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28th Oct '17 2:23:39 AM Dere
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* Chris Thorndyke from ''Anime/SonicX'', in the final two series, after being given a PlotRelevantAgeUp and some actual ''abilities'', plus being portrayed as being significantly less clingy and self absorbed.

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* Chris Thorndyke from ''Anime/SonicX'', ''Anime/SonicX'' in the final two second series, after gaining some actual ''abilities'' and being given a PlotRelevantAgeUp and some actual ''abilities'', plus being portrayed as being CharacterDevelopment, becoming significantly more mature and less clingy and self absorbed.absorbed as a result. Not to mention becoming much less of a [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealer]].
13th Sep '17 4:28:19 AM bleach246
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* As of the last few years the ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' series has actually gone a long way to making Precia Testarossa a much more sympathetic TragicVillain. When she was introduced in the shows first season she was [[HateSink hated]] pretty much instantly thanks to her first scene wherein she was shown [[AbusiveParents horrifically whipping]] [[TheWoobie Fate]] while the latter was tied up [[KickTheDog for not collecting enough Jewel Seeds]]. This hatred only increased when she revealed to Fate at the end of the season [[spoiler: that she was just a clone of Precia's daughter Alicia and that [[KickTheDog she had always hated Fate]]]]. The fact that [[spoiler: she ended up ([[DisneyVillainDeath presumably]]) falling to her death instead of having a fight with any of the main protagonists also left a bad taste in a lot of viewers mouths]] with many fans hoping she would return just so she could get the ass kicking she deserved. However with the release of the first movie fans actually got to see a more sympathetic side to Precia [[spoiler: seeing her hold Alicia's lifeless corpse in her hands and realizing as she fell to her death that she could have treated Fate like an actual daughter instead of a tool]]. This continued in ''VideoGame/GearsOfDestiny'' wherein she reconciles with her familiar Linith at the end of their arc [[TogetherInDeath as the two die peacefully in each others arms]]. Finally we have ''[[Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaINNOCENT INNOCENT]]'', wherein Precia becomes a [[DotingParent Doting Mother]] to both Alicia ''and'' Fate (as well as being funny to boot). Suffice it to say these portrayals have gone a lone way to making Preica much more sympathetic in the fandoms eyes (it properly helps that audiences were introduced to the much more universally reviled [[InvincibleVillain Hücke]][[CreatorsPet bein]] about the same time, and in addition, there are worse mothers in anime introduced after this time frame, [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyo Kiryuin]] is a good example of that, that Precia's old stigma of being anime's "Worst Mother Ever" has been passed down to someone else).

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* As of the last few years the ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' series has actually gone a long way to making Precia Testarossa a much more sympathetic TragicVillain. When she was introduced in the shows first season she was [[HateSink hated]] pretty much instantly thanks to her first scene wherein she was shown [[AbusiveParents horrifically whipping]] [[TheWoobie Fate]] while the latter was tied up [[KickTheDog for not collecting enough Jewel Seeds]]. This hatred only increased when she revealed to Fate at the end of the season [[spoiler: that she was just a clone of Precia's daughter Alicia and that [[KickTheDog she had always hated Fate]]]]. The fact that [[spoiler: she ended up ([[DisneyVillainDeath presumably]]) falling to her death instead of having a fight with any of the main protagonists also left a bad taste in a lot of viewers mouths]] with many fans hoping she would return just so she could get the ass kicking she deserved. However with the release of the first movie fans actually got to see a more sympathetic side to Precia [[spoiler: seeing her hold Alicia's lifeless corpse in her hands and realizing as she fell to her death that she could have treated Fate like an actual daughter instead of a tool]]. This continued in ''VideoGame/GearsOfDestiny'' wherein she reconciles with her familiar Linith at the end of their arc [[TogetherInDeath as the two die peacefully in each others arms]]. Finally we have ''[[Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaINNOCENT INNOCENT]]'', wherein Precia becomes a [[DotingParent Doting Mother]] to both Alicia ''and'' Fate (as well as being funny to boot). Suffice it to say these portrayals have gone a lone long way to making Preica much more sympathetic in the fandoms eyes (it properly helps that audiences were introduced to the much more universally reviled [[InvincibleVillain Hücke]][[CreatorsPet bein]] about the same time, and in addition, there are worse mothers in anime introduced after this time frame, [[Anime/KillLaKill Ragyo Kiryuin]] is a good example of that, that Precia's old stigma of being anime's "Worst Mother Ever" has been passed down to someone else).
13th Aug '17 1:00:33 PM DevinMeenan
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** In a cross-media example, Lysandre and Team Flare; their game versions are widely considered the worst villainous team in the series due to their rushed plot and generic motivations. In the anime, however, they're widely considered the ''best'' villainous team; unlike the previous teams, whose schemes were B-plots at best, Team Flare receives proper build-up throughout the ''XYZ'' season and their actions [[spoiler: including using Alain, a friend of the heroes, as an UnwittingPawn]] prove to be the driving force of the plot. The anime version of Lysandre in particular has been praised, even among ''XY'''s detractors, for finally giving the series a proper BigBad.

