History Quotes / UncannyValley

5th Nov '17 12:58:41 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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->This is terrifying. This isn't Snow White. This is more like evil porcelain dolls come to life!
-->--'''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd''' on the ''Snow White and the Seven Clever Boys'' cover art.
10th Oct '17 3:00:13 AM valar55
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->My misfortune is that I resemble a man too much. I should like to be wholly a beast like that goat

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->My misfortune is that I resemble a man too much. I should like to be wholly a beast like that goatgoat.
7th Oct '17 8:28:24 AM AnotherEpicFail
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->Seriously, does he have a disease or something that makes him look like some kind of Creator/NeilGaiman creature made manifest? Just looking at him makes me want to rub my eyes and then wash my hands with harsh soap until my skin turns pink.
-->--''Website/SFDebris'' on Creator/BradDourif in "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS2E16Meld Meld]]"
24th Aug '17 8:35:02 AM CerotechOmega
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->''[[Franchise/StreetFighter Chun]], what the fuck did they do to you?!''
-->--'''WebVideo/GameCareNetwork''', ''Everything Wrong With E3 2017'', VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite segment
13th May '17 5:35:48 AM AnotherEpicFail
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->Theresa named her new "child" [[CreepyDoll Doll]] [[MeaningfulName with good reason]]. The imbued's features, [[FleshGolem made from the preserved skin of dead children]], have a fixed and doll-like quality to them. Her mouth moves too slowly into a smile or frown to look natural, and the baby roundness of her cheeks is too perfect, enhancing Doll's appearance of artifice. In repose, her face becomes completely blank and expressionless, and her body unnaturally still. Theresa's handiwork as a seamstress shines in her creation, the [[ScaryStitches tiny stitches]] barely visible at the edge of Doll's hairline, on her arms, and in any other location where her "mother" had to close the skin. Though a startling facsimile of life, certain key features, such as her often vacant expression and her [[MarionetteMotion slightly disjointed way of movement]], betray Doll as little more than a flesh Pinocchio who could not quite fulfill her creator's dreams of crafting a real child.
-->--''[[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness Antagonists]]''
3rd Apr '17 3:01:40 PM Archimedes
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->The big problem that one has to face is the fact that [[UncannyValley everybody in the audience is going to be an expert on how humans move.]] This makes it pointless to attempt to use rotoscope or any other device to imitate human action. I believe the answer lies somewhere in working out a mode of movement that is [[LawOfConservationOfDetail edited action]], just the way that the animals in Disney/{{Bambi}} and the dwarfs in [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] were. An audience will accept any convention, any point of view, as long as it is carried out consistently. I think there is less chance of rejection by this approach than by that of stupidly trying to draw animation with all the complexity of live action. In the first place, [[ForegoneConclusion it can't be done]], and in the first place, why try to recreate the approach of the Hudson River School of painting? It fizzled out like a soggy firecracker. After the viewers marveled at a match head that looked as if it could be picked off the canvas or a torn envelope that uncannily simulated real life, [[AwesomeButImpractical they got bored with it.]]\\\

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->The big problem that one has to face is the fact that [[UncannyValley everybody in the audience is going to be an expert on how humans move.]] move. This makes it pointless to attempt to use rotoscope or any other device to imitate human action. I believe the answer lies somewhere in working out a mode of movement that is [[LawOfConservationOfDetail edited action]], just the way that the animals in Disney/{{Bambi}} and the dwarfs in [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] were. An audience will accept any convention, any point of view, as long as it is carried out consistently. I think there is less chance of rejection by this approach than by that of stupidly trying to draw animation with all the complexity of live action. In the first place, [[ForegoneConclusion it can't be done]], and in the first place, why try to recreate the approach of the Hudson River School of painting? It fizzled out like a soggy firecracker. After the viewers marveled at a match head that looked as if it could be picked off the canvas or a torn envelope that uncannily simulated real life, [[AwesomeButImpractical they got bored with it.]]\\\
20th Jan '17 7:02:26 PM Tacitus
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->''"The big problem that one has to face is the fact that [[UncannyValley everybody in the audience is going to be an expert on how humans move.]] This makes it pointless to attempt to use rotoscope or any other device to imitate human action. I believe the answer lies somewhere in working out a mode of movement that is [[LawOfConservationOfDetail edited action]], just the way that the animals in Disney/{{Bambi}} and the dwarfs in [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] were. An audience will accept any convention, any point of view, as long as it is carried out consistently. I think there is less chance of rejection by this approach than by that of stupidly trying to draw animation with all the complexity of live action. In the first place, [[ForegoneConclusion it can't be done]], and in the first place, why try to recreate the approach of the Hudson River School of painting? It fizzled out like a soggy firecracker. After the viewers marveled at a match head that looked as if it could be picked off the canvas or a torn envelope that uncannily simulated real life, [[AwesomeButImpractical they got bored with it.]]"''

->''Imitation of real life is not art, and art is what we are involved with, despite mutters to the contrary from Madison Avenue and the networks."''
-->-- Animator ShamusCulhane discouraging the use of the {{Rotoscoping}} process, quoted from his book ''Animation: From Script to Screen''.

