History Sandbox / TropePantheons

31st Aug '16 8:56:44 AM HotmanX32
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* BreakoutVillain: Villainous deities are capable of being this, with [[TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Shredder]] as the God of it.

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* BreakoutVillain: BreakoutVillain:
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Villainous deities are capable of being this, with [[TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Shredder]] as the God of it.



** Exceptions do exist. For instance:
*** Both [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara Date Masamune and Mori Motonari]] are decidedly different with their [[VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors Musou]] counterparts, with Motonari not bothered enough to care, and Masamune condemning his alternate self's SmugSnake attitude and [[VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi alignment with Orochi]].
*** The Gods from the ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' are also different from the Gods in the Pantheon.
*** [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} The Belmonts (and Alucard and Sypha) and Dracula]] are mostly taken from the IGA-timeline, being different than the ones in the ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow Lords of Shadow]]'' continuity (thus Dracula is still Mathias Cronqvist, not Gabriel Belmont, although the latter ascended on his own).
*** There's also two Gilgameshes in both the houses of Weapons and Mentalism who crossed swords with each other.
*** The less said about the WesternAnimation/{{Captain N|The Game Master}} incarnations of [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaIIIDraculasCurse Simon, Alucard and Sypha]], [[BerserkButton the better]].
*** There's also two Hades. [[Disney/{{Hercules}} One of them has a comedic personality]], and [[Videogame/KidIcarusUprising the other is much more sinister.]] Amusingly enough, the former eventually became a CompositeCharacter with the original Hades from the Greek myths, [[VideoGame/{{Smite}} or at least one portrayal of him]].



* DecompositeCharacter:
** Both [[VideoGame/SengokuBasara Date Masamune and Mori Motonari]] are decidedly different with their [[VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors Musou]] counterparts, with Motonari not bothered enough to care, and Masamune condemning his alternate self's SmugSnake attitude and [[VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi alignment with Orochi]].
** The Gods from the ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' are also different from the Gods in the Pantheon.
** [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} The Belmonts (and Alucard and Sypha) and Dracula]] are mostly taken from the IGA-timeline, being different than the ones in the ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow Lords of Shadow]]'' continuity (thus Dracula is still Mathias Cronqvist, not Gabriel elmont, although the latter ascended on his own).
** There's also two Gilgameshes in both the houses of Weapons and Mentalism who crossed swords with each other.
** The less said about the WesternAnimation/{{Captain N|The Game Master}} incarnations of [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaIIIDraculasCurse Simon, Alucard and Sypha]], [[BerserkButton the better]].
** There's also two Hades. [[Disney/{{Hercules}} One of them has a comedic personality]], and [[Videogame/KidIcarusUprising the other is much more sinister.]] Amusingly enough, the former eventually became a CompositeCharacter with the original Hades from the Greek myths, [[VideoGame/{{Smite}} or at least one portrayal of him]].



* {{Deconstruction}}: The whole "mess with Mithra and Asura will kick your ass" rule to a T. While still a rule that should be followed at all costs, Asura went too far after Hayate mistakes Mithra for his Ojou-sama due to [[Creator/RieKugimiya certain similarities]], and proceeded [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to do what he does best to him]]. Nagi declared that, regardless of his reasons, she would never forgive him, and Hinagiku lost all respect for him.
** And, of course, GenUrobuchi is this trope's god.

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* {{Deconstruction}}: The whole "mess with Mithra and Asura will kick your ass" rule to a T. While still a rule that should be followed at all costs, Asura went too far after Hayate mistakes Mithra for his Ojou-sama due to [[Creator/RieKugimiya certain similarities]], and proceeded [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to do what he does best to him]]. Nagi declared that, regardless of his reasons, she would never forgive him, and Hinagiku lost all respect for him.
** And, of course,
{{Deconstruction}}: GenUrobuchi is this trope's god.



*** Another example is Philemon, who used to be much more of a neglectant {{Jerkass}} prior to the removal of the Nyarlathotep incident. After a [[WhatTheHellHero a punch to the face]] by Tatsuya Suou, he's become a nicer deity.

