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26th Jun '16 10:43:52 AM Nyame
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* General consensus amongst fans and critics alike is that Season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' became this compared to the first two seasons which got consistently better in quality. The season began contentious when [[spoiler: Sara Lance]] was [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Anticlimactically killed off]] in order to [[StuffedInTheFridge prop up Laurel's character development]] [[spoiler: into becoming the Black Canary]] ''in the first episode'' and was then followed up by trying to {{Ron The Death Eater}} her InUniverse [[spoiler: in order to make Laurel seem more worthy as the Canary]]. Then you have a pretty controversial take on [[ComicBook/TheAtom Roy Palmer]] who many people felt [[spoiler: was just being used as a cheap IronMan rip off as opposed to his actual power set in the regular DC Universe]] and adding unnecessary drama to the Oliver/Felicity relationship (more on that later) by adding a LoveTriangle to the mix. Next you have Malcolm Merlyn becoming a full blown VillainSue this season who, [[spoiler: despite orchestrating Sara's death]], in order to start a war between Team Arrow and the League of Assassins not only [[KarmaHoudini gets away scot free]] in the end [[spoiler: but managed to become the next ComicBook/RasAlGhul in the process]]. The League of Assassins plot also became criticised once Ra's Al-Ghul [[spoiler: decided to make Oliver his heir]] which only further fuelled the fire that Ollie is a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute stand in]] for Batman. The once [[FanPreferredCouple beloved Oliver/Felicity pairing]] became very contentious amongst fans not only for the large amount of unnecessary drama added in but also for the, at times, [[DesignatedHero unsympathetic portrayals of both characters]] [[RomanticPlotTumor which for a lot of fans killed the ship]]. Finally you have the Season Finale which many people felt lacked a lot of tension the previous ones had and the [[spoiler: [[AnticlimaxBoss anticlimactic death of Ra's Al Ghul]]]], who many people felt was defeated absurdly easily compared to [[WhamEpisode his first duel with Oliver in The Climb]], then you can see why many fans felt ''Series/TheFlash2014'' was the [[MorePopularSpinoff superior show]] this season.

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* General consensus amongst fans and critics alike is that Season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' became this compared to the first two seasons which got consistently better in quality. The season began contentious when [[spoiler: Sara Lance]] was [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Anticlimactically killed off]] in order to [[StuffedInTheFridge prop up Laurel's character development]] [[spoiler: into becoming the Black Canary]] ''in the first episode'' and was then followed up by trying to {{Ron The Death Eater}} her InUniverse [[spoiler: in order to make Laurel seem more worthy as the Canary]]. Then you have a pretty controversial take on [[ComicBook/TheAtom Roy Ray Palmer]] who many people felt [[spoiler: was just being used as a cheap IronMan rip off as opposed to his actual power set in the regular DC Universe]] and adding unnecessary drama to the Oliver/Felicity relationship (more on that later) by adding a LoveTriangle to the mix. Next you have Malcolm Merlyn becoming a full blown VillainSue this season who, [[spoiler: despite orchestrating Sara's death]], in order to start a war between Team Arrow and the League of Assassins not only [[KarmaHoudini gets away scot free]] in the end [[spoiler: but managed to become the next ComicBook/RasAlGhul in the process]]. The League of Assassins plot also became criticised once Ra's Al-Ghul [[spoiler: decided to make Oliver his heir]] which only further fuelled the fire that Ollie is a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute stand in]] for Batman. The once [[FanPreferredCouple beloved Oliver/Felicity pairing]] became very contentious amongst fans not only for the large amount of unnecessary drama added in but also for the, at times, [[DesignatedHero unsympathetic portrayals of both characters]] [[RomanticPlotTumor which for a lot of fans killed the ship]]. Finally you have the Season Finale which many people felt lacked a lot of tension the previous ones had and the [[spoiler: [[AnticlimaxBoss anticlimactic death of Ra's Al Ghul]]]], who many people felt was defeated absurdly easily compared to [[WhamEpisode his first duel with Oliver in The Climb]], then you can see why many fans felt ''Series/TheFlash2014'' was the [[MorePopularSpinoff superior show]] this season.season.
** According to most fans, Season 4 is even worse than Season 3. Everything, including the fight choreography, has decayed significantly, and so much focus has been put on Felicity that many state that Oliver has become a supporting character on his show and that it should be renamed ''Felcity''. The relationship drama is even worse than last season [[spoiler:thanks to the introduction of Oliver's illegitimate son William]] and inconsistent characterization, eventually overtaking the plot. The last straw for many was when they killed off [[spoiler:Laurel Lance, aka the Black Canary, aka Green Arrow's ''comics love interest'']] and used this character's last moments to ship Olicity. For others, it was the completely underwhelming Season 4 finale, nigh undisputably considered to be the worst in the entire show, even more so than Season 3's. Many have compared this season to a badly written romance FanFiction with Felicity as the MarySue protagonist. In fact, Season 4 was so bad that after the finale the ''Arrow'' [[Website/{{Reddit}} subreddit]] went into a complete meltdown and converted into a ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' subreddit until the next season came out, including replacing the banners and placing the ''Daredevil'' logo on top of the ''Arrow'' logo for its subreddit link.
23rd Jun '16 12:12:35 AM youngbond007
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* ''Series/{{Friends}}'': Despite taking on a DenserAndWackier tone towards the end of season three and {{Flanderization}} kicking in sometime around season five, most fans and critics agree that it generally remained a high quality sitcom and had '''very strong''' ratings up to the last episode. But even most agree that its last two seasons (seasons 9 and 10) is where it really lost its luster. Common complaints are that flanderization was stretched beyond believability (to the point where the characters had basically become cartoon versions of their former selves), the plots were less creative and more outrageous (for example, one episode centered around Joey not even being able to successfully repeat basic French words), and the actors were very visibly bored with doing the show. Also while Rachel and Ross having a kid together in season 8 could have a great way to ''finally'' end the WhileTheyOrWontThey saga between them since ''the very first episode'', they didn't stop it, leading for the whole thing to continue until the ''last five minutes'' of the series finale. Luckily, the show went out on a high note with a solid finale that averted the flaws with the last two seasons, for the most part.

