History Recap / StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS01E12Vortex

24th Mar '18 11:33:25 AM StarTropes
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* SureWhyNot: Basically Croden's response to Odo's YouTalkTooMuch comment below. It's not because it's a lie, but since he was never actually told ''why'' he had been labeled an enemy of the state, it's as good a reason as any.

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* SureWhyNot: SureLetsGoWithThat: Basically Croden's response to Odo's YouTalkTooMuch comment below. It's not because it's a lie, but since he was never actually told ''why'' he had been labeled an enemy of the state, it's as good a reason as any.
26th Apr '17 4:56:14 PM StarTropes
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* ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder:
--> '''Odo:''' I'm a security chief, not a combat pilot!
26th Apr '17 4:24:50 PM StarTropes
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that [[spoiler:Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
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Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that [[spoiler:Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them.]]
** Also, Quark figures that everyone from Odo's species is as paranoid as he is, and that nobody's ever seen them because they're all hiding. [[spoiler:He's right.
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14th Nov '16 4:38:27 AM Tuomas
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them,

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that Odo's [[spoiler:Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them,them.]]
8th Aug '16 1:42:22 PM SamuraiMarmoset
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* CrapsackWorld: Croden's homeworld, from what we see and hear of it, is an apparently authoritarian nightmare that would make Cardassia blush; Croden's not even sure ''why'' he was declared an enemy of the state, since the security agents who showed up to kill him and his family never bothered to tell him. He suspects it was because he "asked too many questions", though he really doesn't know. The Exarch also informs Sisko that Croden has been tried in absentia and that he is to be returned immediately for execution and gets very angry when Sisko tries to mediate the situation. It's entirely possible (though never confirmed) that this a Dominion world, given its rather draconian policies.

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* AllCrimesAreEqual: As Croden tells Odo, on Rakhar there are no minor crimes.
* CrapsackWorld: Croden's homeworld, homeworld Rakhar, from what we see and hear of it, is an apparently authoritarian nightmare that would make Cardassia blush; Croden's not even sure ''why'' he was declared an enemy of the state, since the security agents who showed up to kill him and his family never bothered to tell him. He suspects it was because says Odo's assumption that he "asked talked too many questions", much is as good a reason as any on his world, though he really doesn't know. The Exarch also informs Sisko that Croden has been tried in absentia and that he is to be returned immediately for execution and gets very angry when Sisko tries to mediate the situation. It's entirely possible (though never confirmed) that this a Dominion world, given its rather draconian policies.


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* SureWhyNot: Basically Croden's response to Odo's YouTalkTooMuch comment below. It's not because it's a lie, but since he was never actually told ''why'' he had been labeled an enemy of the state, it's as good a reason as any.
8th Aug '16 1:35:50 PM SamuraiMarmoset
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The twins are trying to pawn off a valuable egg shaped bauble. Quark questions if it was stolen, but the party is crashed before they can make a deal. The quiet customer, Croden, enters them room with a phaser, demanding to be given the item. A gunfight breaks out, and Ro-Kel is killed in the scuffle. The fight is interrupted by Odo, who was disguised as one of the glasses Rom took into the room.

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The twins are trying to pawn off a valuable egg shaped bauble. Quark questions if it was stolen, but the party is crashed before they can make a deal. The quiet customer, an alien from the Gamma Quadrant named Croden, enters them room with a phaser, demanding to be given the item. A gunfight breaks out, and Ro-Kel is killed in the scuffle. The fight is interrupted by Odo, who was disguised as one of the glasses Rom took into the room.



* Foreshadowing: Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them,

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* Foreshadowing: {{Foreshadowing}}: Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them,
8th Aug '16 1:34:38 PM SamuraiMarmoset
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* CrapsackWorld: Croden's homeworld, from what we see and hear of it, is an apparently authoritarian nightmare that would make Cardassia blush; Croden's not even sure ''why'' he was declared an enemy of the state, since the security agents who showed up to kill him and his family never bothered to tell him. He suspects it was because he "asked too many questions", though he really doesn't know. The Exarch also informs Sisko that Croden has been tried in absentia and that he is to be returned immediately for execution and gets very angry when Sisko tries to mediate the situation. It's entirely possible (though never confirmed) that this a Dominion world, given its rather draconian policies.
* Foreshadowing: Croden tells Odo that the Changelings who used to live on his world left many years ago due to persecution (which is a lie) and when confronted by Odo's unflinching dedication to the law, laments that "the Changelings are harsh in their judgements". Croden's going off of very old legends, but fast forward two seasons and we learn that Odo's people founded the Dominion as a way to escape persecution by solid species by controlling them and are ''very'' harsh in their judgements against people who act against them,


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* ManipulativeBastard: Quark tells the Miradorn he has a buyer lined up for an item they "procured" in a raid, but when Ah-Kel and Ro-Kel show up to make the trade, Quark starts quibbling about the object possibly being stolen and needed authentication. This buys time for Croden, a desperate Gamma Quadrant refugee Quark has entered into a separate arrangement with and given a Ferengi weapon to as part of a plot to secure the artifact without having to pay the Miradorn for it before things go bad and Ro-Kel is killed. Odo's able to figure the attempted double-cross out afterward, but even with Rom almost blabbing it, Quark's kept his hands just clean enough for there not to be enough hard evidence for him to do anything about it.
* SingleMindedTwins: Apparently what all "twinned Miradorn" are. Ah-Kel explicitly says he and Ro-Kel were two halves of a single being and seems to be in actual pain while Odo is interrogating him following Ro-Kel's death, saying he is now "incomplete" and lives only to avenge his brother by killing Croden.
* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Twin]]: Ah-Kel's motivation for pursuing Croden, for the murder of his twin/other half Ro-Kel becomes his only reason for existing.
21st Jun '16 10:43:08 PM katrinahood
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* HarsherInHindsight: Odo's face are called Changlings. They do live in the Gamma Quadrant. Some day, he will know...and be horrified that they are xenophobic conquerors.
21st Jun '16 10:42:29 PM katrinahood
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* ActingForTwo: Ah-Kel and Ro-Kel are both played by Randy Oglesby
5th May '16 9:20:27 AM starwolf99
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* HarsherInHindsight: Odo's face are called Changlings. They do live in the Gamma Quadrant. Some day, he will know...and be horrified that they are xenophobic conquerors.
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