History Recap / BigFinishDoctorWho025Colditz

9th Jan '15 6:27:22 PM bwburke94
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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [Klein, inadvertently.

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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [Klein, SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: Klein, inadvertently.



* TimeTravelTenseTrouble This story allows World War II to take it's course as we know it.
* UnwittingPawn: Klein for the ''Doctor''.

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* TimeTravelTenseTrouble TimeTravelTenseTrouble: This story allows World War II to take it's its course as we know it.
* UnwittingPawn: Klein for the ''Doctor''.Doctor.
14th Nov '14 2:27:48 PM moloch
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14th Nov '14 2:26:53 PM moloch
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* TheAtoner: The alternate Eighth Doctor spends pretty much his entire life trying to correct time to its proper course. It's up to interpretation if he's trying to attone for the corruption of the timeline, or if he's trying to prevent Ace's untimely deat] by meddling. Probably both.

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* TheAtoner: The alternate Eighth Doctor spends pretty much his entire life trying to correct time to its proper course. It's up to interpretation if he's trying to attone for the corruption of the timeline, or if he's trying to prevent Ace's untimely deat] death by meddling. Probably both.
17th Oct '14 8:35:02 AM bwburke94
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The TARDIS parks Ace and the Seventh Doctor somewhere ''[[SarcasmMode really]]'' cheerful: a POW camp in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Germany. Ace is understandably pissed off when they enter what looks like a giant classic mansion, since that's [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E2GhostLight usually]] a sign of the Doctor wanting to manipulate her with some kind of masterplan. Fortunately, the Doctor has no idea where they are. Unfortunately, they immediately get themselves captured by Nazis, separated, and imprisoned as Prominente: ally spies.

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The TARDIS parks Ace and the Seventh Doctor somewhere ''[[SarcasmMode really]]'' cheerful: in a POW camp in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Germany. Ace is understandably pissed off when they enter what looks like a giant classic mansion, since that's [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E2GhostLight usually]] a sign of the Doctor wanting to manipulate her with some kind of masterplan. Fortunately, the Doctor has no idea where they are. Unfortunately, they immediately get themselves captured by Nazis, separated, and imprisoned as Prominente: ally spies.
6th Oct '14 9:34:07 AM moloch
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* ThatManIsDead: This episode causes Ace to drop "Ace" and go back to Dorothy [=McShane=].]] For a while.

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* ThatManIsDead: This episode causes Ace to drop "Ace" and go back to Dorothy [=McShane=].]] For a while.
23rd Jun '14 12:22:46 PM Dutchtica
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Meanwhile, Ace doesn't actually die in her escape attempt, because Kurtz wants to suck up to Klein and decides to let Ace live for that reason. This means that Klein's time travel is already starting to unravel the Web of Time. When Klein reveals that she was only able to pilot the TARDIS with the help of her friend Johann Schmidt, the Doctor finally realises what happened: after being shot and killed by the Nazis in the future, he would have regenerated into the Eighth Doctor, befriended Klein for years, and eventually convinced her to steal the TARDIS from Nazi headquarters and travel back in time. [[spoiler: Eight also programmed the TARDIS to vworp off as soon as Klein landed, leaving her stuck. All along, Klein was an unwitting pawn, whose only purpose was to loop back in on her own paradox (which Eight couldn't have done without very seriously upsetting time itself) and undo everything that happened, including the Doctor's own regeneration.]]

[[spoiler: And if the Nazis were never able to control the TARDIS without Eight's help, something else must have led them to win the war...]] [[GivingRadioToTheRomans Ace's CD player. Its technology gave the Nazis ''lasers']]', which naturally led to the discovery of nuclear power well before its time. Ace is ''not'' happy with the realisation that her carelessness enabled a global holocaust.

