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* All Creator/IrwinAllen series. Each one starts off with an interesting premise, a serious tone and good production values, but by season three the cast is fighting giant carrots. Fans have long noted that the quality of his series is inversely proportional to how long they lasted - ''Series/VoyageToTheBottomOfTheSea'' managed four seasons and by the end most episodes practically had chorus lines of [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment big lipped alligators]]; ''Series/LostInSpace'' went for three and was transitioning from campy to bad by the end, while ''Series/LandOfTheGiants'' lasted two and stayed SoBadItsGood. ''Series/TheTimeTunnel'', which got canned after just one year, was only beginning to show signs of decay by the end of its run.

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* All Creator/IrwinAllen series. Each one starts off with an interesting premise, a serious tone and good production values, but by season three the cast is fighting giant carrots. Fans have long noted that the quality of his series is inversely proportional to how long they lasted - -- ''Series/VoyageToTheBottomOfTheSea'' managed four seasons and by the end most episodes practically had chorus lines of [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment big lipped alligators]]; ''Series/LostInSpace'' went for three and was transitioning from campy to bad by the end, while ''Series/LandOfTheGiants'' lasted two and stayed SoBadItsGood. ''Series/TheTimeTunnel'', which got canned after just one year, was only beginning to show signs of decay by the end of its run.



** A lengthy gap after Series 7, during which the cast members became involved in other projects - including a two-series spinoff in which Mr. Humphries (still portrayed by John Inman) was transferred without much explanation to an Australian department store called Bone Brothers.

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** A lengthy gap after Series 7, during which the cast members became involved in other projects - -- including a two-series spinoff in which Mr. Humphries (still portrayed by John Inman) was transferred without much explanation to an Australian department store called Bone Brothers.



** Odd and offensive shifts in the show's humor - "Roots?" is notorious for featuring the cast in a blackface routine (thus preventing it from airing on many PBS stations), and "The Erotic Dreams of Mrs. Slocombe" features not only a heavy-handed storyline about Mrs. Slocombe's alcoholism, but a completely out of character ending in which a horny Mr. Humphries suddenly wrestles Miss Brahms to the floor.

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** Odd and offensive shifts in the show's humor - -- "Roots?" is notorious for featuring the cast in a blackface routine (thus preventing it from airing on many PBS stations), and "The Erotic Dreams of Mrs. Slocombe" features not only a heavy-handed storyline about Mrs. Slocombe's alcoholism, but a completely out of character ending in which a horny Mr. Humphries suddenly wrestles Miss Brahms to the floor.



** Season 7 likewise gets a lot of flak when compared to what came before. While it doesn't have as much in it that ''angered'' fans like Season 6 did (what with the dissolution of Xander/Anya, Willow's addiction to magic, and the near-rape of Buffy), it also lacks a lot of the highs that that season managed ("Once More, With Feeling", "Tabula Rasa", the final arc with Willow's HeelFaceTurn). Season 7's greatest offering is "Conversations with Dead People", but other than that, the entire run of episodes is spent preparing for a fight with the BigBad. This provides the season with a lot of weariness, as there are far fewer lighthearted episodes to offer levity, and the BigBad itself was rather uninteresting (being little more than an incarnation of evil). Its [[TheDragon Dragon]] Caleb had potential but is introduced far too late and killed off far too quickly to be among the show's most memorable villains. The Potentials had a mixed reaction: Individual characters were liked by some and hated by others, but either way giving Buffy a mostly non-speaking RedShirtArmy resulted in long-standing characters being pushed to the sidelines. There are, however, a number of decent episodes like "Same Time, Same Place", "First Date" and the Spike character piece "Lies My Parents Told Me".

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** Season 7 likewise gets a lot of flak when compared to what came before. While it doesn't have as much in it that ''angered'' fans like Season 6 did (what with the dissolution of Xander/Anya, Willow's addiction to magic, and the near-rape of Buffy), it also lacks a lot of the highs that that season Season 6 managed ("Once More, With Feeling", "Tabula Rasa", the final arc with Willow's HeelFaceTurn). Season 7's greatest offering is "Conversations with Dead People", but other than that, the entire run of episodes is spent preparing for a fight with the BigBad. This provides the season with a lot of weariness, as there are far fewer lighthearted episodes to offer levity, and the BigBad itself was rather uninteresting (being little more than an incarnation of evil). Its [[TheDragon Dragon]] Caleb had potential but is introduced far too late and killed off far too quickly to be among the show's most memorable villains. The Potentials had a mixed reaction: Individual characters were liked by some and hated by others, but either way giving Buffy a mostly non-speaking RedShirtArmy resulted in long-standing characters being pushed to the sidelines. There are, however, a number of decent episodes like "Same Time, Same Place", "First Date" and the Spike character piece "Lies My Parents Told Me".



** An in-universe example of this trope - according to the interview in the real-life Nikki Heat novel ''Heat Wave'' - is why Castle killed off Derrick Storm before the start of the show. According to him, he'd grown to know the character too well and couldn't think up any surprises, so he had Derrick go out with a bang rather than inflict "the slow death of literary mediocrity".

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** An in-universe example of this trope - -- according to the interview in the real-life Nikki Heat novel ''Heat Wave'' - -- is why Castle killed off Derrick Storm before the start of the show. According to him, he'd grown to know the character too well and couldn't think up any surprises, so he had Derrick go out with a bang rather than inflict "the slow death of literary mediocrity".



** Season 6 is polarizing - some despised it for the Piper/Leo drama, the too light and childish storylines and continued awful characterisation of Phoebe, while others loved it for returning to the arc-based storytellng, having future Chris, and an epic two-parter finale.

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** Season 6 is polarizing - -- some despised it for the Piper/Leo drama, the too light and childish storylines and continued awful characterisation of Phoebe, while others loved it for returning to the arc-based storytellng, having future Chris, and an epic two-parter finale.



* ''Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman'' was the first Sentai series to really suffer from this, and it [[FranchiseKiller almost proved fatal]] - [[http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2016/06/fact-checked-did-carranger-save-sentai/ as noted here]], the series was seen as very stale amongst fans, and ratings were some of the worst at the time[[note]]''Flashman'', the 4th highest rated Sentai, had average ratings of 12.29%; ''Fiveman'' had average ratings of 6.49%[[/note]]. The staleness was attributed to head writer Hirohisa Soda, who had been in charge since ''Series/DaiSentaiGoggleV'', having seemingly been burned out[[note]]although some fans would argue that it began with ''Series/KousokuSentaiTurboranger'', it's generally agreed that he was fully burned out by the time of ''Fiveman''[[/note]] by the time he began writing ''Fiveman''. Low ratings, in combination with poor toy sales, would have led Toei to pull the plug on the franchise...had it not been for the success of the next series, ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman''[[note]]although later series would end up having lower ratings - most notably ''Ohranger'' - toy sales in those series have generally offset the low ratings[[/note]].

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* ''Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman'' was the first Sentai series to really suffer from this, and it [[FranchiseKiller almost proved fatal]] - -- [[http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2016/06/fact-checked-did-carranger-save-sentai/ as noted here]], the series was seen as very stale amongst fans, and ratings were some of the worst at the time[[note]]''Flashman'', the 4th highest rated Sentai, had average ratings of 12.29%; ''Fiveman'' had average ratings of 6.49%[[/note]]. The staleness was attributed to head writer Hirohisa Soda, who had been in charge since ''Series/DaiSentaiGoggleV'', having seemingly been burned out[[note]]although some fans would argue that it began with ''Series/KousokuSentaiTurboranger'', it's generally agreed that he was fully burned out by the time of ''Fiveman''[[/note]] by the time he began writing ''Fiveman''. Low ratings, in combination with poor toy sales, would have led Toei to pull the plug on the franchise...had it not been for the success of the next series, ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman''[[note]]although later series would end up having lower ratings - -- most notably ''Ohranger'' - -- toy sales in those series have generally offset the low ratings[[/note]].



