History SeasonalRot / LiveActionTV

16th Aug '17 4:01:44 AM ClintEastwood
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** Season 11 (1985-1986) counts as Seasonal Rot and an OldShame, in the eyes of NBC, Creator/AlFranken, and ''Simpsons'' writer George Meyer. One would think that a season in which one of the original producers (Creator/LorneMichaels) returns to try and rebuild the show to its former glory would be welcomed with open arms by fans, right? Not really. The writing was okay (a little weird for its time, but critics didn't complain about the writing), but the cast was filled with semi-famous people who may have given good performances, but really didn't gel into that ensemble cast that ''SNL'' had in its early days. This, coupled with the mediocre premiere hosted by Music/{{Madonna}} and the fact that critics and fans alike were getting sick of ''SNL'', and you had all the ingredients needed for Brandon Tartikoff to plan ''SNL'''s cancellation. (At the very least, unlike season six, season 11's "Weekend Update" was somewhat enjoyable, thanks to the hiring of Creator/DennisMiller, whose [[DeadpanSnarker snarky delivery]] brought back memories of Creator/ChevyChase as the show's very first Weekend Update anchor.) (Un)Fortunately, this didn't happen, as Lorne Michaels fired most of his season 11 cast (leaving behind Jon Lovitz, Nora Dunn, and Dennis Miller) and hired a new crew of up-and-coming cast members (Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks, Kevin Nealon, and Victoria Jackson). Those who weren't ''completely'' turned off by ''SNL'' in its 11th season rejoiced.

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** Season 11 (1985-1986) counts as Seasonal Rot and an OldShame, in the eyes of NBC, Creator/AlFranken, and ''Simpsons'' writer George Meyer. One would think that a season in which one of the original producers (Creator/LorneMichaels) returns to try and rebuild the show to its former glory would be welcomed with open arms by fans, right? Not really. The writing was okay (a little weird for its time, but critics didn't complain about the writing), but the cast was filled with semi-famous people who may have given good performances, but really didn't gel into that ensemble cast that ''SNL'' had in its early days. This, coupled with the mediocre premiere hosted by Music/{{Madonna}} and the fact that critics and fans alike were getting sick of ''SNL'', and you had all the ingredients needed for Brandon Tartikoff to plan ''SNL'''s cancellation. (At the very least, unlike season six, season 11's "Weekend Update" was somewhat enjoyable, thanks to the hiring of Creator/DennisMiller, whose [[DeadpanSnarker snarky delivery]] brought back memories of Creator/ChevyChase as the show's very first Weekend Update anchor.) (Un)Fortunately, this didn't happen, as Lorne Michaels fired most of his season 11 cast (leaving behind Jon Lovitz, Creator/JonLovitz, Nora Dunn, and Dennis Miller) and hired a new crew of up-and-coming cast members (Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks, Kevin Nealon, and Victoria Jackson). Those who weren't ''completely'' turned off by ''SNL'' in its 11th season rejoiced.



* For many fans, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' seems to have peaked in series 2. Series 3 is seen as a (slight) let down [[ToughActToFollow compared to what came before it]], while the Christmas Special, "The Abominable Bride", is [[BrokenBase split among the fandom]]. Series 4 had broken the base even further, particularly the final episode, "The Final Problem." Weaker plotlines and writing, the introduction of the extremely divisive Eurus, increasingly unbelievable one-upping plot twists and a controversial potential final episode made it fail to live up to its beloved predecessors, which even some supporters of the season admit.
* ''[[Series/SherlockHolmes The Casebook of Sherlock Holmes]]'' and ''[[Series/SherlockHolmes The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes]]'', the sixth and seventh series from the Granada ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' adaptations were marked by increasing deviations from the Canon. This was mostly due to Jeremy Brett's worsening health, and the planned filming of the entire Canon was cut short by [[AuthorExistenceFailure Actor Existence Failure]].

