History SeasonalRot / LiveActionTV

28th Aug '16 5:37:40 PM brc2000
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* While the later seasons of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' are still well-received overall, some felt the the storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible (with elements such as a [[AbortedArc quickly abandoned]] storyline about accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA) in contrast to the quirky, but still generally down-to-earth and gritty tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the later seasons.

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* While the later last three seasons seasons of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' are still well-received overall, some felt the the storylines became increasingly outlandish bizarre and implausible (with elements such (such as a [[AbortedArc quickly abandoned]] storyline about accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA) in contrast to jarred with with the sometimes quirky, but still generally down-to-earth and gritty tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the later seasons.
28th Aug '16 5:08:32 PM brc2000
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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'', much like Buffy, is subject to a lot of argument over this. Many fans found Season 4 to be extremely hard-going, thanks to a Bait-and-Switch Villain, a hefty portion of {{Squick}}, and the continually annoying {{Wangst}} of Connor. Summed up nicely by Gunn's description of the season thus far as "a supernatural soap-opera." Nearly everyone agrees that Season 4 was a nadir, but opinion is divided on whether the show improved when Season 5 came around.

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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'', much like Buffy, is subject to a lot of argument over this. Many fans found Season 4 to be extremely hard-going, thanks to a [[BaitAndSwitchBoss Bait-and-Switch Villain, Villain]], a hefty portion of {{Squick}}, and the continually annoying {{Wangst}} of Connor. Summed up nicely by Gunn's description of the season thus far as "a supernatural soap-opera." Nearly everyone agrees that Season 4 was a nadir, but opinion is divided on whether the show improved when Season 5 came around.
28th Aug '16 5:00:42 PM brc2000
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* While the later seasons of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' are still well-received overall, some felt that the storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible, with elements such as accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA. This was in contrast to the quirky, but still generally down-to-earth tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the later seasons.

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* While the later seasons of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' are still well-received overall, some felt that the the storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible, with implausible (with elements such as a [[AbortedArc quickly abandoned]] storyline about accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA. This was NBA) in contrast to the quirky, but still generally down-to-earth and gritty tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the later seasons.
28th Aug '16 3:36:12 PM brc2000
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* While not every fan of the prison drama ''Series/{{Oz}}'' agrees that the final three seasons were the worst, it's hard to argue against the fact that storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible during the show's final years, which involved, among other things, accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA. This was in contrast to the sometimes quirky, but still generally realistic tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the later seasons.

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* While not every fan of the prison drama later seasons of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' agrees are still well-received overall, some felt that the final three seasons were the worst, it's hard to argue against the fact that storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible during the show's final years, which involved, among other things, implausible, with elements such as accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA. This was in contrast to the sometimes quirky, but still generally realistic down-to-earth tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the later seasons.
28th Aug '16 3:15:39 PM brc2000
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* While not every fan of the prison drama ''Series/{{Oz}}'' agrees that the final two seasons were the worst, it's hard to argue against the fact that storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible during the show's final years, which involved, among other things, accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA. This all in stark contrast to the gritty realism of the show's early seasons.

