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8th Dec '16 9:04:48 AM Sapphirea2
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** [[BrokenBase While there's no general consensus]], many fans found Season 17 (the season Creator/DouglasAdams script edited) to be lackluster. Yes, ''City of Death'' is one of the best episodes out there, but it doesn't make up for ''Destiny of the Daleks'', ''The Horns of Nimon'', the innuendo-laden ''The Creature from the Pit'', the {{Anvilicious}} ''Nightmare of Eden'', or the fact that the entire season was cut short by a poorly timed crew workers strike.

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** [[BrokenBase While there's no general consensus]], many fans found Season 17 (the season Creator/DouglasAdams script edited) to be lackluster. Yes, ''City of Death'' is one of the best episodes out there, but it doesn't make up for ''Destiny of the Daleks'', ''The Horns of Nimon'', the innuendo-laden ''The Creature from the Pit'', the {{Anvilicious}} ''Nightmare of Eden'', or the fact that the entire season was cut short by a poorly timed poorly-timed crew workers strike.



** New Who Series 3 is something of a LoveItOrHateIt. On the one hand, it has a much better story arc than the previous seasons, and "Human Nature/The Family of Blood" and "Blink" are two of the best Doctor Who stories ever. On the other hand, there's a thoroughly-despised DeusExMachina ending, a weak Dalek story that marked the beginning of their VillainDecay, and new companion Martha is a bit of a hot-button issue in fandom, likewise John Simm's portrayal of TheMaster.
** Series 6-7 (Eleventh Doctor) and 8 (Twelfth Doctor) arguably constitute a DorkAge collectively. The complaints summarized:
*** Series 6: Good premise and cast, but shaky writing; the "Death of the Doctor" StoryArc was incredibly convoluted and marred by [[RandomEventsPlot constant plot twists]], odd swerves in tone and character development, {{Romantic Plot Tumor}}s, and controversial plot points poorly presented (Amy's pregnancy, River Song's existence, etc.).
*** Series 7: AbortedArc, PacingProblems, and TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot; the mid-season switching of companions had Amy and Rory Pond [[DroppedABridgeOnHim thrown under a bus]] in favor of glorified LivingMacGuffin and CreatorsPet Clara Oswald; the Great Intelligence (re)introduced at the same time never reached its full potential as an arc villain. The post-season 50th anniversary special and associated shorts were huge hits, but the Christmas special the following month was divisive in its clumsy attempts to wrap up Eleven's story after a season spent neglecting it.
*** Series 8: An inconsistent characterization/companion dynamic affected Creator/PeterCapaldi's performance and the new Doctor wound up too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]] and [[GrumpyOldMan grouchy]]; Clara came off as a SpotlightStealingSquad and RomanticPlotTumor with a [[TheScrappy Scrappy of a boyfriend]]; gloomy StoryArc which implied, among other things, that her gallivanting around with the Doctor was bad for her; two dumber-than-usual episodes ("Kill the Moon" and "In the Forest of the Night"); the biggest development in the post-Series 7 specials ([[spoiler:Gallifrey's return]]) went unaddressed except to provide a minor plot point in a finale that had '''many''' controversial twists ([[spoiler:Clara's blackmail attempt, female Master, murder of Osgood, Cyber-Brigadier...]]) and a mostly-sad ending. At least it laid the groundwork for the very well-received "Last Christmas" and Series 9.