->''I think that the closer animation gets to superficial "realism" the faker it looks. Do these look remotely "believable"? Not as believable as if they just shot the actual actors. This has been demonstrated over and over again in our history - going back to Snow White. Everybody (even then) loved the cartoony Dwarfs and noted the complete incongruity and stiffness of Snow White and the Prince. Well animated cartoon characters are far more "believable" than "realistic" mannequins.''
-->-- Creator/JohnKricfalusi [[Blog/JohnKStuff blog post]] on ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf 2007}}'', in [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/04/daffy-in-book-revue-cartoony-believable.html "Daffy In Book Revue-Cartoony Believable Action"]]

->''This new one's kinda creepy\\
Makes me shudder inside\\
With his idiot grin.\\
He's head-to-toe with muscles and they ripple and slide\\
Under translucent skin.''
-->-- '''Music/JonathanCoulton''', "Todd the T-1000"

->''Oh my god... OH MY GOD, it's the invasion of the army of '''PLASTIC WHORES!'''''
-->-- '''Ebeeto, in his [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angry Video Game Fag persona]]''', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxysFE2_kDs on the]] ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'' [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames video game]]

->''"An [[SpaceElves Eldar]] looked [[HumanoidAliens almost human]] from a distance: two arms, two legs, two eyes, a nose, but everything else was different. An Eldar radiated wrongness, from its huge, liquid eyes to the many jointed, worm-like waving of its fingers. They were disgusting and unnerving, and Alaric hated them."''

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->''"The big problem
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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]

->Get a hold of yourself. That wasn't a body, nor was it a mind or anything. It was just energy. I know that. But this sinking feeling in my stomach means I'm not truly convinced.
-->-- '''Ed''' expressing frustration
that one has to face is the fact that [[UncannyValley everybody in the audience is going to be an expert on how humans move.]] This makes it pointless to attempt to use rotoscope or any other device to imitate human action. I believe the answer lies somewhere in working out a mode of movement that is [[LawOfConservationOfDetail edited action]], just the way that the animals in Disney/{{Bambi}} and the dwarfs in [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] were. An audience will accept any convention, any point of view, as long as it is carried out consistently. I think there is less chance of rejection by this approach than by that of stupidly trying to draw animation with all the complexity of live action. In the first place, [[ForegoneConclusion it he can't be done]], get over those... [[NightmareFuel things]] attached to Envy's [[OneWingedAngel true form]], ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''

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[[folder:Fan Fiction]]

->This being was still human-shaped, still had the pale skin, brown eyes,
and in the first place, why try to recreate the approach dead-white hair of the Hudson River School of painting? It fizzled out boy standing next to her [...] but he looked almost... stretched. Too tall and not wide enough, like a soggy firecracker. After the viewers marveled at a match head that badly enlarged photo. His fingers were too long and too much like claws. His skin didn't seem to be quite opaque. If she looked as if it hard, Tea could be picked off see the canvas or a torn envelope that uncannily simulated real life, [[AwesomeButImpractical they got bored with it.]]"''

->''Imitation of real life is not art, and art is what we are involved with, despite mutters to
guttering shadows through the contrary from Madison Avenue and the networks."''
outline of his form.
-->-- Animator ShamusCulhane discouraging the use of the {{Rotoscoping}} process, quoted from his book ''Animation: From Script to Screen''.

->''I think that the
''Fanfic/DesertedDistractions''

->Shapeshifters were by no means rare, but he’d never seen one quite so…inept. Warlock’s lines were too smooth, skin too stiff, and joints too limber. His face appeared human enough but lacked any distinguishing features,
closer animation gets to superficial "realism" the faker it looks. Do these look remotely "believable"? Not as believable as if they just shot the actual actors. This has been demonstrated over and over again in our history - going back to Snow White. Everybody (even then) loved the cartoony Dwarfs and noted the complete incongruity and stiffness of Snow White and the Prince. Well animated cartoon characters are far more "believable" a computer-generated compilation than "realistic" mannequins.''
anything naturally occurring.
-->-- Creator/JohnKricfalusi [[Blog/JohnKStuff blog post]] on ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf 2007}}'', in [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/04/daffy-in-book-revue-cartoony-believable.html "Daffy In Book Revue-Cartoony Believable Action"]]

->''This new one's kinda creepy\\
Makes me shudder inside\\
With his idiot grin.\\
He's head-to-toe
''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/861099?view_full_work=true Friendshipgifts]]'', an ''Franchise/XMen'' fic

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[[folder:Film - Live-Action]]

->I met [Michael Myers] fifteen years ago. I was told there was nothing left. No reason, no, uh, conscience, no understanding and even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this six year old child
with muscles this blank, pale, emotionless face, and they ripple the blackest eyes, the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach him and slide\\
Under translucent skin.''
then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized that what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply... evil.
-->-- '''Music/JonathanCoulton''', "Todd '''Dr. Loomis''', ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}''

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[[folder:Literature]]

->God, in pity, made man beautiful and alluring, after his own image, but my form is a filthy type of yours, more horrid even from
the T-1000"

->''Oh my god... OH MY GOD, it's the invasion of the army of '''PLASTIC WHORES!'''''
very resemblance.
-->-- '''Ebeeto, in his [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angry Video Game Fag persona]]''', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxysFE2_kDs on the]] ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'' [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames video game]]

->''"An
''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}''

->Everyone who saw her at the police court said she was at once the most beautiful woman and the most repulsive they had ever set eyes on. I have spoken to a man who saw her, and I assure you he positively shuddered as he tried to describe the woman, but he couldn't tell why.
-->-- ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan''

->An
[[SpaceElves Eldar]] looked [[HumanoidAliens almost human]] from a distance: two arms, two legs, two eyes, a nose, but everything else was different. An Eldar radiated wrongness, from its huge, liquid eyes to the many jointed, worm-like waving of its fingers. They were disgusting and unnerving, and Alaric hated them."''