** While Season 6 has its detractors, most consider it to be closer to the quality of the first four seasons than the fifth (particularly the last couple of episodes). Season 7, however, received criticism for [[TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot supersonic ravens]] and [[OffscreenTeleportation fast travel]] (as compared to earlier seasons, which established the scope of the world by sometimes have characters take entire ''seasons'' to traverse one kingdom), the increasingly [[IdiotPlot illogical decisions and strategies of smart characters]] (chief among them being Tyrion/Jon's "capture a wight" plan and the Sansa-Arya conflict), and a general fear that the character-driven narrative was being cast aside in favor of {{Visual Effects of Awesome}}. While the acting and effects are generally agreed to be very good, the season itself sapped the enthusiasm of some viewers for the next and final season, while other viewers are some fans who [[BrokenBase prefer the faster pace and greater emphasis on visuals]].

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** While Season 6 has its detractors, most consider it to be closer to the quality of the first four seasons than the fifth (particularly the last couple of episodes). Season 7, however, received criticism for [[TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot supersonic ravens]] and [[OffscreenTeleportation fast travel]] (as compared to earlier seasons, which established the scope of the world by sometimes have characters take entire ''seasons'' to traverse one kingdom), the increasingly [[IdiotPlot illogical decisions and strategies of smart characters]] (chief among them being Tyrion/Jon's "capture a wight" plan and the Sansa-Arya conflict), and a general fear that the character-driven narrative was being cast aside in favor of {{Visual Effects of Awesome}}. While the acting and effects are generally agreed to be very good, the season itself sapped the enthusiasm of some viewers for the next and final season, while other viewers are some fans who [[BrokenBase prefer the faster pace and greater emphasis on visuals]].of the narrative]].



* Many fans would agree that ''Series/{{Glee}}'', a once-promising show, showed a steep decline. Part of the problem was that around the time of Season 2, ''Glee'' was at an all-time high for its popularity to the point where it ended up displacing ''Series/AmericanIdol'' as Fox's flagship series and AdoredByTheNetwork started to kick in full force. With the aforementioned decline in quality of the plots, by the third season, ratings began to tank so rapidly that by the end, they were actually lower than the ''first season's.'' By the time Season 4 premiered, Fox caught on to the declining popularity and moved the series onto Thursday nights.

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* Many fans would agree viewers think that ''Series/{{Glee}}'', a once-promising once-clever and promising show, showed a steep decline. Part of the problem was that around the time of Season 2, ''Glee'' was at an all-time high for its popularity to the point where it ended up displacing ''Series/AmericanIdol'' as Fox's flagship series and AdoredByTheNetwork started to kick in full force. With the aforementioned decline in quality of the plots, by the third season, ratings began to tank so rapidly that by the end, they were actually lower than the ''first season's.'' By the time Season 4 premiered, Fox caught on to the declining popularity and moved the series onto Thursday nights.



** Season 5vattempted to rectify this by dropping Lima altogether and moving more of the original kids to New York, but the damage has been done, and Season 6 was the show's last (the death of Cory Monteith is another reason).

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** Season 5vattempted 5 attempted to rectify this by dropping Lima altogether and moving more of the original kids to New York, but the damage has been done, and Season 6 was the show's last (the death of Cory Monteith is another reason).



** The 20th season (1994-1995) also stands out as particularly bad. Between Phil Hartman's departure, the popularity of the O.J. Simpson murder trial (which ''SNL'' repeatedly wrote sketches about during this time -- when it didn't write sketches laden with HoYay or {{Overly Long Gag}}s disguised as sketches with some semblance of a plot), and cast and crew tensions backstage (particularly with Creator/JaneaneGarofalo, who hated the juvenile humor of the show and left mid-season), it's really not hard to see why some critics and fans have compared season 20 with Season 6 in terms of sheer unwatchability. (That said, like Season 11, Weekend Update was considered a bright spot in an otherwise messy season - this time, with Norm [=MacDonald=] as the anchor, though even Weekend Update suffered from being weak and repetitive just like the rest of Season 20.)

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** The 20th season (1994-1995) also stands out as particularly bad. Between Phil Hartman's departure, the popularity of the O.J. Simpson murder trial (which ''SNL'' repeatedly wrote sketches about during this time -- when it didn't write sketches laden with HoYay or {{Overly Long Gag}}s disguised as sketches with some semblance of a plot), and cast and crew tensions backstage (particularly with Creator/JaneaneGarofalo, who hated the juvenile humor of the show and left mid-season), it's really not hard to see why some critics and fans have compared season 20 with Season 6 in terms of sheer unwatchability. (That said, like Season 11, Weekend Update was considered a bright spot in an otherwise messy season - -- this time, with Norm [=MacDonald=] as the anchor, though even Weekend Update suffered from being weak and repetitive just like the rest of Season 20.)



** When seasonal rot ''completely'' set in is a matter of [[FlameWar polite disagreement]]. Seasons 1-2 are considered the golden age, and despite {{Flanderization}} and CharacterizationMarchesOn, as well as the frustrating [[WillTheyOrWontThey love triangle]] - not to mention [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking Tara Reid]] - Season 3 contains the highest-rated episode of the series. Seasons 4 and 5 both contain universally acclaimed ''episodes'', but whether the rot began and took over then is [[InternetBackdraft not a question you want to ask]]. Seasons 6 onward, however, are definitively this trope, with 7 (when the show was UnCanceled) more or less ignored by what remained of the fandom. ExecutiveMeddling with episode ordering and the [[TVStrikes 2007 WGA Strike]]. Season 8 was a return to form, but the series finale left a bunch of unanswered questions, mostly surrounding JD's relationship with Kim and his resignation from Sacred Heart.

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** When seasonal rot ''completely'' set in is a matter of [[FlameWar polite disagreement]]. Seasons 1-2 are considered the golden age, and despite {{Flanderization}} and CharacterizationMarchesOn, as well as the frustrating [[WillTheyOrWontThey love triangle]] - -- not to mention [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking Tara Reid]] - -- Season 3 contains the highest-rated episode of the series. Seasons 4 and 5 both contain universally acclaimed ''episodes'', but whether the rot began and took over then is [[InternetBackdraft not a question you want to ask]]. Seasons 6 onward, however, are definitively this trope, with 7 (when the show was UnCanceled) more or less ignored by what remained of the fandom. ExecutiveMeddling with episode ordering and the [[TVStrikes 2007 WGA Strike]]. Season 8 was a return to form, but the series finale left a bunch of unanswered questions, mostly surrounding JD's relationship with Kim and his resignation from Sacred Heart.



* Series 4 of ''Series/{{Skins}}'' is considered by nearly all fans and critics to be the worst series so far - the debate is over whether it was wholly bad or whether there were some good episodes in the middle to make up for the way the series started and (especially) ended.
** Series 6 had even bigger complaints. There was a [[DependingOnTheWriter change in head writers]], and it's clear that the concept for most of the characters completely changed as a result. In particular, there seemed to be a desire to bring back older plots - the TeenPregnancy from Series 2, or similarities between Frankie's Series 6 CharacterDevelopment and Effy - that alienated viewers.