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* For many fans, ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' seems to have peaked in series 2. Series 3 is seen as a (slight) let down [[ToughActToFollow compared to what came before it]], while the Christmas Special, "The "[[Recap/SherlockSpecialTheAbominableBride The Abominable Bride", Bride]]", is [[BrokenBase split among the fandom]]. Series 4 had broken the base even further, particularly the final episode, "The "[[Recap/SherlockS04E03TheFinalProblem The Final Problem.Problem]]." Weaker plotlines and writing, the introduction of the extremely divisive Eurus, increasingly unbelievable one-upping plot twists and a controversial potential final episode made it fail to live up to its beloved predecessors, which even some supporters of the season admit.
* ''[[Series/SherlockHolmes The Casebook of Sherlock Holmes]]'' and ''[[Series/SherlockHolmes The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes]]'', the sixth and seventh series from the Granada ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' adaptations were marked by increasing deviations from the Canon. This was mostly due to Jeremy Brett's Creator/JeremyBrett's worsening health, and the planned filming of the entire Canon was cut short by [[AuthorExistenceFailure Actor Existence Failure]].
16th Aug '17 3:54:08 AM ClintEastwood
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* ''Any'' season of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' can fall into this depending on who you ask, with the popular answers being a) that the show [[FirstInstallmentWins hasn't been good since the original cast was on it]] in TheSeventies, or b), if viewers were [[JustHereForGodzilla just watching it for one sketch or cast member]], they will blame the seasonal rot on the cast member's departure. Popular cast members cited include: Creator/DanAykroyd, Creator/JohnBelushi, Creator/EddieMurphy, Dana Carvey, Creator/PhilHartman, Creator/ChrisFarley, Creator/JimmyFallon, Creator/TinaFey, Creator/AmyPoehler, [[Music/TheLonelyIsland Andy Samberg]], and, as of 2013, Creator/BillHader.

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* ''Any'' season of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' can fall into this depending on who you ask, with the popular answers being a) that the show [[FirstInstallmentWins hasn't been good since the original cast was on it]] in TheSeventies, or b), if viewers were [[JustHereForGodzilla just watching it for one sketch or cast member]], they will blame the seasonal rot on the cast member's departure. Popular cast members cited include: Creator/DanAykroyd, Creator/JohnBelushi, Creator/EddieMurphy, Dana Carvey, Creator/DanaCarvey, Creator/PhilHartman, Creator/ChrisFarley, Creator/JimmyFallon, Creator/TinaFey, Creator/AmyPoehler, [[Music/TheLonelyIsland Andy Samberg]], and, as of 2013, Creator/BillHader.



** Season 11 (1985-1986) counts as Seasonal Rot and an OldShame, in the eyes of NBC, Creator/AlFranken, and ''Simpsons'' writer George Meyer. One would think that a season in which one of the original producers (Lorne Michaels) returns to try and rebuild the show to its former glory would be welcomed with open arms by fans, right? Not really. The writing was okay (a little weird for its time, but critics didn't complain about the writing), but the cast was filled with semi-famous people who may have given good performances, but really didn't gel into that ensemble cast that ''SNL'' had in its early days. This, coupled with the mediocre premiere hosted by Music/{{Madonna}} and the fact that critics and fans alike were getting sick of ''SNL'', and you had all the ingredients needed for Brandon Tartikoff to plan ''SNL'''s cancellation. (At the very least, unlike season six, season 11's "Weekend Update" was somewhat enjoyable, thanks to the hiring of Creator/DennisMiller, whose [[DeadpanSnarker snarky delivery]] brought back memories of Creator/ChevyChase as the show's very first Weekend Update anchor.) (Un)Fortunately, this didn't happen, as Lorne Michaels fired most of his season 11 cast (leaving behind Jon Lovitz, Nora Dunn, and Dennis Miller) and hired a new crew of up-and-coming cast members (Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks, Kevin Nealon, and Victoria Jackson). Those who weren't ''completely'' turned off by ''SNL'' in its 11th season rejoiced.