-> ''It was impossible to point to any particular motion that was definitely non-human. Ransom had the sense of watching an imitation of living motions which had been very well studied and was technically correct: but somehow it lacked the master touch. And he was chilled with an inarticulate, night-nursery horror of the thing he had to deal with - the managed corpse, the bogey, the Un-man.''

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-> ''It ->My misfortune is that I resemble a man too much. I should like to be wholly a beast like that goat
-->-- '''Quasimodo''', ''Literature/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame''

->There certainly is a strange kind of streak in the Innsmouth folks today—I don’t know how to explain it, but it sort of makes you crawl. You’ll notice a little in Sargent if you take his bus. Some of ’em have queer narrow heads with flat noses and bulgy, stary eyes that never seem to shut, and their skin ain’t quite right. Rough and scabby, and the sides of their necks are all shrivelled or creased up. Get bald, too, very young. The older fellows look the worst—fact is, I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a very old chap of that kind. Guess they must die of looking in the glass!
-->-- A Ticket Agent, ''Literature/TheShadowOverInnsmouth''

->It
was impossible to point to any particular motion that was definitely non-human. Ransom had the sense of watching an imitation of living motions which had been very well studied and was technically correct: but somehow it lacked the master touch. And he was chilled with an inarticulate, night-nursery horror of the thing he had to deal with - the managed corpse, the bogey, the Un-man.''



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[[folder:Live-Action TV]]



->''"I think [[ComicBook/ChickTracts Jack]] is trying to ramp up the “adorable”, but he instead drives full-force into the grotesque."''
-->-- '''[[http://www.enterthejabberwock.com/?p=548 Chick Dissection: The Devil's Night]]'''

->"''Oh dear God, have we entered the school of the damned here? Why are they all speaking in unison and what's with their eyes?!''"
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''' on the Tandy Computer Whiz Kids

->"''God, in pity, made man beautiful and alluring, after his own image, but my form is a filthy type of yours, more horrid even from the very resemblance.''"
-->-- ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}''

->"''The Uncanny Valley is the name given to the idea that as we build robots that look more and more like real people, the more we approach a point where we all say "oh God oh God what is wrong with that robot where did it all go wrong OH GOD"
-->-- ''[[Webcomic/DinosaurComics T Rex]]'', http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=848

->''"Seeing myself transformed into that... lurching, waxen nightmare... Do children really respond to this?"''
-->-- '''Andrew Ryan''', ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', describing an anamatronic puppet of himself for Rapture's Theme Park[=/=]museum.

->"''Get a hold of yourself. That wasn't a body, nor was it a mind or anything. It was just energy. I know that. But this sinking feeling in my stomach means I'm not truly convinced.''"
-->-- '''Ed''' of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', expressing frustration that he can't get over those... [[NightmareFuel things]] attached to Envy's [[OneWingedAngel true form]].

->"'''''GEE, BEASTIES! LOOK AT HIS ARM!!!''''' ''Look, if you can't make muscles properly contract and extend, then simplify the forms! Do I really have to tell you this?!''"
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/InfamousAnimation ShogunGin0]]''' reacting to the awful human models in the 2007 CGI movie Film/TheTenCommandments.

->"''You'd think I'd be into life-size, realistic robots, but that thing makes me wanna barf up my earlier energy drink into the one I'm currently drinking.''"
-->-- '''Sci Fi Greg''', ''WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad'' Issue 15

->"''Very much funfair. There's nothing creepier than something that's supposed to look friendly and human, but doesn't manage either. Oh, dolls, they just shouldn't smile.''"
-->-- '''Creator/StevenMoffat''', about [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E2TheBeastBelow the Smilers]]

->"''Whereas formerly, before the advent of machinery, the commonest article you could pick up had a life and warmth which gave it individual interest, now everything is turned out to such a perfection of deadness that one is driven to pick up and collect, in sheer desperation, the commonest rubbish still surviving from the earlier periods.''"
-->-- '''Harold Speed''', '''The Practice & Science of Drawing''' chapter VI: The Academic and Conventional

-> "''If a commercial features children or animals doing things that children or animals are incapable of doing without the help of a computer, I'm almost certain to hate it.''"

to:

->''"I think [[ComicBook/ChickTracts Jack]] is trying to ramp up the “adorable”, but he instead drives full-force into the grotesque."''
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[[folder:Music]]

->This new one's kinda creepy\\
Makes me shudder inside\\
With his idiot grin.\\
He's head-to-toe with muscles and they ripple and slide\\
Under translucent skin.
-->-- '''[[http://www.enterthejabberwock.com/?p=548 Chick Dissection: The Devil's Night]]'''

->"''Oh dear God, have we entered
'''Music/JonathanCoulton''', "Todd the school T-1000"