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* Series 4 of ''Series/{{Skins}}'' is considered by nearly all fans and critics to be the worst series so far - -- the debate is over whether it was wholly bad or whether there were some good episodes in the middle to make up for the way the series started and (especially) ended.
** Series 6 had even bigger complaints. There was a [[DependingOnTheWriter change in head writers]], and it's clear that the concept for most of the characters completely changed as a result. In particular, there seemed to be a desire to bring back older plots - -- the TeenPregnancy from Series 2, or similarities between Frankie's Series 6 CharacterDevelopment and Effy - -- that alienated viewers.



** This was downplayed in Season 3a, but suffered issues largely due to casting. Erica (Gage Golightly) and Jackson (Colton Haynes) left in the break between Seasons 2 and 3, forcing the writers to hastily rewrite the storylines they had planned, while Boyd was abruptly killed off without much explanation. Erica's role was largely shifted to Cora, who didn't resonate with the fans and the writers [[PutOnABus Put Her On a Bus]] at the end of 3a. Twin werewolves Ethan and Aiden in the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Alpha Pack]] were [[TheScrappy hated]], seemingly existing purely for {{Fanservice}}. There were also complaints that the resolution suffered from plotholes, rushed writing and was a retread of Season 2. However that said, there were some popular aspects, such as Lydia discovering her banshee powers, a more united core of TrueCompanions rather than them being at odds with each other, greater focus on fan-favorites Danny and Isaac, "Motel California" which is generally considered one of the best episodes in the whole series, Scott' mom - and later Stiles's Dad - knowing the truth about the supernatural, and Allison being more level-headed after her break down in Season 2. The show also got back on its feet in 3b, with better storytelling and the much-liked [[spoiler: Evil Stiles]] plotline.
** However, in Season 4 the show hits this trope hard. Again, the casting made it an uphill battle from the start with Crystal Reed's quitting the show leading to Allison being KilledOffForReal in the penultimate episode of 3b and another ''four'' major characters, Danny, Ethan, Aiden and Isaac - the last being especially painful since he had been an EnsembleDarkhorse - were PutOnABus when their actors declined to return for Season 4. In the season itself, the traumatic events of 3b with Allison's death and Stiles's possession are brushed over and barely mentioned which angered a lot of fans, [[BaseBreakingCharacter Malia]] was abruptly added to the cast, which caused a myriad of issues, including a poor explanation of how she could adapt to being human after living as a coyote for years, the fact 3b left it ambiguous of whether she was a villain or not, a StrangledByTheRedString romance with Stiles, and meant older characters Derek and Lydia got less focus than previous seasons, while other newcomer Kira was largely defined by her romance with Scott. The overall arc lacked a consistent plotline and was filled with [[{{Filler}} Filler Episodes]] and Scott's incompetent mentoring of Liam, while the secret villain team up between Peter and Kate was established early on in the season leaving next to no mystery apart from a horribly lackluster, illogical revelation Meredith was involved as well. The sharp plummet in overall ratings and viewership for Season 4 shows that the rot may be long-term and has now leeched into subsequent seasons as well.

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** This was downplayed in Season 3a, but suffered issues largely due to casting. Erica (Gage Golightly) and Jackson (Colton Haynes) left in the break between Seasons 2 and 3, forcing the writers to hastily rewrite the storylines they had planned, while Boyd was abruptly killed off without much explanation. Erica's role was largely shifted to Cora, who didn't resonate with the fans and the writers [[PutOnABus Put Her On a Bus]] at the end of 3a. Twin werewolves Ethan and Aiden in the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Alpha Pack]] were [[TheScrappy hated]], seemingly existing purely for {{Fanservice}}. There were also complaints that the resolution suffered from plotholes, rushed writing and was a retread of Season 2. However that said, there were some popular aspects, such as Lydia discovering her banshee powers, a more united core of TrueCompanions rather than them being at odds with each other, greater focus on fan-favorites Danny and Isaac, "Motel California" which is generally considered one of the best episodes in the whole series, Scott' mom - -- and later Stiles's Dad - -- knowing the truth about the supernatural, and Allison being more level-headed after her break down in Season 2. The show also got back on its feet in 3b, with better storytelling and the much-liked [[spoiler: Evil Stiles]] plotline.
** However, in Season 4 the show hits this trope hard. Again, the casting made it an uphill battle from the start with Crystal Reed's quitting the show leading to Allison being KilledOffForReal in the penultimate episode of 3b and another ''four'' major characters, Danny, Ethan, Aiden and Isaac - -- the last being especially painful since he had been an EnsembleDarkhorse - -- were PutOnABus when their actors declined to return for Season 4. In the season itself, the traumatic events of 3b with Allison's death and Stiles's possession are brushed over and barely mentioned which angered a lot of fans, [[BaseBreakingCharacter Malia]] was abruptly added to the cast, which caused a myriad of issues, including a poor explanation of how she could adapt to being human after living as a coyote for years, the fact 3b left it ambiguous of whether she was a villain or not, a StrangledByTheRedString romance with Stiles, and meant older characters Derek and Lydia got less focus than previous seasons, while other another newcomer Kira was largely defined by her romance with Scott. The overall arc lacked a consistent plotline and was filled with [[{{Filler}} Filler Episodes]] and Scott's incompetent mentoring of Liam, while the secret villain team up between Peter and Kate was established early on in the season leaving next to no mystery apart from a horribly lackluster, illogical revelation Meredith was involved as well. The sharp plummet in overall ratings and viewership for Season 4 shows that the rot may be long-term and has now leeched into subsequent seasons as well.



** It's also one of the rare cases of Seasonal Rot to have a noticeable enough impact on ratings to cause a full-on schedule change: Season 10 saw the show moving from its top-dog 9 PM Monday slot (being taken over by surprise hit ''Series/TwoBrokeGirls'') into 8:30 PM Thurdsay, now playing second-fiddle to ''Series/TheBigBangTheory''.
** Season 11 introduced [[CousinOliver Charlie's long lost daughter]]. While the fact that she was Charlie's daughter was reason enough for her to start living at the house, she was mostly only involved in plot lines concerning Walden and in Season 12 she made very few appearances.

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** It's also one of the rare cases of Seasonal Rot to have a noticeable enough impact on ratings to cause a full-on schedule change: Season 10 saw the show moving from its top-dog 9 PM Monday slot (being taken over by surprise hit ''Series/TwoBrokeGirls'') into 8:30 PM Thurdsay, Thursday, now playing second-fiddle to ''Series/TheBigBangTheory''.
** Season 11 introduced [[CousinOliver Charlie's long lost long-lost daughter]]. While the fact that she was Charlie's daughter was reason enough for her to start living at the house, she was mostly only involved in plot lines concerning Walden and in Season 12 she made very few appearances.



* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'': Despite being more popular than its parent series ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', which for reference got better as it went along, Xena seems to have peaked in season 3. Four is considered a let down compared to the previous season and season 5, to put it bluntly, was not liked, due to a lack of action[[note]]Lucy Lawless was pregnant at the time season 5 was filmed (which was worked into the show), which greatly limited the actions she could perform[[/note]] and the infamous "Twilight of The Gods" arc, which is considered by some to be one of the worst story lines in TV history. Season 6 is seen as a modest improvement, although fans are split on how the series ends.

