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23rd Feb '17 7:12:49 PM Jhonny
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* The United States is by no means the only country to have a large immigrant population, yet many people will assume that writers [[CreatorsApathy just didn't care]] and made an error whenever [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign a character's last name is from a language not spoken in their country]]. In reality, people move around ''a lot'' in today's world, and so, a Frenchman having a German last name, or a Malaysian having a Chinese name, or many other such permutations, would not only be normal, but would pass totally without comment in such countries!

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* The United States is by no means the only country to have a large immigrant population, yet many people will assume that writers [[CreatorsApathy just didn't care]] and made an error whenever [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign a character's last name is from a language not spoken in their country]]. In reality, people move around ''a lot'' in today's world, and so, a Frenchman having a German last name, or a Malaysian having a Chinese name, or many other such permutations, would not only be normal, but would pass totally without comment in such countries!countries! And [[BlackVikings this didn't just start yesterday]]. One of the "founding fathers" of the European Union was a Frenchman by the name of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Schuman Robert Schuman]] - a name that couldn't be more German if you tried. The Alsace/Lorraine region where Schuman's father (and last name) originated has been German, then French then German and now French again throughout its history and thus names that sound of the respectively other country are nothing out of the ordinary. Similarly, ethnic Chinese have formed minorities throughout Southeast Asia for centuries and you will find (the descendants of) Indian or Chinese contract laborers throughout much of the Americas and Africa dating back to the mid to late 19th century.
23rd Feb '17 4:38:09 PM BrendanRizzo
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* The United States is by no means the only country to have a large immigrant population, yet many people will assume that writers [[CreatorsApathy just didn't care]] and made an error whenever [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign a character's last name is from a language not spoken in their country]]. In reality, people move around ''a lot'' in today's world, and so, a Frenchman having a German last name, or a Malaysian having a Chinese name, or many other such permutations, would not only be normal, but would pass totally without comment in such countries!
20th Feb '17 6:11:27 PM nombretomado
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** ''[[SuperMarioBros Super Mario Sunshine]]'' has coconuts that look more realistic than most other coconuts; this led to some people believing them to be fake. The same is true of the ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' games and the film ''CastAway''.

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** ''[[SuperMarioBros Super Mario Sunshine]]'' has coconuts that look more realistic than most other coconuts; this led to some people believing them to be fake. The same is true of the ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' games and the film ''CastAway''.''Film/CastAway''.
17th Feb '17 9:28:21 PM schoi30
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* Coconuts in fiction are depicted as fuzzy brown things hanging from trees, sometimes with apertures in the surface. Coconuts are actually green or yellow or orange with smooth skin until one cuts them out of the pod, then dries the second layer, which then turns brown and fuzzy. That gives extra dimension to the trope name TheCoconutEffect!

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* Coconuts in fiction are depicted as fuzzy brown things hanging from trees, sometimes with apertures in the surface. Coconuts are actually green or yellow or orange with smooth skin until one cuts them out of the pod, then dries the second layer, which then turns brown and fuzzy. That gives extra dimension to the trope name TheCoconutEffect!
17th Feb '17 9:26:59 PM schoi30
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* Coconuts in fiction are depicted as fuzzy brown things hanging from trees, sometimes with apertures in the surface. Coconuts are actually green with smooth skin until one cuts them out of the pod, then dries the second layer, which then turns brown and fuzzy. That gives extra dimension to the trope name TheCoconutEffect!

