History Recap / DoctorWhoS25E3SilverNemesis

28th Apr '16 1:34:07 PM Temmere
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** The arrow stuck in the TARDIS door comes back into play later.



* NoSwastikas: Averted. Creator/JohnNathanTurner got cold feet about having actual Nazis in ''Doctor Who'' at the last minute and had some of the dialogue toned down to make it less explicit. Unfortunately, the director and set designer didn't get the message so De Flores's introductory sequence begins with a close-up shot of an enormous swastika-decorated ink stand.

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* NoSwastikas: Averted. Creator/JohnNathanTurner got cold feet about having actual Nazis in ''Doctor Who'' at the last minute and had some of the dialogue toned down to make it less explicit. Unfortunately, the director and set designer didn't get the message so De Flores's introductory sequence begins with a close-up shot of an enormous swastika-decorated ink stand.stand and then a portrait of Hitler while Wagner plays in the background.
16th Jun '15 6:16:10 AM JamesAustin
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''Silver Nemesis'' was promoted as the show's 25th anniversary special; the first episode of the serial aired on the anniversary itself.

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''Silver Nemesis'' "Silver Nemesis" was promoted as the show's 25th anniversary special; the first episode of the serial aired on the anniversary itself.



* ContinuityPorn: References to Rassilon and Omega, Earth becoming "New Mondas", and in the deleted scenes the Doctor hypnotises some security guards by wearing spectacles in an overt reference to ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames The War Games]]''.

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* ContinuityPorn: References to Rassilon and Omega, Earth becoming "New Mondas", and in the deleted scenes the Doctor hypnotises some security guards by wearing spectacles in an overt reference to ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames The War Games]]''.Games]]."



* DoingInTheWizard: Taken on its own, this episode appears to claim that Lady Peinforte's powers are literal magic, making it the only Original Series episode to allow such a thing rather than [[MagicByAnyOtherName handwaving it somehow]] (''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]'' doesn't really count, because the Arthurian characters are visitors from another universe with different physical laws). However, a throwaway line in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]'' establishes that, in fact, Lady Peinforte got her powers from Fenric. [[AuthorsSavingThrow So there.]]

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* DoingInTheWizard: Taken on its own, this episode appears to claim that Lady Peinforte's powers are literal magic, making it the only Original Series episode to allow such a thing rather than [[MagicByAnyOtherName handwaving it somehow]] (''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]'' ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]" doesn't really count, because the Arthurian characters are visitors from another universe with different physical laws). However, a throwaway line in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse of Fenric]]'' Fenric]]" establishes that, in fact, Lady Peinforte got her powers from Fenric. [[AuthorsSavingThrow So there.]]



** The deleted scenes seem to imply that the Doctor is playing chess against an unseen opponent each time he returns to Lady Peinforte's house. Later revelations in ''The Curse of Fenric'' would suggest that Fenric is operating behind the scenes in this story, and the chess motif later takes on great significance in that episode.

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** The deleted scenes seem to imply that the Doctor is playing chess against an unseen opponent each time he returns to Lady Peinforte's house. Later revelations in ''The "The Curse of Fenric'' Fenric" would suggest that Fenric is operating behind the scenes in this story, and the chess motif later takes on great significance in that episode.



* LampshadeHanging: Ace points out that the resolution is exactly the same as that from ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks Remembrance of the Daleks]]'', a story only two serials before this one.

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* LampshadeHanging: Ace points out that the resolution is exactly the same as that from ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks Remembrance of the Daleks]]'', Daleks]]," a story only two serials before this one.



* OutOfOrder: Was originally intended to be shown after ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show in the Galaxy]]''. This introduces a minor continuity error: Ace has Flowerchild's earring pinned to her jacket in this serial.

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* OutOfOrder: Was originally intended to be shown after ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show in the Galaxy]]''. Galaxy]]." This introduces a minor continuity error: Ace has Flowerchild's earring pinned to her jacket in this serial.



* ThoseWackyNazis: The only twentieth-century TV ''Doctor Who'' story to feature actual Nazis, as opposed to evil fantasy cultures with a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName suspicious resemblance]].

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* ThoseWackyNazis: The only twentieth-century TV ''Doctor Who'' television story to feature actual Nazis, as opposed to evil fantasy cultures with a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName suspicious resemblance]].



* WeaksauceWeakness: The Cybermen's vulnerability to gold -- originally a difficult-to-exploit weakness where gold dust, if gotten ''into their workings,'' could take them out, and ''not instantly'' -- is taken to utterly absurd levels in this story. While they at least regain the resistance to bullets that they somehow lost in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E1AttackOfTheCybermen Attack of the Cybermen]]'', you can now cause them to instantly die screaming by ''throwing a gold coin at their chest''. Evidently the writer never stopped to think how absurd it was that the Cybermen could withstand high-velocity impacts without any trouble, but be instantly killed by a low-force impact with any gold or gold-plated object. This came about because, at the time, the only knowledge the writers had of this vulnerability was a throwaway remark about gold from Creator/JohnNathanTurner.

