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History Recap / TheWestWingS01E03AProportionalResponse

25th Nov '15 6:08:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes the decision to attack Libya, President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response." There's also an element of IronicEcho, in that President Shepherd, though he recognized the necessity of the attack, didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).

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* SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', ''Film/TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes the decision to attack Libya, President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response." There's also an element of IronicEcho, in that President Shepherd, though he recognized the necessity of the attack, didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).
19th Nov '15 9:25:33 PM DoctorNemesis
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* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: This was Charlie's first appearance in the series.

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* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: This was Charlie's first appearance in the series.series.
* ThreatBackfire: Bertram Coles's posturing statement about the President "not getting out of here alive" if he visits a military base potentially threatened by military cuts not only leads to Toby Ziegler insinuating that the Secret Service is investigating him for threatening the life of the President, when Bartlet hears it he bursts out laughing.
19th Nov '15 7:51:55 AM lipranzer
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Back in the Roosevelt Room, Josh is asking Charlie what he assures him are routine questions ("Have you ever tried to overthrow the government?"), and points out to a still-nervous Charlie that the job of personal aide is a much better job than the bike messenger job. Sam comes in, and Josh introduces the two of them. Sam gets upset on Charlie's behalf when [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Josh starts to asks Charlie about his personal life]], and he becomes disruptive enough that Josh asks Sam to step outside the room with him. Once outside, Josh points out Sam knew when he took the job he was going to be held to a higher standard, but Sam says he's just sticking to his principles. Toby interrupts them, saying the retaliatory strike has occurred, and they need to go to Leo's office.

[[DescriptionCut In Leo's office]], he tells the staff about Pericles One and the targets (two munitions dumps, a bridge and Syrian intelligence headquarters). He tells Toby and Sam to finish their speech, and tells C.J. to sit in on a briefing and repeats his order not to tell the press anything until they're ready. C.J. wants to speak to the President alone, and Leo assures her everything will be fine. Everyone leaves except Josh, who starts to bring up the President snapping at the First Lady until Leo tells him it's the wrong time. Josh then brings up Charlie, and mentions how much he likes him and how qualified he is for the job, but Josh is worried about the image of a black man waiting on the President and holding the door open for him. Leo points out *he* opens the door for the President, and if Charlie is the right man for the job, they should hire him regardless of the image. Admiral Fitzwallace joins them, and after he and Josh greet each other, Josh leaves. Fitzwallace tells Leo he needs to calm the President down, and tells him the President is really doing fine, he just doesn't know it. Leo thanks him, and brings up Charlie. Fitzwallace tells Leo as long as they pay Charlie a good wage and treat him with respect, it makes no difference what kind of job he has.

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Back in the Roosevelt Room, Josh is asking Charlie what he assures him are routine questions ("Have you ever tried to overthrow the government?"), and points out to a still-nervous Charlie that the job of personal aide is a much better job than the bike messenger job. Sam comes in, and Josh introduces the two of them. Sam gets upset on Charlie's behalf when [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Josh starts to asks Charlie about his personal life]], and he becomes disruptive enough that Josh asks Sam to step outside the room with him. Once outside, Josh points out Sam knew when he took the job he was going to be held to a higher standard, but Sam says he's just sticking to his principles. Toby interrupts them, saying the retaliatory strike has occurred, and they need to go to Leo's office.

[[DescriptionCut In Leo's office]], he
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...where Leo
tells the staff about Pericles One and the targets (two munitions dumps, a bridge and Syrian intelligence headquarters). He tells Toby and Sam to finish their speech, and tells C.J. to sit in on a briefing and repeats his order not to tell the press anything until they're ready. C.J. wants to speak to the President alone, and Leo assures her everything will be fine. Everyone leaves except Josh, who starts to bring up the President snapping at the First Lady until Leo tells him it's the wrong time. Josh then brings up Charlie, and mentions how much he likes him and how qualified he is for the job, but Josh is worried about the image of a black man waiting on the President and holding the door open for him. Leo points out *he* opens the door for the President, and if Charlie is the right man for the job, they should hire him regardless of the image. Admiral Fitzwallace joins them, and after he and Josh greet each other, Josh leaves. Fitzwallace tells Leo he needs to calm the President down, and tells him the President is really doing fine, he just doesn't know it. Leo thanks him, and brings up Charlie. Fitzwallace tells Leo as long as they pay Charlie a good wage and treat him with respect, it makes no difference what kind of job he has.
1st Nov '15 2:44:19 PM beack7
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* HandWave: Josh and Leo worrying about hiring a black man to fill just a servant's role in the White House is basically Aaron Sorkin and NBC doing the same thing in regards to hiring a black actor to just play a servant role.