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* Coconuts in fiction are depicted as fuzzy brown things hanging from trees, sometimes with apertures in the surface. Coconuts are actually green or yellow or orange with smooth skin until one cuts them out of the pod, then dries the second layer, which then turns brown and fuzzy. That gives extra dimension to the trope name TheCoconutEffect!
3rd Feb '17 4:20:21 PM jabberwocky1996
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** Creator/AlexisBledel of ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' fame is actually latina and comes from a Chilean/Mexican family and English isn't even her first language. [[http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/100222-Alexis-Bledel.jpg You'd never know that]] [[http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2010/03/04/1267729739_9007/539w.jpg looking at her]].
16th Jan '17 4:43:09 PM Nicoaln
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** Similarly, ice-covered mountains in the midst of the pacific ocean. Unbelievable? Not quite - [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauna_Kea Mauna Kea]] Hawai'i experiences regular glaciation.
* Related to the above, if you asked someone what the tallest mountain in the world is, and you said "Mauna Kea", you would technically be correct as much of it is underwater. Mountains ''and'' volcanoes do form under the ocean. (This was actually pointed out by Carlos in a ''Series/TheMagicSchoolBus'' game wherein the class finds an underwater volcano)
25th Dec '16 11:07:56 PM ElectroKraken
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* As Thomas Frank pointed out in his 2004 book ''What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'', conservatism has done such an excellent job of [[WrittenByTheWinners rewriting American history]] that if you sincerely told younger people that there was a time (about 1890 to 1920, specifically) when hundreds of thousands of working-class Americans viewed not only liberalism but socialism and [[ChummyCommies communism]] as worthwhile political doctrines, they'd dismiss this fact as a fairy tale. In the 1912 election there was a "Progressive" Candidate (UsefulNotes/TeddyRoosevelt), a Democrat, a Republican and an open socialist. And the Republican came in third. Occasionally Hollywood tries to correct this oversight with its "political" films, but even there leftists are [[CondescendingCompassion portrayed as a persecuted minority]], when in fact for a while in [[AmericanPoliticalSystem American political culture]] their ideas were almost - or practically - mainstream. Consider that left-wing authors like Upton Sinclair and John Steinbeck and politicians like Huey P. Long openly espoused Socialist beliefs and were quite respected in their heyday. It was only after the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and the the rise of the Soviet Union that Communism and Socialism became anathema in mainstream American politics.

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* As Thomas Frank pointed out in his 2004 book ''What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'', conservatism has done such an excellent job of [[WrittenByTheWinners rewriting American history]] that if you sincerely told younger people that there was a time (about 1890 to 1920, specifically) when hundreds of thousands of working-class Americans viewed not only liberalism but socialism and [[ChummyCommies communism]] as worthwhile political doctrines, they'd dismiss this fact as a fairy tale. In the 1912 election there was a "Progressive" Candidate (UsefulNotes/TeddyRoosevelt), ([[UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt Teddy Roosevelt]]), a Democrat, a Republican and an open socialist. And the Republican came in third. Occasionally Hollywood tries to correct this oversight with its "political" films, but even there leftists are [[CondescendingCompassion portrayed as a persecuted minority]], when in fact for a while in [[AmericanPoliticalSystem American political culture]] their ideas were almost - or practically - mainstream. Consider that left-wing authors like Upton Sinclair and John Steinbeck and politicians like Huey P. Long openly espoused Socialist beliefs and were quite respected in their heyday. It was only after the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and the the rise of the Soviet Union that Communism and Socialism became anathema in mainstream American politics.
23rd Dec '16 5:35:41 PM ElectroKraken
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*** Seeing how ''pogroms'' were already a thing, this doubles up as a very real life example of what could be found a very cartoonish case of Even Evil Has Standarts: people were not averse to the idea of violent anti-Semitism. It's just the whole institutionalized "final solution" business didn't strike them as a logical next step...

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*** Seeing how ''pogroms'' were already a thing, this doubles up as a very real life example of what could be found a very cartoonish case of Even Evil Has Standarts: EvenEvilHasStandards: people were not averse to the idea of violent anti-Semitism. It's just the whole institutionalized "final solution" business didn't strike them as a logical next step...
12th Dec '16 11:18:10 PM Nicoaln
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** While the subject is [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment extremely passionate]], some people have been surprised to find out that some Egyptian people are in fact Egyptian. ''Film/NightOfTheMuseum'' had some people say that it was {{Whitewashing}}... despite that Ahkmenrah's actor, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rami_Malek Rami Malek]], is in fact Egyptian. The occasional white person in Egypt (Especially the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_Kingdom Ptolemaic Kingdom]]) wouldn't be ''too'' out of place, and neither would a darker skinned person, since its neighbour [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia Nubia]] had a significant presence in the region.

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** While the subject is [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment extremely passionate]], some people have been surprised to find out that some Egyptian people are in fact Egyptian. ''Film/NightOfTheMuseum'' ''Film/NightAtTheMuseum'' had some people say that it was {{Whitewashing}}...whitewashing... despite that Ahkmenrah's actor, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rami_Malek Rami Malek]], is in fact Egyptian. The occasional white person in Egypt (Especially the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_Kingdom Ptolemaic Kingdom]]) wouldn't be ''too'' out of place, and neither would a darker skinned person, since its neighbour [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia Nubia]] had a significant presence in the region. (Nubia in fact conquered it a couple times for good measure - and there are indeed Nubian mummies.)
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