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* WeaksauceWeakness: The Cybermen's vulnerability to gold -- originally a difficult-to-exploit weakness where gold dust, if gotten ''into their workings,'' workings'', could take them out, and ''not instantly'' -- is taken to utterly absurd levels in this story. While they at least regain the resistance to bullets that they somehow lost in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E1AttackOfTheCybermen "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E1AttackOfTheCybermen Attack of the Cybermen]]'', Cybermen]]," you can now cause them to instantly die screaming by ''throwing a gold coin at their chest''. Evidently the writer never stopped to think how absurd it was that the Cybermen could withstand high-velocity impacts without any trouble, but be instantly killed by a low-force impact with any gold or gold-plated object. This came about because, at the time, the only knowledge the writers had of this vulnerability was a throwaway remark about gold from Creator/JohnNathanTurner.



* WholePlotReference: Has clear similarities to [[Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung The Ring of the Nibelung]], which is lampshaded by De Flores.

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* WholePlotReference: Has clear similarities to [[Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung ''[[Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung The Ring of the Nibelung]], Nibelung]]'', which is lampshaded by De Flores.
9th Apr '15 8:02:27 AM JamesAustin
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9th Apr '15 8:02:25 AM JamesAustin
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* CelebrityStar: jazz musician Courtney Pine and his band.

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* CelebrityStar: jazz Jazz musician Courtney Pine and his band.



* ContinuityPorn: references to Rassilon and Omega, Earth becoming "New Mondas", and in the deleted scenes the Doctor hypnotises some security guards by wearing spectacles in an overt reference to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames "The War Games"]].
* CreatorCameo: a number of contemporary and past ''Series/DoctorWho'' cast and crew play the tourists at Windsor Castle.

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* ContinuityPorn: references References to Rassilon and Omega, Earth becoming "New Mondas", and in the deleted scenes the Doctor hypnotises some security guards by wearing spectacles in an overt reference to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames "The ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames The War Games"]].
Games]]''.
* CreatorCameo: a A number of contemporary and past ''Series/DoctorWho'' cast and crew play the tourists at Windsor Castle.



* DoingInTheWizard: Taken on its own, this episode appears to claim that Lady Peinforte's powers are literal magic, making it the only Original Series episode to allow such a thing rather than [[MagicByAnyOtherName handwaving it somehow]] ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]" doesn't really count, because the Arthurian characters are visitors from another universe with different physical laws). However, a throwaway line in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse Of Fenric]]" establishes that, in fact, Lady Peinforte got her powers from Fenric. [[AuthorsSavingThrow So there.]]

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* DoingInTheWizard: Taken on its own, this episode appears to claim that Lady Peinforte's powers are literal magic, making it the only Original Series episode to allow such a thing rather than [[MagicByAnyOtherName handwaving it somehow]] ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]" (''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]'' doesn't really count, because the Arthurian characters are visitors from another universe with different physical laws). However, a throwaway line in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric The Curse Of Fenric]]" of Fenric]]'' establishes that, in fact, Lady Peinforte got her powers from Fenric. [[AuthorsSavingThrow So there.]]



* LampshadeHanging: Ace points out that the resolution is exactly the same as that from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks Remembrance of the Daleks]], a story only two serials before this one.

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* LampshadeHanging: Ace points out that the resolution is exactly the same as that from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks Remembrance of the Daleks]], Daleks]]'', a story only two serials before this one.



* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: there are hints, especially on the DVD deleted scenes, that "De Flores" is meant to be a pseudonym for Martin Bormann, the most senior Nazi unaccounted for in 1945 who was widely believed in the 1980s to be still alive and hiding out in South America.

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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: there There are hints, especially on the DVD deleted scenes, that "De Flores" is meant to be a pseudonym for Martin Bormann, the most senior Nazi unaccounted for in 1945 who was widely believed in the 1980s to be still alive and hiding out in South America.



* OutOfOrder: Was originally intended to be shown after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show In The Galaxy]]". This introduces a minor continuity error: Ace has Flowerchild's earring pinned to her jacket in this serial.

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* OutOfOrder: Was originally intended to be shown after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show In The Galaxy]]".in the Galaxy]]''. This introduces a minor continuity error: Ace has Flowerchild's earring pinned to her jacket in this serial.



* ThoseWackyNazis: the only twentieth-century TV ''Doctor Who'' story to feature actual Nazis, as opposed to evil fantasy cultures with a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName suspicious resemblance]].

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* ThoseWackyNazis: the The only twentieth-century TV ''Doctor Who'' story to feature actual Nazis, as opposed to evil fantasy cultures with a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName suspicious resemblance]].