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[[folder:Tabletop Games]]

->More disturbing than the unknown is a distortion
of the damned here? Why are they all speaking in unison and what's with their eyes?!''"
familiar.
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''' ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=373528 "Fleshmad Steed"]]

->A Kindred with low Humanity can put great effort into acting like a living person. He can force himself to breathe and remind himself to blink now and then... but he can't fake that subtle, unconscious dance of nonverbal interaction. Mortals soon pick up
on this. They cannot consciously spot the Tandy Computer Whiz Kids

->"''God, in pity, made man beautiful and alluring, after his own image,
problem, but my form their instincts tell them that something is a filthy type of yours, more horrid even from the very resemblance.''"
''wrong'' and they should ''get away''.
-->-- ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}''

->"''The Uncanny Valley
''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem''

->[[ReforgedIntoAMinion The result]]
is the name given to the idea rather disturbing, but in a way that as we build robots most people find difficult to place. [[HumanoidAbomination The subject]] doesn't seem to be obviously changed, but close examination reveals that look he's become a little more and idealized, a little more like real people, - well, symmetrical. Old scars vanish; even heavy scarring tends to fade just a little. The body effectively [[TheAgeless stops aging]], without so much as a fingernail or hair growing even a millimeter. (Conversely, a haircut or manicure isn't long-last, as the more we approach body quickly reverts to its "true" form.) [[CreepyCleanliness They're usually quite clean; dirt and lint just don't seem to cling to a point where we all say "oh God oh God Drone the way they do to other folks]]. In all, the differences tend to be obvious only when you know what is wrong with that robot where did it all go wrong OH GOD"
you're looking for.
-->-- ''[[Webcomic/DinosaurComics T Rex]]'', http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=848

->''"Seeing
''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse - Book Of The Weaver''

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[[folder:Video Games]]

->Seeing
myself transformed into that... lurching, waxen nightmare... Do children really respond to this?"''
this?
-->-- '''Andrew Ryan''', ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', describing an anamatronic puppet of himself for Rapture's Theme Park[=/=]museum.

->"''Get
Park[=/=]museum, ''VideoGame/BioShock2''

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Webcomics]]

->The Uncanny Valley is the name given to the idea that as we build robots that look more and more like real people, the more we approach
a hold of yourself. That wasn't a body, nor was point where we all say "oh God oh God what is wrong with that robot where did it a mind or anything. It was just energy. I know that. But this sinking feeling in my stomach means I'm not truly convinced.''"
all go wrong OH GOD"
-->-- '''Ed''' of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', expressing frustration that he can't get over those... [[NightmareFuel things]] attached to Envy's [[OneWingedAngel true form]].

->"'''''GEE, BEASTIES! LOOK AT HIS ARM!!!''''' ''Look, if
'''T-Rex''', ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'' [[http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=848 #848]]

->[=LifeSkin=] (tm) artificial dermal coating looks just like the real thing, but not, like, in a ''creepy'' way,
you can't make muscles properly contract and extend, then simplify the forms! Do I really have to tell you this?!''"
know?
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/InfamousAnimation ShogunGin0]]''' reacting to the awful human models in the 2007 CGI movie Film/TheTenCommandments.

->"''You'd think I'd be into life-size, realistic robots, but that thing makes me wanna barf up my earlier energy drink into the one I'm currently drinking.''"
-->-- '''Sci Fi Greg''', ''WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad'' Issue 15

->"''Very much funfair. There's
''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'', describing how [[RobotGirl Momo]] works

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[[folder:Web Original]]

->While
nothing creepier than in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something that's supposed the brain's not really equipped to look friendly and human, but doesn't manage either. Oh, dolls, they just shouldn't smile.''"
deal with.
-->-- '''Creator/StevenMoffat''', about [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E2TheBeastBelow '''[[http://antagonie.blogspot.com/2011/12/boy-and-his-dog.html Antagony and Ecstasy]]''' on ''[[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTintin Tintin]]''

->Oh dear God, have we entered
the Smilers]]

->"''Whereas formerly, before
school of the advent of machinery, the commonest article you could pick up had a life damned here? Why are they all speaking in unison and warmth which gave it individual interest, now everything is turned out to such a perfection of deadness that one is driven to pick up and collect, in sheer desperation, the commonest rubbish still surviving from the earlier periods.''"
what's with their eyes?!
-->-- '''Harold Speed''', '''The Practice & Science of Drawing''' chapter VI: The Academic and Conventional

-> "''If
'''Linkara''' on the Tandy Computer Whiz Kids, ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall''

->If
a commercial features children or animals doing things that children or animals are incapable of doing without the help of a computer, I'm almost certain to hate it.''"