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*** Another example is Philemon, who used to be much more of a neglectant negligent {{Jerkass}} prior to the removal aftermath of the Nyarlathotep incident. After a [[WhatTheHellHero a punch to the face]] by Tatsuya Suou, he's become a nicer deity.
14th Aug '16 10:04:29 AM nombretomado
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* BigGood: Despite having [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Cosmos]] as the Goddess of it, there are other Gods that function the same. Examples include {{Superman}}, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, [[MisterRogersNeighborhood Mr Rogers]], Lamington, and [[Franchise/MassEffect Commander Shepard]].

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* BigGood: Despite having [[DissidiaFinalFantasy [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Cosmos]] as the Goddess of it, there are other Gods that function the same. Examples include {{Superman}}, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, [[MisterRogersNeighborhood Mr Rogers]], Lamington, and [[Franchise/MassEffect Commander Shepard]].
6th Aug '16 12:41:38 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Melkor, The Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Evil, usually takes this position, though the fact he usually sits back and gives orders makes him more of an overall BiggerBad. That said, any villain can be this position during a story arc.

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** Melkor, The Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Evil, usually takes this position, though the fact he usually sits back and gives orders makes him more of an overall BiggerBad.a GreaterScopeVillain. That said, any villain can be this position during a story arc.



** [[spoiler: BiggerBad: [[VideoGame/{{Persona 2}} Nyarlathotep]]]]

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** [[spoiler: BiggerBad: TheManBehindTheMan: [[VideoGame/{{Persona 2}} Nyarlathotep]]]]
6th Aug '16 12:35:39 AM ChrisX
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* DrJekyllAndMrHyde: As a result of the CompositeCharacter in play, this happens to UsefulNotes/AkechiMitsuhide, who in his better days present himself as his conflicted, but good hearted and loyal self from VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors, but on bad days (mostly night), he took form of the AxCrazy PsychoForHire self from VideoGame/SengokuBasara
27th Jul '16 9:12:29 AM HotmanX32
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* AbusiveParents: [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Ghetsis]], [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Relius]], [[Videogame/{{Bioshock 2}} Sophia Lamb]], [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Gendo]], [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyo]], and [[Videogame/{{Tekken}} Kazuya and Heihachi]]. Special mention goes to the latter two as Jin Kazama opposes them both.

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* AbusiveParents: AbusiveParents:
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[[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Ghetsis]], [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Relius]], [[Videogame/{{Bioshock 2}} Sophia Lamb]], [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Gendo]], [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyo]], and [[Videogame/{{Tekken}} Kazuya and Heihachi]]. Special mention goes to the latter two as Jin Kazama opposes them both.



* AlmightyJanitor: A number of the gods fill this, with [[OddJobGods odd portfolios]] that belie ''overwhelming power.'' Some deities are ranked Lesser Gods, but have skills of to that of Intermediate or Greater Gods, but never an Overdeity. A prime example is Flynn from VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV. He is the God of Samurai Ponytails. He is also a Greater God and a [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei Megaten]] [[{{Badass}} Protagonist]] who's gone toe-to-toe with Lucifer himself and come out on top.

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* AlmightyJanitor: AlmightyJanitor:
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A number of the gods fill this, with [[OddJobGods odd portfolios]] that belie ''overwhelming power.'' Some deities are ranked Lesser Gods, but have skills of to that of Intermediate or Greater Gods, but never an Overdeity. A prime example is Flynn from VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV. He is the God of Samurai Ponytails. He is also a Greater God and a [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei Megaten]] [[{{Badass}} Protagonist]] who's gone toe-to-toe with Lucifer himself and come out on top.



* AntiAntiChrist: The current Goddess is Raspberyl, but another prominent member is Artix von Krieger, [[spoiler: the Champion of Darkness who fights as an Undead Slayer]].

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* AntiAntiChrist: AntiAntiChrist:
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The current Goddess is Raspberyl, but another prominent member is Artix von Krieger, [[spoiler: the Champion of Darkness who fights as an Undead Slayer]].