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** Season 11 (1985-1986) counts as Seasonal Rot and an OldShame, in the eyes of NBC, Creator/AlFranken, and ''Simpsons'' writer George Meyer. One would think that a season in which one of the original producers (Lorne Michaels) (Creator/LorneMichaels) returns to try and rebuild the show to its former glory would be welcomed with open arms by fans, right? Not really. The writing was okay (a little weird for its time, but critics didn't complain about the writing), but the cast was filled with semi-famous people who may have given good performances, but really didn't gel into that ensemble cast that ''SNL'' had in its early days. This, coupled with the mediocre premiere hosted by Music/{{Madonna}} and the fact that critics and fans alike were getting sick of ''SNL'', and you had all the ingredients needed for Brandon Tartikoff to plan ''SNL'''s cancellation. (At the very least, unlike season six, season 11's "Weekend Update" was somewhat enjoyable, thanks to the hiring of Creator/DennisMiller, whose [[DeadpanSnarker snarky delivery]] brought back memories of Creator/ChevyChase as the show's very first Weekend Update anchor.) (Un)Fortunately, this didn't happen, as Lorne Michaels fired most of his season 11 cast (leaving behind Jon Lovitz, Nora Dunn, and Dennis Miller) and hired a new crew of up-and-coming cast members (Dana Carvey, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks, Kevin Nealon, and Victoria Jackson). Those who weren't ''completely'' turned off by ''SNL'' in its 11th season rejoiced.
2nd Aug '17 6:57:09 PM MisterCPC
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** ''24: Legacy'', a reboot/continuation season, already suffered from an AudienceAlienatingPremise of continuing the show but not including Jack this time around. As it progressed, many people found new lead Eric Carter to be a lackluster replacement for Jack, the story arc was criticized for its uneven pacing despite the shorter episode count, the ending came off as a huge AntiClimax to many with the final showdown, which only soured fans further when [[spoiler:Rebecca Ingram]], whom many felt was a better protagonist than Eric ended up getting killed off. Not helping was the show hyping up the return of fan-favorite Tony Almeida, only to do [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter almost nothing with him]], including having him disappear in the middle of the finale.
26th Jul '17 8:58:31 AM DoctorNemesis
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Season 4, when Dan Harmon out as showrunner many think the creative energy left with him, with episodes relying more on fan-service and increasingly exaggerated plots and characterizations. Season 5 seemed to [[GrowingTheBeard grow the beard]] again, however, thanks to the return of Harmon and fresher, more dynamic episodes. However, both Seasons 5 and 6 also have their detractors (particularly Season 6, which -- following the show's move to a purely online model after being taken over by Yahoo -- had some changes to the format which took some getting used to), and it's widely argued that even after Harmon came back, something was still missing -- probably Pierce, Troy, and Shirley.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Season 4, when Dan Harmon out as showrunner many think the creative energy left with him, with episodes relying more on fan-service and increasingly exaggerated plots and characterizations. Season 5 seemed to [[GrowingTheBeard grow the beard]] again, however, thanks to the return of Harmon and fresher, more dynamic episodes. However, both Seasons 5 and 6 also have their detractors (particularly Season 6, which -- following the show's move to a purely online model after being taken over by Yahoo -- had some changes to the format which took some getting used to), and it's widely argued that even after Harmon came back, something was still missing -- probably Pierce, Troy, and Shirley. It's also often argued that, in part due to the behind-the-scenes issues mentioned above, the show stayed within the "community college" setting long after it had passed its sell-by date, with the result that the remaining characters seemed to stagnate or devolve.
24th Jul '17 8:43:53 PM Jediuser
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** Season 3 is seen by many to be a comedown after the near-universally praised season 2 left a ToughActToFollow. While it was praised for providing previously disliked characters such as [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Laurel and Thea some much needed development]], it was also derided for excessive flashbacks, an [[RomanticPlotTumor increased focus on Oliver and Felicity's relationship (what made their relationship so refreshing early on was just how angst-free it was), underwritten plot points (such as Oliver becoming Ra's al Ghul's apprentice and then [[spoiler: revealing in the very next episode that it was all an act]]), and the removal of fan favorite characters Sara and, later on, Roy. Ra's al Ghul was also seen as a less compelling villain than Deathstroke due to his general lack of motivation and development, which led to a finale that was viewed as anticlimactic and formulaic.