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* ''Series/{{Friends}}'': Despite taking on a DenserAndWackier tone towards the end of season three and {{Flanderization}} kicking in sometime around season five, most fans and critics agree that it generally remained a high quality sitcom and had '''very strong''' ratings up to the last episode. But even most agree that its last two seasons (seasons 9 and 10) is where it really lost its luster. Common complaints are that flanderization was stretched beyond believability (to the point where the characters had basically become cartoon versions of their former selves), the plots were less creative and more outrageous (for example, one episode centered around Joey not even being able to successfully repeat basic French words), and the actors were very visibly bored with doing the show. Also while Rachel and Ross having a kid together in season 8 could have a great way to ''finally'' end the WhileTheyOrWontThey WillTheyOrWontThey saga between them since ''the very first episode'', they didn't stop it, leading for the whole thing to continue until the ''last five minutes'' of the series finale. Luckily, the show went out on a high note with a solid finale that averted the flaws with the last two seasons, for the most part.
23rd Jun '16 12:11:09 AM youngbond007
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* ''Series/{{Friends}}'': Despite taking on a DenserAndWackier tone towards the end of season three and {{Flanderization}} kicking in sometime around season five, most fans and critics agree that it generally remained a high quality sitcom until its final season (Season 10). Common complaints are that flanderization was stretched beyond believability (to the point where the characters had basically become cartoon versions of their former selves), the plots were less creative and more outrageous (for example, one episode centered around Joey not even being able to successfully repeat basic French words), and the actors were very visibly bored with doing the show.

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* ''Series/{{Friends}}'': Despite taking on a DenserAndWackier tone towards the end of season three and {{Flanderization}} kicking in sometime around season five, most fans and critics agree that it generally remained a high quality sitcom until and had '''very strong''' ratings up to the last episode. But even most agree that its final season (Season 10).last two seasons (seasons 9 and 10) is where it really lost its luster. Common complaints are that flanderization was stretched beyond believability (to the point where the characters had basically become cartoon versions of their former selves), the plots were less creative and more outrageous (for example, one episode centered around Joey not even being able to successfully repeat basic French words), and the actors were very visibly bored with doing the show. Also while Rachel and Ross having a kid together in season 8 could have a great way to ''finally'' end the WhileTheyOrWontThey saga between them since ''the very first episode'', they didn't stop it, leading for the whole thing to continue until the ''last five minutes'' of the series finale. Luckily, the show went out on a high note with a solid finale that averted the flaws with the last two seasons, for the most part.
12th Jun '16 10:02:04 AM DoctorNemesis
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** The 2016 mini-series isn't exactly beloved by fans either. The nature of the GovernmentConspiracy shifted in quite a radical way which heavily contradicted much of what came before (even accounting for the fact that the show's MythArc had never exactly been consistent), and a certain amount of ValuesDissonance in the way conspiracy theorists were depicted in the 1990s (as heroic crusaders for truth) compared to how they are widely viewed in 2016 (as deluded and potentially even dangerous followers of fringe and extremist political movements) meant that the premise hadn't aged very well in several ways.
12th Jun '16 9:51:02 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Coinciding with a change in showrunners, season 8 was widely derided by many fans for a plot which basically undid the character and plot developments of the previous seasons just to rehash well-trodden ground about Beckett pushing Castle away to investigate the sinister conspiracy behind her mother's murder all by herself, despite the fact that this plot had basically been well and truly resolved two seasons prior. While there was a certain amount of back-tracking later in the season, news that Stana Katic's contract had not been renewed and the inevitable departure of Kate Beckett was pretty much seen as the last straw for many viewers, and the show was cancelled not long after.
11th Jun '16 12:19:02 PM asten
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* ''Series/{{Highlander}}'' takes a steep dive in Season 6. The first two episodes complete an arc centered on a Zoroastrian demon, whereas in previous seasons all "supernatural" elements were debunked (save the Immortals' existence). Thereafter, the main character and supporting cast disappear most of the time, and different Immortal women are "auditioned" for a possible spin-off series. Of the 13 episodes, only "Indiscretions" and the two-part series finale are worth watching.

