History ScrappyMechanic / Pokemon

25th Jun '17 5:30:06 PM MayIncon
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** Generation VI remedied this by ditching the scaling and overhauling the experience system to allow every participant to gain the same experience without it being split, or 50% if the Exp. Share was used, and also through the Battle Chateau's ability to alter the levels of trainers and the Lumiose restaurants in ''X'' and ''Y'', along with Secret Base battles, special rematchable trainers with high-levelled Pokémon and the return of the Trainer's Eye rematch system in ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire''. In all four games, Lucky Eggs are also much more easily obtainable through wild Chansey in Friend Safaris for the former pair of games, and wild Pelipper found through [=DexNav=], Happiny and Chansey in the latter pair of games.

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** Generation VI remedied this by ditching the scaling and overhauling the experience system to allow every participant to gain the same experience without it being split, or 50% if the Exp. Share was used, and also through the Battle Chateau's ability to alter the levels of trainers and the Lumiose restaurants in ''X'' and ''Y'', along with more accesible Secret Base battles, special rematchable trainers with high-levelled high-leveled Pokémon and the return of the Trainer's Eye rematch system in ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire''. In all four games, Lucky Eggs are also much more easily obtainable through wild Chansey in Friend Safaris for the former pair of games, and wild Pelipper found through [=DexNav=], Happiny and Chansey in the latter pair of games.
21st Jun '17 1:08:55 PM MayIncon
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* In the Battle Tree once an opponent is scouted, should you encounter and scout them again you can never change the team they are using when paired with you in the Multi Battles.

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* In the Battle Tree once an opponent is scouted, should you encounter and scout them again you can never change the team they are using when paired with you in the Multi Battles. This can get annoying should you encounter them again with a better team than when you scouted them.
12th Jun '17 4:04:41 AM MayIncon
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* The only way to farm evolutionary stones in ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire'' aside from frisking [[GuideDangIt certain]] wild Pokémon is to play the Secret Super Training minigame and get them as prizes. This wouldn't be so bad if you got one each time, but they're randomly selected among other items such as [[HealThyself Soda Pops]] and VendorTrash, so you might either be lucky and get a stone immediately or sit and shoot at balloons for half an hour.

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* The only way to farm evolutionary stones in ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire'' aside from frisking [[GuideDangIt certain]] wild Pokémon is to play the Secret Super Training minigame and get them as prizes. This wouldn't be so bad if you got one each time, but they're randomly selected among other items such as [[HealThyself Soda Pops]] and VendorTrash, VendorTrash regardless of your performance, so you might either be lucky and get a stone immediately or sit and shoot at balloons for half an hour.
4th Jun '17 6:46:18 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/MyPokemonRanch'':
** This WiiWare program is basically a Pokémon storage system for Generation IV. There's one problem -- any Pokémon deposited into the ranch ''can only be withdrawn to that same file!'' The program warns you of this repeatedly, showing that this was not an oversight. This means that if you delete your D/P save file after depositing Pokémon, they are trapped in the ranch permanently! This makes it virtually useless for preserving your hard-earned Pokémon when you start your Sinnoh adventure over, something for which previous storage systems were quite useful. Fortunately, Pokémon Bank for Gen VI and (in January 2017) VII has no such restriction, allowing withdrawal of any stored Pokémon to any compatible game.

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* ''VideoGame/MyPokemonRanch'':
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''VideoGame/MyPokemonRanch'': This WiiWare UsefulNotes/WiiWare program is basically a Pokémon storage system for Generation IV. There's one problem -- any Pokémon deposited into the ranch ''can only be withdrawn to that same file!'' The program warns you of this repeatedly, showing that this was not an oversight. This means that if you delete your D/P save file after depositing Pokémon, they are trapped in the ranch permanently! This makes it virtually useless for preserving your hard-earned Pokémon when you start your Sinnoh adventure over, something for which previous storage systems were quite useful. Fortunately, Pokémon Bank for Gen VI and (in January 2017) VII has no such restriction, allowing withdrawal of any stored Pokémon to any compatible game.
25th May '17 11:30:25 AM RainingMetal
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** There are some Pokémon that can ''only'' be caught in the wild through this method. One example involves Corsola either calling for help and getting Mareanie or another Corsola. If your luck is bad, you're sitting through a lot of time knocking out Corsolas and can end up running out of healing items and Leppa Berries, making things even worse. On the flip side though, the S.O.S. method is phenomenal for StatGrinding... but if you're trying to catch a Pokémon whose EV yields aren't good for your current party, you'll be feeding them a lot of EV-reducing berries afterwards. If a wild Pokémon is defeated and the other Pokémon isn't of the same evolutionary family as the one originally encountered, the chain will be broken and it will not call for help.

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** There are some Pokémon that can ''only'' be caught in the wild through this method. One example involves Corsola either calling for help and getting Mareanie or another Corsola. If your luck is bad, you're sitting through a lot of time knocking out Corsolas and can end up running out of healing items and Leppa Berries, making things even worse. On the flip side though, the S.O.S. method is phenomenal for StatGrinding... but if you're trying to catch a Pokémon whose EV yields aren't good for your current party, you'll be feeding them a lot of EV-reducing berries afterwards. If a wild Pokémon is defeated and the other Pokémon isn't of the same evolutionary family as the one originally encountered, the chain will be broken and it will not call for help. In many cases it's ''far'' easier to simply use Poke Pleago's Isle Evelup and wait for a day to max out [=EVs=] instead.