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Meanwhile, Ace doesn't actually die in her escape attempt, because Kurtz wants to suck up to Klein and decides to let Ace live for that reason. This means that Klein's time travel is already starting to unravel the Web of Time. When Klein reveals that she was only able to pilot the TARDIS with the help of her friend Johann Schmidt, the Doctor finally realises what happened: after being shot and killed by the Nazis in the future, he would have regenerated into the Eighth Doctor, befriended Klein for years, and eventually convinced her to steal the TARDIS from Nazi headquarters and travel back in time. [[spoiler: Eight also programmed the TARDIS to vworp off as soon as Klein landed, leaving her stuck. All along, Klein was an unwitting pawn, whose only purpose was to loop back in on her own paradox (which Eight couldn't have done without very seriously upsetting time itself) and undo everything that happened, including the Doctor's own regeneration.]]

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And if the Nazis were never able to control the TARDIS without Eight's help, something else must have led them to win the war...]] [[GivingRadioToTheRomans war... [[TimelineAlteringMacGuffin Ace's CD player. Its technology gave the Nazis ''lasers']]', which naturally led to the discovery of nuclear power well before its time. Ace is ''not'' happy with the realisation that her carelessness enabled a global holocaust.



* TheAtoner: [[spoiler: The alternate Eighth Doctor]] spends pretty much his entire life trying to correct time to its proper course. It's up to interpretation if he's trying to attone for the corruption of the timeline, or if he's trying to prevent [[spoiler: Ace's untimely death]] by meddling. Probably both.

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* TheAtoner: [[spoiler: The alternate Eighth Doctor]] Doctor spends pretty much his entire life trying to correct time to its proper course. It's up to interpretation if he's trying to attone for the corruption of the timeline, or if he's trying to prevent [[spoiler: Ace's untimely death]] deat] by meddling. Probably both.



* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Eight]]
* BavarianFireDrill: [[spoiler: E. Klein]] pulls this, [[spoiler: not being of this time]].

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* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Eight]]
By the Eighth Doctor.
* BavarianFireDrill: [[spoiler: E. Klein]] pulls this, [[spoiler: not being of this time]].this.



* BritishAccents: A plot point [[spoiler: about Klein's]]

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* BritishAccents: A plot point [[spoiler: about Klein's]]Klein's.



* TheChessmaster: For a change, ''not'' the Seventh Doctor. [[spoiler: The Eighth Doctor, "Johann", spends over 10 years just trying to find a person whom he can potentially convince to step back in time and correct things. He then spends the next several months slowly convincing her to go back in time to "save" the Doctor from the original timeline on the pretense of using him to explain how the TARDIS works.]] He's good.

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* TheChessmaster: For a change, ''not'' the Seventh Doctor. [[spoiler: The Eighth Doctor, "Johann", spends over 10 years just trying to find a person whom he can potentially convince to step back in time and correct things. He then spends the next several months slowly convincing her to go back in time to "save" the Doctor from the original timeline on the pretense pretence of using him to explain how the TARDIS works.]] works. He's good.



* DirtyCoward: [[spoiler: Tim betrays Ace]]

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* DirtyCoward: [[spoiler: Tim betrays Ace]]Ace.



* FakingTheDead: The Doctor. Done quite easily, considering he [[spoiler: regenerated into another body]].
* [[spoiler: FishOutOfTemporalWater]] Klein.
* [[spoiler: GivingRadioToTheRomans]]

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* FakingTheDead: The Doctor. Done quite easily, considering he [[spoiler: regenerated into another body]].
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* [[spoiler: FishOutOfTemporalWater]] Klein.
* [[spoiler: GivingRadioToTheRomans]]
FishOutOfTemporalWater: Dr. Klein.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: The Eighth Doctor gets at least shot trying to get Klein into the TARDIS, not to mention essentially erased from history once his plan works.]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: The Eighth Doctor gets at least shot trying to get Klein into the TARDIS, not to mention essentially erased from history once his plan works.]]



* ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy [[spoiler: Elizabeth]]

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* ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy [[spoiler: Elizabeth]]ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy: Elizabeth.



