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* ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' may seem typical and commonplace nowadays, but back in 2008, when the show had officially debuted (Having its sneak-peek initial episode in 2007), the show was really something. Its clever and frequent use of break-the-fourth-wall humor and pop culture references were attractive to audiences, especially considering that due to a low economy, cartoons like this were becoming extinct in favour of more live-action programming. Today, we have ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'', and ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', which [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar get crap past the radar]] frequently and have more continuity in their storylines, as well as character development, so if a viewer was introduced to ''Phineas and Ferb'' today, it wouldn't seem so impressive as it did back in its heyday.
22nd Mar '16 10:51:38 PM louisXVI
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** Creator/MattGroening wanted ''The Simpsons'' to have a unique feel compared to the cartoons around the time (namely Disney and Creator/HannaBarbera). So he decided that the show was to have cartoon characters obeying real life physics (meaning: no squash and plump, no wacky sounds while characters do things or exaggerated facial expressions). Nowadays, you can see that in a lot of other cartoons.

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** Creator/MattGroening wanted ''The Simpsons'' to have a unique feel compared to the cartoons around the time (namely Disney and Creator/HannaBarbera). So he decided that the show was to have cartoon characters obeying real life physics (meaning: no squash and plump, no wacky sounds while characters do things or exaggerated facial expressions). Nowadays, you can most cartoons with an all-human cast are similarly restrained. Indeed, these days it would be considered strange to see that "rubbery" humanoid characters in a lot of other cartoons. most cartoons, even most children's cartoons.
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