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** New Who Series 3 is something of a LoveItOrHateIt. On the one hand, it has a much better better, more defined story arc than the previous seasons, and "Human Nature/The Family of Blood" and "Blink" are two of the best Doctor Who ''Doctor Who'' stories ever. On the other hand, there's a thoroughly-despised DeusExMachina ending, a weak Dalek story two-parter that marked the beginning of their VillainDecay, and new companion Martha is a bit of a hot-button issue in fandom, likewise John Simm's portrayal of TheMaster.
** Series 6-7 (Eleventh Doctor) and 8 (Twelfth Doctor) arguably constitute a DorkAge collectively. The complaints summarized:
*** Series 6: Good 6 had a good premise and cast, but ''very'' shaky writing; writing, culminating in the "Death TroubledProduction and disastrous reception of the Doctor" StoryArc mid-season premiere "Let's Kill Hitler". The StoryArc, in its attempts to continue and top the wildly popular arc of Series 5, was incredibly convoluted and marred by [[RandomEventsPlot constant plot twists]], odd swerves in tone and character development, development (thanks in part to two episodes being switched to different halves of the season), {{Romantic Plot Tumor}}s, and controversial plot points poorly presented (Amy's pregnancy, River Song's existence, etc.). \n Tellingly the best-received episodes were the ones that had the least to do with the arc, such as "The Doctor's Wife" and "The Girl Who Waited". For "bonus" points, the post-season ChristmasEpisode "The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe" was seen as a big comedown from "A Christmas Carol".
*** Series 7: With the show effectively trying to make two seasons out of one AND fix the issues fans had with Series 6, AbortedArc, PacingProblems, and TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot; TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot set in. 7A meandered with little more to say about the mid-season switching of companions had Amy Ponds and Rory Pond their relationship with the Doctor, and ''then'' they were [[DroppedABridgeOnHim thrown under a bus]] in favor of glorified LivingMacGuffin and CreatorsPet Clara Oswald; Oswald in the ChristmasEpisode and 7B. The Great Intelligence (re)introduced at the same time as Clara never reached its full potential as an arc villain. The post-season 50th anniversary special and associated shorts were huge hits, but the Christmas special the following month was divisive in its clumsy attempts to wrap up Eleven's story after a season spent neglecting it. \n All this meant trouble for...
*** Series 8: An inconsistent characterization/companion dynamic affected Creator/PeterCapaldi's performance and the new Twelfth Doctor wound up too [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]] and [[GrumpyOldMan grouchy]]; grouchy]], not softening soon enough for many viewers' tastes. Finally defining Clara came off as a SpotlightStealingSquad and character meant she got so much screen time that the derisive fan nickname "''Clara Who''" emerged during this season; her RomanticPlotTumor with a [[TheScrappy Scrappy of a boyfriend]]; boyfriend]] was part of a gloomy StoryArc which implied, among other things, that her gallivanting around with the Doctor was bad for her; her. There were two dumber-than-usual episodes ("Kill the Moon" and "In the Forest of the Night"); Night") calling back to the early revival seasons, while the biggest development in the post-Series 7 specials ([[spoiler:Gallifrey's return]]) went unaddressed except to provide a minor plot point in a finale that had '''many''' controversial twists ([[spoiler:Clara's blackmail attempt, female Master, murder of Osgood, Cyber-Brigadier...]]) and a mostly-sad ending. [[GrowingTheBeard At least it laid the groundwork for the very well-received "Last Christmas" and Series 9. 9, which broke the show's losing streak!]]
28th Nov '16 10:41:57 AM crazysamaritan
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** Season 7 is usually considered an improvement over Season 6, but still not one of the show's better ones. The unrelentingly grim tone, the AnyoneCanDie nature of the show, and Jax completing his transformation into a VillainProtagonist caused many accusations of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, and EightDeadlyWords began to be thrown around. Furthermore, nothing was done to cut back on the extended running times introduced in Season 6, causing more unnecessary {{Padding}}. However, the cast's performance were continuously praised, and the season's pacing began to improve towards the end as the show moved towards its conclusion, resulting in a finale that is generally considered a worthy ending to the series.

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** Season 7 is usually considered an improvement over Season 6, but still not one of the show's better ones. The unrelentingly grim tone, the AnyoneCanDie nature of the show, and Jax completing his transformation into a VillainProtagonist caused many accusations of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, and EightDeadlyWords began DarknessInducedAudienceApathy to be thrown around. Furthermore, nothing was done to cut back on the extended running times introduced in Season 6, causing more unnecessary {{Padding}}. However, the cast's performance were continuously praised, and the season's pacing began to improve towards the end as the show moved towards its conclusion, resulting in a finale that is generally considered a worthy ending to the series.
25th Nov '16 9:52:13 PM Kid
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* ''Series/{{Reba}}'' is not ''really considered seasonal rot, but in its second season it became [[LighterAndSofter noticeably lighter]] then the [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness previous season]] and considerably different in terms of quality.
** Season 3 had hit with this hard, due to the fact it [[MiddleChildSyndrome mostly focuses on Kyra]], and the episodes are , in a tone, bad.
** Season 4 was much worse, as the problems in the past season were made much worse, as [[Cloudcuckoolander Barbara Jean]] is more dumb, Reba's tone is considerably much darker.