* MasterRace: Klein has blue eyes and blonde hair, and has German parents [[spoiler: which was convenient for her when Germany took over the UK.]]

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* MasterRace: Klein has blue eyes and blonde hair, and has German parents [[spoiler: which was convenient for her when Germany took over the UK.]]parents.



* NotSoDifferent: Klein [[spoiler: thinks that the Doctor restoring the timeline is just as bad as what she's doing]].

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* NotSoDifferent: Klein [[spoiler: thinks that the Doctor restoring the timeline is just as bad as what she's doing]].doing.



* PortalCut: [[spoiler: Kurtz attempts to shoot at the Doctor and Ace while half-in/half-out of the TARDIS. His gunfire causes an emergency dematerialisation. The results are... unpleasant.]]

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* PortalCut: [[spoiler: Kurtz attempts to shoot at the Doctor and Ace while half-in/half-out of the TARDIS. His gunfire causes an emergency dematerialisation. The results are... unpleasant.]]



* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [[spoiler: Klein, inadvertedly]]

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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [[spoiler: Klein, inadvertedly]][Klein, inadvertently.



* StupidJetpackHitler: Klein's world springs from the successful Nazi reverse-engineering of [[spoiler: Ace's CD Walkman]] and the capture of the TARDIS.

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* StupidJetpackHitler: Klein's world springs from the successful Nazi reverse-engineering of [[spoiler: Ace's CD Walkman]] Walkman and the capture of the TARDIS.



* ThatManIsDead: [[spoiler: this episode causes Ace to drop "Ace" and go back to Dorothy [=McShane=].]] For a while.

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* ThatManIsDead: [[spoiler: this This episode causes Ace to drop "Ace" and go back to Dorothy [=McShane=].]] For a while.



* TimeTravelTenseTrouble [[spoiler: This story allows World War II to take it's course as we know it]].
* UnwittingPawn: [[spoiler: Klein]] for the ''Doctor''.

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* TimelineAlteringMacGuffin: Ace's CD player gives the Nazis laser technology.
* TimeTravelTenseTrouble [[spoiler: This story allows World War II to take it's course as we know it]].
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* UnwittingPawn: [[spoiler: Klein]] Klein for the ''Doctor''.
8th May '14 7:13:50 AM CrankyStorming
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* GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel: Klein comes from an alternate future where the Nazis win World War II.
24th Apr '14 1:56:09 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarII

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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarIIUsefulNotes/WorldWarII
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12th Apr '14 6:16:35 PM bwburke94
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* OohMeAccentsSlipping: David Tennant is mostly flawless with his German accent, but slips into Scottish for a brief moment.
12th Apr '14 6:13:34 PM bwburke94
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The Doctor baffles everyone with his two hearts, and plays some spoons on the Nazis. Ace, meanwhile, attracts a very nasty character named Feldwebel Kurtz (first AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho role for [[Creator/DavidTennant some guy who would later have a bit part in the revived series]]), who tries to get her naked and at his mercy as quickly as possible. He's also very confused by her portable CD player. Luckily for Ace, these are the kind of realistic Nazis who adhere to the Geneva Conventions and don't particularly care for Hitler's master race theory, so she's treated like an actual human being and Kurtz is reprimanded for perving on her.

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The Doctor baffles everyone with his two hearts, and plays some spoons on the Nazis. Ace, meanwhile, attracts a very nasty character named Feldwebel Kurtz (first AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho role for [[Creator/DavidTennant some guy who would later have a bit part in the revived series]]), (played by Creator/DavidTennant!), who tries to get her naked and at his mercy as quickly as possible. He's also very confused by her portable CD player. Luckily for Ace, these are the kind of realistic Nazis who adhere to the Geneva Conventions and don't particularly care for Hitler's master race theory, so she's treated like an actual human being and Kurtz is reprimanded for perving on her.



* HeyItsThatVoice: It's the ... [[Creator/DavidTennant Doctor?]] and he's a Nazi!! Wait.
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