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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'': Despite being more popular than its parent series ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', which for reference got better as it went along, Xena seems to have peaked in season 3. Four is considered a let down compared to the previous season and season 5, to put it bluntly, was not liked, due to a lack of action[[note]]Lucy Lawless was pregnant at the time season 5 was filmed (which was worked into the show), which greatly limited the actions she could perform[[/note]] and the infamous "Twilight of The Gods" arc, which is considered by some to be one of the worst story lines storylines in TV history. Season 6 is seen as a modest improvement, although fans are split on how the series ends.
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Season 4, when Dan Harmon out as showrunner many think the creative energy left with him, with episodes relying more on fan-service and increasingly exaggerated plots and characterizations. Season 5 seemed to [[GrowingTheBeard grow the beard]] again, however, thanks to the return of Harmon and fresher, more dynamic episodes. However, both Seasons 5 and 6 also have their detractors (particularly Season 6, which - following the show's move to a purely online model after being taken over by Yahoo - had some changes to the format which took some getting used to), and it's widely argued that even after Harmon came back, something was still missing - probably Pierce, Troy, and Shirley. It's also often argued that, in part due to the behind-the-scenes issues mentioned above, the show stayed within the "community college" setting long after it had passed its sell-by date, with the result that the remaining characters seemed to stagnate or devolve.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Season 4, when creator Dan Harmon was out as showrunner showrunner, many think the creative energy left with him, with him. During Season 4, episodes relying relied more on fan-service and fan-service, increasingly exaggerated plots and characterizations. However, Season 5 seemed to [[GrowingTheBeard grow the beard]] again, however, thanks to the return of Harmon and fresher, more dynamic episodes. However, both Seasons 5 and 6 also have their detractors (particularly Season 6, which - -- following the show's move to a purely online model after being taken over by Yahoo - -- had some changes to the format which took some getting used to), and it's widely argued that even after Harmon came back, something was still missing - -- probably Pierce, Troy, and Shirley. It's also often argued that, in part due to the behind-the-scenes issues mentioned above, the show stayed within the "community college" setting long after it had passed its sell-by date, with the result that the remaining characters seemed to stagnate or devolve.



** Season 2 was very divisive, featuring plots that were started and stopped at random - a disfigured soldier turns up claiming to be the original heir, only to disappear forever at the end of the episode - and the show's DashedPlotLine nature working against it.

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** Season 2 was very divisive, featuring plots that were started and stopped at random - -- a disfigured soldier turns up claiming to be the original heir, only to disappear forever at the end of the episode - -- and the show's DashedPlotLine nature working against it.



* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'' began to rot when Bo & Luke exited and were replaced with Coy & Vance. But even after Bo & Luke returned, the show had already shown its age. We already know that the Dukes clan was all goody-goody. It got to the point where you were no longer booing and hissing at the star villains Boss Hogg & Sherrif Coltrane, but looking forward to their stark contrast to the Dukes' personalities, and relishing in their comic-relief antics - especially since Roscoe TookALevelInDumbass to become more of a 12-year-old who lives for "hot pursuit". ("Good news, good news! Yuk yuk yuk!")

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* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'' began to rot when Bo & Luke exited and were replaced with Coy & Vance. But even after Bo & Luke returned, the show had already shown its age. We already know that the Dukes clan was all goody-goody. It got to the point where you were no longer booing and hissing at the star villains Boss Hogg & Sherrif Coltrane, but looking forward to their stark contrast to the Dukes' personalities, and relishing in their comic-relief antics - -- especially since Roscoe TookALevelInDumbass to become more of a 12-year-old who lives for "hot pursuit". ("Good news, good news! Yuk yuk yuk!")



** While Season 6 has its detractors, most consider it to be closer to the quality of the first four seasons than the fifth (particularly the last couple of episodes). Season 7, however, received a lot of criticism for a wide variety of reasons. Perhaps the most common complaints are the [[TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot supersonic ravens]] and [[OffscreenTeleportation fast travel]] (as compared to earlier seasons, which established the scope of the world by sometimes have characters take entire ''seasons'' to traverse one kingdom), the increasingly [[IdiotPlot illogical decisions and strategies of smart characters]] (chief among them being Tyrion/Jon's "capture a wight" plan and the Sansa-Arya conflict), and a general sense that the character-driven narrative was being cast aside in favor of {{Visual Effects of Awesome}}. While the acting and effects are generally agreed to be very good, the season itself sapped the enthusiasm of many viewers for the next and final season...though there are some fans who [[BrokenBase prefer the faster pace and greater emphasis on visuals]].

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** While Season 6 has its detractors, most consider it to be closer to the quality of the first four seasons than the fifth (particularly the last couple of episodes). Season 7, however, received a lot of criticism for a wide variety of reasons. Perhaps the most common complaints are the [[TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot supersonic ravens]] and [[OffscreenTeleportation fast travel]] (as compared to earlier seasons, which established the scope of the world by sometimes have characters take entire ''seasons'' to traverse one kingdom), the increasingly [[IdiotPlot illogical decisions and strategies of smart characters]] (chief among them being Tyrion/Jon's "capture a wight" plan and the Sansa-Arya conflict), and a general sense fear that the character-driven narrative was being cast aside in favor of {{Visual Effects of Awesome}}. While the acting and effects are generally agreed to be very good, the season itself sapped the enthusiasm of many some viewers for the next and final season...though there season, while other viewers are some fans who [[BrokenBase prefer the faster pace and greater emphasis on visuals]].



** The show ran into serious trouble in its second season with characters constantly [[DependingOnTheWriter changing motives and personalities]], character development going backwards, plots coming out of nowhere, and the show becoming the preachy PublicServiceAnnouncement it used to mock. Any pretense of realism had disappeared by the end of Season 2 - the Glee Club inexplicably went from a broke bunch of misfits in Season 1, which was a huge part of the show's charm, to being able to assemble and perform any musical number instantly, complete with jaw-dropping effects, by the Season 2 finale.

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** The show ran into serious trouble in its second season with characters constantly [[DependingOnTheWriter changing motives and personalities]], character development going backwards, plots coming out of nowhere, and the show becoming the preachy PublicServiceAnnouncement it used to mock. Any pretense of realism had disappeared by the end of Season 2 - -- the Glee Club inexplicably went from a broke bunch of misfits in Season 1, which was a huge part of the show's charm, to being able to assemble and perform any musical number instantly, complete with jaw-dropping effects, by the Season 2 finale.



** Season 6 was the last for which the actors were contracted, but as a result of Joshua Safran's insistence on turning it into ''Everybody Loves [[CreatorsPet Blair And Dan]] And So Will '''YOU''', Dammit'' it was the final season and a reduced season at that (very reduced - to 10 episodes, less than half of each of Seasons 2-5 and less than even the first). It also had the show's lowest ratings ''ever''. [[spoiler:And having Dan be Gossip Girl with ''everybody'' letting him off the hook for his behavior wasn't universally well-received, to say the least.]]

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** Season 6 was the last for which the actors were contracted, but as a result of Joshua Safran's insistence on turning it into ''Everybody Loves [[CreatorsPet Blair And Dan]] And So Will '''YOU''', Dammit'' it was the final season and a reduced season at that (very reduced - -- to 10 episodes, less than half of each of Seasons 2-5 and less than even the first). It also had the show's lowest ratings ''ever''. [[spoiler:And having Dan be Gossip Girl with ''everybody'' letting him off the hook for his behavior wasn't universally well-received, to say the least.]]



* Season 5 of ''Series/InLivingColor''. The fourth season saw showrunner Keenan Ivory Wayans stepping away from the show due to ExecutiveMeddling by Creator/{{Fox}} - and taking his family/fellow castmates (Damon, Kim and Shawn) and other members of the staff with him. Scrambling to fill the void, Fox hired a host of new castmates, and of the returning ones, Creator/JimCarrey barely appeared due to his burgeoning film career. What was left were a group of new castmates who didn't elicit much reaction from the audience, jokes and skits that often fell flat, and a general lack of excitement among the cast. Ratings plummeted as a result of general audience apathy, and the show was unceremoniously cancelled in mid-1994.
* Surprisingly enough for a LongRunner, ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' largely averts this. The show is still considered to be excellent, and although some seasons are accused of being weaker overall (Seasons 8 and 11 are common targets) the only season that comes close to being universally disliked is [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness the first.]] In fact, much of what usually gets shows accused of JumpingTheShark - {{Flanderization}} of the main characters, introducing a brand new main character played by a [[Creator/DannyDeVito famous actor]], and generally having a more manic, over the top tone - is generally considered to be when the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard.]]

