History ReplacementScrappy / VideoGames

20th Jun '17 9:14:22 AM Piterpicher
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** Another aversion comes in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'': if Mordin dies in the second game, he is replaced by Padok Wiks. BioWare was clearly aware of this trope, and many comparisons are made in-universe [[LampshadeHanging (Joker even calls him "Not-Mordin")]], but talking to Wiks shows that he is a well-developed character in his own right, who, [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute despite many similarities]], [[SubvertedTrope acts as a foil to Mordin in some areas]]. Following the [[spoiler: curing (or not) of the [[SterilityPlague Genophage]], which requires the real or faked death of Padok]], Bioware shows how confident they are in Padok as a character by having Joker and Shepard retract the "Not-Mordin" moniker and use his real name. Most players will agree with them.

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** Another aversion comes in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'': if Mordin dies in the second game, he is replaced by Padok Wiks. BioWare Creator/BioWare was clearly aware of this trope, and many comparisons are made in-universe [[LampshadeHanging (Joker even calls him "Not-Mordin")]], but talking to Wiks shows that he is a well-developed character in his own right, who, [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute despite many similarities]], [[SubvertedTrope acts as a foil to Mordin in some areas]]. Following the [[spoiler: curing (or not) of the [[SterilityPlague Genophage]], which requires the real or faked death of Padok]], Bioware shows how confident they are in Padok as a character by having Joker and Shepard retract the "Not-Mordin" moniker and use his real name. Most players will agree with them.
6th May '17 3:40:35 PM pinkdalek
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** While it's ''much'' less extreme now, Squall Leonhart from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' used to get a lot of hate in the 90s from fans who'd jumped onto the series blind with ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', and then grabbed the sequel, thinking they would get to find out what happened next to Cloud. Nowadays, anyone interested in ''Final Fantasy'' will know the games [[NonLinearSequel aren't that kind of a series]], and Squall haters tend to complain that he's [[EmoTeen too brooding]] rather than for not being Cloud.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' has the BadassGrandpa Galuf [[spoiler:die and]] be replaced (at his insistence) by his TokenMiniMoe granddaughter Krile. Many players felt the switch to be a downgrade since this makes the player party three-fourths princesses (since princesses have a negative stigma of their own), or because they simply preferred Galuf over Krile. She does, however, get all of his skills, jobs and stats, so it doesn't affect gameplay much (Krile's base stats are '''''slightly''''' different than Galuf's, but it's just a few points here and there).

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** While it's ''much'' less extreme now, Squall Leonhart from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' used to get a lot of hate in the 90s from fans who'd jumped onto the series blind with ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', and then grabbed the sequel, thinking they would get to find out what happened next to Cloud. the ''VII'' cast. Nowadays, anyone interested in ''Final Fantasy'' will know the games [[NonLinearSequel aren't that kind of a series]], and vocal Squall haters tend to complain that he's [[EmoTeen too brooding]] about his writing rather than for not just being confused as to why he isn't Cloud.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' **''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' has the BadassGrandpa Galuf [[spoiler:die and]] be replaced (at his insistence) by his TokenMiniMoe granddaughter Krile. Many players felt the switch to be a downgrade since this makes the player party three-fourths princesses (since princesses have a negative stigma of their own), or because they simply preferred Galuf over Krile. She does, however, get all of his skills, jobs and stats, so it doesn't affect gameplay much (Krile's base stats are '''''slightly''''' different than Galuf's, but it's just a few points here and there).
6th May '17 3:38:05 PM pinkdalek
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' has the BadassGrandpa Galuf [[spoiler:die and]] be replaced (at his insistence) by his TokenMiniMoe granddaughter Krile. Many players felt the switch to be a downgrade since this makes the player party three-fourths princesses (since princesses have a negative stigma of their own), or because they simply preferred Galuf over Krile. She does, however, get all of his skills, jobs and stats, so it doesn't affect gameplay much (Krile's base stats are '''''slightly''''' different than Galuf's, but it's just a few points here and there).