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* ''Series/{{Reba}}'' is not ''really ''really'' considered seasonal rot, but in its second season it became [[LighterAndSofter noticeably lighter]] then the [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness previous season]] and considerably different in terms of quality.
** Season 3 had hit with this hard, due to the fact it [[MiddleChildSyndrome mostly focuses on Kyra]], and the episodes are , are, in a tone, word, bad.
** Season 4 was much worse, as the problems in the past season were made much worse, as [[Cloudcuckoolander [[CloudCuckoolander Barbara Jean]] is more dumb, Reba's tone is considerably much darker.
25th Nov '16 9:44:23 PM Kid
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25th Nov '16 9:12:12 PM Kid
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** The final season devotes most on the wedding weekend. However, it resulted to the controversial finale which is executed poorly [[spoiler:as they crammed 17 years of the story which also destroys the character development of Barney, Robin, and Ted]] in order to fit the original ending back in 2006. Despite the amounts of {{Foreshadowing}} [[spoiler:that Ted is actually telling the story about how he fell in love with Robin]], the later seasons still couldn't match the delivery of the first four seasons.

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** The final season devotes most on the wedding weekend. However, it resulted to in the controversial finale which is executed poorly [[spoiler:as they crammed 17 years of the story which also destroys the character development of Barney, Robin, and Ted]] in order to fit the original ending back in 2006. Despite the amounts of {{Foreshadowing}} [[spoiler:that Ted is actually telling the story about how he fell in love with Robin]], the later seasons still couldn't match the delivery of the first four seasons.
25th Nov '16 12:35:10 PM Kid
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* While ''Series/AncientAliens'' has always traditionally relied on heavy usage of InsaneTrollLogic and AllMythsAreTrue, early seasons kept the silliness down and generally kept to well-known conspiracy theories (Egyptians building stuff for aliens, for example). Latter seasons get into spiritual conspiracies (angels are aliens, god is an alien) and increasingly relied on tenuous BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy and ETGaveUsWiFi premises (Aliens caused TheGreatFlood, the UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar, superheroes are based on aliens, GreekFire is alien tech, etc) for episodes, along with large amounts of rehashing episodes from earlier seasons.

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* While ''Series/AncientAliens'' has always traditionally relied on heavy usage of InsaneTrollLogic and AllMythsAreTrue, early seasons kept the silliness down and generally kept to well-known conspiracy theories (Egyptians building stuff for aliens, for example). Latter seasons get into spiritual conspiracies (angels are aliens, god is an alien) and increasingly relied on tenuous BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy and ETGaveUsWiFi premises (Aliens (aliens caused TheGreatFlood, the UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar, superheroes are based on aliens, GreekFire is alien tech, etc) for episodes, along with large amounts of rehashing episodes from earlier seasons.
11th Nov '16 6:45:44 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Series 14 of ''Series/TopGear'' is generally considered one of the weakest seasons of the show, with an over-reliance on scripted gags, rehashed jokes/challenges and focusing more on the characters of Jeremy, James, and Richard, instead of the actual presenters. (the caricature-like versions of the presenters, i.e. Jeremy being a ham-fisted oaf, rather than Jeremy's own personality.) Thankfully, the quality of later seasons (especially 17) is on the rise.
* ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' has this. ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth'' was a hard act to follow and was seen as GrowingTheBeard for the show. However Miracle Day was thought to have too much {{Padding}} (while Children of Earth was 5 episodes based around a single premise this was 10), there were too many {{Idiot Plot}}s, severe pacing problems, a paedophile and child murderer becoming a main character after getting released in a massive case of ArtisticLicenseLaw. Then there was a disappointing finale that still left a [[VoodooShark lot of questions]].