-> "The more realistic CGI tries to make its characters, the more creepy and unreal they look. The human eye is nature’s finest bullshit detector."
-->-- '''Steve Heisler''''s [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/s1m0ne,34941/ I Watched This On Purpose column]] on ''Film/{{S1m0ne}}''

->''"Oh my God, '''WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?!!'''"''
-->-- '''Mr. Plinkett''' of WebVideo/RedLetterMedia, on a character in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''

->''"To see the snowman is to dislike the snowman. It doesn't look like a snowman, anyway. It looks like a cheap snowman suit. When it moves, it doesn't glide -- it walks, but without feet, like it's creeping on its torso. It has anorexic tree limbs for arms, which spin through 360 degrees when it's throwing snowballs. It has a big, wide mouth that moves as if masticating Gummi Bears. And it's this kid's dad."''
-->-- '''Creator/RogerEbert'''[='s=] review of ''Film/JackFrost1998''

->''"To me, porcelain dolls seemed like something you only buy when you know you're going to die alone and the only revenge you have left on the world is forcing an unblinking phalanx of $400 toy children watch your corpse get hollowed out by dusty spiders... ''Collectible Doll Care'' taught me more than how long a grown man can sustain one [[BringMyBrownPants terrified pee]]. For example, did you know that giving your doll a haircut is important enough to take up 20% of a doll maintenance instructional video? I didn't. I didn't even know that doll hair ''grew''. And by the way, fuck you for that, sorcerers."''

to:

-> "The ->The more realistic CGI tries to make its characters, the more creepy and unreal they look. The human eye is nature’s finest bullshit detector."
detector.
-->-- '''Steve Heisler''''s [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/s1m0ne,34941/ I "I Watched This On Purpose column]] Purpose" column]], on ''Film/{{S1m0ne}}''

->''"Oh my God, '''WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?!!'''"''
->I think [[ComicBook/ChickTracts Jack]] is trying to ramp up the "adorable," but he instead drives full-force into the grotesque.
-->-- '''Mr. Plinkett''' of WebVideo/RedLetterMedia, on a character in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''

->''"To see the snowman is to dislike the snowman. It doesn't look like a snowman, anyway. It looks like a cheap snowman suit. When it moves, it doesn't glide -- it walks, but without feet, like it's creeping on its torso. It has anorexic tree limbs for arms, which spin through 360 degrees when it's throwing snowballs. It has a big, wide mouth that moves as if masticating Gummi Bears. And it's this kid's dad."''
-->-- '''Creator/RogerEbert'''[='s=] review of ''Film/JackFrost1998''

->''"To
''[[http://www.enterthejabberwock.com/?p=548 Chick Dissection: The Devil's Night]]''

->To
me, porcelain dolls seemed like something you only buy when you know you're going to die alone and the only revenge you have left on the world is forcing an unblinking phalanx of $400 toy children watch your corpse get hollowed out by dusty spiders... ''Collectible Doll Care'' taught me more than how long a grown man can sustain one [[BringMyBrownPants terrified pee]]. For example, did you know that giving your doll a haircut is important enough to take up 20% of a doll maintenance instructional video? I didn't. I didn't even know that doll hair ''grew''. And by the way, fuck you for that, sorcerers."''



->''"Mac is one of the ugliest, most off-putting characters I have ever seen in a kid's movie. The armored rape goblin from the ''{{Film/Alien}}'' series is less terrifying than Mac and his sallow rubber plague mask. It isn't hard to make a movie about space that delights little children -- the only way to screw that up would be to film their parents putting on spacesuits and telling them they're getting a divorce. Or, apparently, making ''Film/MacAndMe.''"''
-->-- '''''{{Website/Cracked}}''''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-bad-movies-that-were-hilariously-sure-sequel_p2/ "4 Bad Movies That Were Hilariously Sure of a Sequel"]]

->''"In drawing, you can get away with leaving certain things out, like upper-lips per say; they would look like wrinkles if you put them in a drawing. But in real life, it looks ''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] scary''. The reason Cindy Lou was the only cute character in'' [[Film/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas The Grinch]] ''was because she was the only one allowed to have an upper-lip. Everyone else looks like a demon-possessed Hungry Hungry Hippo! And these two look like ''Literature/TheShining'' girls if Bozo the Clown gave them lager bombs!''
-->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic''', on the live-action Creator/DrSeuss movies during his ''Film/TheCatInTheHat'' review

->''More disturbing than the unknown is a distortion of the familiar''
-->-- '''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering''', flavor text for [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=373528 Fleshmad Steed]]

->"''The entire film was created inside a computer. How does it look? Cool. Buildings, sets pieces, vehicles, and aliens all look amazingly cool. People look really cool when they stand still and face away from us.''"

to:

->''"Mac ->Mac is one of the ugliest, most off-putting characters I have ever seen in a kid's movie. The armored rape goblin from the ''{{Film/Alien}}'' series is less terrifying than Mac and his sallow rubber plague mask. It isn't hard to make a movie about space that delights little children -- the only way to screw that up would be to film their parents putting on spacesuits and telling them they're getting a divorce. Or, apparently, making ''Film/MacAndMe.''"''
''
-->-- '''''{{Website/Cracked}}''''', ''{{Website/Cracked}}'', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-bad-movies-that-were-hilariously-sure-sequel_p2/ "4 Bad Movies That Were Hilariously Sure of a Sequel"]]

->''"In ->Oh my god... OH MY GOD, it's the invasion of the army of ''PLASTIC WHORES!''
-->-- '''Ebeeto''', in his '''[[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angry Video Game Fag persona]]''', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxysFE2_kDs on the]] ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'' [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames video game]]

->GEE, BEASTIES! LOOK AT HIS ARM!!! Look, if you can't make muscles properly contract and extend, then simplify the forms! Do I really have to tell you this?!
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/InfamousAnimation ShogunGin0]]''' reacting to the awful human models in the 2007 CGI movie Film/TheTenCommandments