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* Season 5 of ''Series/InLivingColor''. The fourth season saw showrunner Keenan Ivory Wayans stepping away from the show due to ExecutiveMeddling by Creator/{{Fox}} - -- and taking his family/fellow castmates (Damon, Kim and Shawn) and other members of the staff with him. Scrambling to fill the void, Fox hired a host of new castmates, and of the returning ones, Creator/JimCarrey barely appeared due to his burgeoning film career. What was left were a group of new castmates who didn't elicit much reaction from the audience, jokes and skits that often fell flat, and a general lack of excitement among the cast. Ratings plummeted as a result of general audience apathy, and the show was unceremoniously cancelled in mid-1994.
* Surprisingly enough for a LongRunner, ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' largely averts this. The show is still considered to be excellent, and although some seasons are accused of being weaker overall (Seasons 8 and 11 are common targets) the only season that comes close to being universally disliked is [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness the first.]] In fact, much of what usually gets shows accused of JumpingTheShark - -- {{Flanderization}} of the main characters, introducing a brand new main character played by a [[Creator/DannyDeVito famous actor]], and generally having a more manic, over the top tone - -- is generally considered to be when the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard.]]



* With ''Series/TheLWord'', the later seasons in general are often accused of this, but particularly the final season - which is so universally hated that some [[FanonDiscontinuity fans prefer to pretend it didn't happen.]]

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* With ''Series/TheLWord'', the later seasons in general are often accused of this, but particularly the final season - -- which is so universally hated that some [[FanonDiscontinuity fans prefer to pretend it didn't happen.]]



* ''Series/LawAndOrderUK'': The rot began in Series 5 with the departure of two of its original cast members, then kicked into high gear by Series 6 with the departure of Creator/JamieBamber and really ramped up by Series 7 with Bradley Walsh as the only original cast member remaining. Their replacements, while not bad characters or actors in their own right, simply did not generate the flawless chemistry of the original cast. In particular, Ronnie and Matt's rapport was never duplicated with either of Matt's replacements. The remaining episodes, while not bad - "Deal"/"Survivor's Guilt" are almost unanimously considered among the series' best - were not nearly as good as those from the first 4 series.

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* ''Series/LawAndOrderUK'': The rot began in Series 5 with the departure of two of its original cast members, then kicked into high gear by Series 6 with the departure of Creator/JamieBamber and really ramped up by Series 7 with Bradley Walsh as the only original cast member remaining. Their replacements, while not bad characters or actors in their own right, simply did not generate the flawless chemistry of the original cast. In particular, Ronnie and Matt's rapport was never duplicated with either of Matt's replacements. The remaining episodes, while not bad - -- "Deal"/"Survivor's Guilt" are almost unanimously considered among the series' best - -- were not nearly as good as those from the first 4 series.



* The third season of ''Series/TheManFromUNCLE'' (during which the approach was changed to ride the coattails of ''Series/{{Batman}}'', which also affected ''The Girl From U.N.C.L.E.'') is hated by most fans - two low points being Kuryakin riding a bomb full of essence of skunk that's falling onto Las Vegas and Solo dancing the Watusi with a gorilla - and considered to be the season that killed the show, although it did get an abbreviated fourth season that tried to reverse the damage (too little, too late - and as Jon Heitland's book on the series pointed out, if the third season was too comical the fourth season was too ''serious'').

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* The third season of ''Series/TheManFromUNCLE'' (during which the approach was changed to ride the coattails of ''Series/{{Batman}}'', which also affected ''The Girl From U.N.C.L.E.'') is hated by most fans - -- two low points being Kuryakin riding a bomb full of essence of skunk that's falling onto Las Vegas and Solo dancing the Watusi with a gorilla - -- and considered to be the season that killed the show, although it did get an abbreviated fourth season that tried to reverse the damage (too little, too late - -- and as Jon Heitland's book on the series pointed out, if the third season was too comical the fourth season was too ''serious'').



* Some viewers feel ''Series/{{Nashville}}'' started suffering this in Season 2 following the departure of T-Bone Burnett on the musical front, but his other commitments meant he was only going to work on the series in its first season anyway. Others feel it started suffering this following moving the focus from the music industry, an increase in melodrama (not helped by several of the show's original writers leaving) and introducing a revolving cast of Scrappies; it continued in Season 3, with the show courting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy by staying on the same creative path. The misguided faith in misery and recycled plots (especially in regards to Gunnar and Scarlett) - as well as giving Juliette a postpartum depression storyline that not only didn't work with viewers (or critics) but wound up [[GoneHorriblyWrong backfiring horribly]] due to Hayden Panettiere having it ''for real'' - suggests Season 4 was its last on ABC, its made a ChannelHop to Creator/{{CMT}} with new showrunners, the departure of Aubrey Peeples and Will Chase, meaning in her case no more of the [[TheScrappy widely disliked Layla Grant]].

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* Some viewers feel ''Series/{{Nashville}}'' started suffering this in Season 2 following the departure of T-Bone Burnett on the musical front, but his other commitments meant he was only going to work on the series in its first season anyway. Others feel it started suffering this following moving the focus from the music industry, an increase in melodrama (not helped by several of the show's original writers leaving) and introducing a revolving cast of Scrappies; it continued in Season 3, with the show courting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy by staying on the same creative path. The misguided faith in misery and recycled plots (especially in regards to Gunnar and Scarlett) - -- as well as giving Juliette a postpartum depression storyline that not only didn't work with viewers (or critics) but wound up [[GoneHorriblyWrong backfiring horribly]] due to Hayden Panettiere having it ''for real'' - -- suggests Season 4 was its last on ABC, its made a ChannelHop to Creator/{{CMT}} with new showrunners, the departure of Aubrey Peeples and Will Chase, meaning in her case no more of the [[TheScrappy widely disliked Layla Grant]].



** The first half of Season 5 was considered little better. Several fans were not happy with Zelena being upgraded to a regular. Merida was largely criticised for overshadowing the main arc and taking screen time away from the core characters. What's more is that the show quickly became overloaded with another KudzuPlot - with the revelation that [[spoiler:Hook is now a Dark One]] causing the season to do a complete 180 and abandon the arc it had been building with Camelot. Likewise, the midseason finale ending with an AssPull ShockingSwerve was met with outrage by many fans. However, the season was seen by many to improve in its second half.

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** The first half of Season 5 was considered little better. Several fans were not happy with Zelena being upgraded to a regular. Merida was largely criticised for overshadowing the main arc and taking screen time away from the core characters. What's more is that the show quickly became overloaded with another KudzuPlot - -- with the revelation that [[spoiler:Hook is now a Dark One]] causing the season to do a complete 180 and abandon the arc it had been building with Camelot. Likewise, the midseason finale ending with an AssPull ShockingSwerve was met with outrage by many fans. However, the season was seen by many to improve in its second half.



** ''[[Series/PowerRangersMegaforce Power Rangers Super Megaforce]]'' (Season 20[[SequelNumberSnarl -ish]] - [[StarTrekMovieCurse sensing a pattern yet?]]) also got this. To wit: having to adapt two separate Sentai (''Series/TensouSentaiGoseiger'' and ''Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger''), plot points that don't seem to have any impact or made little sense, the rangers gaining new weapons and zords only to discard them, bland villains and a very anti-climatic finale which was suppose to be a [[MilestoneCelebration celebration of everything Power Rangers up to that point]].