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* While not every fan of the prison drama ''Series/{{Oz}}'' agrees that the final two three seasons were the worst, it's hard to argue against the fact that storylines became increasingly outlandish and implausible during the show's final years, which involved, among other things, accelerated aging drugs, a dog-training program in a maximum security prison and a prison guard being signed by the NBA. This all was in stark contrast to the gritty realism sometimes quirky, but still generally realistic tone set in earlier seasons. The loss of [[spoiler:fan-favorite Adebisi]] is also used as an argument against the show's early later seasons.
23rd Aug '16 12:17:56 PM AngeloftheMorning
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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}''
** General consensus amongst fans and critics alike is that Season 3 became this compared to the first two seasons which got consistently better in quality. The season began contentious when [[spoiler:Sara Lance]] was [[DroppedABridgeOnHim anticlimactically killed off]] in order to [[StuffedInTheFridge prop up Laurel's character development]] [[spoiler: into becoming the Black Canary]] ''in the first episode'' and was then followed up by trying to {{Ron The Death Eater}} her InUniverse [[spoiler: in order to make Laurel seem more worthy as the Canary]]. Then you have a pretty controversial take on [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ray Palmer]] who many people felt [[spoiler: was just being used as a cheap IronMan rip off as opposed to his actual power set in the regular DC Universe]] and adding unnecessary drama to the Oliver/Felicity relationship (more on that later) by adding a LoveTriangle to the mix. Next you have Malcolm Merlyn becoming a full blown VillainSue this season who, [[spoiler: despite orchestrating Sara's death]], in order to start a war between Team Arrow and the League of Assassins not only [[KarmaHoudini gets away scot free]] in the end [[spoiler: but managed to become the next ComicBook/RasAlGhul in the process]]. The League of Assassins plot also became criticised once Ra's Al-Ghul [[spoiler: decided to make Oliver his heir]] which only further fuelled the fire that Ollie is a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute stand in]] for Batman. The once [[FanPreferredCouple beloved Oliver/Felicity pairing]] became very contentious amongst fans not only for the large amount of unnecessary drama added in but also for the, at times, [[DesignatedHero unsympathetic portrayals of both characters]] [[RomanticPlotTumor which for a lot of fans killed the ship]]. Finally you have the Season Finale which many people felt lacked a lot of tension the previous ones had and the [[spoiler: [[AnticlimaxBoss anticlimactic death of Ra's Al Ghul]]]], who many people felt was defeated absurdly easily compared to [[WhamEpisode his first duel with Oliver in The Climb]], then you can see why many fans felt ''Series/TheFlash2014'' was the [[MorePopularSpinoff superior show]] this season.
** According to most fans, Season 4 is even worse than Season 3. Everything, including the fight choreography, has decayed significantly, and so much focus has been put on Felicity that many state that Oliver has become a supporting character on his show and that it should be renamed ''Felicity''. The relationship drama is even worse than last season [[spoiler:thanks to the introduction of Oliver's illegitimate son William]] and inconsistent characterization, eventually overtaking the plot. The last straw for many was when they killed off [[spoiler:Laurel Lance, aka the Black Canary, aka Green Arrow's ''comics love interest'']] and used this character's last moments to ship Olicity. For others, it was the completely underwhelming Season 4 finale, nigh undisputably considered to be the worst in the entire show, even more so than Season 3's. Many have compared this season to a badly written romance FanFiction with Felicity as the MarySue protagonist. In fact, Season 4 was so bad that after the finale the ''Arrow'' [[Website/{{Reddit}} subreddit]] went into a complete meltdown and converted into a ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' subreddit until the next season came out, including replacing the banners and placing the ''Daredevil'' logo on top of the ''Arrow'' logo for its subreddit link.
21st Aug '16 11:42:12 AM Twentington
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** The later Barker seasons as well: the hideous "Hollywood set" was used for a few seasons and clashed with everything; the aging Bob was continuing to have senior moments; more and more contestants were playing the WhatAnIdiot card, seemingly for 15 minutes of fame; and Rod's death in 2003 led to a succession of mostly-mediocre to awful announcers (Daniel Rosen, who had [[DullSurprise no enthusiasm at all]] and supposedly {{astro turf}}ed a fan forum with praise for his announcing, being considered the nadir). Also, many fans disliked the fact that Rich Fields was chosen to be the new announcer over Randy West or Burton Richardson, either of whom seemed far more qualified for the job (both of them had filled in for Rod in the past when he was undergoing cancer treatments; both of them had worked on several other game shows [Burton even did the short-lived 1994 nighttime version of ''Price'']; Randy was a close friend of Johnny Olson). Of the other candidates who filled in after Rod's death, only one ever even did another game show: Jim Thornton, who took over on ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' in 2011.

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** The later Barker seasons as well: the hideous "Hollywood set" was used for a few seasons and clashed with everything; the aging Bob was continuing to have senior moments; more and more contestants were playing the WhatAnIdiot card, seemingly for 15 minutes of fame; and Rod's death in 2003 led to a succession of mostly-mediocre to awful announcers (Daniel Rosen, who had [[DullSurprise no enthusiasm at all]] all and supposedly {{astro turf}}ed a fan forum with praise for his announcing, being considered the nadir). Also, many fans disliked the fact that Rich Fields was chosen to be the new announcer over Randy West or Burton Richardson, either of whom seemed far more qualified for the job (both of them had filled in for Rod in the past when he was undergoing cancer treatments; both of them had worked on several other game shows [Burton even did the short-lived 1994 nighttime version of ''Price'']; Randy was a close friend of Johnny Olson). Of the other candidates who filled in after Rod's death, only one ever even did another game show: Jim Thornton, who took over on ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' in 2011.
21st Aug '16 11:41:50 AM Twentington
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** For Season 18, host Bob Barker on some episodes looked lost and likely was bored, and there were backstage issues beginning to crop up with the staff (most prominently [[TheAnnouncer Rod Roddy]] and model Holly Halstrom). This also seems to be the point that the staleness and "phoned in" nature of the show in the 1990s began, not at all helped by Rod's health problems making his announcing a lot less enthusiastic. It also didn't help that throughout the 90s, the show continued to cling to outdated game show technology such as trilons and eggcrate displays, even as all of its contemporaries were freshening up and modernizing their sets.
** The later Barker seasons as well: the hideous "Hollywood set" was used for a few seasons and clashed with everything; the aging Bob was continuing to have senior moments; more and more contestants were playing the WhatAnIdiot card, seemingly for 15 minutes of fame; and Rod's death in 2003 led to a succession of mostly-mediocre to awful announcers (Daniel Rosen, who had no enthusiasm at all and supposedly {{astro turf}}ed a fan forum with praise for his announcing, being considered the nadir). Also, many fans disliked the fact that Rich Fields was chosen to be the new announcer over Randy West or Burton Richardson, either of whom seemed far more qualified for the job (both of them had filled in for Rod in the past when he was undergoing cancer treatments; both of them had worked on several other game shows [Burton even did the short-lived 1994 nighttime version of ''Price'']; Randy was a close friend of Johnny Olson). Of the other candidates who filled in after Rod's death, only one ever even did another game show: Jim Thornton, who took over on ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' in 2011.