* AscendedExtra: The GUAG White Hats originally started off as a minor group called the Hacking Trio, formed by Otacon, Bentley, and Radical Ed. The events of the Friendship Asylum got the attention of Cosmos, and she allowed the hackers to become an official group of the GUAG.
* AssholeVictim: The tales have [[spoiler: Mitsuzane Kureshima, whose actions to create Alternate!Gentaro had Gentaro gunning after him, and then having his body gutted, limbs sliced off and other graphic details.]] This is further supplied by how [[spoiler: the rest of the gods in the Lesser House of Villains were more amazed at ''who'' did it, and the group that was going to see him telling that he "fucked himself up".]]

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* AscendedExtra: The GUAG White Hats originally started off as a minor group called the Hacking Trio, formed by Otacon, Bentley, and Radical Ed. The events of the Friendship Asylum got the attention of Cosmos, Cosmos and[=/=]or her associates, and she allowed the hackers to become an official group of to the GUAG.
* AssholeVictim: AssholeVictim:
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The tales have [[spoiler: Mitsuzane Kureshima, whose actions to create Alternate!Gentaro had Gentaro gunning after him, and then having his body gutted, limbs sliced off and other graphic details.]] This is further supplied by how [[spoiler: the rest of the gods in the Lesser House of Villains were more amazed at ''who'' did it, and the group that was going to see him telling that he "fucked himself up".]]



* TheAtoner: The Current God is Sol Badguy.

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* TheAtoner: TheAtoner:
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The Current God is Sol Badguy.



* BigBad: Melkor, The Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Evil, usually takes this position, though the fact he usually sits back and gives orders makes him more of an overall BiggerBad. That said, any villain can be this position during a story arc.
** BigBadEnsemble: Other than Melkor, the position for BigBad currently seems to be contested between YHVH and Lucifer, both deities [[OutsideContextProblem utterly unaffiliated]] with either Grand United Alliance, surprisingly - in fact, they're forming their own alliances and are going against both Cosmos and Melkor as well as each other, turning the once clear-cut Tales of the Alliance into a MASSIVE battle royale.

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* BigBad: BigBad:
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Melkor, The Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Evil, usually takes this position, though the fact he usually sits back and gives orders makes him more of an overall BiggerBad. That said, any villain can be this position during a story arc.
** BigBadEnsemble: Other than Melkor, the position for BigBad currently seems to be contested between YHVH and Lucifer, both deities [[OutsideContextProblem utterly unaffiliated]] with either Grand United Alliance, surprisingly - in fact, they're forming their own alliances and are going against both Cosmos and Melkor as well as each other, turning the once clear-cut Tales of the Alliance into a MASSIVE battle royale.
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** BigBadWannabe: For "Project: Alternate Gentaro" [[spoiler:Mitsuzane Kureshima is this. While he wants Gentaro to feel despair, he just didn't expect the shit-ton of gods beating him to oblivion and how no one is willing to help him out.]]

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** * BigBadEnsemble: Other than Melkor, the position for BigBad currently seems to be contested between YHVH and Lucifer, both deities [[OutsideContextProblem utterly unaffiliated]] with either Grand United Alliance, surprisingly - in fact, they're forming their own alliances and are going against both Cosmos and Melkor as well as each other, turning the once clear-cut Tales of the Alliance into a MASSIVE battle royale.
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BigBadWannabe: For "Project: Alternate Gentaro" [[spoiler:Mitsuzane Kureshima is this. While he wants Gentaro to feel despair, he just didn't expect the shit-ton of gods beating him to oblivion and how no one is willing to help him out.]]



* BrainwashedAndCrazy: Some of the gods in "The Friendship Asylum" arc have been corrupted by the asylum itself. This list includes: [[spoiler:Sora, Sly Cooper, Jason Brody, Link, Jaune Arc, Ash Ketchum, and Weiss Schnee.]]

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* BrainwashedAndCrazy: BrainwashedAndCrazy:
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Some of the gods in "The Friendship Asylum" arc have been corrupted by the asylum itself. This list includes: [[spoiler:Sora, Sly Cooper, Jason Brody, Link, Jaune Arc, Ash Ketchum, and Weiss Schnee.]]