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* HandWave: Josh and Leo worrying about hiring a black man to fill just a servant's role in the White House is basically Aaron Sorkin and NBC doing the same thing in regards to hiring a black actor to just play a servant role.
17th Mar '15 8:33:18 AM lipranzer
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Before President Bartlet comes into the Situation Room for the first time, Admiral Fitzwallace mentions how the coffee is different from what they usually have.



* SeinfeldianConversation: Before President Bartlet comes into the Situation Room for the first time, Admiral Fitzwallace mentions how the coffee is different from what they usually have.
12th Feb '15 8:15:26 AM lipranzer
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/GoodTimes James Evans]] is now Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.



* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: This was Charlie's first appearance in the series.
* WriteWhatYouKnow: As Josh is sitting around with nothing to do:
-->'''Josh:''' I'm like a writer on a movie set.
-->'''Donna:''' Have you ever been on a movie set?
-->'''Josh:''' No, but I hear stories.

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* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: This was Charlie's first appearance in the series.
* WriteWhatYouKnow: As Josh is sitting around with nothing to do:
-->'''Josh:''' I'm like a writer on a movie set.
-->'''Donna:''' Have you ever been on a movie set?
-->'''Josh:''' No, but I hear stories.
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10th Jul '14 9:42:19 AM DoctorNemesis
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* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: This was Charlie's first appearance in the series.


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* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: This was Charlie's first appearance in the series.
10th Jul '14 9:40:29 AM DoctorNemesis
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* IronicEcho / SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes the decision to attack Libya, President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response." The difference is, in the movie, President Shepherd, though he recognized the necessity of the attack, didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).

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* IronicEcho / SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes IronicEcho: From the decision previous episode. In his private conversation with Dr. Tolliver, Bartlet admitted feeling uncomfortable around the Joint Chiefs because he felt they looked down on him due to attack Libya, his lack of military experience, and in particular the fact that he was uncomfortable with violence. In ''this'' episode, the Joint Chiefs are in fact utterly freaked out by the President's anger and desire to make people and things he doesn't like explode, and corner Leo to ask him to try and get him to cool down a bit.
* ItsPersonal: Although the
President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me denies it when Leo initially confronts him on the virtue subject, it's pretty clear that a lot of a proportional response." The difference is, his anger and aggression is being driven by the death of his personal physician in the movie, President Shepherd, though he recognized attack on the necessity of the attack, didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).American military plane.


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* SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes the decision to attack Libya, President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response." There's also an element of IronicEcho, in that President Shepherd, though he recognized the necessity of the attack, didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).
4th Jul '14 8:51:39 PM lipranzer
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** PlayedForLaughs at the beginning of the episode:
-->'''Donna:''' C.J.'s looking for you.
-->'''Josh:''' (''as he walks towards his office'') Huh?
-->'''Donna:''' C.J.'s looking for you.
-->'''Josh:''' Donna?
-->'''Donna:''' Yes?
-->'''Josh:''' "Good morning, Josh" is a pretty good way to start the day.
-->'''Donna:''' Good morning.
-->'''Josh:''' What's up?
-->'''Donna:''' C.J.'s looking for you.
16th Nov '13 3:29:16 PM lipranzer
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* IronicEcho / SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes the decision to attack Libya, President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response." The difference is, in the movie, President Shepherd, though he recognized the necessity of the attack, President Shepherd didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).

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* IronicEcho / SelfPlagiarism: In ''TheAmericanPresident'', when he makes the decision to attack Libya, President Andrew Shepherd says, "Someday someone's gonna have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response." The difference is, in the movie, President Shepherd, though he recognized the necessity of the attack, President Shepherd didn't like having to do it in the first place, while here, President Bartlet thinks a proportional response is too little (at least until Leo talks him down).
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