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** On the flipside, there's no way to "shoo" any ComMons or undesirable wild Pokémon from Isle Abeens (without taking them and releasing them shortly thereafter). If you refuse to take them into your party/box they'll stay there forever until you do, taking up space for any more wild ones to show up.
22nd May '17 5:03:50 PM N8han11
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** In addition, the National Dex no longer exists in the games -- every Pokémon in-game is identified in the party or PC by their Alola Pokédex number. Gone are the days of easily being able to check which Pokémon you own and/or have seen. In order to check the entries, cry, animations etc. of Pokémon not in the Alola Dex, you'll need to use Pokémon Bank after the Generation VII update is released sometime in January 2017, two months after the release of ''Sun'' and ''Moon''. On the plus side, having only the Alola Dex to complete makes getting the Oval and Shiny Charms much easier.

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** In addition, the National Dex no longer exists in the games -- every Pokémon in-game is identified in the party or PC by their Alola Pokédex number. Gone are the days of easily being able to check which Pokémon you own and/or have seen. In order to check the entries, cry, animations etc. of Pokémon not in the Alola Dex, you'll need to use Pokémon Bank after the Generation VII update is released sometime in January 2017, two months after the release of ''Sun'' and ''Moon''.Bank. On the plus side, having only the Alola Dex to complete makes getting the Oval and Shiny Charms much easier.
18th May '17 2:28:28 PM Meloelebi
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* Many Gyms have gimmicks that are borderline GuideDangIt in case you want to get straight to the Leader while avoiding the other Trainers. While this is very hard to do, it is feasible (the Saffron Gym is an example) - but only, as mentioned, if you have a guide handy so you'll know where to go (again, the teleporters in the Saffron Gym are an example; another frustrating one is the Opelucid Gym in ''Black/White'' and ''Black 2/White 2'' where you have to step on switches on the dragons' hands so they'll go up or down and, depending on the hands' position, the statue's head will go up or down, enabling you to go where you want - or not). Even if you don't intend to take on the Leader right away, you may find yourself running in circles so often to the point of being frustrating ([[RunningGag once again]], the Saffron City Gym is guilty of this; first-timers may also have a hard time with the rollercoasters in the Nimbasa Gym).

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* Many Gyms have gimmicks that are borderline GuideDangIt in case you want to get straight to the Leader while avoiding the other Trainers. While this is very hard to do, it is feasible (the Saffron Gym is an example) - but only, as mentioned, if you have a guide handy so you'll know where to go (again, the teleporters in the Saffron Gym are an example; another frustrating one is the Opelucid Gym in ''Black/White'' and ''Black 2/White 2'' where you have to step on switches on the dragons' hands so they'll go up or down and, depending on the hands' position, the statue's head will go up or down, enabling you to go where you want - or not). Even if you don't intend to take on the Leader right away, you may find yourself running in circles so often to the point of being frustrating ([[RunningGag once again]], the Saffron City Gym is guilty of this; first-timers may also have a hard time with the rollercoasters in the Nimbasa Gym).
10th May '17 6:55:34 PM HeroicJay
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** [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon The seventh generation]], at least so far, is the first generation since the originals to completely do away with this, thankfully. Ultra Beasts and Necrozma are the closest things, since they're found in random encounters, but the game outright tells you which routes they occupy (except Necrozma, but even he is always found in the same place), they don't flee the battle or roam from route to route, and they don't even have their stats predetermined until they appear, meaning SaveScumming is a valid option once more. Heck, you can knock one out and then run into it again immediately afterward, without even having to re-fight the Elite 4.
10th May '17 6:32:28 PM MayIncon
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** ''Omega Ruby'' and Alpha Sapphire'' saved [=PokéNav=] in the form of [=AreaNav=] where it functions similarly, but the trainers are more prone to be rematched and they can have teams up to somewhere around the 50s in the postgame, making it easier to grind levels from than in the originals.
10th May '17 6:02:31 PM phineas81707
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* The new fishing mechanics can be a pain. Now, there is a 1 in 3 chance of getting a Pokémon encounter (the other possibilities are nothing and an item). Due to the limitations of fishing zones and the removal of multiple fishing rods(since it is tied to the Lapras Poké Ride) the high encounter rates for Magikarp cannot be lowered outside of bubbling spots. Good luck finding a Pokémon that is not Magikarp. It got so bad that you could offer up a Pokémon caught by fishing for something very nice on the GTS Market.

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* The new fishing mechanics can be a pain. Now, there is a 1 in 3 chance of getting a Pokémon encounter (the other possibilities are nothing and an item). Due to the limitations of fishing zones and the removal of multiple fishing rods(since it is tied to the Lapras Poké Ride) rods the high encounter rates for Magikarp cannot be lowered outside of bubbling spots. Good luck finding a Pokémon that is not Magikarp. It got so bad that you could offer up a Pokémon caught by fishing for something very nice on the GTS Market.
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