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** In a cross-media example, Lysandre and Team Flare; their game versions are widely considered the worst villainous team in the series due to their rushed plot and generic motivations. In the anime, however, they're widely considered the ''best'' villainous team; unlike the previous teams, whose schemes were B-plots at best, best and [[TrappedByMountainLions distractions at worst]], Team Flare receives proper build-up throughout the ''XYZ'' season and season, their actions [[spoiler: including using Alain, a friend of the heroes, as an UnwittingPawn]] prove to be the driving force of the plot.plot, and the resolution of their plot is anything ''but'' an AntiClimax. The anime version of Lysandre in particular has been praised, even among ''XY'''s detractors, for finally giving the series a proper BigBad.
13th Aug '17 12:58:31 PM DevinMeenan
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** In a cross-media example, Lysandre and Team Flare; their game versions are widely considered the worst villainous team in the series due to their rushed plot and generic motivations. In the anime, however, they're widely considered the ''best'' villainous team; unlike the previous teams, whose schemes were B-plots at best, Team Flare receives proper build-up throughout the ''XYZ'' season and their actions [[spoiler: including using Alain, a friend of the heroes, as an UnwittingPawn]] prove to be the driving force of the plot. The anime version of Lysandre in particular has been praised, even among ''XY'''s detractors, for finally giving the series a proper BigBad.
19th Jun '17 10:16:48 AM rafi
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* Many a fan of ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' profoundly hates Seiya for only winning his fights due to support from others. His author, Masami Kurumada, seemed to get the message when he made ''Anime/BtX'', which features many {{exp|y}}ies from his previous works, as was his style. Seiya's expy Teppei, while still very brash and headstrong, has a strong resolve to stand on his own two feet and delivers. To make sure he didn't veer off too much in the opposite direction, however, he ''does'' see what happens when he ignores his B't [[spoiler: when he nearly dies against the 5th Point Soldier]], and a balance is struck. More than a few fans agree Teppei is much more likable.
** Also, the fans seem a lot fonder to Seiya ever since his appearance in ''Anime/SaintSeiyaOmega''.
12th May '17 8:51:15 PM VulgarBee
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** As of post-time skip, [[{{Tsundere}} Nami]] has since matured. Character Development was starting to kick in already at Thriller Bark, where her concern for money didn't get in the way of her friendship with others.
8th May '17 9:09:47 AM mouschilight
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* The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime :

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8th May '17 1:53:32 AM mouschilight
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** Also happened to Karin when Sasuke sacrificing her to kill Danzo turned her into TheWoobie. Although she survived, she made it clear she didn't care about Sasuke after what he did. Not only did this remove her from the shipping equation, but she also displayed, what some fans believe, more common sense than other characters in the series. Although that fell flat when she reunites with Team Taka after that and [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives Sasuke]] after he just awkwardly mutters a "Sorry, Karin". While some found that hilarious, a lot of readers didn't take that well and quickly called her the most pathetic female character in the manga (which is saying something).

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** Also This also happened to Karin when Sasuke sacrificing her to kill Danzo turned her into TheWoobie. Although she survived, she made it clear she didn't care about Sasuke after what he did. Not only did this remove her from the shipping equation, but she also displayed, what some fans believe, more common sense than other characters in the series. Although that fell flat when she reunites with Team Taka after that and [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives Sasuke]] after he just awkwardly mutters a "Sorry, Karin". While some found that hilarious, a lot of readers didn't take that well and quickly called her the most pathetic female character in the manga (which is saying something).
8th May '17 1:51:48 AM mouschilight
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** Sakura went through this at the start of Part II due to CharacterDevelopment, [[TookALevelInBadass becoming stronger]], and becoming a [[TheMedic competent medical ninja]]. However, she quickly became TheScrappy again because she didn't really do anything significant after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her awesome fight against Sasori]]. She all but cemented her Scrappy status after her [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] [[FalseConfession fake love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, and generally crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I. However, her CoolBigSis role around both [[TwiceShy Naruto and Hinata]] in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' and [[ShipperOnDeck genuinely trying to bring them together]] did manage to regain some of her former glory that she once had at the start of Part II. Unfortunately, that ''also'' didn't last for too long, and she ultimately cemented herself as a major BaseBreakingCharacter as of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.

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** Sakura went through this at the start of Part II due to CharacterDevelopment, [[TookALevelInBadass becoming stronger]], and becoming a [[TheMedic competent medical ninja]]. However, she quickly became TheScrappy again because she didn't really do anything significant after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her awesome fight against Sasori]]. She all but cemented her Scrappy status after her [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] [[FalseConfession fake love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, and generally her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I. However, her CoolBigSis role around both [[TwiceShy Naruto and Hinata]] in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' and [[ShipperOnDeck genuinely trying to bring them together]] did manage to regain some of her former glory that she once had at the start of Part II. Unfortunately, that ''also'' didn't last for too long, and she ultimately cemented herself as a major BaseBreakingCharacter as of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.
3rd May '17 1:41:29 PM mouschilight
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** Sakura went through this at the start of Part II due to CharacterDevelopment, [[TookALevelInBadass becoming stronger]], and becoming a [[CombatMedic competent medical ninja]]. However, she quickly became TheScrappy again because she didn't really do anything significant after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her awesome fight against Sasori]]. She all but cemented her Scrappy status after her [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] [[FalseConfession fake love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, and generally crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I. However, her CoolBigSis role around both [[TwiceShy Naruto and Hinata]] in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' and [[ShipperOnDeck genuinely trying to bring them together]] did manage to regain some of her former glory that she once had at the start of Part II. Unfortunately, that ''also'' didn't last for too long, and she ultimately cemented herself as a major BaseBreakingCharacter as of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.

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** Sakura went through this at the start of Part II due to CharacterDevelopment, [[TookALevelInBadass becoming stronger]], and becoming a [[CombatMedic [[TheMedic competent medical ninja]]. However, she quickly became TheScrappy again because she didn't really do anything significant after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her awesome fight against Sasori]]. She all but cemented her Scrappy status after her [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] [[FalseConfession fake love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, and generally crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I. However, her CoolBigSis role around both [[TwiceShy Naruto and Hinata]] in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' and [[ShipperOnDeck genuinely trying to bring them together]] did manage to regain some of her former glory that she once had at the start of Part II. Unfortunately, that ''also'' didn't last for too long, and she ultimately cemented herself as a major BaseBreakingCharacter as of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.
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