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* ''Series/TopGear'':
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Series 14 of ''Series/TopGear'' is generally considered one of the weakest seasons of the Clarkson/Hammond/May era of the show, with an over-reliance on scripted gags, rehashed jokes/challenges jokes/challenges, and focusing more on the characters of Jeremy, James, and Richard, instead caricatures of the actual presenters. (the caricature-like versions of the presenters, i.e. Jeremy presenters (Clarkson being a ham-fisted oaf, rather than Jeremy's own personality.) et cetera) instead of their actual personalities. Thankfully, the quality of later seasons (especially 17) saw a return to form.
** Series 23
is on arguably an even bigger one. The show's [[ControversyProofImage popular-yet-controversial]] host Jeremy Clarkson finally [[TheLastStraw crossed the rise.
line]] with Creator/TheBBC in 2015 when he got into a physical altercation with one of the show's producers, leading to his sacking; co-hosts Richard Hammond and James May both followed him out the door voluntarily. Following a hiatus, ''Top Gear'' returned the following year to a mixed reception, with new host Chris Evans ([[NamesTheSame no relation]] to [[Creator/ChrisEvans the Captain America actor]]) in particular coming in for heavy criticism due to his lack of chemistry with his co-hosts (especially Matt [=LeBlanc=], who was his primary co-host and met a fairly good reception). Evans departed at the end of the season; time will tell how well the show recovers.
* ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' has this. ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth'' was a hard act to follow and was seen as GrowingTheBeard for the show. However Miracle Day However, ''Miracle Day'' was thought to have too much {{Padding}} (while Children ''Children of Earth Earth'' was 5 five episodes based around a single premise premise, this was 10), ten), there were too many {{Idiot Plot}}s, severe pacing problems, and a paedophile and child murderer becoming a main character after getting released in a massive case of ArtisticLicenseLaw. Then there was a disappointing finale that still left a [[VoodooShark lot of questions]].
31st Oct '16 8:59:41 AM Silverblade2
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** Whether or not season 4 is any better is a [[BrokenBase point of contention among critics and fans]]. While it did make some notable improvements to season 3, such as providing a more compelling villain with Damien Dahrk, changing the status quo for its cast and giving compelling story arcs to characters such as Diggle and Thea, it was also criticized for its RomanticPlotTumor, which led to Felicity going from the series' EnsembleDarkhorse to the show's [[CreatorsPet most overused character]]. Also, like season 3, the second half is said to have lost momentum, as the show once again indulged in pointless flashback sequences and introduced a contrived and easily resolved nuclear apocalypse threat. The season finale, ''Schism,'' had ended the season on a sour note, with some going so far as to call it [[DethroningMomentOfSuck one of the series' worst episodes]].

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** Whether or not season 4 is any better is a [[BrokenBase point of contention among critics and fans]]. While it did make some notable improvements to season 3, such as providing a more compelling villain with Damien Dahrk, changing the status quo for its cast and giving compelling story arcs to characters such as Diggle and Thea, it was also criticized for its RomanticPlotTumor, which led to Felicity going from the series' EnsembleDarkhorse to the show's [[CreatorsPet most overused character]]. Also, like season 3, the second half is said to have lost momentum, as the show once again indulged in pointless flashback sequences and introduced a contrived and easily resolved nuclear apocalypse threat. The season finale, ''Schism,'' had ended the season on a sour note, with some going so far as to call it [[DethroningMomentOfSuck one of the series' worst episodes]].episodes.
15th Oct '16 7:16:02 PM Jediuser
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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'': Despite being more popular than its parent series ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', which for reference got better as it went along, Xena seems to have peaked in season 3. Four is considered a let down compared to the previous season and season 5 was, to put it bluntly, was not liked, due to a lack of action[[note]]Lucy Lawless was pregnant at the time season 5 was filmed, which greatly limited the action she could perform[[/note]] and the infamous "Twilight of The Gods" arc, which is considered by some to be one of the worst story lines in TV history. Season 6 is seen as a modest improvement, although fans are split on how the series ends.

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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'': Despite being more popular than its parent series ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', which for reference got better as it went along, Xena seems to have peaked in season 3. Four is considered a let down compared to the previous season and season 5 was, 5, to put it bluntly, was not liked, due to a lack of action[[note]]Lucy Lawless was pregnant at the time season 5 was filmed, filmed (which was worked into the show), which greatly limited the action actions she could perform[[/note]] and the infamous "Twilight of The Gods" arc, which is considered by some to be one of the worst story lines in TV history. Season 6 is seen as a modest improvement, although fans are split on how the series ends.
15th Oct '16 8:05:56 AM Jediuser
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