*** Thanks to Applejack, the newly commissioned House of Personality is this due to her disgust of all the [[TheChessmaster planners and schemers]] in the House of Mentalism. [[spoiler: Not that it stops Nyarlathotep from screwing the House of Personality over.]]

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*** Thanks to Applejack, the newly Applejack has commissioned House of Personality is this due to her because of she got disgust of with things: One was all the [[TheChessmaster planners and schemers]] in the House of Mentalism.Mentalism, and two was the very few lightbulbs around the pantheon. [[spoiler: Not that it stops Nyarlathotep from screwing the House of Personality over.]]



* NoHoldsBarredBeatDown: Pretty much every time someone pushes on of the above mentioned {{Berserk Button}}s ends with one of these.

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* NoHoldsBarredBeatDown: NoHoldsBarredBeatDown:
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Pretty much every time someone pushes on of the above mentioned {{Berserk Button}}s ends with one of these.



* NoodleIncident: Some can be downright hilarious. Can be a case of ItMakesSenseInContext if the said incident is a reference to the god's series what doesn't get explained properly.

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* NoodleIncident: Some can be downright hilarious. Can be a case of ItMakesSenseInContext if the said incident is a reference to the god's series what that doesn't get explained properly.properly. Examples include:



* OhCrap: Wiz and Boomstick had announced as of 5/17/14, that '''Godzilla''' will be participating in a Death Battle against one of his followers, Gamera. '''Everyone''' in the Pantheon is freaking out and planning to evacuate the area.

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* OhCrap: OhCrap:
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Wiz and Boomstick had announced as of 5/17/14, that '''Godzilla''' will be participating in a Death Battle against one of his followers, Gamera. '''Everyone''' in the Pantheon is freaking out and planning to evacuate the area.



* OldShame: Invoked. [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Arturia]], while possessing the Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail elements, seems more pissed and ashamed with those escapades, and is trying her best to rectify the 'shame', like refusing to sing The Camelot Song, giving praise about Camelot instead of considering it a 'silly place', and having a hidden desire to defeat Black Beast!Ragna just to prove that she could survive something similar to the Black Beast of AAAAAUUUUGGGHHH without [[DeusExMachina its animator suffering a fatal heart attack]].

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* OldShame: OldShame:
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Invoked. [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Arturia]], while possessing the Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail elements, seems more pissed and ashamed with those escapades, and is trying her best to rectify the 'shame', like refusing to sing The Camelot Song, giving praise about Camelot instead of considering it a 'silly place', and having a hidden desire to defeat Black Beast!Ragna just to prove that she could survive something similar to the Black Beast of AAAAAUUUUGGGHHH without [[DeusExMachina its animator suffering a fatal heart attack]].



* OrcusOnHisThrone: The Overdeities, despite being the mightiest figures in the Pantheon, are rarely featured in stories about the gods compared to most of the other members ranked below them. However, some of them will step in to eliminate some nuisances..

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* OrcusOnHisThrone: OrcusOnHisThrone:
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The Overdeities, despite being the mightiest figures in the Pantheon, are rarely featured in stories about the gods compared to most of the other members ranked below them. However, some of them will step in to eliminate some nuisances..



*** Another one is Gen Urobutchi who lords over the Puella Madoka and Gaim gods. He's not getting in neither the Great Upheaval ''or'' "Project: Alternate Gentaro" (although he feels sorry for the Kureshima brothers in the latter, considering what happened.)

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*** ** Another one is Gen Urobutchi who lords over the Puella Madoka and Gaim gods. He's not getting in neither the Great Upheaval ''or'' "Project: Alternate Gentaro" (although he feels sorry for the Kureshima brothers in the latter, considering what happened.)



* SpotlightStealingSquad: The more flavor text character representatives have, the more likely they'll be featured in stories.