->Whether it's in loading screens or pause screens, some games just love to make us stare at some gormless fuckwit's face twitching and gurning for ''ages'', and I hate it. I hate it because they're trying to show how great-looking and natural these faces are, but they overanimate the shit out of them trying to replicate a "lifelike appearance" [[EpicFail and end up going in the opposite direction]], giving us rubber-mouthed aliens that contort and twist with facial tics that just make my feeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrking skin crawl. (''groans'')
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}} Jim Sterling]]''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihDzpNExZOI "Eldritch Faces"]]

->In
drawing, you can get away with leaving certain things out, like upper-lips per say; they would look like wrinkles if you put them in a drawing. But in real life, it looks ''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] scary''. The reason Cindy Lou was the only cute character in'' [[Film/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas The Grinch]] ''was because she was the only one allowed to have an upper-lip. Everyone else looks like a demon-possessed Hungry Hungry Hippo! And these two look like ''Literature/TheShining'' girls if Bozo the Clown gave them lager bombs!''
bombs!
-->-- '''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic''', on ''Film/TheCatInTheHat''

->5: Make sure your characters look as dead-eyed and zombie-like as possible. Make sure their skin has that special plastic texture to it, so
the live-action Creator/DrSeuss movies during his ''Film/TheCatInTheHat'' review

->''More disturbing than
audience feels like they're staring at undead Barbie dolls.\\
6: Congratulations, you now have your walking abominations. Now ensure they mug to
the unknown camera in order to terrify your audience. If your audience is a distortion of not [[BringMyBrownPants crapping their pants]], then continue to practise.\\
[7 doesn't fall under
the familiar''
trope; it falls under {{Squick}}]\\
8: All movement should be unnatural, [[NightmareFuel highly disturbing]], and make your audience envision the dancing demons of hell.
-->-- '''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering''', flavor text for [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=373528 Fleshmad Steed]]

->"''The
'''[=PhantomStrider8=]''', discussing ''WesternAnimation/{{Foodfight}}'' in the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0vXvrdSc4 "Top 10 Worst Animated Movies"]]

->Oh my God, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?!!
-->-- '''Mr. Plinkett''' of WebVideo/RedLetterMedia, on a character in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''

->The
entire film was created inside a computer. How does it look? Cool. Buildings, sets pieces, vehicles, and aliens all look amazingly cool. People look really cool when they stand still and face away from us.''"



->"''...while nothing in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something the brain's not really equipped to deal with.''"
-->-- '''[[http://antagonie.blogspot.com/2011/12/boy-and-his-dog.html Antagony and Ecstasy]]''' on ''[[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTintin Tintin]]''

->Shapeshifters were by no means rare, but he’d never seen one quite so…inept. Warlock’s lines were too smooth, skin too stiff, and joints too limber. His face appeared human enough but lacked any distinguishing features, closer to a computer-generated compilation than anything naturally occurring.
-->-- ''Franchise/XMen'' fic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/861099?view_full_work=true Friendshipgifts]]''

->"''Everyone who saw her at the police court said she was at once the most beautiful woman and the most repulsive they had ever set eyes on. I have spoken to a man who saw her, and I assure you he positively shuddered as he tried to describe the woman, but he couldn't tell why.''"
-->-- ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan'' by Creator/ArthurMachen

to:

->"''...while nothing in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as ->You'd think I'd be into life-size, realistic robots, but that thing makes me wanna barf up my earlier energy drink into the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something the brain's not really equipped to deal with.''"
I'm currently drinking.
-->-- '''[[http://antagonie.blogspot.com/2011/12/boy-and-his-dog.html Antagony and Ecstasy]]''' on ''[[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTintin Tintin]]''

->Shapeshifters were by no means rare, but he’d never seen one quite so…inept. Warlock’s lines were too smooth, skin too stiff, and joints too limber. His face appeared human enough but lacked any distinguishing features, closer to a computer-generated compilation than anything naturally occurring.
-->-- ''Franchise/XMen'' fic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/861099?view_full_work=true Friendshipgifts]]''

->"''Everyone who saw her at the police court said she was at once the most beautiful woman and the most repulsive they had ever set eyes on. I have spoken to a man who saw her, and I assure you he positively shuddered as he tried to describe the woman, but he couldn't tell why.''"
-->-- ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan'' by Creator/ArthurMachen
'''Sci Fi Greg''', ''WebAnimation/TeenGirlSquad'' Issue 15



->" ''[=LifeSkin=] (tm) artificial dermal coating looks just like the real thing, but not, like, in a '''creepy''' way, you know?''
-->-- ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'', describing how [[RobotGirl Momo]] works

->''Whether it's in loading screens or pause screens, some games just love to make us stare at some gormless fuckwit's face twitching and gurning for ''ages'', and I hate it. I hate it because they're trying to show how great-looking and natural these faces are, but they overanimate the shit out of them trying to replicate a "lifelike appearance" [[EpicFail and end up going in the opposite direction]], giving us rubber-mouthed aliens that contort and twist with facial tics that just make my feeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrking skin crawl. (groans)''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}} Jim Sterling]]''', ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihDzpNExZOI Eldritch Faces]]''