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** ''[[Series/PowerRangersMegaforce Power Rangers Super Megaforce]]'' (Season 20[[SequelNumberSnarl -ish]] - -- [[StarTrekMovieCurse sensing a pattern yet?]]) also got this. To wit: having to adapt two separate Sentai (''Series/TensouSentaiGoseiger'' and ''Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger''), plot points that don't seem to have any impact or made little sense, the rangers gaining new weapons and zords only to discard them, bland villains and a very anti-climatic finale which was suppose to be a [[MilestoneCelebration celebration of everything Power Rangers up to that point]].



** After Season 3, there was a noticeable decline in quality. Jeremy started playing up supernatural legends about the animals he was investigating, whereas in previous seasons he'd focused on scientific fact. It also became apparent that the show had started to run out of actually dangerous (or potentially dangerous) animals to investigate - the episode about sea lampreys was especially bad in that regard, as Jeremy portrayed it as a serious threat to humans when the only human deaths that lampreys have ever been involved in were incidents of people who got food poisoning from eating them. He was also more prone to pushing speculation without any decent evidence to support it, such as the episode where he speculated that the Loch Ness Monster was the Greenland shark while completely failing to demonstrate that Greenland sharks ever entered Loch Ness.

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** After Season 3, there was a noticeable decline in quality. Jeremy started playing up supernatural legends about the animals he was investigating, whereas in previous seasons he'd focused on scientific fact. It also became apparent that the show had started to run out of actually dangerous (or potentially dangerous) animals to investigate - -- the episode about sea lampreys was especially bad in that regard, as Jeremy portrayed it as a serious threat to humans when the only human deaths that lampreys have ever been involved in were incidents of people who got food poisoning from eating them. He was also more prone to pushing speculation without any decent evidence to support it, such as the episode where he speculated that the Loch Ness Monster was the Greenland shark while completely failing to demonstrate that Greenland sharks ever entered Loch Ness.



** The sixth season (1980-1981) stands out as uniquely awful, and is the season that most fans will agree is a mess in terms of quality. The entire cast and writing staff left in 1980, but [[ExecutiveMeddling the network insisted]] that the show continue along anyway; new producer Jean Doumanian, who had previously been in charge of booking musical guests, knew ''nothing'' about comedy. (On a special about ''SNL''[='=]s history in the 1980s, Creator/GilbertGottfried, a cast member around that time, went on record in saying that Doumanian was so clueless about comedy that she would root for Margaret Dumont in a Creator/MarxBrothers film.) As a result, the musical guests were fantastic, but the rest of the show was barely watchable (including Weekend Update, which Lorne Michaels invented as a way for viewers to at least find ''one'' funny moment in an episode that they didn't like because of the host or if the writing was a little flat that week). More to the point, Doumanian passed up a lot of potentially talented would-be cast members (Creator/JimCarrey being one of them), misunderstood a lot of obvious punchlines, thought that VulgarHumor was what made the sketches funny (as opposed to RefugeInAudacity) - which became her downfall when Charles Rocket said "I wanna know who the fuck did it" at the end of the Charlene Tilton episode - and focused more on humorless character pieces (some of which were intentionally not funny, like the one from the Karen Black/Cheap Trick episode in which Creator/GilbertGottfried played a stroke victim laid up in the hospital while everyone around him - except his true friend, Rachel [Denny Dillon] - mocked him). Finally NBC stepped in and fired everyone except Joe Piscopo and some kid named Creator/EddieMurphy that was hired mid-season and was showing a lot of promise...

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** The sixth season (1980-1981) stands out as uniquely awful, and is the season that most fans will agree is a mess in terms of quality. The entire cast and writing staff left in 1980, but [[ExecutiveMeddling the network insisted]] that the show continue along anyway; new producer Jean Doumanian, who had previously been in charge of booking musical guests, knew ''nothing'' about comedy. (On a special about ''SNL''[='=]s history in the 1980s, Creator/GilbertGottfried, a cast member around that time, went on record in saying that Doumanian was so clueless about comedy that she would root for Margaret Dumont in a Creator/MarxBrothers film.) As a result, the musical guests were fantastic, but the rest of the show was barely watchable (including Weekend Update, which Lorne Michaels invented as a way for viewers to at least find ''one'' funny moment in an episode that they didn't like because of the host or if the writing was a little flat that week). More to the point, Doumanian passed up a lot of potentially talented would-be cast members (Creator/JimCarrey being one of them), misunderstood a lot of obvious punchlines, thought that VulgarHumor was what made the sketches funny (as opposed to RefugeInAudacity) - -- which became her downfall when Charles Rocket said "I wanna know who the fuck did it" at the end of the Charlene Tilton episode - -- and focused more on humorless character pieces (some of which were intentionally not funny, like the one from the Karen Black/Cheap Trick episode in which Creator/GilbertGottfried played a stroke victim laid up in the hospital while everyone around him - -- except his true friend, Rachel [Denny Dillon] - -- mocked him). Finally NBC stepped in and fired everyone except Joe Piscopo and some kid named Creator/EddieMurphy that was hired mid-season and was showing a lot of promise...



** The 20th season (1994-1995) also stands out as particularly bad. Between Phil Hartman's departure, the popularity of the O.J. Simpson murder trial (which ''SNL'' repeatedly wrote sketches about during this time - when it didn't write sketches laden with HoYay or {{Overly Long Gag}}s disguised as sketches with some semblance of a plot), and cast and crew tensions backstage (particularly with Creator/JaneaneGarofalo, who hated the juvenile humor of the show and left mid-season), it's really not hard to see why some critics and fans have compared season 20 with Season 6 in terms of sheer unwatchability. (That said, like Season 11, Weekend Update was considered a bright spot in an otherwise messy season - this time, with Norm [=MacDonald=] as the anchor, though even Weekend Update suffered from being weak and repetitive just like the rest of Season 20.)

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** The 20th season (1994-1995) also stands out as particularly bad. Between Phil Hartman's departure, the popularity of the O.J. Simpson murder trial (which ''SNL'' repeatedly wrote sketches about during this time - -- when it didn't write sketches laden with HoYay or {{Overly Long Gag}}s disguised as sketches with some semblance of a plot), and cast and crew tensions backstage (particularly with Creator/JaneaneGarofalo, who hated the juvenile humor of the show and left mid-season), it's really not hard to see why some critics and fans have compared season 20 with Season 6 in terms of sheer unwatchability. (That said, like Season 11, Weekend Update was considered a bright spot in an otherwise messy season - this time, with Norm [=MacDonald=] as the anchor, though even Weekend Update suffered from being weak and repetitive just like the rest of Season 20.)
6th Jan '18 11:00:39 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' had gone from being 3rd place in the Nielsen charts in its first season to 27th place in the second, and failed to really recover from the ratings drop, due to ExecutiveMeddling at ABC. The network wanted to appeal more to a [[WereStillRelevantDammit younger, hipper crowd]], jettisoning Mindy's dad & grandma as regular characters, introducing more and more bizarre or cartoonish characters to the show to play off Creator/RobinWilliams (granted, formerly one-shot character Exidor [[EnsembleDarkhorse did get a bit of popularity rivaling Mork]] when he was featured in episodes), and the show was given a disco rearrangement. The executives also wanted Mindy to [[JiggleShow dress more sexually with more cleavage and curves]], before Robin stepped in and protested. This, along with [[FridayNightDeathSlot a move from Thursday night to Sunday night]], introducing special guests like Raquel Welch and [[Series/LeaveItToBeaver Barbara Billingsley]] and moving its stories from the "space alien observes Earth customs" theme [[StrangledByTheRedString to making Mindy and Mork a couple]] (and later, a married couple with a child played by Robin's idol JonathanWinters) did not help ratings at all. The show struggled on until its cancellation in 1982.