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* SpotlightStealingSquad: The more flavor text character representatives have, the more likely they'll be featured in stories.SpotlightStealingSquad:



** Same story goes with ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDXD'', with [[Pantheon/{{Power}} Issei]] [[Pantheon/GUAGChickMagnetQuartet Hyodo]], [[Pantheon/PersonalAppearance Rias Gremory]], [[Pantheon/{{Magic}} Asia Argento]], [[Pantheon/{{Combat}} Akeno Himejima]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Koneko Toujou]], [[Pantheon/{{Faith}} Xenovia Quarta, Irina Shidou]], [[Pantheon/{{Otherness}} Ophis]], and [[Pantheon/{{Costumes}} Kuroka]] all being deified. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg Oh, there's]] [[Pantheon/{{Power}} Vali Lucifer]], too. And [[Pantheon/{{Romance}} Raynare]].

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** *** Same story goes with ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDXD'', with [[Pantheon/{{Power}} Issei]] [[Pantheon/GUAGChickMagnetQuartet Hyodo]], [[Pantheon/PersonalAppearance Rias Gremory]], [[Pantheon/{{Magic}} Asia Argento]], [[Pantheon/{{Combat}} Akeno Himejima]], [[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Koneko Toujou]], [[Pantheon/{{Faith}} Xenovia Quarta, Irina Shidou]], [[Pantheon/{{Otherness}} Ophis]], and [[Pantheon/{{Costumes}} Kuroka]] all being deified. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg Oh, there's]] [[Pantheon/{{Power}} Vali Lucifer]], too. And [[Pantheon/{{Romance}} Raynare]].



* SuperPoweredEvilSide: In a way, [[spoiler:Oktavia von Seckendorff]] for [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Sayaka Miki]], before [[spoiler:it was successfully turned into a {{VideoGame/Persona}}]].

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* SuperPoweredEvilSide: SuperPoweredEvilSide:
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In a way, [[spoiler:Oktavia von Seckendorff]] for [[Pantheon/{{Narrative}} Sayaka Miki]], before [[spoiler:it was successfully turned into a {{VideoGame/Persona}}]].



* SweetPollyOliver: [[spoiler:In "Muse Hysteria", Kairi disguised herself in a thief outfit with a voice modulator to help find a way to stop Alternate!Gentaro from going after her fellow Princesses of Heart]].

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* SweetPollyOliver: SweetPollyOliver:
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[[spoiler:In "Muse Hysteria", Kairi disguised herself in a thief outfit with a voice modulator to help find a way to stop Alternate!Gentaro from going after her fellow Princesses of Heart]].



* ThrowTheDogABone: There are some moments here and there.
** Notably, 2013 is the Year of Luigi, which the green plumber is finally treated like something other than a Second Banana. Somehow, of all people, Solid Snake defends him over this.

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* ThrowTheDogABone: There are some moments here and there.
** Notably,
2013 is the Year of Luigi, which the green plumber is finally treated like something other than a Second Banana. Somehow, of all people, Solid Snake defends him over this.



* TokenGoodTeammate: The Re-Education Facility. These gods were ForcedIntoEvil for various, unknown reasons; It's monitored by [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], [[VideoGame/WarCraft Arthas Menethil]] and [[Franchise/MortalKombat Quan Chi]]. [[spoiler: [[Videogame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater The Boss,]] is only in it to backstab the GUAE.]]

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* TokenGoodTeammate: TokenGoodTeammate:
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The Re-Education Facility. These gods were ForcedIntoEvil for various, unknown reasons; It's monitored by [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]], [[VideoGame/WarCraft Arthas Menethil]] and [[Franchise/MortalKombat Quan Chi]]. [[spoiler: [[Videogame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater The Boss,]] is only in it to backstab the GUAE.]]



* UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny: Happens a lot, but there is an unofficial rule that any battles recorded in ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' (which is this trope) must be put in the participants' flavor texts. In case an existing God lost to a non-deity, then either an extra flavor text must be included to make the losing God look not too bad, or the non-deity will find a portfolio to ascend.
** Speaking of this trope, the current God is Fred Rogers.

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* UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny: Happens a lot, but there is an unofficial rule that any battles recorded in ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' (which is this trope) must be put in the participants' flavor texts. In case an existing God lost to a non-deity, then either an extra flavor text must be included to make the losing God look not too bad, or the non-deity will find a portfolio to ascend.
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ascend. Speaking of this trope, the current God is Fred Rogers.
27th Jul '16 8:31:07 AM TPPR10
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* NoodleIncident: Some can be downright hilarious.