* WeaksauceWeakness: The Cybermen's vulnerability to gold -- originally a difficult-to-exploit weakness where gold dust, if gotten ''into their workings,'' could take them out, and ''not instantly'' -- is taken to utterly absurd levels in this story. While they at least regain the resistance to bullets that they somehow lost in "Attack of the Cybermen," you can now cause them to instantly die screaming by ''throwing a gold coin at their chest''. Evidently the writer never stopped to think how absurd it was that the Cybermen could withstand high-velocity impacts without any trouble, but be instantly killed by a low-force impact with any gold or gold-plated object. This came about because, at the time, the only knowledge the writers had of this vulnerability was a throwaway remark about gold from Creator/JohnNathanTurner.

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* WeaksauceWeakness: The Cybermen's vulnerability to gold -- originally a difficult-to-exploit weakness where gold dust, if gotten ''into their workings,'' could take them out, and ''not instantly'' -- is taken to utterly absurd levels in this story. While they at least regain the resistance to bullets that they somehow lost in "Attack ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E1AttackOfTheCybermen Attack of the Cybermen," Cybermen]]'', you can now cause them to instantly die screaming by ''throwing a gold coin at their chest''. Evidently the writer never stopped to think how absurd it was that the Cybermen could withstand high-velocity impacts without any trouble, but be instantly killed by a low-force impact with any gold or gold-plated object. This came about because, at the time, the only knowledge the writers had of this vulnerability was a throwaway remark about gold from Creator/JohnNathanTurner.
28th Mar '15 7:15:14 PM carlhummus
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** Well, these Cybermen ''were'' plated in chrome silver. It's possible this attempt to upgrade their casings made them even more vulnerable to gold. Somehow...

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** Well, these Cybermen ''were'' plated in [[BlingOfWar chrome silver. silver]] this time around. It's possible this attempt something their attempts to upgrade their casings made them even more vulnerable to gold. Somehow...
28th Mar '15 7:13:47 PM carlhummus
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** Well, these Cybermen ''were'' plated in chrome silver. It's possible this attempt to upgrade their casings made them even more vulnerable to gold. Somehow...
16th Mar '15 4:43:27 PM Elusivehawk
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''Silver Nemesis'' was promoted as the show's 25th anniversary special; the first episode of the serial aired on the anniversary itself.




''Silver Nemesis'' was promoted as the show's 25th anniversary special; the first episode of the serial aired on the anniversary itself.
27th Jan '15 6:22:40 AM JamesAustin
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The Doctor and Ace, a crazy noblewoman and her sidekick from the 17th century, a bunch of Nazis, and Cybermen (making their last appearance on the original series) fight for control of a statue made out of living metal capable of mass destruction. Dark secrets of the Doctor's past are revealed... almost.

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The Doctor and Ace, Ace visit England in 1988, where three rival factions the Cybermen, a crazy noblewoman group of Neo-Nazis and her sidekick from the 17th century, a bunch of Nazis, and Cybermen (making their last appearance on the original series) fight for 17th-century sorceress named Lady Peinforte are attempting to gain control of a statue made out of a living metal capable of mass destruction. Dark secrets of metal, validium, that was created by [[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors Rassilon]] as the Doctor's past are revealed... almost.
ultimate defence for Gallifrey.

The statue has three components - a bow, an arrow and the figure itself - that must be brought together in order for it to be activated. They have been separated since 1638 when, in order to foil the first attempt by Peinforte to seize it, the Doctor launched the figure into orbit in a powered asteroid.

This asteroid has been approaching the Earth at twenty-five yearly intervals ever since, leaving a succession of disasters in its wake, and has now crash-landed near Windsor Castle.

The Doctor plays the three factions off against one other and eventually appears to concede defeat to the Cyber Leader. However, this is just part of a carefully laid trap, and the Cybermen's fleet is totally wiped out by the statue.



* DeletedScene: A special-edition [=VHS=] release and the DVD provided deleted scenes which helped make a bit more sense out of things.



* StuntCasting: 1950s-1960s Broadway star Dolores Grey shows up for... absolutely no reason whatsoever.



* TroubledProduction: As a knock-on from the even more troubled "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show In The Galaxy]]". The problems on [=TGSitG=] caused its production to overrun, leading to a lack of rehearsal time for this serial.



* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: According to Kevin Clarke, he had no idea what story he was going to pitch to Creator/JohnNathanTurner until he actually started pitching it.
16th Dec '14 3:50:29 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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'''Ace:''' [[BlatantLies Of course not. I'm a good girl, I do what I'm told.]]\\

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'''Ace:''' [[BlatantLies Of course not. I'm a good girl, I do what I'm told.]]\\\\
29th Jul '14 11:24:17 PM Tero
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[[caption-width-right:350: It's ''Doctor Who's'' silver (25th) anniversary special... Plumb obvious thanks to the absurd number of silver and chrome coated scoundrels in this story.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350: It's ''Doctor Who's'' [[MilestoneCelebration silver (25th) anniversary special... special...]] Plumb obvious thanks to [[VisualPun the absurd number of silver and chrome coated scoundrels in this story.story]].]]
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