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* ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' had gone from being 3rd place in the Nielsen charts in its first season to 27th place in the second, and failed to really recover from the ratings drop, due to ExecutiveMeddling at ABC. The network wanted to appeal more to a [[WereStillRelevantDammit younger, hipper crowd]], jettisoning Mindy's dad & grandma as regular characters, introducing more and more bizarre or cartoonish characters to the show to play off Creator/RobinWilliams (granted, formerly one-shot character Exidor [[EnsembleDarkhorse did get a bit of popularity rivaling Mork]] when he was featured in episodes), and the show was given a disco rearrangement. The executives also wanted Mindy to [[JiggleShow dress more sexually with more cleavage and curves]], before Robin stepped in and protested. This, along with [[FridayNightDeathSlot a move from Thursday night to Sunday night]], introducing special guests like Raquel Welch and [[Series/LeaveItToBeaver Barbara Billingsley]] and moving its stories from the "space alien observes Earth customs" theme [[StrangledByTheRedString to making Mindy and Mork a couple]] (and later, a married couple with a child played by Robin's idol JonathanWinters) Creator/JonathanWinters) did not help ratings at all. The show struggled on until its cancellation in 1982.
6th Jan '18 5:48:13 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/LawAndOrderUK'': The rot began in Series 5 with the departure of two of its original cast members, then kicked into high gear by Series 6 with the departure of JamieBamber and really ramped up by Series 7 with Bradley Walsh as the only original cast member remaining. Their replacements, while not bad characters or actors in their own right, simply did not generate the flawless chemistry of the original cast. In particular, Ronnie and Matt's rapport was never duplicated with either of Matt's replacements. The remaining episodes, while not bad - "Deal"/"Survivor's Guilt" are almost unanimously considered among the series' best - were not nearly as good as those from the first 4 series.

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* ''Series/LawAndOrderUK'': The rot began in Series 5 with the departure of two of its original cast members, then kicked into high gear by Series 6 with the departure of JamieBamber Creator/JamieBamber and really ramped up by Series 7 with Bradley Walsh as the only original cast member remaining. Their replacements, while not bad characters or actors in their own right, simply did not generate the flawless chemistry of the original cast. In particular, Ronnie and Matt's rapport was never duplicated with either of Matt's replacements. The remaining episodes, while not bad - "Deal"/"Survivor's Guilt" are almost unanimously considered among the series' best - were not nearly as good as those from the first 4 series.
6th Jan '18 8:14:36 AM HighCrate
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* ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' had gone from being 3rd place in the Nielsen charts in its first season to 27th place in the second, and failed to really recover from the ratings drop, due to ExecutiveMeddling at ABC. The network wanted to appeal more to a [[WereStillRelevantDammit younger, hipper crowd]], jettisoning Mindy's dad & grandma as regular characters, introducing more and more bizarre or cartoonish characters to the show to play off Creator/RobinWilliams (granted, formerly one-shot character Exidor [[EnsembleDarkhorse did get a bit of popularity rivaling Mork]] when he was featured in episodes), and the show [[DeaderThanDisco was given a disco rearrangement]]. The executives also wanted Mindy to [[JiggleShow dress more sexually with more cleavage and curves]], before Robin stepped in and protested. This, along with [[FridayNightDeathSlot a move from Thursday night to Sunday night]], introducing special guests like Raquel Welch and [[Series/LeaveItToBeaver Barbara Billingsley]] and moving its stories from the "space alien observes Earth customs" theme [[StrangledByTheRedString to making Mindy and Mork a couple]] (and later, a married couple with a child played by Robin's idol JonathanWinters) did not help ratings at all. The show struggled on until its cancellation in 1982.

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* ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' had gone from being 3rd place in the Nielsen charts in its first season to 27th place in the second, and failed to really recover from the ratings drop, due to ExecutiveMeddling at ABC. The network wanted to appeal more to a [[WereStillRelevantDammit younger, hipper crowd]], jettisoning Mindy's dad & grandma as regular characters, introducing more and more bizarre or cartoonish characters to the show to play off Creator/RobinWilliams (granted, formerly one-shot character Exidor [[EnsembleDarkhorse did get a bit of popularity rivaling Mork]] when he was featured in episodes), and the show [[DeaderThanDisco was given a disco rearrangement]].rearrangement. The executives also wanted Mindy to [[JiggleShow dress more sexually with more cleavage and curves]], before Robin stepped in and protested. This, along with [[FridayNightDeathSlot a move from Thursday night to Sunday night]], introducing special guests like Raquel Welch and [[Series/LeaveItToBeaver Barbara Billingsley]] and moving its stories from the "space alien observes Earth customs" theme [[StrangledByTheRedString to making Mindy and Mork a couple]] (and later, a married couple with a child played by Robin's idol JonathanWinters) did not help ratings at all. The show struggled on until its cancellation in 1982.
5th Jan '18 12:46:53 PM nombretomado
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** The mass writer exodus during and after season three (Matt Miller and Zev Borow went to ''HumanTarget'', Scott Rosenbaum to the ''Series/{{V|2009}}'' remake, Alison Adler to ''Series/NoOrdinaryFamily'' and Phil Klemmer to ''Series/{{Undercovers}}'') certainly didn't help, given that all of these departures were veterans of the original staff, who had helped shape the show in a very particular way up to that point.

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** The mass writer exodus during and after season three (Matt Miller and Zev Borow went to ''HumanTarget'', ''Series/HumanTarget'', Scott Rosenbaum to the ''Series/{{V|2009}}'' remake, Alison Adler to ''Series/NoOrdinaryFamily'' and Phil Klemmer to ''Series/{{Undercovers}}'') certainly didn't help, given that all of these departures were veterans of the original staff, who had helped shape the show in a very particular way up to that point.
24th Dec '17 6:53:50 AM Scsigs
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** ''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'' (Season 10) had its share of dislike too, for subpar acting, an {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop, and too much gratuitous focus on the mecha over the plot, which is also derided for being a near-carbon copy of its source material, ''Series/HyakujuuSentaiGaoranger''. Like with ''Turbo'', the fandom's mellowed out and its reputation isn't as bad as it used to be. Namely since it has two of the ''best'' team-up stories in the franchise that have yet to be topped in terms of overall quality.

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** ''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'' (Season 10) had its share of dislike too, for subpar acting, an {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop, and too much gratuitous focus on the mecha over the plot, which is also derided for being a near-carbon copy of its source material, ''Series/HyakujuuSentaiGaoranger''. Like with ''Turbo'', the fandom's mellowed out and its reputation isn't as bad as it used to be. Namely since Mostly because it has two of the ''best'' team-up stories in the franchise that have yet to be topped in terms of overall quality.
24th Dec '17 6:52:56 AM Scsigs
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** ''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'' (Season 10) had its share of dislike too, for subpar acting, an {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop, and too much gratuitous focus on the mecha over the plot, which is also derided for being a near-carbon copy of its source material, ''Series/HyakujuuSentaiGaoranger''. Like with ''Turbo'', the fandom's mellowed out and its reputation isn't as bad as it used to be.