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* NoodleIncident: Some can be downright hilarious. Can be a case of ItMakesSenseInContext if the said incident is a reference to the god's series what doesn't get explained properly.
27th Jul '16 12:44:22 AM ChrisX
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** Kokonoe, Rachel, and their allies have developed an extreme case of this mentality in the Morality Civil War. It's to the point where some of them want to have Litchi mercilessly punished like some unforgivable criminal for reluctantly siding with Terumi and Relius and not going with what they say which coincidences with the 'greater good': Forget Arakune.

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** Kokonoe, Rachel, and their allies have developed an extreme case of this mentality in the Morality Civil War. It's to the point where some of them want to have Litchi mercilessly punished like some unforgivable criminal for reluctantly siding with Terumi and Relius and not going with what they say which coincidences with the 'greater good': Forget Arakune. On the other hand, this becomes a case of BothSidesHaveAPoint: Litchi can't seem to refuse ''any'' offers or tricks that involve "Can save Arakune", making her very much an easy target for manipulation of evil, until the time comes when she is seen refusing an offer that can save Arakune, Kokonoe and Rachel have a point to warn others that she could be close enough to be a villain.
17th Jul '16 9:25:54 PM ChrisX
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** Speaking of Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, with the release of ''VideoGame/HearthstoneHeroesOfWarcraft'', many old vanilla bosses are making a huge comeback thanks to its popularity.

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** Speaking of Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, with the release of ''VideoGame/HearthstoneHeroesOfWarcraft'', many old vanilla bosses are making a huge comeback thanks to its popularity. Likewise, while they haven't been getting into big stories, after the release and success of ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', many of its characters start popping their head in.
17th Jul '16 9:24:13 PM ChrisX
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** Kokonoe, Rachel, and their allies have developed an extreme case of this mentality in the Morality Civil War. It's to the point where some of them want to kill Litchi for reluctantly siding with Terumi and Relius.

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** Kokonoe, Rachel, and their allies have developed an extreme case of this mentality in the Morality Civil War. It's to the point where some of them want to kill have Litchi mercilessly punished like some unforgivable criminal for reluctantly siding with Terumi and Relius.Relius and not going with what they say which coincidences with the 'greater good': Forget Arakune.
17th Jul '16 7:37:03 PM Discar
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** BigBadEnsemble: Other than Melkor, the position for BigBad currently seems to be contested between YHVH and Lucifer, both deities [[OutsideContextVillain utterly unaffiliated]] with either Grand United Alliance, surprisingly - in fact, they're forming their own alliances and are going against both Cosmos and Melkor as well as each other, turning the once clear-cut Tales of the Alliance into a MASSIVE battle royale.

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** BigBadEnsemble: Other than Melkor, the position for BigBad currently seems to be contested between YHVH and Lucifer, both deities [[OutsideContextVillain [[OutsideContextProblem utterly unaffiliated]] with either Grand United Alliance, surprisingly - in fact, they're forming their own alliances and are going against both Cosmos and Melkor as well as each other, turning the once clear-cut Tales of the Alliance into a MASSIVE battle royale.



* OutsideContextVillain: Lucifer and YHVH. The first few Tales of the Alliance stories had to do with, as one may have guessed, fights between the Grand United Alliance of Good and the Grand United Alliance of Evil. Lucifer and YHVH are not affiliated with either: in fact, "Good" and "Evil" are not so easily applied to them at all as much as [[BlueAndOrangeMorality "Chaos" and "Law".]]

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* OutsideContextVillain: OutsideGenreFoe: Lucifer and YHVH. The first few Tales of the Alliance stories had to do with, as one may have guessed, fights between the Grand United Alliance of Good and the Grand United Alliance of Evil. Lucifer and YHVH are not affiliated with either: in fact, "Good" and "Evil" are not so easily applied to them at all as much as [[BlueAndOrangeMorality "Chaos" and "Law".]]
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