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* ''Series/{{HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys}}'': Minor example. The first season was a bit confused but season 2 established the tone of the show better. Despite some problems with season 4, due to Sorbo suffering an aneurism, it remained constantly good through out its run. But season 5 was REALLY good. It introduced a main villain, had much more drama, introduced deconstruction elements towards TheCape archetype, had Hercules facing mythical figures from other lands and legends, and was just really well done. Season 6 was cut short due to Kevin Sorbo being done with the role and had to be wrapped up. It was good but season 5 left a high bar.
* ''Series/{{Highlander}}'' takes a steep dive in Season 6. The first two episodes complete an arc centered on a Zoroastrian demon, whereas in previous seasons all "supernatural" elements were debunked (save the Immortals' existence). Thereafter, the main character and supporting cast disappear most of the time, and different Immortal women are "auditioned" for a possible spin-off series. Of the 13 episodes, only "Indiscretions" and the two-part series finale are worth watching.
11th Jun '16 11:46:12 AM asten
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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'''s fandom generally agrees that either Season 3 or Season 4 suffered from this; depending on the side of the argument you take, Season Four suffered for being unable to pass the high standards set by Season Three (Gabrielle's pacifism phase is often cited as the primary downfall of the season), or Season Three's "Rift" arc (which led to the critically acclaimed MusicalEpisode "The Bitter Suite") being disliked by certain fans.

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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'''s fandom generally agrees that either Season 3 or Season 4 suffered from this; depending on ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' Despite being more popular than it's parent series ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', which for reference got better as it went along, Xena seems to have peaked in season 3. Four is considered a let down compared to the side previous season and season 5 was, to put it bluntly, was not liked. And season 6... Most fans HATE season 6. Its also infamous for the "Twilight of The Gods" arc, which is considered by some to be one of the argument you take, Season Four suffered for being unable to pass the high standards set by Season Three (Gabrielle's pacifism phase is often cited as the primary downfall of the season), or Season Three's "Rift" arc (which led to the critically acclaimed MusicalEpisode "The Bitter Suite") being disliked by certain fans.worst story lines in TV history.
8th Jun '16 1:44:44 PM OlfinBedwere
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** With the UK incarnation of the show, the second season is generally agreed as the worst, with the very competent candidates in the previous series replaced by a bunch of complete morons (with the obvious exception of Ruth Badger). Depending on who you ask, the third season was either when things got back on track, or the year when the show went all icky and "mainstream" on viewers.

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** With the UK incarnation of the show, the second season is tends to be seen as something of a SophomoreSlump, due to the generally agreed as poor quality of the worst, with the very competent candidates in the previous series replaced by a bunch of complete morons (with the obvious notable exception of Ruth Badger). Depending on who you ask, After that, many fans consider the third show to have gradually gone downhill since season was either when things got back on track, or the year 7, when the show went all icky and "mainstream" on viewers.prize was changed from an actual job with Lord Sugar to an investment prize, which has led to many accusations that competent candidates are fired for tenuous reasons simply because Sugar doesn't find their proposed business appealing.
6th Jun '16 9:32:28 AM DoctorNemesis
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Season 4, when Dan Harmon out as show-runner many think the creative energy left with him, with episodes relying more on fan-service and increasingly exaggerated plots and characterizations. Season 5 seemed to [[GrowingTheBeard grow the beard]] again, however, thanks to the return of Harmon and fresher, more dynamic episodes.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Season 4, when Dan Harmon out as show-runner many think the creative energy left with him, with episodes relying more on fan-service and increasingly exaggerated plots and characterizations. Season 5 seemed to [[GrowingTheBeard grow the beard]] again, however, thanks to the return of Harmon and fresher, more dynamic episodes. However, both Seasons 5 and 6 also have their detractors (particularly Season 6, which -- following the show's move to a purely online model after being taken over by Yahoo -- had some changes to the format which took some getting used to), and it's widely argued that even after Harmon came back, something was still missing.
31st May '16 3:38:37 AM ApeAccount
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** Season 11: Initially showed an improvement on previous seasons. The writers finally managed to match the scale of season five in terms of the threat. Yet while the characters may have been on a grand scale ([[spoiler: God and his sister]]), after waiting all season for the confrontation the actual events were largely lacking in drama.
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