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** For Season 18, host Bob Barker on some episodes looked lost and likely was bored, and there while his ego was swelling after he became executive producer. There were backstage issues beginning to crop up with the staff (most prominently [[TheAnnouncer Rod Roddy]] and model Holly Halstrom). This also seems to be the point that the staleness and "phoned in" nature of the show in the 1990s began, not at all helped by Rod's health problems making his announcing a lot less enthusiastic. It also didn't help that throughout the 90s, the show continued to cling to outdated game show technology such as trilons and eggcrate displays, even as all of its contemporaries were freshening up and modernizing their sets.
** The later Barker seasons as well: the hideous "Hollywood set" was used for a few seasons and clashed with everything; the aging Bob was continuing to have senior moments; more and more contestants were playing the WhatAnIdiot card, seemingly for 15 minutes of fame; and Rod's death in 2003 led to a succession of mostly-mediocre to awful announcers (Daniel Rosen, who had [[DullSurprise no enthusiasm at all all]] and supposedly {{astro turf}}ed a fan forum with praise for his announcing, being considered the nadir). Also, many fans disliked the fact that Rich Fields was chosen to be the new announcer over Randy West or Burton Richardson, either of whom seemed far more qualified for the job (both of them had filled in for Rod in the past when he was undergoing cancer treatments; both of them had worked on several other game shows [Burton even did the short-lived 1994 nighttime version of ''Price'']; Randy was a close friend of Johnny Olson). Of the other candidates who filled in after Rod's death, only one ever even did another game show: Jim Thornton, who took over on ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' in 2011.
20th Aug '16 1:17:57 PM Twentington
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** For Season 18, host Bob Barker on some episodes looked lost and likely was bored, and there were backstage issues beginning to crop up with the staff. This also seems to be the point that the staleness and "phoned in" nature of the show in the 1990s began, not at all helped by then-announcer Rod Roddy's health problems making his announcing a lot less enthusiastic.
** Season 37, the second hosted by Drew Carey. It added a lot of oddball Showcases that often demeaned Rod's successor, Rich Fields (to Drew's credit, he later admitted that the sketches didn't work), Rich became incredibly [[NoIndoorVoice over-the-top]], the pricing games' difficulty spiked (though that one can be blamed on the show '''having''' to do so when one showcase was won to the exact dollar due to a predictable prize pool), pricing games [[PutOnABus vanished without a trace]], bizarre prizes began showing up, several infamous special guest appearances began, and several other higher-ups disappeared for various reasons. However, the show soon got over the growing pains of a new host and, while some still don't like the Carey era, complaints about it have subsided somewhat.

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** For Season 18, host Bob Barker on some episodes looked lost and likely was bored, and there were backstage issues beginning to crop up with the staff. staff (most prominently [[TheAnnouncer Rod Roddy]] and model Holly Halstrom). This also seems to be the point that the staleness and "phoned in" nature of the show in the 1990s began, not at all helped by then-announcer Rod Roddy's Rod's health problems making his announcing a lot less enthusiastic.
enthusiastic. It also didn't help that throughout the 90s, the show continued to cling to outdated game show technology such as trilons and eggcrate displays, even as all of its contemporaries were freshening up and modernizing their sets.
** The later Barker seasons as well: the hideous "Hollywood set" was used for a few seasons and clashed with everything; the aging Bob was continuing to have senior moments; more and more contestants were playing the WhatAnIdiot card, seemingly for 15 minutes of fame; and Rod's death in 2003 led to a succession of mostly-mediocre to awful announcers (Daniel Rosen, who had no enthusiasm at all and supposedly {{astro turf}}ed a fan forum with praise for his announcing, being considered the nadir). Also, many fans disliked the fact that Rich Fields was chosen to be the new announcer over Randy West or Burton Richardson, either of whom seemed far more qualified for the job (both of them had filled in for Rod in the past when he was undergoing cancer treatments; both of them had worked on several other game shows [Burton even did the short-lived 1994 nighttime version of ''Price'']; Randy was a close friend of Johnny Olson). Of the other candidates who filled in after Rod's death, only one ever even did another game show: Jim Thornton, who took over on ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' in 2011.
** Season 37, the second hosted by Drew Carey. It added a lot of oddball Showcases that often demeaned Rod's successor, Rich Fields (to Drew's credit, he later admitted that the sketches didn't work), Rich became incredibly [[NoIndoorVoice over-the-top]], the pricing games' difficulty spiked (though that one can be blamed on the show '''having''' to do so when one showcase was won to the exact dollar due to a predictable prize pool), pricing games [[PutOnABus vanished without a trace]], bizarre prizes began showing up, several infamous special guest appearances began, and several other higher-ups disappeared for various reasons. However, the show soon got over the growing pains of a new host and, while some still don't like the Carey era, complaints about it have subsided somewhat.
12th Aug '16 5:55:38 PM J79
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* "YouCantDoThatOnTelevision"'s final season (1989-90) is this to some fans, with a whole new cast of kids and an increase in "gross-out" humor.
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