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** Season 3 is seen by many to be a comedown after the near-universally praised season 2 left a ToughActToFollow. While it was praised for providing previously disliked characters such as [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Laurel and Thea some much needed development]], it was also derided for excessive flashbacks, an [[RomanticPlotTumor increased focus on Oliver and Felicity's relationship relationship]] (what made their relationship so refreshing early on was just how angst-free it was), underwritten plot points (such as Oliver becoming Ra's al Ghul's apprentice and then [[spoiler: revealing in the very next episode that it was all an act]]), and the removal of fan favorite characters Sara and, later on, Roy. Ra's al Ghul was also seen as a less compelling villain than Deathstroke due to his general lack of motivation and development, which led to a finale that was viewed as anticlimactic and formulaic.
24th Jul '17 6:09:33 PM Jediuser
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** Season 3 is seen by many to be a comedown after the near-universally praised season 2 left a ToughActToFollow. While it was praised for providing previously disliked characters such as [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Laurel and Thea some much needed development]], it was also derided for excessive flashbacks, pacing issues, underwritten plot points (such as Oliver becoming Ra's al Ghul's apprentice and then [[spoiler: revealing in the very next episode that it was all an act]]), and the removal of fan favorite characters Sara and, later on, Roy. Ra's al Ghul was also seen as a less compelling villain than Deathstroke due to his general lack of motivation and development, which led to a finale that was viewed as anticlimactic and formulaic.
** Whether or not Season 4 is any better is a [[ContestedSequel point of contention among critics and fans]]. While it did make some notable improvements to Season 3, such as providing a more compelling villain with Damien Dahrk, changing the status quo for its cast and giving compelling story arcs to characters such as Diggle and Thea, it was also criticized for its RomanticPlotTumor, which led to Felicity going from the series' EnsembleDarkhorse to the show's [[CreatorsPet most overused character]]. Also, like Season 3, the second half is said to have lost momentum, as the show once again indulged in poorly-integrated flashback sequences and introduced a contrived and easily resolved nuclear apocalypse threat. The season finale, ''Schism'', had ended the season on a sour note, with some going so far as to call it one of the series' worst episodes.

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** Season 3 is seen by many to be a comedown after the near-universally praised season 2 left a ToughActToFollow. While it was praised for providing previously disliked characters such as [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Laurel and Thea some much needed development]], it was also derided for excessive flashbacks, pacing issues, an [[RomanticPlotTumor increased focus on Oliver and Felicity's relationship (what made their relationship so refreshing early on was just how angst-free it was), underwritten plot points (such as Oliver becoming Ra's al Ghul's apprentice and then [[spoiler: revealing in the very next episode that it was all an act]]), and the removal of fan favorite characters Sara and, later on, Roy. Ra's al Ghul was also seen as a less compelling villain than Deathstroke due to his general lack of motivation and development, which led to a finale that was viewed as anticlimactic and formulaic.
** Whether or not Season 4 is any better is a [[ContestedSequel point of contention among critics and fans]]. While it did make some notable improvements to Season 3, such as providing a more compelling villain with Damien Dahrk, changing the status quo for its cast and giving compelling story arcs to characters such as Diggle and Thea, it was also criticized for its RomanticPlotTumor, [[RomanticPlotTumor further dragging out the Oliver/Felicity angst]], which led to Felicity going from the series' EnsembleDarkhorse to the show's [[CreatorsPet most overused character]]. Also, like Season 3, the second half is said to have lost momentum, as the show once again indulged in poorly-integrated flashback sequences and introduced a contrived and easily resolved nuclear apocalypse threat.threat, not to mention suffered from deteriorating fight choreography. The season finale, ''Schism'', had ended the season on a sour note, with some going so far as to call it one of the series' worst episodes.
24th Jul '17 12:43:43 AM gizmoman49
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** After the success of Season 14, the show re-entered a slump with the following 2 seasons. Season 15 was disliked for again having a cast mainly composed of [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]], the MVP twist favoring Elissa for the first 3 weeks, and a scandal breaking out nationally due to racist comments made by ''many'' of the houseguests (Aaryn, largely responsible for the majority of the comments, actually became the first person to be booed while leaving the house). Season 16 suffered from having a much blander cast than previous seasons (largely due to the producers wanting to play it safe after the controversey of Season 15), an 8-person alliance forming in the first week that turned the rest of the season into a CurbStompBattle that was boring to watch, the now-unpopular Battle of the Block twist making it even easier for said 8-person alliance to stay in power, the majority of the cast being TheLoad, and having one of the biggest [[AttentionWhore Attention Whores]] in the history of the show in the form of Frankie Grande.
*** Thankfully, Season 17 has been met with much more positive reception, due to a more interesting, likeable cast and all twists ending before jury, resulting in more moments of enjoyable gameplay rather than ExecutiveMeddling or gimmicky twists.
12th Jul '17 1:13:36 AM Zabilac
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** The first half of Season 6 has been met with scorn by many fans for [[AbortedArc abandoning the Land of Untold Stories concept a few episodes in]], [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasting several characters like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]], bringing in versions of Aladdin and Jasmine that were considered underwhelming, having a [[VillainDecay much campier and less threatening Evil Queen]] as the BigBad, bringing Rumple's behavior toward Belle to ''very'' uncomfortably abusive levels, adding further unwanted {{Retcon}}s, and generally feeling like there's no coherent plot. The second half has also been receiving flack with [[spoiler:Hook]] revealed as the killer of David's father, [[AntiClimax the Split Queen arc ending with Regina absorbing some of the Evil Queen's darkness]] and [[KarmaHoudini her doppelganger getting her chance at a happy ending]] with [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wish!Robin]], and the BigBad generally being a rather underwhelming villain despite being the one prophesied to kill Emma, with [[GreaterScopeVillain the one pulling his strings]] seen as something of a GenericDoomsdayVillain despite [[HamAndCheese a fun actress playing her.]]