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** ''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'' (Season 10) had its share of dislike too, for subpar acting, an {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop, and too much gratuitous focus on the mecha over the plot, which is also derided for being a near-carbon copy of its source material, ''Series/HyakujuuSentaiGaoranger''. Like with ''Turbo'', the fandom's mellowed out and its reputation isn't as bad as it used to be. Namely since it has two of the ''best'' team-up stories in the franchise that have yet to be topped in terms of overall quality.
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** Season 6 in particular is a case of LoveItOrHateIt; many revile it for levels of gloom bordering on {{Wangst}}, the pathetic-ness of the Trio of as BigBad, plot elements such as the widely-detested "[[{{Anvilicious}} magic]] [[DrugsAreBad addiction]]" arc and an inconsistently written romance between Spike and Buffy. On the other hand, some praise it for the attempts at emotional depth and character development, a change of pace from the relentless SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, and individually beloved episodes like "Tabula Rasa" and "Once More With Feeling". Lampshaded in this scene:

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** Season 6 in particular is a case of LoveItOrHateIt; divisiveness; many revile it for levels of gloom bordering on {{Wangst}}, the pathetic-ness of the Trio of as BigBad, plot elements such as the widely-detested "[[{{Anvilicious}} magic]] [[DrugsAreBad addiction]]" arc and an inconsistently written romance between Spike and Buffy. On the other hand, some praise it for the attempts at emotional depth and character development, a change of pace from the relentless SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, and individually beloved episodes like "Tabula Rasa" and "Once More With Feeling". Lampshaded in this scene:



** Season 6 is LoveItOrHateIt - some despised it for the Piper/Leo drama, the too light and childish storylines and continued awful characterisation of Phoebe, while others loved it for returning to the arc-based storytellng, having future Chris, and an epic two-parter finale.

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** Season 6 is LoveItOrHateIt polarizing - some despised it for the Piper/Leo drama, the too light and childish storylines and continued awful characterisation of Phoebe, while others loved it for returning to the arc-based storytellng, having future Chris, and an epic two-parter finale.



** One thing nearly everyone seems to agree on is that seasons 22 through 24 (1985-7) were the nadir of the classic series, although different fans pick different ones of those seasons as the worst. Season 22 saw Eric Saward going overboard with the DarkerAndEdgier, with the [[LoveItOrHateIt Sixth Doctor]] (Colin Baker) acting like an arsehole most of the time (including to his own companion), grim plots, and enough FamilyUnfriendlyViolence to, for the only time ever, cause the fans themselves to start getting uncomfortable. Season 23 had the unpopular "Trial of a Time Lord" extended arc, some very lacklustre writing, and an ending that revealed the behind-the-scenes chaos the show had descended into by being almost incomprehensible, unintentionally. Both seasons are also notable for bothersome amounts of ContinuityLockOut and ContinuityPorn. Season 24 suffers from a LighterAndSofter shift that many fans considered to go too far into glitzy {{Camp}}, Sylvester [=McCoy=] playing the Doctor as an actual [[TheDitz Ditz]] instead of his later, more popular performance as a world-weary ManipulativeBastard who occasionally engaged in ObfuscatingStupidity, and Keff [=McCulloch=] and his disco-aerobics brand of incidental music. The seasons also suffered from having two of the most widely unpopular companions in the show's history: Peri who was one of the few pre-1989 companions to genuinely be as [[DamselScrappy hapless]] and frequently-demeaned as post-2005-only fans and lazy media commentators claim all of them were; and Mel who was [[TheScrappy just annoying]] and played by an actor who had an irritating public image and a lot of baggage from earlier roles.

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** One thing nearly everyone seems to agree on is that seasons 22 through 24 (1985-7) were the nadir of the classic series, although different fans pick different ones of those seasons as the worst. Season 22 saw Eric Saward going overboard with the DarkerAndEdgier, with the [[LoveItOrHateIt Sixth Doctor]] Doctor (Colin Baker) acting like an arsehole most of the time (including to his own companion), grim plots, and enough FamilyUnfriendlyViolence to, for the only time ever, cause the fans themselves to start getting uncomfortable. Season 23 had the unpopular "Trial of a Time Lord" extended arc, some very lacklustre writing, and an ending that revealed the behind-the-scenes chaos the show had descended into by being almost incomprehensible, unintentionally. Both seasons are also notable for bothersome amounts of ContinuityLockOut and ContinuityPorn. Season 24 suffers from a LighterAndSofter shift that many fans considered to go too far into glitzy {{Camp}}, Sylvester [=McCoy=] playing the Doctor as an actual [[TheDitz Ditz]] instead of his later, more popular performance as a world-weary ManipulativeBastard who occasionally engaged in ObfuscatingStupidity, and Keff [=McCulloch=] and his disco-aerobics brand of incidental music. The seasons also suffered from having two of the most widely unpopular companions in the show's history: Peri who was one of the few pre-1989 companions to genuinely be as [[DamselScrappy hapless]] and frequently-demeaned as post-2005-only fans and lazy media commentators claim all of them were; and Mel who was [[TheScrappy just annoying]] and played by an actor who had an irritating public image and a lot of baggage from earlier roles.



** New Who Series 3 is something of a LoveItOrHateIt. On the one hand, it has a much better, more defined story arc than the previous seasons, and "Human Nature/The Family of Blood" and "Blink" are two of the best ''Doctor Who'' stories ever. On the other hand, there's a thoroughly-despised DeusExMachina ending, a weak Dalek two-parter that marked the beginning of their VillainDecay, and companion Martha is a bit of a hot-button issue in fandom, likewise John Simm's portrayal of TheMaster.

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** New Who Series 3 is something of a LoveItOrHateIt.polarizing season. On the one hand, it has a much better, more defined story arc than the previous seasons, and "Human Nature/The Family of Blood" and "Blink" are two of the best ''Doctor Who'' stories ever. On the other hand, there's a thoroughly-despised DeusExMachina ending, a weak Dalek two-parter that marked the beginning of their VillainDecay, and companion Martha is a bit of a hot-button issue in fandom, likewise John Simm's portrayal of TheMaster.
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** While Season 6 has its detractors, most consider it to be closer to the quality of the first four seasons than the fifth (particularly the last couple of episodes). Season 7, however, received a lot of criticism for a wide variety of reasons. Perhaps the most common complaints are the [[TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot supersonic ravens]] and [[OffscreenTeleportation fast travel]] (as compared to earlier seasons, which established the scope of the world by sometimes have characters take entire [i]seasons[/i] to traverse one kingdom), the increasingly [[IdiotPlot illogical decisions and strategies of smart characters]] (chief among them being Tyrion/Jon's "capture a wight" plan and the Sansa-Arya conflict), and a general sense that the character-driven narrative was being cast aside in favor of {{Visual Effects of Awesome}}. While the acting and effects are generally agreed to be very good, the season itself sapped the enthusiasm of many viewers for the next and final season...though there are some fans who [[BrokenBase prefer the faster pace and greater emphasis on visuals]].

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** While Season 6 has its detractors, most consider it to be closer to the quality of the first four seasons than the fifth (particularly the last couple of episodes). Season 7, however, received a lot of criticism for a wide variety of reasons. Perhaps the most common complaints are the [[TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot supersonic ravens]] and [[OffscreenTeleportation fast travel]] (as compared to earlier seasons, which established the scope of the world by sometimes have characters take entire [i]seasons[/i] ''seasons'' to traverse one kingdom), the increasingly [[IdiotPlot illogical decisions and strategies of smart characters]] (chief among them being Tyrion/Jon's "capture a wight" plan and the Sansa-Arya conflict), and a general sense that the character-driven narrative was being cast aside in favor of {{Visual Effects of Awesome}}. While the acting and effects are generally agreed to be very good, the season itself sapped the enthusiasm of many viewers for the next and final season...though there are some fans who [[BrokenBase prefer the faster pace and greater emphasis on visuals]].
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