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'':
** While it's ''much'' less extreme now, Squall Leonhart from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' used to get a lot of hate in the 90s from fans who'd jumped onto the series blind with ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', and then grabbed the sequel, thinking they would get to find out what happened next to Cloud. Nowadays, anyone interested in ''Final Fantasy'' will know the games [[NonLinearSequel aren't that kind of a series]], and Squall haters tend to complain that he's [[EmoTeen too brooding]] rather than for not being Cloud.
**''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV''
has the BadassGrandpa Galuf [[spoiler:die and]] be replaced (at his insistence) by his TokenMiniMoe granddaughter Krile. Many players felt the switch to be a downgrade since this makes the player party three-fourths princesses (since princesses have a negative stigma of their own), or because they simply preferred Galuf over Krile. She does, however, get all of his skills, jobs and stats, so it doesn't affect gameplay much (Krile's base stats are '''''slightly''''' different than Galuf's, but it's just a few points here and there).
25th Apr '17 2:54:24 PM ThraggLootrippa
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* {{Invoked|Trope}} in ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' with Joshua. Replacing Shiki from the first week, his attacks are much harder to use, weaker, and don't do damage until the end of a combo (where Shiki's lay hits every step of the way), and he can't jump or block. Even though he [[MagikarpPower gets much, much more powerful later on]], to the extent that he becomes easily the strongest partner in the game, by that time the damage is done and the player is probably very annoyed with him-- perfectly mirroring [[TheHero Neku]]'s feelings about this smug, condescending, secretive, JerkAss little ''prick'' who took the place of his friend.

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* {{Invoked|Trope}} in ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' with Joshua. Replacing Shiki from the first week, his attacks are much harder to use, weaker, and don't do damage until the end of a combo (where Shiki's lay hits every step of the way), and he can't jump or block. Even though he [[MagikarpPower gets much, much more powerful later on]], to the extent that he becomes easily the strongest partner in the game, by that time the damage is done and the player is probably very annoyed with him-- perfectly mirroring [[TheHero Neku]]'s feelings about this smug, condescending, secretive, JerkAss little ''prick'' who took the place of his new, much nicer friend.
14th Apr '17 11:35:02 AM MyFinalEdits
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* Master Raven from ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}} 7'', although liked by some, is hated by many other fans because she is not the original Raven.

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Master Raven from ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}} ''Tekken 7'', although liked by some, is hated by many other fans because she is not the original Raven.



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13th Apr '17 9:01:23 PM LaptopGuy
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** It's the same with Maxi, who is similar to Li Long, although it has to be said that Maxi's fighting style is more developed. Berserker and Assassin in ''Soulcalibur II'' have the same moves as Rock and Hwang (who are not in ''SCII'') did in ''Soulcalibur''. They aren't strictly Scrappies because they're not canon to the game's story.

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** It's the same with Maxi, who is similar to Li Long, although it has to be said that Maxi's fighting style is more developed. Fortunately, he has mainly avoided this, if simply because he was the nunchaku fighter most fans got to know first.
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Berserker and Assassin in ''Soulcalibur II'' have the same moves as Rock and Hwang (who are not in ''SCII'') did in ''Soulcalibur''. They aren't strictly Scrappies because they're not canon to the game's story.story and are just one-time {{mook}}s.
** Cassandra was one for a very short time when she was thought to be replacing Sophitia. Once the latter was brought back to the console version of ''SCII'', fan opinion quickly improved.



** Plenty of the new characters in ''V'' are getting this. Xiba for replacing Kilik and being a [[Literature/JourneyToTheWest Sun Wukong]] {{Expy}} who only ever thinks about food, the above-mentioned Natsu for being arrogant and cocky rather than Taki's cold, get-the-job-done attitude, Patroklos for being a self-righteous {{Jerkass}} (even though he does get better later on in the story mode), along with Pyrrha for replacing their mother and aunt, and being a massive SpotlightStealingSquad to the rest of the characters... the list goes on.

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** Plenty of the new characters in ''V'' are getting this. Xiba for replacing Kilik and being a [[Literature/JourneyToTheWest Sun Wukong]] {{Expy}} who only ever thinks about food, the above-mentioned Natsu for being arrogant and cocky rather than Taki's cold, get-the-job-done attitude, Patroklos for being a self-righteous {{Jerkass}} (even though he does get better later on in the story mode), along with Pyrrha for replacing their mother and aunt, and being a massive SpotlightStealingSquad to the rest of the characters... the list goes on. Leixia and Pyrrha have avoided this more than others by not having such drastically different personalities from their predecessors.