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** The first half of Season 6 has been met with scorn by many fans for [[AbortedArc abandoning the Land of Untold Stories concept a few episodes in]], [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasting several characters like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]], bringing in versions of Aladdin and Jasmine that were considered underwhelming, having a [[VillainDecay much campier and less threatening Evil Queen]] as the BigBad, bringing Rumple's behavior toward Belle to ''very'' uncomfortably abusive levels, adding further unwanted {{Retcon}}s, and generally feeling like there's no coherent plot. The second half has also been receiving flack with [[spoiler:Hook]] revealed as the killer of David's father, father which led to Hook and Emma being separated '''''again''''' ''for three episodes'', [[AntiClimax the Split Queen arc ending with Regina absorbing some of the Evil Queen's darkness]] and [[KarmaHoudini her doppelganger getting her chance at a happy ending]] with [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wish!Robin]], and the BigBad generally being a rather underwhelming villain despite being the one prophesied to kill Emma, with [[GreaterScopeVillain the one pulling his strings]] seen as something of a GenericDoomsdayVillain despite [[HamAndCheese a fun actress playing her.]]
10th Jul '17 1:07:16 PM Premonition45
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** Season 31 (2014-15): Removal of the co-champion rule which allowed players who finished tied to compete again on the next show. All ties are now decided with a tiebreaker clue; the winner plays on and keeps their winnings and the loser goes home with $2,000.

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** Season 31 (2014-15): Removal of the co-champion rule which allowed players who finished tied to compete again on the next show. All ties are now decided with a tiebreaker clue; the winner plays on and keeps their winnings and the loser goes home with $2,000.$2,000, though none have occurred yet.
29th Jun '17 11:05:11 AM Silverblade2
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** Luckily, Season 5 has been widely accepted as a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]], with many calling it the best season since Season 2 for its compelling BigBad in Prometheus, entertaining flashbacks that have Oliver [[spoiler: finally joining the [[{{Mafiya}} Bratva]] after years of teasing]], and generally improved pacing, writing, and cinematography. Its only notable flaw being the addition of [[ReplacementScrappy the New Recruits]] (''especially'' [[CreatorsPet Tina Boland/Dinah Drake]]) and said recruits taking the spotlight from the previously established characters aside from Oliver and [[CreatorsPet Felicity]]. Nonetheless, it did not totally derailed the season's momentum (mostly thanks to the aforementioned BigBad). This all eventually lead to a finale which, both critics and fans agree, is one of the best, if not the best, episodes in the shows history.

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** Luckily, Season 5 has been widely accepted as a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]], an aversion, with many calling it the best season since Season 2 for its compelling BigBad in Prometheus, entertaining flashbacks that have Oliver [[spoiler: finally joining the [[{{Mafiya}} Bratva]] after years of teasing]], and generally improved pacing, writing, and cinematography. Its only notable flaw being the addition of [[ReplacementScrappy the New Recruits]] (''especially'' [[CreatorsPet Tina Boland/Dinah Drake]]) and said recruits taking the spotlight from the previously established characters aside from Oliver and [[CreatorsPet Felicity]]. Nonetheless, it did not totally derailed the season's momentum (mostly thanks to the aforementioned BigBad). This all eventually lead to a finale which, both critics and fans agree, is one of the best, if not the best, episodes in the shows history.
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