->[[ReforgedIntoAMinion The result]] is rather disturbing, but in a way that most people find difficult to place. [[HumanoidAbomination The subject]] doesn't seem to be obviously changed, but close examination reveals that he's become a little more idealized, a little more - well, symmetrical. Old scars vanish; even heavy scarring tends to fade just a little. The body effectively [[TheAgeless stops aging]], without so much as a fingernail or hair growing even a millimeter. (Conversely, a haircut or manicure isn't long-last, as the body quickly reverts to its "true" form.) [[CreepyCleanliness They're usually quite clean; dirt and lint just don't seem to cling to a Drone the way they do to other folks]]. In all, the differences tend to be obvious only when you know what you're looking for.
-->-- ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse - Book Of The Weaver''

->''5: Make sure your characters look as dead-eyed and zombie-like as possible. Make sure their skin has that special plastic texture to it, so the audience feels like they're staring at undead Barbie dolls.''\\
''6: Congratulations, you now have your walking abominations. Now ensure they mug to the camera in order to terrify your audience. If your audience is not [[BringMyBrownPants crapping their pants]], then continue to practise.''\\
(7 doesn't fall under the trope; it falls under {{Squick}})\\
''8: All movement should be unnatural, [[NightmareFuel highly disturbing]], and make your audience envision the dancing demons of hell.''
-->-- '''[=PhantomStrider8=]''', ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0vXvrdSc4 Top 10 Worst Animated Movies]]'' - specifically discussing ''WesternAnimation/{{Foodfight}}''.

->''There certainly is a strange kind of streak in the Innsmouth folks today—I don’t know how to explain it, but it sort of makes you crawl. You’ll notice a little in Sargent if you take his bus. Some of ’em have queer narrow heads with flat noses and bulgy, stary eyes that never seem to shut, and their skin ain’t quite right. Rough and scabby, and the sides of their necks are all shrivelled or creased up. Get bald, too, very young. The older fellows look the worst—fact is, I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a very old chap of that kind. Guess they must die of looking in the glass!''
-->-- '''A Ticket Agent''', ''Literature/TheShadowOverInnsmouth''

to:

->" ''[=LifeSkin=] (tm) artificial dermal coating looks [[/folder]]

[[folder:Real Life]]

->The big problem that one has to face is the fact that [[UncannyValley everybody in the audience is going to be an expert on how humans move.]] This makes it pointless to attempt to use rotoscope or any other device to imitate human action. I believe the answer lies somewhere in working out a mode of movement that is [[LawOfConservationOfDetail edited action]],
just like the real thing, but not, like, way that the animals in a '''creepy''' way, you know?''
-->-- ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'', describing how [[RobotGirl Momo]] works

->''Whether it's in loading screens or pause screens, some games just love to make us stare at some gormless fuckwit's face twitching
Disney/{{Bambi}} and gurning for ''ages'', and I hate it. I hate the dwarfs in [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] were. An audience will accept any convention, any point of view, as long as it because they're is carried out consistently. I think there is less chance of rejection by this approach than by that of stupidly trying to show how great-looking draw animation with all the complexity of live action. In the first place, [[ForegoneConclusion it can't be done]], and natural these faces are, but they overanimate the shit out of them trying to replicate a "lifelike appearance" [[EpicFail and end up going in the opposite direction]], giving us rubber-mouthed aliens first place, why try to recreate the approach of the Hudson River School of painting? It fizzled out like a soggy firecracker. After the viewers marveled at a match head that contort and twist looked as if it could be picked off the canvas or a torn envelope that uncannily simulated real life, [[AwesomeButImpractical they got bored with facial tics that just make my feeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrking skin crawl. (groans)''
it.]]\\\
Imitation of real life is not art, and art is what we are involved with, despite mutters to the contrary from Madison Avenue and the networks.
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}} Jim Sterling]]''', ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihDzpNExZOI Eldritch Faces]]''

->[[ReforgedIntoAMinion The result]]
Animator '''Creator/ShamusCulhane''' discouraging the use of the {{Rotoscoping}} process, quoted from his book ''Animation: From Script to Screen''

->To see the snowman
is rather disturbing, but in a way that most people find difficult to place. [[HumanoidAbomination The subject]] dislike the snowman. It doesn't seem to be obviously changed, but close examination reveals that he's become a little more idealized, a little more - well, symmetrical. Old scars vanish; even heavy scarring tends to fade just a little. The body effectively [[TheAgeless stops aging]], without so much as a fingernail or hair growing even a millimeter. (Conversely, a haircut or manicure isn't long-last, as the body quickly reverts to its "true" form.) [[CreepyCleanliness They're usually quite clean; dirt and lint just don't seem to cling to a Drone the way they do to other folks]]. In all, the differences tend to be obvious only when you know what you're looking for.
-->-- ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse - Book Of The Weaver''

->''5: Make sure your characters
look as dead-eyed and zombie-like as possible. Make sure their skin has that special plastic texture to it, so the audience feels like they're staring at undead Barbie dolls.''\\
''6: Congratulations, you now have your walking abominations. Now ensure they mug to the camera in order to terrify your audience. If your audience is not [[BringMyBrownPants crapping their pants]], then continue to practise.''\\
(7
a snowman, anyway. It looks like a cheap snowman suit. When it moves, it doesn't fall under the trope; glide -- it falls under {{Squick}})\\
''8: All movement should be unnatural, [[NightmareFuel highly disturbing]], and make your audience envision the dancing demons of hell.''
walks, but without feet, like it's creeping on its torso. It has anorexic tree limbs for arms, which spin through 360 degrees when it's throwing snowballs. It has a big, wide mouth that moves as if masticating Gummi Bears. And it's this kid's dad."
-->-- '''[=PhantomStrider8=]''', ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0vXvrdSc4 Top 10 Worst Animated Movies]]'' - specifically discussing ''WesternAnimation/{{Foodfight}}''.