** On a side note, Lucas was thought to be a Replacement Scrappy for Ness until Ness was confirmed to return.

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** On a side note, due to a poorly worded entry on the Smash Bros. DOJO website, Lucas was thought to be a Replacement Scrappy for Ness until Ness was confirmed to return.


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* Master Raven from ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}} 7'', although liked by some, is hated by many other fans because she is not the original Raven.
** Christie Monteiro from ''Tekken 4'' was not popular when she was revealed, as she was believed to be a replacement for the iconic Eddy Gordo. Fortunately, Eddy was brought back as a bonus costume for her, before slowly being fully reinstated into the franchise for ''5''.
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12th Apr '17 3:40:54 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Shuichi Saihara already had crooked looks due to him being a LegacyCharacter for the beloved Kyouko, but when [[spoiler:the fan favorite Kaede dies and he becomes the real protagonist for the rest of the game, some fans came to loathe him, accusing him of being a way too bland protagonist that is in no way different than the two previous ones, while Kaede was an IdealHero and a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter and she became a ToughActToFollow]].

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** Shuichi Saihara already had crooked looks due to him being a LegacyCharacter for the beloved Kyouko, but when [[spoiler:the fan favorite Kaede dies and [[AndNowForSomeoneCompletelyDifferent he becomes the real protagonist player character for the rest of the game, game]], some fans came to loathe him, accusing him of being [[VanillaProtagonist a way too bland protagonist that protagonist]] who is in no way different than effectively a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for the two previous ones, games' player characters, while Kaede was an IdealHero and a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter and she became a ToughActToFollow]].
11th Feb '17 8:50:04 PM 313Bluestreak
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** Some fans complained about how Shadow replaced Knuckles' role as Sonic's [[TheRival rival]].

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** Some Since Shadow's introduction in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'', some fans complained about how Shadow feel that he replaced Knuckles' role as Sonic's [[TheRival rival]].main rival]] and view him as the reason for Knuckles becoming less prominent after ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure''.
19th Jan '17 3:29:01 PM Arcana4th
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* ''VideoGame/NewDanganRonpaV3'' has some, due to FranchiseOriginalSin kicking in brutally.
** The Monokuma Cubs are hated by the fans(save [[EnsembleDarkhorse Monodam]]) for being an annoying Monokuma aide substitution for Monomi of the previous game.
** Shuichi Saihara already had crooked looks due to him being a LegacyCharacter for the beloved Kyouko, but when [[spoiler:the fan favorite Kaede dies and he becomes the real protagonist for the rest of the game, some fans came to loathe him, accusing him of being a way too bland protagonist that is in no way different than the two previous ones, while Kaede was an IdealHero and a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter and she became a ToughActToFollow]].
** The new mastermind got this treatment, being accused of being a watered down, less fun version of the original mastermind.
21st Dec '16 9:15:12 AM Morgenthaler
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** Averted in ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' with Noble Six, who was basically as {{Badass}} as Master Chief and enjoyed customizable armor. His only flaw? He was unlucky. Part of this stems from the fact that Noble Six is YOU.

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** Averted in ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' with Noble Six, who was basically as {{Badass}} badass as Master Chief and enjoyed customizable armor. His only flaw? He was unlucky. Part of this stems from the fact that Noble Six is YOU.



** Applies to some of the Pokémon themselves, albeit mostly in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' due to its reboot-ish nature. Examples include the hideous Timburr/Conkeldurr line for the Machop/Machamp line, and the fairly weak Pidove/Unfezant line for the much more versatile Starly/Staraptor line. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in many cases, however; many fans were happy to see the [[GoddamnBats Zubat and Geodude lines]] replaced with the Woobat and Roggenrola lines, respectively (with the latter also getting an unusually {{Badass}}-looking final evolution, Gigalith).

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** Applies to some of the Pokémon themselves, albeit mostly in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' due to its reboot-ish nature. Examples include the hideous Timburr/Conkeldurr line for the Machop/Machamp line, and the fairly weak Pidove/Unfezant line for the much more versatile Starly/Staraptor line. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in many cases, however; many fans were happy to see the [[GoddamnBats Zubat and Geodude lines]] replaced with the Woobat and Roggenrola lines, respectively (with the latter also getting an unusually {{Badass}}-looking badass-looking final evolution, Gigalith).
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