->''There certainly is a strange kind
'''Creator/RogerEbert'''[='s=] review of streak in the Innsmouth folks today—I don’t know how to explain it, but it sort of makes you crawl. You’ll notice a little in Sargent if you take his bus. Some of ’em have queer narrow heads with flat noses and bulgy, stary eyes ''Film/JackFrost1998''

->I think
that never seem the closer animation gets to shut, superficial "realism" the faker it looks. Do these look remotely "believable?" Not as believable as if they just shot the actual actors. This has been demonstrated over and their skin ain’t quite right. Rough over again in our history - going back to Snow White. Everybody (even then) loved the cartoony Dwarfs and scabby, noted the complete incongruity and stiffness of Snow White and the sides of their necks Prince. Well animated cartoon characters are all shrivelled or creased up. Get bald, too, very young. The older fellows look the worst—fact is, I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a very old chap of that kind. Guess they must die of looking in the glass!''
far more "believable" than "realistic" mannequins.
-->-- '''A Ticket Agent''', ''Literature/TheShadowOverInnsmouth''
'''Creator/JohnKricfalusi''', [[Blog/JohnKStuff blog post]] on ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf 2007}}'', in [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/04/daffy-in-book-revue-cartoony-believable.html "Daffy In Book Revue-Cartoony Believable Action"]]

->These were robots in human form with distorted faces, and they gave my daughter nightmares. When I asked her why she was frightened of the Cybermen but not of the Daleks, she replied that the Cybermen looked like terrible human beings, whereas the Daleks were just Daleks.
-->-- '''Ann Lawrence''', writer for ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Morning Star]]'' on ''Series/DoctorWho: [[Recap/DoctorWhoS5E1TheTombOfTheCybermen The Tomb of the Cybermen]]''

->Very much funfair. There's nothing creepier than something that's supposed to look friendly and human, but doesn't manage either. Oh, dolls, they just shouldn't smile.
-->-- '''Creator/StevenMoffat''', about [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E2TheBeastBelow the Smilers]]

->Whereas formerly, before the advent of machinery, the commonest article you could pick up had a life and warmth which gave it individual interest, now everything is turned out to such a perfection of deadness that one is driven to pick up and collect, in sheer desperation, the commonest rubbish still surviving from the earlier periods.
-->-- '''Harold Speed''', ''The Practice & Science of Drawing'' chapter VI: The Academic and Conventional

[[/folder]]
26th Oct '16 6:05:01 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''JonathanCoulton''', "Todd the T-1000"

to:

-->-- '''JonathanCoulton''', '''Music/JonathanCoulton''', "Todd the T-1000"



-->-- '''Ebeeto, in his [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angry Video Game Fag persona]]''', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxysFE2_kDs on the]] ''DealOrNoDeal'' [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames video game]]

to:

-->-- '''Ebeeto, in his [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angry Video Game Fag persona]]''', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxysFE2_kDs on the]] ''DealOrNoDeal'' ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'' [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames video game]]
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-->-- Creator/JohnKricfalusi [[Blog/JohnKStuff blog post]] on ''Film/{{Beowulf 2007}}'', in [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/04/daffy-in-book-revue-cartoony-believable.html "Daffy In Book Revue-Cartoony Believable Action"]]

to:

-->-- Creator/JohnKricfalusi [[Blog/JohnKStuff blog post]] on ''Film/{{Beowulf ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf 2007}}'', in [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/04/daffy-in-book-revue-cartoony-believable.html "Daffy In Book Revue-Cartoony Believable Action"]]



->"''...while nothing in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''Film/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something the brain's not really equipped to deal with.''"

to:

->"''...while nothing in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''Film/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something the brain's not really equipped to deal with.''"
14th Oct '16 8:47:51 AM nighttrainfm
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'''Frank:''' But down here we have a CGI Stormtrooper or Creator/TomHanks in ThePolarExpress.\\

to:

'''Frank:''' But down here we have a CGI Stormtrooper or Creator/TomHanks in ThePolarExpress.WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress.\\



->"''...while nothing in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''Film/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something the brain's not really equipped to deal with.''"

to:

->"''...while nothing in ''Tintin'' is quite as richly nightmarish as the waxen-faced corpse of Tom Hanks sauntering through ''ThePolarExpress'' ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' or the kinky video game avatar of Angelina Jolie in ''Film/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', it's still a bit eye-watering in places. Particularly in the beginning, before one has a chance to really get used to the sight of almost photorealistic people with comic book facial features, which we've never really had in the movies before, and Jesus Christ is it ever something the brain's not really equipped to deal with.''"
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